WARNING:The Sticky Icky Icky Icky= Crazy

[Big-J]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/27/marijuana.psychosis.ap/index.html
Look how evil this stuff is, stay away at all cost!!!! It will make you go crazy!!!:siesta:

[600F3]

:siesta: That sure is a pretty plant :siesta:

[luniz7]

i dont believe it

[derekm]

bwahahahahaha!

[puckstr]

That is total BULLSHIT.
Stay away from the stems and Seeds

MMMMMmmmmm I have NEVER seen a PotHead fight on COPS, But get a get a Drunk Redneck with no shirt and it is ON!

Hell most stoners are passive not Psycotic. Fucking idiots.

It is all in what a RELIGION deems acceptable.
Here not POT but Booze is OK
Middle East Hash is OK but Booze is Not.
Again Religion dictates policy.....

The whole WORLD should Hit the Bong and Just MELLOW OUT!

[#1Townie]

That is total BULLSHIT.
Stay away from the stems and Seeds

MMMMMmmmmm I have NEVER seen a PotHead fight on COPS, But get a get a Drunk Redneck with no shirt and it is ON!

Hell most stoners are passive not Psycotic. Fucking idiots.

It is all in what a RELIGION deems acceptable.
Here not POT but Booze is OK
Middle East Hash is OK but Booze is Not.
Again Religion dictates policy.....

The whole WORLD should Hit the Bong and Just MELLOW OUT!

ummmmmmm dude sure when they are high they are fine... go a few days without and they are mean as hell tryn to get stoned... i never liked the shit but i would watch my friends get real angry if they couldnt get stoned... o yeah had a few friends beat another one of our friends to death over a half o... so yeah for sure pots the way to go...

[MAZIN]

Ok first off what religion are you talking about?
“it is all in what a RELIGION deems acceptable.
Here not POT but Booze is OK (what religion here condones drinking?)
Middle East Hash is OK but Booze is Not. (Are you saying that we should model ourselves after them?)
Again Religion dictates policy”...


Second… “Hell most stoners are passive not Psycotic. Fucking idiots.” Guess the keyword is most out of that sentence huh.


Third… "The whole WORLD should Hit the Bong and Just MELLOW OUT!”

So what if the whole world did just “hit the bong” what would happen then? You think that all war, violence, theft would just disappear? How about if the whole world was stoned, what would get done? I can’t say for all but in my own experience all I wanted to do was “mellow out”. There are a select few that can be productive while stoned but what percentage would that be? Again in my own experience I would have to say out of all the people I know that used less than 5% was productive enough just to skate by in life. So you take that 5% and stick them in a situation where they would have to be as productive as a sober person and who do you think would accomplish the most in the shortest amount of time? Granted that would be a hell of a contest and purely speculation but what do you think would happen?


To bring up my forth point “I have NEVER seen a Pot Head fight on COPS, But get a get a Drunk Redneck with no shirt and it is ON!” What do you figure happens when a shootout erupts when a smuggler is caught bringing the pot into the country? Oh their not using the pot they bring in right. If you believe that you must be stoned. If pot was the anti-violence drug why is it not being used to cure criminals with violent tendencies? Better yet if you think that all potheads or stoners are not capable of violence tell me where I can find this utopian society. Also where does it say rednecks don’t smoke it ether?


Now I do believe that there is a benefit to the use of marijuana but it would not be in the general public. I believe that a person that is terminally ill (cancer) should be allowed to smoke. It would ease pain and also give them their appetite back. But as far as the average Joe wanting to get high I say learn to deal with stress, or find another way of having fun. Why do people need to lose realty in the name of fun anyway? I don’t condone drinking ether.


Pot is the complacency drug, its effects are the feeling that everything is fine no matter what is going on in the person’s environment. What’s so bad about that? Well for starters if everything was fine then where would be the desire for self or world betterment? Where would be the desire to do anything but smoke the stuff period? I used the same lame tired out excuses to condone what I did also, I would say “it helps me slow down”, “it's not that bad”, “I need it to focus”, and so on, but the only thing that it does is allow a person to waste time and feel like its ok to do so. Also some chronic like in the picture cost more than most entertainment. Let’s analyze that, the price for a quarter of an ounce of KB or chronic is about $100.00 so what could we do with that money instead of smoking it? A movie with a hot girl $30-$50 (stinky finger is free btw) , A video game that just came out $50-60, Dinner with family most of the time free, how about a trip to the museum $50.00 (oh wait does anyone still consider learning fun?), a tank of gas in a R1 $15.00. There are a lot better things that money could be spent on.


If you don’t think that I have experience with the drug I would now like to say I was addicted to it for over 13 years and all I can say is it was a waste of time and money and lung capacity. I missed out on making myself into something that I could respect for a long time because all I wanted to do was “hit the bong” and “mellow out”.


