Yay!! You are losing your freedoms, woohooo!!!

[Devaclis]

Make sure you don't offer your buddy a cig. You could get into legal trouble:

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=79148

[Yellow Bullet]

Thats just retarded...

Daemon, can I bum a smoke?

[mclarke]

I got these cheeeeseburgers man.........

[Devaclis]

No sir, you cannot give away coupons for perfectly legal items.

Pretty soon you will not be able to buy a round of drinks for your friends. can't go giving out free alcohol.

No carpooling to work. Free rides are illegal

What? You won free tickets on the radio? I am gonna have to confiscate those sir. People can't be giving things away for free. Damn ingrates!

[puckstr]

Wanna lose your FREEDOMS?

GET MARRIED

[mrbeefy]

Just keep Voting Republican...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=prescott+bush&search=Search

[dirkterrell]

Just keep Voting Republican...

The Dems aren't any better. They (politicians) all just want to force people think and act like they do. Fortunately there's enough antagonism between the two camps to keep things from spiraling out of control.

Dirk

[Big-J]

Im pretty sure you haven't lost your right to bum a smoke, Dana. Its the tobacco companies that will not be able to had out samples of any kind.

[Devaclis]

the way the law will be written, and the way it will be enforced can be 2 totally different things. And why is it that ANY company that produces legal products cannot give out free samples? Because those who do not smoke, and are nicotine Nazi's, wish to force their views on the rest of the world. They are not happy just being a non smoker. They HAVE to force everyone to live the way they live. I don't drive a chevy. I think they should be outlawed. Because I know what is right for you and your family. And you obviously cannot make good decisions on your own.

[puckstr]

The Dems aren't any better. They (politicians) all just want to force people think and act like they do. Fortunately there's enough antagonism between the two camps to keep things from spiraling out of control.

Dirk


They are all corrupt Dems, Reps, and Indies.
Absolute power, Corrupts Absoultely

[pilot]

Here is one from personal experience:

I use to be the Operations Manager at Fiddler's Green Amphitheater in the DTC (this was back in the early 90's). Well, we had a contract to hand out those free 1/4 packs (five smokes in a box) to the public as they were coming in to a concert. So there I am standing in front of this 60 foot long transport container, crammed full of cigarettes--like the kind you see being transported on ships-- handing my staff baskets full of smokes and saying, "Alright, if they look old enough to smoke shove 'em in their hand!" and at the same time I'm yelling out to 100 or so employees, "And if you see a ticket scalper, toss 'em in the weeds!"

Anybody here use to work for me or in the concert biz --Fiddler's, Mammoth, most any other show house in town? Man those were the days... partying with the real "Rock Stars".

[Devaclis]

^^ Was this inside the ticket line or outside the venue? Just curious. That would have been a fun gig to have :)

[pilot]

^^ Was this inside the ticket line or outside the venue? Just curious. That would have been a fun gig to have :)Well, there were no laws about scalping and I even had some friends who scalped. So we just made it tough for them to do it on property where we were responsible for the general movement of traffic. Sometimes it would be a contest to see who could yell louder, from the same corner, a group of scalpers or my staff directing people and cars.

Yah, for four years, it was a fun job and I saw my fair share of "back stage" reality.

[mrbeefy]

The Dems aren't any better. They (politicians) all just want to force people think and act like they do. Fortunately there's enough antagonism between the two camps to keep things from spiraling out of control.

Dirk

nobody could be any worse than Chimpy and his Crime Syndicate...

What Corporate America does not want is to have to pay taxes, the Iraq Gravy Train to end...... Walmart to have to actually provide real benefits and a Salary that does not qualify for Food Stamps and Welfare....

Say NO to Corporate Welfare......

Should YOUR Taxes Subsidize Walmart? TOO LATE!! it already is.....

Should YOUR Taxes Subsidize Evangelicals Jet Set Lifestyle?????? again...

TOO LATE, because it already is at a tune of $1.2 BILLION dollars of YOUR Tax money.

So the age old slam of Tax and Spend Democraps does not apply,

wake up.. Reality and PROOF shows that we have Drunken Tax and Spend Repukes... in the White House and had recent control of BOTH the House and Senate......

And there are NOT enough votes to overcome Chimpy's Vetoes.... so dont Blame Democraps for Chimpy and Congress's Failures. Blame who is Responsible, Chimpy and the Repukes....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iovdIiSE8T8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hRvj22RWs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o this one is classic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lehXXu7LaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7CH9zvD6s

Its better to be me than it is to be someone that voted for a Repuke...

[Devaclis]

Funny, I don't think I paid $1.2 billion on taxes. Hmm........

And you are right, Dems NEVER do anything dishonest, wrong, selfish, or blatantly against the wishes of their supporters. Never.

[mrbeefy]

Funny, I don't think I paid $1.2 billion on taxes. Hmm........

