? for you dog people

[Suki]

Do any of you have your dogs ride in the bed of the pickup? How did you train them to do that, is there some type of a harness that keeps them in the truck?

Our trips to the dog park are getting more and more cramped and i've been thinking of training our older/bigger dog to ride in the bed of the truck. that way she's not trampling our other smaller dog or trying to stick her nose out of the tiny little side windows.

She's a really smart dog and i dont think we'll have any problems with her learning to stay in, but just wondered if there are any tricks that worked with your dogs.

[dallas]

I ran a cable between the two front tiedowns in the bed of my truck, then attach a leash that is just long enough for the dog to stick their head over the side of the truck bed, but not enough for them to jump out. The dog can still move from side to side in the truck bed, but can't jump out.

[Suki]

i thought about that, do you use a harness to attach the leash to or just a regular collar?

[salsashark]

I've got a collapsible kennel that I put in the back of my truck for the puppy. While I don't think she's stupid enough to jump out while I'm moving, when the truck stops, I don't trust her.

For example. I picked her up from the parents' house on the way home from camping. Put her in the back seat and rolled down the window. I looked back to find her hanging about half way out of the window (loving life of course).

http://www.petsmart.com/media/ps/images/products/detail/standard/June05/55601_4838b.jpg

Depending on what size you want, these types of kennels start at around 25 bucks and go up from there.

[dallas]

i thought about that, do you use a harness to attach the leash to or just a regular collar?

Just the regular collar. I have those cheesy carabiner clips on the handle part of all my dogs leashes, so I just tie a loop about halfway down the leash, put the carabiner through the loop and then clip it on the cable. The cable is actually a 6 foot dog tie out that I bought at a dollar store and it fits perfect in the bed of my full size Dodge. I used to let my dog ride up front, but she is now over 50 lbs. and thinks she is a lap dog. She likes riding in the back almost as much as riding in the front. Everytime I put the tailgate down she thinks she is going for a ride.

[AshliRider44]

I'd go the kennel route. Its pretty dangerous to use a leash or cable. :)

[Suki]

yeah our Gia did that last week, had her upper half of her body hanging out and then put her paw on the window button and sure enough, she got her head caught in the window and then lost her footing, fell down and was choking. I thought i had the window locked but it wasn't, so now i dont roll it down as far.



I've got a collapsible kennel that I put in the back of my truck for the puppy. While I don't think she's stupid enough to jump out while I'm moving, when the truck stops, I don't trust her.

For example. I picked her up from the parents' house on the way home from camping. Put her in the back seat and rolled down the window. I looked back to find her hanging about half way out of the window (loving life of course).

http://www.petsmart.com/media/ps/images/products/detail/standard/June05/55601_4838b.jpg

Depending on what size you want, these types of kennels start at around 25 bucks and go up from there.

[TurboGizzmo]

Topper ;) of course my dog could walk right out if the topper was off, but i would go the kennel route. (I even have one for my Dane if needed)



My buddy (just a month or two ago) had his dog tied down low enough so that his dog "wouldnt jump out" in his Jeep and well suddenly for no reason bam jumped out, preceded to hang herself broke the collar and was so freaked ran off......

Vets will also say the high wind in their ears and eyes isnt good for them....

[Suki]

did they say at what speed? i wont take her in the back on the highway, mainly just on Quincy Ave, Buckley and Parker Rd, which i believe the speed limit is 40 Quincy and Buckley.

[Cat118!]

yeah the kennel thing is the smart way....so many horror stories from leashes and no restraints,
Dogs have hung themselves and caused severe perm injury if not worse.
And in accidents the Kennel will protect them. So they are not running around in traffic if they were ok after a crash.

[TurboGizzmo]

did they say at what speed? i wont take her in the back on the highway, mainly just on Quincy Ave, Buckley and Parker Rd, which i believe the speed limit is 40 Quincy and Buckley.

Any speed with the dogs head out the windows / truck bed is normally a bad idea and can cause damage....

[Suki]

huh, i was told a loooong time ago that dogs had to stick their heads out while in the car because it helps their senses to let them know that they're moving and to avoid car/motion sickness.

[TurboGizzmo]

huh, i was told a loooong time ago that dogs had to stick their heads out while in the car because it helps their senses to let them know that they're moving and to avoid car/motion sickness.

Yeah its somewhat up for debate...