When does it stop being Mellow, and start becoming lazy and a drug abuser? Oh you’re not addicted, yep I said that too, but wait till you’re out and smoking resin. In conclusion I would just like to ask one more question. What productive meaningful thing have you ever done that pot has helped you do?

[MAZIN]

BTW I do not hold it against any person if they choose to use or not. this is merley my opinion and experince on the topic.

[puckstr]

BTW I do not hold it against any person if they choose to use or not. this is merley my opinion and experince on the topic.

I am not wanting to model our society after the Middle East..Hell No I have been there and it sucks ass.

What Religion condones Drinking??? Catholics do and Baptist just dont admit it. I should know I was raised Southern Baptist.

EVERY Religion has its own crazy ideas of what its followers can and can't do. What you can and can't Eat, Drink, and Screw.

It is totally ok to have our own opinions and voice them. We are Americans. I personally do not find a problem with Pot it is organic and andf not made with Household chemicals.

I have never had the experience of being around a Stoner getting crazy when they cant get high. I guess my friends are just ocassional heads.

You want to see someone get crazy you should have seen me when I quit SMOKING. :scream1:

[MAZIN]

ok I agree that there are some misconseptions when it comes to religion an ddrinking but thats a different thread... I have issues with religions that take the bible out of context like the one's puckster mentioned but thats why i dont clam a denomination. In all of the synoptic gospels as well as the old testimate make it very clear about drinking. We as humans tend to warp what we want to make it easyier for us to do what we want no matter what. To each his own...and talk to me in a few days (I quit cigs today) I'll probably be havin a nicotine fit. As far as stoners goin crazy that might be a harsh statment based on someone elses experinces but I myself was jus a lil bit of an asshole when I dient have it (come to find out, thats just me! ;) )

[Kanabiis]

Mazin, You are talking about the symptoms of the drug being illegal, not the drug itself. If Alcohol was illegal, do you think there would be shootouts at the boarder by smugglers??

Oh wait, we tried that already, it was called prohibition, and if I remember my history books correctly, it was one of the most violent times in American history. Maybe you recall hearing about Al Capone, one of many gangsters during the 20's who capitalized on alcohol smuggling during prohibition. Infact things were so violent that the US Government had to repeal the ban on alcohol because so many people were dying in the streets.

Every point you have brought up are symptoms of the fact that weed is illegal, not symptoms of weed itself.

The poster child for marijuana decriminalization is the Netherlands... If weed makes people crazy and violent, how come violent crime is so low in the Netherlands where you can buy pot at the local coffee house? If all those problems you addressed are true, why is that not a problem in Amsterdam?

[puckstr]

ok I agree that there are some misconseptions when it comes to religion an ddrinking but thats a different thread... I have issues with religions that take the bible out of context like the one's puckster mentioned but thats why i dont clam a denomination. In all of the synoptic gospels as well as the old testimate make it very clear about drinking. We as humans tend to warp what we want to make it easyier for us to do what we want no matter what. To each his own...and talk to me in a few days (I quit cigs today) I'll probably be havin a nicotine fit. As far as stoners goin crazy that might be a harsh statment based on someone elses experinces but I myself was jus a lil bit of an asshole when I dient have it (come to find out, thats just me! ;) )


Dude We have the same amount of posts... Yep I am bored

God I love talking about God, Drugs and other dumb shit.

[Kanabiis]

And just to add fuel to the fire, here is a brilliant article debunking the 'psychotic weed smokers' study to its core....

Psychotic weed smokers is bullshit (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/reefer-inanity-never-tru_b_58353.html#thc)

My favorite part of the article was this nugget:

"By contrast, one study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=2380692&ordinalpos=35&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) found that alcohol has been found to increase the risk of psychosis by 800% for men and 300% for women. Although this study was not a meta-analysis (which looks at multiple studies, as the marijuana research did), it certainly is worth citing to help readers get a sense of the magnitude of the risk in comparison with other drugs linked to psychosis."

So, based on the SAME methods, Alcohol is 10 times worse the weed.... anti weed agenda blurring the facts... no, not in America...say its not true.

[MAZIN]

Ok my statment was written on my own personal experince. I never said that I thought drinking was better and in fact I said I dident condone drinking ether. There are differences between the 2 and I do belive that drinking is worse but that was not the subject.
As far as your stament of "Mazin, You are talking about the symptoms of the drug being illegal" Complacency was a symptom that I faced with the drug so I guess that I missed your point.

[puckstr]

"By contrast, one study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=2380692&ordinalpos=35&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) found that alcohol has been found to increase the risk of psychosis by 800% for men and 300% for women.


Wholy Shit!!! My Ex-wife (the second one) was a PSYCHO Alcoholic. She was violent and fucking nutz. I think the study was based on her.

[Nick_Ninja]

After eight years as a paramedic I never once took a victim of a domestic violence incident to the hospital when cannibus was the primary drug of choice.

[Kanabiis]

After eight years as a paramedic I never once took a victim of a domestic violence incident to the hospital when cannibus was the primary drug of choice.

