Lift the front tire, endorsement revoked for 10 years

[MrMischief]

http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/ten_year_ban_for_pulling_a_wheelie/1969.html

I haven't seen this posted yet and I haven't seen any other press coverage on it either.

[McVaaahhh]

Don't wheelie in Florida. :D

The only thing I don't like is that it singles out bikes. There is a shit-ton of dangerous behavior out there besides wheelies. If you're going to do this for dangerous stunts on bikes you need to include street-racing, drifting, etc. etc.

I think the first thing that needs to be done is to start punishing more common dangers like talking on cell phones and shit like that.

[PhL0aTeR]

man i need one of them "flipping number plates"......

[Xtremjeepn]

It will never pass.

The punishment is not even close to the crime. Hell, most DUI drivers don't get that stiff of a penalty after killing someone.

[Mother Goose]

So they want to do this for people they can't catch anyways? HTF are they going to take their licence away and put them in jail if they can't even find them now? Seems like a waist of time to me.

[Mental]

Its just another knee-jerk legislation to get sokeone elected. Like hate crime or zero tolerence policies.

[rforsythe]

It will never pass.

The punishment is not even close to the crime. Hell, most DUI drivers don't get that stiff of a penalty after killing someone.

Since when does that matter?

[puckstr]

Since when does that matter?


ALWAYS

duh

[motorcycleman]

not all Cubans make great politicians....

*State representative Carlos Lopez-Cantera is the one responsible for this mindless solution*

"This guy did a wheelie," Lopez-Cantera said of one motorcyclist. "It's unbelievable.....

*its exactly this type of mindset that we do not need*

These motorcycles passed us like we were standing still." Lopez-Cantera said he witnessed racers speeding at up to 120mph on the Dolphin Expressway.
"They're just blatantly riding in excessive speeds, putting themselves and other motorists in danger," Lopez-Cantera said. "It's just too much."

*Is it Carlos? GO BACK TO CUBA! They dont have sport bikes..... Carlos, you could help your nephew rebuild the carburator on that 54' Chysler Imperial... you know, the one with the wooden wagon wheel rims, then Jorge' the mule won't have to drag that 5000lb rig all over havana anymore*

True to his word, Lopez-Cantera filed a bill in Tallahassee after the ride-along that would toughen penalties on speeding, stunt driving and hiding or flipping number plates.

"They'll lose their bike," Lopez-Cantera said. "Their motorcycle license will be revoked for 10 years, and it's a mandatory arrest so they will go to jail."


*aaaaghhhh I see. Problem solved.... lock those criminal riders up, where they belong with the murderers and other ex politicians*

[Slo1299]

Glad I don't do wheelies anymore and glad I don't live in Florida any longer either... Jacksonville is known for having 7 bridges.... I was known on those bridges ;)

I was able to just plead no contest to all my wheelie tickets back then, but had to pay a huge amount for insurance once I got my license back. Had to give up riding for a couple years, wasn't worth it in the end.

[Mr_RC]

Since we are not in Florida, here is a link to a cool license plate kit for those who don't like speeding tickets or police.

http://www.morepoweracing.com/product.asp?s=2zik9g1341129&strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=540%2C9599&CAT_ID=9599&P_ID=4243&btnProduct=More+Details

[Mental]

...

"Thees ghuy deed a wheehlee," Lopez-Cantera said of one motorcyclist. "It's unbaheehable.....

Deese moetohrsighkilz pahsed us like we were stahnding steel." Lopez-Cantera said he witnessed racers speeding at up to 120mph on the Dolphin Expressway.
"They're just blahtantantlee rihding in exzessif speeds, puhtting theemselves an otter mohtoreest in dahger," Lopez-Cantera said. "Is jus too muhch."

True to his word, Lopez-Cantera filed a bill in Tallahassee after the ride-along that would toughen penalties on speeding, stunt driving and hiding or flipping number plates.

"Theh lose their buyhke," Lopez-Cantera said. "Their motorcycle liezense will be rehvoked for 10 jears, and is mandahory harrest so they will goh to yale."


Fixed

[PhL0aTeR]

Since we are not in Florida, here is a link to a cool license plate kit for those who don't like speeding tickets or police.

http://www.morepoweracing.com/product.asp?s=2zik9g1341129&strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=540%2C9599&CAT_ID=9599&P_ID=4243&btnProduct=More+Details

Im trying to justify a $200 purchase that in itself would give me a ticket if caught.... lol

[motorcycleman]

Fixed

that is called TEAMWORK...