And you are right, Dems NEVER do anything dishonest, wrong, selfish, or blatantly against the wishes of their supporters. Never.

Well, they could Invade Iran on your behalf......

They could classify national energy policies and have YOU pay $3 a gallon

Yes, If I have to do show and tell, I will, I will provide the facts that Your Tax money does in fact go to Evangelical Organizations.... After Chimpy got elected.. Not before.....

if anyone is dyslexic and has a cognitive disability, we can accommodate that, so nobody gets confused and thinks they are being told they have to pay or have already paid $1.2 billion in taxes individually

[Raptor]

Oh! Emm! Geeeeee! Dude. Give-it-a-fucking-break! Has it ever occurred to you that not every thread is meant to evolve into a vessel for your personal, selfish, one-sided, closed-minded, monotonous, droning agenda?! Yeah! That's right. There are actually these things called "thread topics" and sometimes they have absolutely nothing to do with your personal, bottle-necked views on fucking political corruption!

Might be time for you to wake up to the fact that if you haven't indoctrinated anyone else here to your views by now, it's not going to happen. Next step? Give the fuck up here or find more lucritive ground somewhere else.

@Mods/Admins: I know I don't know you guys but I'm at a loss as to why anyone who is clearly not interested in the basis of these forums and who has an uncanny talent for twisting literally any topic into a political tirade and relentlessly stirs up shit, would be allowed the privilege of anyone's private forums. ?? With all due respect, all I'm saying is that I just don't get it.

nobody could be any worse than Chimpy and his Crime Syndicate...

What Corporate America does not want is to have to pay taxes, the Iraq Gravy Train to end...... Walmart to have to actually provide real benefits and a Salary that does not qualify for Food Stamps and Welfare....

Say NO to Corporate Welfare......

Should YOUR Taxes Subsidize Walmart? TOO LATE!! it already is.....

Should YOUR Taxes Subsidize Evangelicals Jet Set Lifestyle?????? again...

TOO LATE, because it already is at a tune of $1.2 BILLION dollars of YOUR Tax money.

So the age old slam of Tax and Spend Democraps does not apply,

wake up.. Reality and PROOF shows that we have Drunken Tax and Spend Repukes... in the White House and had recent control of BOTH the House and Senate......

And there are NOT enough votes to overcome Chimpy's Vetoes.... so dont Blame Democraps for Chimpy and Congress's Failures. Blame who is Responsible, Chimpy and the Repukes....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iovdIiSE8T8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hRvj22RWs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SemYQH-8o this one is classic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lehXXu7LaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7CH9zvD6s

Its better to be me than it is to be someone that voted for a Repuke...

[Devaclis]

sometimes being book smart means believing everything you read.

[pilot]

sometimes being book smart means believing everything you read.I believe that.

[Devaclis]

^^ haha you got the irony!!! :)

[Filo]

sometimes being book smart means believing everything you read.

Dana, man, don't you have anything else to do? And Mr. Beefy - your points would carry much more weight without the histrionics.

As for the topic of the thread -

They (cigarette companies) are not allowed to hand out free sample. You are still able to bum cigarettes from friends. Since second hand smoke contains class A carcinogens and since nicotine is an addictive drug that the ATF decided to regulate, it is not really out of line that they limit giving away products. They are probably going for a two prong rationale - it is difficult to make sure no one under 18 is getting the free product (violating the law that no one under 18 can use tobacco) and it encourages smoking in public places (which is a weak argument). The tobacco industry only exists because it had a better lobby than the marijuana industry.

Now, let those who prescribe to the moral outrage theory of political discourse and those who subscribe to the political correctness theory weigh in.

Oh, and smoke 'em if you got 'em. Just not in my bar.

Oh, and Dana, I am over 18, and I am a cutie pie, but there is no way in hell I am letting you screw me.

[Devaclis]

Oh, and Dana, I am over 18, and I am a cutie pie, but there is no way in hell I am letting you screw me.

Man, the hate just keeps on commin'!!! I'll get you drunk enough. Mark my words!

[Devaclis]

Oh, and I really don't have a lot of better things to do today. Disagreeing with people is making the time pass a little more quickly :)

[Raptor]

I only smoke when I drink now but when I was a full timer, where the hell were all the free cig hander-outers back then?!
Maybe now the free alcoholic beverage hander-outers will fill in the empty space...until they illegalize that too.

[Filo]

Disagreeing with people is making the time pass a little more quickly :)

No it isn't.

[salsashark]

@Mods/Admins: I know I don't know you guys but I'm at a loss as to why anyone who is clearly not interested in the basis of these forums and who has an uncanny talent for twisting literally any topic into a political tirade and relentlessly stirs up shit, would be allowed the privilege of anyone's private forums. ?? With all due respect, all I'm saying is that I just don't get it.

I believe the administration enjoys watching the hamsters do the same thing day in and day out... :banghead:

Just put the trolls on the ignore list and move on...

[puckstr]

Well, they could Invade Iran on your behalf......

They could classify national energy policies and have YOU pay $3 a gallon

Yes, If I have to do show and tell, I will, I will provide the facts that Your Tax money does in fact go to Evangelical Organizations.... After Chimpy got elected.. Not before.....

if anyone is dyslexic and has a cognitive disability, we can accommodate that, so nobody gets confused and thinks they are being told they have to pay or have already paid $1.2 billion in taxes individually


$3 a gallon is CHEAP Really fucking CHEAP
Source USAtoday.com
April 2007 list

http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gifhttp://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif WORLD GASOLINE PRICEShttp://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gifGas prices on April 17 or 18. Data for EU countries were provided by the AA Motoring Trust. Prices are listed in U.S. dollarshttp://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/ipr/grey.gif
United Kingdom
$8.37

Netherlands
$7.52

Norway
$7.33

Belgium
$6.95

Denmark
$6.95

Germany
$6.72

Portugal
$6.65

Finland
$6.57

France
$6.50

Sweden
$6.50

Hungary
$5.63

Poland
$5.63

Slovakia
$5.59

Austria
$5.40

Ireland
$5.40

Slovenia
$5.36

Switzerland
$5.17

Spain
$5.14

Czech Republic
$5.10

Greece
$4.91

Italy
$4.80

Lithuania
$4.72

Latvia
$4.61

Estonia
$4.30

Luxembourg
$4.27

Japan
$4.16

United States
$2.88

Kazakhstan
$2.75

Russia
$2.68

Mexico
$2.38

China
$2.19

Nigeria
$1.92

Saudi Arabia
$0.45

Venezuela
$0.19

[Slo1299]

With all due respect, all I'm saying is that I just don't get it.

:drink:for some reason I thought of this quote when reading your post....

"Mr. Dennit, with all due respect, and remember I'm sayin' it with all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

[Bueller]

@Mods/Admins: I know I don't know you guys but I'm at a loss as to why anyone who is clearly not interested in the basis of these forums and who has an uncanny talent for twisting literally any topic into a political tirade and relentlessly stirs up shit, would be allowed the privilege of anyone's private forums. ?? With all due respect, all I'm saying is that I just don't get it.
Common consensus

[Raptor]

Hey Mods/Admins,
Nothing but faith in you guys now. :)

:drink:for some reason I thought of this quote when reading your post....

"Mr. Dennit, with all due respect, and remember I'm sayin' it with all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

:pointlaugh:

[Bueller]

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WoooooHooooo!
One down.

[DavidofColorado]

With the price of cigarettes I need freebies to subsidize my habit.

[DavidofColorado]

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WoooooHooooo!
One down.

Is he banned? That would be so sweet. It would be like the utopia he was always ranting about.

[Devaclis]

They (cigarette companies) are not allowed to hand out free sample. You are still able to bum cigarettes from friends. Since second hand smoke contains class A carcinogens and since nicotine is an addictive drug that the ATF decided to regulate, it is not really out of line that they limit giving away products. They are probably going for a two prong rationale - it is difficult to make sure no one under 18 is getting the free product (violating the law that no one under 18 can use tobacco) and it encourages smoking in public places (which is a weak argument). The tobacco industry only exists because it had a better lobby than the marijuana industry.

Now, let those who prescribe to the moral outrage theory of political discourse and those who subscribe to the political correctness theory weigh in.

Until it is illegal for adults to possess, use, and distribute this "Controlled" substance, I should be free to possess, use, and distribute. Caffeine is is addictive too. I get free samples at FiveBucks all the time. Aspirin is an FDA regulated goodie but I get free samples in the mail. The hate on smokers is that it has a byproduct that non smokers do not want, smoke. If you do not like going into a bar that is filled with smoke, go to another bar. Don't take away my right to enjoy a smoke, in public, with my friends, without freezing my ass off on the patio.

Unfortunately issues like this do not mean as much to most people or have an effect on them, as it does to me. I am being bullied out of a freedom. One day the bully needs to get punched in the nose.

[puckstr]

Is he banned? That would be so sweet. It would be like the utopia he was always ranting about.

Yes it looks that way.
I will drink and smoke to that:drink:

[Nick_Ninja]

Mr. Beef Bowl goes away:yay:

[InlineSIX24]

The NSA will be swarming this place within hours.

[salsashark]

http://www.cultureshiftclothing.com/lrg_imgs/CUL019full.gif

[King Nothing]

http://www.cultureshiftclothing.com/lrg_imgs/CUL019full.gif:lol: FTW!

[DavidofColorado]

You can't punch someone in the nose who doesn't have the guts to show themselves.