Bet you dealt with a shitload of Cheetoes ODs though right? right? :):oops:

[MAZIN]

as far as everything else goes I digress, I think I'll go get a lil stinky finger ;)

[Nick_Ninja]

Bet you dealt with a shitload of Cheetoes ODs though right? right? :):oops:
:spit:

[Suki]

ummmmmmm dude sure when they are high they are fine... go a few days without and they are mean as hell tryn to get stoned... i never liked the shit but i would watch my friends get real angry if they couldnt get stoned... o yeah had a few friends beat another one of our friends to death over a half o... so yeah for sure pots the way to go...

and here it goes, i'm agreeing with you on this one. my ex was a pot head from the time he woke up to when he'd go to sleep, and even then he'd take a few bong hits and then lay down. and i always figured well as long as it's not interfering with his ability to keep a job or be productive then i have nothing to say about it. but then he lost his job, and refused to get another job, so then he didn't have money for his weed. so then he decides, he'll hook up with some guy and be a dealer, so then that way he'll always have alittle something left over for his own stash. that lasted less than a week and by the end of the week he was dipping into the stuff he was supposed to sell, then ended up smoking it all. when i wouldn't give him money to pay that guy back or to buy more, he got viscious, cornering me in the bathroom with his face red and veins popping out screaming that i was a cunt, a bitch, a whore, a stupid gook bitch for not giving him any money. I told him to go ask his mother for money and while he was at it to call her all the names he just did because she's korean also, and see how far he got with that.

needless to say, a few days later, he seemed better, but then when he ran out of weed it was the same freakin thing and i left him. i had already moved out and was back home at my dad's house but after this second time i actually broke up with him.

this is my ONLY example of someone being psychotic without their weed, so i'm not saying that everyone is like that, but obviously there runs the chance that if someone cant have their fix then their withdrawl symptons will kick in, whatever they may be. though his best friend smacked his gf around a few times when they were out of weed so who knows.

[-n8-]

What? Riiiiight, sounds like you have some f*cked up friends, not pothead friends... Have you looked at your avatar lately? I'm just pointing out the obvious...

ummmmmmm dude sure when they are high they are fine... go a few days without and they are mean as hell tryn to get stoned... i never liked the shit but i would watch my friends get real angry if they couldnt get stoned... o yeah had a few friends beat another one of our friends to death over a half o... so yeah for sure pots the way to go...

[puckstr]

Bet you dealt with a shitload of Cheetoes ODs though right? right? :):oops:
MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Cheetoes!!

[Nick_Ninja]

Keep yer Cheese-Toes

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[Kanabiis]

If most people in America knew the true story about how marijuana became illegal in the United States, they would be outraged. Unfortunately there has been a concentrated effort on the part of the media AND the government to suppress the facts and distort the truth to satisfy their agenda. You may ask, why would the media assist in this conspiracy?

The answer is easy, the media has always been involved in the fight against marijuana. William Randolph Hurst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hurst) was the Rupert Murdoch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch) of the early 1900's.
Like Murdoch he was a 'Yellow Journalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)', his papers were sold predominately to upper middle class white people, and to which he catered his news to. Thus his papers were filled with sensationalist headlines with racist overtones, marijuana was linked to the lazy mexican and white women loving black man. He would have editorials written talking about the back room Jazz houses where Black men gave white women the evil weed and then had sex with them. This same kind of yellow journalism gave birth to the film 'Reefer Madness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness)' which is filled with the same kind of mistruths and lies about marijuana.

The strangest truth about marijuana, as detailed in Jack Herer's book 'The Emperor Wears No Cloths (http://www.jackherer.com/chapter01.html)', is that the AMA, American Medical Association, was prohibited from speaking to congress when the law making Marijuana illegal was being debated. They were 100% against the criminalization of marijuana. Only after years of lobbying from the US Government that for a short period of time the AMA favored the law. Recently the AMA has again reversed their position and have begun speaking out in favor of medicinal marijuana after numerous studies that have begun to come out of marijuana friendly countries like the Netherlands.

Speaking of studies, because the Marijuana laws also prohibit the seeds and stalks from being possessed by ANY citizen, legitimate study as to medicinal and industrial uses for hemp has also been stifled for almost 100 years. Who knows what kind of discoveries could have been made about the properties of marijuana in the past 100 years.

I implore anyone of you with an open mind to read the following two links. They are very educational, and presented to you with clear facts regarding the lies the US Government has been spreading about marijuana. The are academically sound, well researched papers asking you the reader to draw your own conclusions based on the real evidence, not attempting to push some pot smokers agenda....

Short history of marijuana (http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html)

The Emperor Wears No Cloths (http://www.jackherer.com/chapter01.html), this is a longer read, but heavily detailed with cited sources AND actual transcripts of the congressional hearings around the Marijuana tax act and various other governmental hearings. This is probably the single best source for the entire story, beginning to end, and I have read quite a few books on the subject.