[Xtremjeepn]

Since when does that matter?



Since the 8th amendment:D

[Kanabiis]

Since the 8th amendment:D

I was going to say the same thing, apparently it doesnt exsist in Cuba, which would explain why it was proposed by Lopez-Cantera in the first place....

If this passes it will be shot down fairly quickly.

[clustermagnet]

AWESOME...

these bastards deserve every penny

[clustermagnet]

any dipshit can twist the throttle and pop a wheelie...
:bow:
finally a decent thing coming down the pipe from law enforcement

DIE STUNTERS DIE

just like that idiotic show "superbikes" on speed

[clustermagnet]

Since we are not in Florida, here is a link to a cool license plate kit for those who don't like speeding tickets or police.

http://www.morepoweracing.com/product.asp?s=2zik9g1341129&strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=540%2C9599&CAT_ID=9599&P_ID=4243&btnProduct=More+Details

Ziggy had one... :(

[Matty]

man i need one of them "flipping number plates"......
you could makeone for a hundred bux.

[clustermagnet]

i say make these douche bags take school... instead of losing their privs...

http://www.superbikeschool.com/schedule/

[Xtremjeepn]

I totally agree that if you get caught screwing around class is a better alternative. I do take offense to calling anyone that does a wheelie a douch bag. There is a time and place.

[clustermagnet]

I totally agree that if you get caught screwing around class is a better alternative. I do take offense to calling anyone that does a wheelie a douch bag. There is a time and place.

im sorry. let me rephrase myself.

wheelie doers are HHHUGE DOUCH BAGS

[Bueller]

Idiot

[Xtremjeepn]

:jerkoff:

[Brat]

man i need one of them "flipping number plates"......
i coulda rigged you up a plate that flips to another plate. within the undertail.. when we painted the busa. :D lol. .

[clustermagnet]

ok...

A. To learn a sit-down wheelie, 1st gear, down the block.... +- 1 day
(about average most of these fuck heads can do)
A.1 to learn a standup... another day or two...
to start balancing it... another week.... and a totaled bike.
all the rest can be learned in almost one summer with enough passion for showing off infront of the posers... (read below)
---------



stuntas = parking lot thugs, like that idiot on speedTV... and yes, the show looks like a mug shot board at a local pig station. http://www.wera.com/graphics/smilies/crackup.gif
frontas = douche bags attempting their first stoppie
pposas = standing around admiring all the RnD money going to shit


------

B... To get good enough to even think about getting your knee down... +- several seasons of rrrriding... canyons... then do a track day or two... mmmaybe get your knee down... and get blown the hell away by everyone else.



my god i love trolling http://forums.13x.com/images/smilies/smile.gif j/k fellas

[Xtremjeepn]

If anything I would almost say this law is more appropriate for canyon runners than guys doing wheelies. Running around blind corners at 3x the speed limit is MUCH more dangerous than riding on one wheel in a straight line.

Wheelies are not a easy as you make it seem either, nor is getting a knee down. Hell I can drag my knee all over my culdesac at 15mph.

I did happen to catch an episode of superbikes where they let road racers play on the stuntbikes. Very few of them could even do a wheelie. So where is this mad skill they have from draggin knees? (they crashed a lot)

[Matty]

I did happen to catch an episode of superbikes where they let road racers play on the stuntbikes. Very few of them could even do a wheelie. So where is this mad skill they have from draggin knees? (they crashed a lot)
that was a good episode. it was up at Willow Springs in SoCal.

best quote of the episode, was when one of the "Road Racers" said while STUNTING, that he can't remeber the last time he had so much fun.


why do so many peope hate on Stunters???

and don't give me that shit, they do wheelies on the freeways and in traffic, etc....

shit, canyon riders speed through the twistys riding reckless, breaking speed laws, etc...


awh whateva...

[motorcycleman]

Hat's off to "Stunters"... I admire anyone that can work mad stunna skills.....

me, I am working on hitting the turns just right and rolling into the next turn....