My grandpa comes from old skool dog in the back of the pickup, head out the window hunting dog, where if the dog got really injured or sick it would be put down, none of that high dollar dog insurance and surgery.

New School, like me, treats the dog like a kid, pays for insurance, doesnt let just anyone run up and pet my dog, somewhat protective.

Colorado windshields are pitted with tons of micro rocks which we dont really think about. Of course being bikers we know how it feels to get hit by something (if you dont wear a helmet.) Any of that "stuff" can damage the dogs eyes, ears and nose. It can cause premature cataracts and hearing lose. Also a dog out the window doesnt know when you are going to swerve or perhaps get into a possible collision.

As for car sick, my dog can stare out the window if she wants but I normally try to train her to lay down in the back seat once she calms down...

[pilot]

A secured cage in the back is only logical. Hey, we wear seat belts and we're inside of the car/truck. Also, try not to feed 3-4 hours prior to a ride to help avoid motion sickness. Ease up on the brakes, gas and turns (hey, just like riding a motorcycle--the Pace for dogs, ha!)

[dallas]

All you people with your safety/well being crap. In the country, we always had our dogs ride in the back of the pickup with no issue at all. Being in the "city", I tie my dog up so she won't jump out, but she doesn't have enough "rope to hang herself".

I suppose you guys have something against lead based paint too!!!

[Suki]

:lol: mmm lead base paint....

[TurboGizzmo]

:lol: mmm lead base paint....

All my roommates get this http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/leadpdfe.pdf and sign off on the discloser, after that its up to them if its chow time.... :)

[Jmetz]

My dog dosen't get motion sickness at all. No head out the window or any of that. He just chills on the passenger seat or the lap of the person in the passenger seat. I take him up to the mountains and on car rides that can be 6hrs or more and have never had issue.

I really hate when I see people with dogs in the bed of trucks. If there's an accident there's nothing to give them some kind of protection.

[Zanos]

If you use a leash. If your dog jumps or fals out, make sure it is short to not let him out or long enough to not hang him.

If you dont use a leash, they can jump out.

All of my dogs have been able to stay in the bed of the truck without issue, even while in a store they do not jump out. Most dogs dont like jumping that far. Some good training is always beneficial.

[Suki]

our dogs dont get sick, i was just told a long time ago that was why they stick their heads out. i dont know if it's true or not.

Gia is definately NOT a 'lap dog' and maybe with training she could just lay down in the back but i doubt she would be okay with not being able to see what's outside. she's a very curious and active dog, our other one on the other hand is lazy and could care less about what's going on outside the window. she would definitely die of a heart attack if she were put in the truck bed (hell she almost pisses herself when i shake out a trash bag), she freezes up and doesn't budge while sitting either up front or in the back seat. it's like she's just paralyzed until the car stops, she's a big pussy but damnit we love her.

Anyways, i'm sure there are a bunch of different opinions on it, but in either case i plan on exercising caution while she's in the back and dont plan on taking her out on the highway. yes, i could get into an accident backing out of my driveway or getting onto Quincy and she could die or be mamed but she could also go to the dog park and mis-calculate a jump into the water and fuck herself up that way too.


Cat, you still have your crate?

[Cat118!]

I do have the crate still
if you need to borrow it you are welcome to it
I already told my aunt she could have it but that was 3 months ago

[Suki]

well if she doesn't pick up then i'll see if i can put it to use. though i think later today when alan gets home we'll try the cable/harness/leash way just to see how she likes it in the back. that way one of us can sit back there and drive around da 'hood.

[Cat118!]

well come over tonight and get it

[Suki]

nooo, you bring it to work tomorrow and i'll go visit you :D

[puckstr]

I thought it was funny....http://www.bikernewsonline.com/uploaded_images/road-hound-pet-carrier-700236.jpg

[rforsythe]

My dog rides in the back seat.

Dog in the bed of a truck = good way to lose your dog. Dog leashed to the vehicle when they try to jump out = good way to hang your dog or run them over.

[Cat118!]

nooo, you bring it to work tomorrow and i'll go visit you :D


Bring your butt over to my house and VIST ME!!!! :cry:
A reason to get out of the house and bring me my gear

[Sortarican]

+1 kennel.
The collapsible cage types are nice, especially for storage.
But the solid platic type can actually survive being thrown from the vehicle during a wreck.
(Not guaranteed, but I've heard of several cases where they did.)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:UROrI9rxUVdwlM:http://www.weekend-sportsman.com/images/productimages/duece.jpg (http://www.weekend-sportsman.com/images/productimages/duece.jpg)

I have one I never use if you want to borrow it for a trip.
Medium/large.

Also, if you get one, don't be fooled into thinking bigger is better.
There should be just enough room for the dog to stand and turn around comfortably, but not so much that it's more of a doghouse.

[salsashark]

My dog rides in the back seat.

Dog in the bed of a truck = good way to lose your dog. Dog leashed to the vehicle when they try to jump out = good way to hang your dog or run them over.

+1 one on the back seat... For the most part this works.

The one exception is the Cherry Creel Dog Park. I don't want that muddy nastiness in my truck! I'll take the chance driving a couple of miles w/ the dog kenneled in the bed of the truck.

[Suki]

+1 one on the back seat... For the most part this works.

The one exception is the Cherry Creel Dog Park. I don't want that muddy nastiness in my truck! I'll take the chance driving a couple of miles w/ the dog kenneled in the bed of the truck.

werd, that's the one that we go to and it's about a 5-10 minute drive from my driveway to the parking lot. We have a Corolla that we mostly use so that everyone is comfortable but damn those dogs will come back from playing in that filthy water, all muddy and then jump in. we have towels to dry them off and get off as much as we can and then another to lay on the seat, but it still gets nasty.

If I can get atleast one, the older one, comfortable with riding in the bed of the truck to and from the dog park then it'll make a world of difference for when we go.

and actually, now that jeff mentioned it i think we have one of those hard plastic ones in the shed, i'll have to clean it out and see if she fits in it today! whooopeeeee!!!!!

[Sortarican]

werd, that's the one that we go to and it's about a 5-10 minute drive from my driveway to the parking lot.


For that short a distance just stuff em in the trunk.
(J/K...I'm not Micheal Vick.)

[Suki]

Bring your butt over to my house and VIST ME!!!! :cry:
A reason to get out of the house and bring me my gear

the gear that has been sitting in my garage since April/May? you've been to my house how many times since then and never grabbed it? JUST LIKE YOUR DOG GATE THING???? oh please don't start exclamating me on the importance of ME taking YOU YOUR GEAR that you've stored at my house for the last 4 months.

YOU WANT YOUR GEAR? YOU WANT YOUR FUCKING GEAR??????

you bring me that dog kennel and i'll meet you in the parking lot tomorrow, and we'll exchange pleasantries and gear. :)


:lol:

[Suki]

For that short a distance just stuff em in the trunk.
(J/K...I'm not Micheal Vick.)

lol, but then where would i put my son?

[Sortarican]

the gear that has been sitting in my garage since April/May? ...

Yeah, Cat tosses her shit everywhere after a couple drinks.
:drink:
Did you ever catch her Friday night when she took off naked running through LoDo?

[Suki]

no man, she's much to ninja stealth for me. i was too busy trying to keep myself upright :lol:

[Cat118!]

pffft whatever!!! Not my fault my clothes weigh me down when drunk!!

I want you to come over and be my company!!! SUKKKKKIIIIIII!!!

[puckstr]

pffft whatever!!! Not my fault my clothes weigh me down when drunk!!

I want you to come over and be my company!!! SUKKKKKIIIIIII!!!
Drunk and Naked
What a shame

A Shame there is no pictures!!!!

[sprtbkbabe]

Are you fucking kidding me? Please PLEASE do not let your dog run around in the back of your truck people! Use a crate if you have to have him/her back there (I've got an extra one if you need Suki)

Isn't it illegal in CO? Thought there was a statute on the books for Aurora anyway?

Even if the dog can be trained to stay in the back or tethered (which could easily result in asphyxiation), even with a forced stop, such as in an accident, the inertia that the dog is subject to can easily harm him. Why not just let the kids sit back there and throw them around and keep the dogs in front, safe? I have heard dogs should never be allowed to have their heads hanging out a moving car windows not just because of the dangers of decapitation but it causes conjunctivitis because of the wind blast to the eyes. As long as they can see the road or can sleep, they should be ok with motion sickness.

Sorry to go off... but, animal lover that I am, I'm still suprised at how much common sense is thrown out the window when it comes to the still active primitive treatment of animals, in particular dogs, still. And yeah, I grew up on a farm where we did allow our dogs to ride in the back and yep, it was pretty stupid. Which is why I've since evolved

[BlueDevil]

Are you fucking kidding me? Please PLEASE do not let your dog run around in the back of your truck people! Use a crate if you have to have him/her back there (I've got an extra one if you need Suki)

Isn't it illegal in CO? Thought there was a statute on the books for Aurora anyway?

Even if the dog can be trained to stay in the back or tethered (which could easily result in asphyxiation), even with a forced stop, such as in an accident, the inertia that the dog is subject to can easily harm him. Why not just let the kids sit back there and throw them around and keep the dogs in front, safe? I have heard dogs should never be allowed to have their heads hanging out a moving car windows not just because of the dangers of decapitation but it causes conjunctivitis because of the wind blast to the eyes. As long as they can see the road or can sleep, they should be ok with motion sickness.

Sorry to go off... but, animal lover that I am, I'm still suprised at how much common sense is thrown out the window when it comes to the still active primitive treatment of animals, in particular dogs, still. And yeah, I grew up on a farm where we did allow our dogs to ride in the back and yep, it was pretty stupid. Which is why I've since evolved




Though Im not going to be so harsh about it..... Id beg you pet owners not to do this...... It really takes one out of the pet lover and into the just plain cruel to pets category... Its just to dangerous, not to mention pretty bad for tear ducts in the long run.... If at all possible please do participate in this action........ Sorry not trying to stir a debate.... just my humble opinion......

[PhL0aTeR]

My dog rides in the back seat.

Dog in the bed of a truck = good way to lose your dog. Dog leashed to the vehicle when they try to jump out = good way to hang your dog or run them over.

x2

The only time i would ever consider letting any of my dogs ride in the back of a pickup is far off the main road. I used to let my pitts ride in the back seat of my dakota quad cab, then when we would get out to the lake, id let them out for a bit, then toss em in the back to go from place to place at the lake.

If you have a truck, get a topper, thats the only way i would feel totally secure with myself about having my digs ride back there, even though, i would even consider getting a new car if my dogs couldnt all fit (i just tested that.... bought a Durango) because my dogs are like my kids.... i would let my best human friends ride in the back before i let my dog ride back there on the highway. Even with a topper, realize that its not climate controlled (ok so theyre spoiled with rear air in the durango) so if you are at a light and its hot outside, your bed could be anywhere from 10-30 degrees hotter, and with no breeze, thats hell.

I have a story from a guy who had a lhasa appso (SP?).... he was tooling down a bridge over a lake and his dog jumped out, hit the barrier and broke his jaw and front right leg, when he rolled and then slid, he got severe road rash on his "man pouch" and he even said he could see a nut coming out. Long story short, after a cast, wiring the jaw shut, and numerous stitches and even a skin graft, he still let him ride in the back of the truck, but in a kennel. After his dogs 5th ear infection, he decided to get an SUV (from an S-10) so that his dog could ride in the front.

There is alot of "what-if's" but id prefer nobody test and find out what could really happen, because there is alot of "worst case scenarios".


My .02, if your "family" is outgrowing your car.... buy a different car.

[Suki]

wow, didn't think this would cause such a uproar and categorizing of pet lovers and those that are cruel to animals. One of the biggest pet lover i know, that loves her dog like her own daughter, has occassionally had to have her dog ride in the back of the truck for a short distance, doesn't make her a dog abuser and certainly wouldn't deserve to accused of animal cruelty. there are people that chain their dogs up in their yard, starve them, beat them, train them for dog fighting, or lets think of the people that buy puppies because they're ohhh so cute and adorable, and then leave them in dog runs without water or shelter, or just because it's not convienent they get rid of them. Large breeds that are kept in tiny apartments, some would say that's cruel to such a beast to keep him caged in a small space all day.

either way, everyone has their views and draws their line at some point. I'm not that extreme and yes i love my dogs, and if the smaller one is getting trampled because there isn't enough room well i very well can't just get up and upgrade my truck or car, that's not realistic, but if i can find another SAFE way to transport my dog short distances then i'll go that route.

All that was asked was how a dog was trained to ride in the back, mainly trained so that it doesn't jump out and choke itself or isn't afraid of riding in the back, if that involves using a crate (which was brought up) then great, i would rather go that route. Like i said, it's for SHORT distances on residential streets, a few minutes. and yada ya i know the "most accidents happen within a mile of your house" line, but that's not going to keep me, my family or our dogs in a bubble.

And actually, yes my son has jumped in the back of the truck and rode in it around the neighborhood, he's ridden in the back of trucks when we've gone camping, i've ridden in the back of my cousins truck when we were not much older than my son while we went 4x4 riding through river beds, getting bounced around and water splashed all over us.

So for any of those that are against this and want to put me right up there with Michael Vick over a form of transporting dogs, fine, go ahead.

[Devaclis]

All you people with your safety/well being crap. In the country, we always had our dogs ride in the back of the pickup with no issue at all. Being in the "city", I tie my dog up so she won't jump out, but she doesn't have enough "rope to hang herself".

I suppose you guys have something against lead based paint too!!!

Could not agree more. Dogs are not dumb. They need to be trained. Stop being lazy and train your dog how to ride in the back of a truck. For fucks sake. When we bred labs for hunting we would teach them how to ride in a truck. Takes about a week to do it right. With over 100 dogs trained we never had an accident.

You people need to stop being hippiefied pussies and learn your dogs the old school way.

Oh, and take the damn helmet off your child. he is sleeping and falling out of the bed will not give him brain damage.

[salsashark]

Could not agree more. Dogs are not dumb. They need to be trained. Stop being lazy and train your dog how to ride in the back of a truck. For fucks sake. When we bred labs for hunting we would teach them how to ride in a truck. Takes about a week to do it right. With over 100 dogs trained we never had an accident.

You people need to stop being hippiefied pussies and learn your dogs the old school way.

Oh, and take the damn helmet off your child. he is sleeping and falling out of the bed will not give him brain damage.

No self respecting hippiefied pussy would ever drive my gas guzzling truck!

And yes, I guess I could train my lab no to jump from the truck or tie her to the bed... Or I could put her in the kennel that she's used to, trained to go in, and call it good.


Yeah... I think I'll stick with that

[Devaclis]

haha realize, you should never take anything I say seriously. I am only here to start shit.

I DO think it is ok to allow dogs to ride in the back of a pickup if you are off the main roads and going at a low speed.

I do not agree that your dog will die if you put him in the back. Just be smart about it.

[salsashark]

You?! :shocked:

Here to stir the pot?!


NEVER!




haha

[PhL0aTeR]

All that was asked was how a dog was trained to ride in the back, mainly trained so that it doesn't jump out and choke itself or isn't afraid of riding in the back, if that involves using a crate (which was brought up) then great, i would rather go that route. Like i said, it's for SHORT distances on residential streets, a few minutes. and yada ya i know the "most accidents happen within a mile of your house" line, but that's not going to keep me, my family or our dogs in a bubble.

You cannot ever guarantee that a dog will not jump out of the back of a truck no matter how much training they have. Hell you cant even guarantee kids will stay back there no matter how much training they have..... lol

I would say that putting your dog in the back of the truck for short distances will draw the same debate as not putting gear on to ride down to the corner store for some bread. Its a calculated risk, my only issue with that, is when you chose to not wear gear, you are calculating YOUR OWN RISK (assuming you dont have someone on the back) its only you that you hurt if you wreck. If you chose to put your dog in the back, and he gets hurt, you made a calculated risk decision for someone other than yourself.



I guess i can apologize for how my words are ingested, but i care alot about dogs because they cant (for the most part) care for themselves when put into certain situations. The other day I pulled up to a Carls Jr and noticed a minivan with all but one window up which was cracked 2 inches, not running with a pitt bull in it. I made a comment, and gwen told me to mind my business. By the time that we got our food, it was making me sick to see the dog out there, and as we sat down and ate, i lasted about 5 more min before i asked the manager if she knew whose car it was. she pointed to a girl who had been there for what appeared for quite some time so i approached her, and asked her how long she planned on leaving that dog out there in 90 degree heat, and she rushed out and left, assumably she forgot she had left him in there, but who knows....

I'm not comparing you to her, Suki, just justifying my responses so you know where im coming from. If the calculated risk is low enough to where your comfortable with taking the risk, go for it..... i do it every day when i ride to and from work with no gear cuz i live less than a mile from work.