Landmark Education Seminars~ Have you attended?

[pilot]

I'm interested in hearing from those of you who have attended the Landmark Education seminars. Forum, Advanced, Leadership, etc.

What did you like:)?
What did you find less than fulfilling:(?
How have you benefited from the training?
Anything else?

I ask as I am interested and may be attending. I am not looking to form an opinion, just expand my view.

Thank you.

[siriuschris]

I did the Forum years ago...transformed my life.
Nothing can possibly prepare you for it, and I won't take the chance of leaving you with either reservations or expectations.
Only thing I'll say is stay in your seat! =)
We'll talk more after you complete it.

Chris

[Zanos]

When I was at the Grand Hyatt they had a seminar going on. I talked to one man because I was confused on all the name tags and what all the people feeding out of the large seminar room where talking about that was so special.

He stated that it is "The best thing he has ever done with his life" and told me all the basic stuff that you read on the website.

I looked into the website to see if it was a waste of money or if everyone I would have talked to would have said the same as that one man.

I would like to hear about it if you go for sure.

[Vance]

Sounds like a cult.

DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!!!!!

[Devaclis]

Is this similar to the PSI seminars? I have taken the Basic and found it to be a good experience, but also a mass marketing tool.

[Nick_Ninja]

Go up to NOLS in Lander, WY.

[mtnairlover]

People who think that "learning" ends when you get to a certain age have no idea how much that deadens the mind. Anyway, here's what I found on the website...http://www.landmarkeducation.com/display_content.jsp?top=21&mid=84

Educational Methodology

Standard educational methods often leave you having to remember the concepts you were taught or trying to figure out how to apply them. Landmark's method leaves you applying what you learned naturally and without effort.

Similar to riding a bicycle, in Landmark's programs you learn by direct personal discovery - a moment occurs when a new ability is yours. You become confident in what you've learned, and the new ability is yours forever.

The Landmark method is more like coaching than teaching, more like conversation than lecture. While conventional education methods focus on content (adding facts, rules, or skills to our knowledge), the Landmark method deals with context - the framework(s) in which content can exist.
Whenever we're limited in life, there is something - a context or framework - that we are blind to and that is holding that limitation in place.

Landmark's technology allows you to create breakthroughs in a two-step process in which you:
• Uncover and examine the blind spots or context holding you back in your life.
• Find out where your current context originated and address it for what it really is.

Having completed these two steps, a new realm of possibility is available to you. The constraints from the past disappear. Your view of life, your thoughts, your feelings, and your actions, change - and the change is immediate, dramatic, and without effort. It is a breakthrough.

Take a look at the course syllabus to get a better idea of what will be covered and discussed.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Sounds like a cult.

DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!!!!!
....and watch the grape Kool-Aid......:shocked:

[636Chick]

Sounds like a cult.

DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!!!!!

....and watch the grape Kool-Aid......:shocked:

Sorry Pilot I know you are looking for serious imput here but............................................... ..................


Freakin BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! :spit:

[wulf]

In my opinion, it's damn cult.

Email BuzzBe, she goes to them alot.

[BuzzBe]

Yes, Wulf spent many lonely nights while I went off to Landmark. They enroll you to assist with all kinds of things as a volunteer after you take the first course. And yes they offer you more courses as you finish each one. Wulf might say they forced me into the other courses, but it's really not like that. He is very good at saying NO. I was always wanting more, so I'd say maybe and eventually, they'd get me signed up for something else.

Wulf, you can respond for yourself. But they offer multiple ways to get introduced to the Landmark curriculum and Wulf has not attended any of these. He has considered attending as a favor to me, but so far, he only has seen Landmark through observing me. And I have put in a lot of volunteer hours there.

But, I've been doing it for 3 years and I'm still going. I even am coaching in one of the classes right now and it's a 4 month program.

The Forum is 3 days of transformation that you'll never completely understand even after you go through it. You ask yourself why didn't I do it sooner.

The Advanced is an in your face, why am whining about my life. I can choose to be however I want to be.

The rest is more focused on specific skills like leadership, communication and integrity. They are selling their courses and you always have a choice. They are good sales people, but not a cult.

It's changed my life dramatically and even though I still feel like I spend too many hours attending and volunteering there sometimes, I also know that I chose to do it. I really do get a lot of value out of the training and my participation.

I would highly recommend you attend the Forum. You choose what you want to do from there. But it's 3 days and a few hundred dollars. How many times have you spent 3 days and a few hundred dollars for something you thought might be a fun weekend and you barely remember later? This will change your life.

[Jmetz]

I've pretty much only heard negative things about it. Very cult like and such. It was recently discussed on another forum I'm on. Here's some the responses.

Had a friend who went through the basic, kinda-expensive course, said it helped him with alot of his issues. It actually seemed to help him- he called me and cleared the air about some things that we had butted heads over a long time ago, and he seemed to have a healthier mindset, for a while...

He went back for the second round, paid a lot more $$, and basically said that they started demeaning him, telling him that all his work was bullshit, that all his progress to that point was futile and that he had to basically forget who he was and devote his life to Landmark to make anything of himself.

J is involved in this right now and I have been avoiding his phone calls because of it. More power to him, wish him the best, but I've found their advances to be way out of line with the way I live and think. Some people seem to find value in the way they try to restructure your thinking. My friend was NOT one of those people, and they got very aggressive and rude, almost threatening, after he took himself out of it all.

Sketchy in the extreme, IMO.

I have some friends (very good people) who have counted it as a very positive experience (yes, even with that twinkly gleam in their eyes) - it seems to have really helped them with some tough issues, for what that's worth. Of course, we inevitably got invited to share in the bliss of landmarkification, which right off the bat set off some internal warnings, but we tried out one of the introductory forums. The theoretical message encouraging people to take control of their lives and feelings was fundamentally valid, if not really all that original, but the constant upselling to get involved in the higher-level forums and other activities was too creepy and cultlike, so we left. To each their own. I don't really even care if someone's a Scientologist, so long as they don't bother me about it.

If you're considering it, though, I wouldn't. There's nothing there you can't learn elsewhere minus the brainwashy vibe.

I'm friends with a few people that went through it, but wasn't friends with them while they were going through it. They told me it helped to a point but that it got weird after awhile. I can't imagine things like that being good.

[mtnairlover]

If that's what this whole thing is about (what JMetz) posted, then don't do it...or do it if you wanna shell out the $$$ for someone to tell you that essentially what it all boils down to is it is "YOUR CHOICE" what you feel, think, deal with on a daily basis...how you perceive things and how you let those things affect you.

I'm a stubborn lil shit. I refuse to pay money to figure out what's wrong with me. I don't need no stinking pills to feel good either. What I feel, think, perceive is my f'n choice plain and simple. If I want my world to be clouded with horse manuer, then dernit it will be.

Have a nice day:)

[BuzzBe]

Everybody gets something different out of it. It's up to you how you go about self discovery and if the Landmark courses make sense for you, enjoy the journey.

[pilot]

Sounds like quite a few varying opinions. Looks like the positive is that it is beneficial to developing self awareness and motivation, and negative with the hard re-sell.