[clustermagnet]

that was a good episode. it was up at Willow Springs in SoCal.

best quote of the episode, was when one of the "Road Racers" said while STUNTING, that he can't remeber the last time he had so much fun.


why do so many peope hate on Stunters???

and don't give me that shit, they do wheelies on the freeways and in traffic, etc....

shit, canyon riders speed through the twistys riding reckless, breaking speed laws, etc...


awh whateva...


in the same episode... a dirt biker who has never been on a rocket before... was making MANY stunnas look stupid... first day

all I am saying is that stunting for the most part is not that difficult... hence the asshat regards towards those morons from the racing community

[clustermagnet]

and lets get the lingo straight... stop calling them stunnas.... FRONTAS... ok! FRONTAHS

[Xtremjeepn]

in the same episode... a dirt biker who has never been on a rocket before... was making MANY stunnas look stupid... first day




I'm pretty sure a dirt biker also set the fastest lap time. Of course a lot of dirt biking is stunting too. :shocked:

[clustermagnet]

I'm pretty sure a dirt biker also set the fastest lap time. Of course a lot of dirt biking is stunting too. :shocked:

but this is off topic :)... all I was saying that it takes a day to learn a wheelie to go down the street...

aka

frontas

[Xtremjeepn]

I would not disagree with you that anyone that can "only" wheelie is a tool. But lumping "anyone" that does wheelie into that group is just not right.

I've been riding a LONG time and enjoy the occasional wheelie. I don't go showboating down main street! But I do enjoy playing a bit when NO ONE is watching.

[Jenny]

I would not disagree with you that anyone that can "only" wheelie is a tool. But lumping "anyone" that does wheelie into that group is just not right.

I've been riding a LONG time and enjoy the occasional wheelie. I don't go showboating down main street! But I do enjoy playing a bit when NO ONE is watching.

And there's the difference.

[Sortarican]

...why do so many peope hate on Stunters???
...

We don't hate Stunters...we just hate YOU Matty.
(J/K, Nuthin but love little brother.)

I honestly can't remember the last time I did a lagitimate wheelie.
Probably at least 15 years ago and on a dirtbike.

If I had a bike with a roll cage and such it might be fun to mess around and try to learn some tricks.
Just too expensive to play asphalt commando on my road bikes.
(As I learned trying my first stoppie.)

[Slo1299]

Both groups have a few people that will put out a bad name for others. But of course theres also the few that try to be a bit more respectable towards the public.

For the stunt minded people, there are those that don't feel like they are putting others at risk when they are (I was guilty of this before as well).... And then there are those that are more intersted in turning. But pushing and showboating up in the mountains, curvy on/off ramps, etc while still putting others at risk.

Unfortunately most of the general public will only see and remember the 1 bad one, not the remaining 10 that tried to do the right thing.

[Mother Goose]

im sorry. let me rephrase myself.

wheelie doers are HHHUGE DOUCH BAGS
And hereeeeeee we go

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Just too expensive to play asphalt commando on my road bikes.
(As I learned trying my first stoppie.)
First and LAST stoppie!:cry:

[Xtremjeepn]

....but according to clustermagnet those stoppies are so easy a caveman can do them....

[Bueller]

I think clusterfuck has a bad case of the jealousy. I'll bet he can't get it up.
Sure a wheelie is easy, and you can learn to do it in one afternoon, but how good of a wheelie? I can go to a track and in an afternoon I can figure out how to get around it and drag a knee without falling down. That doesn't mean I have it mastered.
I ride wheelies all day long but I am constantly learning things about riding them, and getting better with each one. If they were easy they would get boring and no one would do them. I know (3) MRA #1 plate holders that I see ride wheelies all the time, you think they are frontas?
all I am saying is that stunting for the most part is not that difficult... hence the asshat regards towards those morons from the racing community
Are you the racing community or just another track wannabe racer?

[Raptor]

Ouch!

[clustermagnet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXJc2v16Uo

Bueller, im nobody important... my PMI times were 40s 2 years ago.... but then i moved, and probably got a ton better.

stuntas fucking suck

[clustermagnet]

teeehehhhehhheh
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uyycV9qHLb0&feature=related

[clustermagnet]

and until US frontahs start wearing proper gear (1piece suits, boots, back protection, etc) they are all fucking morons to me

[RYBO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXJc2v16Uo

Bueller, im nobody important... my PMI times were 40s 2 years ago.... but then i moved, and probably got a ton better.

stuntas fucking suck

If your VIR times are representative you would run low 40's (41-42ish) at PMI

[clustermagnet]

If your VIR times are representative you would run low 40's (41-42ish) at PMI

thanks Scott, i knew i got worse :D hhhheh

back to youtube for more "dumb fuck motorcycle stunt videos"

[The Black Knight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXJc2v16Uo

Bueller, im nobody important... my PMI times were 40s 2 years ago.... but then i moved, and probably got a ton better.

stuntas fucking suck


How do you figure in the 1:40's? You were at the last two track days I did. And I distinctly remember your GSX-R600(Black/Silver). Only reason I remember you, is you are tall and I'd seen you on several mountain rides as well. But if you were running in the 1:40's then my buddy Eli and I were in the high 1:30's. Because there were several occasions during "street sessions" where we lapped you not once, but many times. Funny thing is, he and I timed ourselves and our fastest was 1:44's on basically stock GSX-R1000's(save for a few bolt-ons).

Like I say, main reason I remembered you, was the fact I'd seen you on several canyon rides and the way you rode at the track. For some reason I could tell you got very irritated when people stacked up behind you and wanted to pass, yet you'd get real fat in corners and take up passing lines. I remember us bearing down on you in coming out of #9 and into #10. Eli and I split you right as we got onto the straight. My man if you were running in the 1:40's, then I'm Moses.

And if stunters suck? Then you've gone turncoat, because I remember all the guys you road with and most of them did tons of stunts. How do I know, well I was there on those rides.

[RYBO]

there is no way he was at the last two track days at PMI...he lives in New York

[The Black Knight]

there is no way he was at the last two track days at PMI...he lives in New York

The "the last two track days I did". Back in 2006.

[clustermagnet]

How do you figure in the 1:40's? You were at the last two track days I did. And I distinctly remember your GSX-R600(Black/Silver). Only reason I remember you, is you are tall and I'd seen you on several mountain rides as well. But if you were running in the 1:40's then my buddy Eli and I were in the high 1:30's. Because there were several occasions during "street sessions" where we lapped you not once, but many times. Funny thing is, he and I timed ourselves and our fastest was 1:44's on basically stock GSX-R1000's(save for a few bolt-ons).

Like I say, main reason I remembered you, was the fact I'd seen you on several canyon rides and the way you rode at the track. For some reason I could tell you got very irritated when people stacked up behind you and wanted to pass, yet you'd get real fat in corners and take up passing lines. I remember us bearing down on you in coming out of #9 and into #10. Eli and I split you right as we got onto the straight. My man if you were running in the 1:40's, then I'm Moses.

And if stunters suck? Then you've gone turncoat, because I remember all the guys you road with and most of them did tons of stunts. How do I know, well I was there on those rides.

You are absolutely right, you are god dood. The high 40s came out of Gene's mouth, and the last time I was at pueblo, was with a few select friends (4play), had the track to ourselves, dont remember no eli.

[RYBO]

The "the last two track days I did". Back in 2006.


Sorry....my mistake

[clustermagnet]

correction, must have said high 40s. flame the fuck on

who cares

you are god like i said

[The Black Knight]

You are absolutely right, you are god dood. The high 40s came out of Gene's mouth, and the last time I was at pueblo, was with a few select friends (4play), had the track to ourselves, dont remember no eli.


I'm not denying that you got fast. I'm saying that when I was there, you weren't fast. I know you really worked with Gene. No discredit there. But you said last time you were out at PMI was around 2 years ago. Well that would have put you right about when I was there.

And based on when I was there, you weren't in the 1:40's. Are you now? Sure, if you're racing I'm sure you've gotten faster. But 2 years ago you weren't. Unless you were having a total "OFF" day.

And no you wouldn't remember myself or Eli at those track days in 2006. We didn't introduce ourselves. Fact is, we ususally keep to ourselves in a small group of riders we know. But I remember alot, and I've seen many of the people on this board at track days.

[The Black Knight]

correction, must have said high 40s. flame the fuck on

who cares

you are god like i said


I'm not flaming you. Just calling some corrections. Mainly with the stunter blasts. Because I remember that you were buddies with alot of guys I did rides with and most of them did tons of stunts. So I was kind of wondering why you hate stunts and stunters, when all of the guys you got along with were really into it. That was the main reason for doing mountain rides back then. To go and rip, in the canyons and then get up in the mountains and alot of the guys just messed around doing wheelies and other stuff.

[Tipys]

just remember if it does happen to pass then they will try and pass it everywhere. i also heard about this a while ago and it wasnt just for wheelies it was for any bike that goes 25mph over or reckless driving. and for the guy that hates stunnas just let them do there thing they let you do yours.

[clustermagnet]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zwWZFG6k8QM

[Tipys]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zwWZFG6k8QM


idoits

[motorcycleman]

I was at that track too and I ran a... a..... 1:15, yeah, thats it.. thats the ticket... yeah :crazy: