Dealin wit tha Police!

[Stitches]

Ok started riding to work almost daily, and in anticipation of contact with local law enforement I was wondering what proper manners, to use when dealing with the police. What should I have on me? What works, and what dosen't? If there are plice officers reading this, what are your pet-peeves when pulling over a bike?

[fullgrownbear]

Just don't pull a gun on me, or a cell phone. Both the same. And keep yo space foo!

[dgoldan]

Well when CSP pulled us over last year on Peak to Peak, here's how the conversation went:

CSP - Is there some reason you were going so fast? (probably about 50 around a corner in a 30 zone)

Me - just poor judgement sir.

CSP - I'll agree with that.

After three of us received written warnings:

CSP - thanks for at least wearing helmets and protective gear. Slow down now.

Me - Yes sir, thank you.

Be polite, don't make up BS excuses for speeding, don't admit to anything they don't mention, have all of your paperwork where you can find it quickly, and remove your helmet so they can see your face and make eye contact.

[PhL0aTeR]

bring vaseline, but save enough for your court date

[thatmofo]

Just be respectful and you may luck out with a cool cop. It worked for me doing 90+ in 45. That car that seemed to be "trying to hang with me" turned his lights on during the second pull I made.

[Sully]

It worked for me doing 90+ in 45.

I predict your bike will be toast before summer is over... :shocked:

[DeeStylez]

:imwithstupid:

[thatmofo]

I predict your bike will be toast before summer is over... :shocked:

Oh so what are you, the role model MSF rider? You've never been pulled over on your bike for speeding?

[Sully]

Rode model for the MSF? No, never claiming to be. And actually, No, I've never been pulled over for speeding..

[RC51BUZZ]

Be respectful and admit to wrong doing, at least to an extent. 9 times out of 10 that works. Wear your gear as that will have a lot to do w/ their attitiude towards you (i.e. having a "safe" fun ride or being an idiot), and don't wear an ipod. Jsut a few tips from some guys w/ the other kind of badge.

[thatmofo]

I would never suggest that you admit that you were wrong. You're in America for Christ's sake! That's what court will determine. Say something like, "I know you wouldn't have pulled me over without a good reason."

[MetaLord 9]

I predict your bike will be toast before summer is over... :shocked:

go go gadget parts bike!

[guessinthe2000]

ditch that biatch.... They can only get you when they got helicopters after you... LOLL

[RC51BUZZ]

Sometimes being a wee bit different and admiting you were wrong will show the LEO that you are at least responsible enough and mature enough to let you off. As far as running from the LEO...... I know my job is very secure w/ that kind of thinking, we carry shovels on the engines for that reason.

:banghead:

[Dodd]

Honesty, attitude help alot. Make sure you have your paperwork (Reg, Ins, license) up to date and ready. HAVE A MOTORCYCLE ENDORSEMENT on your license. Stop immediatly. Coppers get irritated when they have to haul ass to catch someone, that puts them and other folks in danger. Wear proper gear. If you really don't think your in the wrong, don't argue or run your mouth, take it to court. I can tell you that with some agencies there are mandates for tickets, some not. So there is no one trick or word play that will work with all LEO's.

If your being dumb, your being dumb. However, if you are just riding "Offensively" in the interest of not becoming soccer mom (No offense to moms, I use that as an anology) SUV driving fodder, and you can articulate that, you may have more ground to stand on. But most LEO's I know don't ride, and don't understand what it is to keep alive in todays world of people paying absolutly no attention to what they are doing while piloting a 4000 lb. missle down the road. I do, and I take that into consideration, within reason. A short burst of speed with a quick lane change to get out of a wolfpack of cars is one thing, doing 130 to pass 10 cars on a stretch of highway is another.

Riding on the street, if your breaking the law, your breaking the law. Just take it easy, enjoy your bike and this wonderfull state we have to ride in. And if you really want to wring its neck, come on down and do it with us at PMP.

But like stated above, if your caught, your caught. Just stop as soon as its safe, be curtious and for godsakes, wear all your gear all the time. Tickets suck, but being dead or seriously Effed' up sucks worse.

[ghostrider_9]

They are people just like we are. They are doing their job. Treat them with the same amount of respect that you would want to receive. If you are guilty of something, don't get all butt hurt and have an attitude when you get busted for it. If you don't want to get busted, stay within the limits of the law. If not, you have no one to blame but yourself.

[RC51BUZZ]

+1 :imwithstupid:

[Mac020]

Yes Sir! No Sir! "I was prolly wrong and ya gotta do ur job." U DA MAN SIR! I promise not to do it again!(at least for a little while)!

Sometimes ya win. Sometime ya lose!

It also helps to pick your spot!

[07GixRsix]

Simple as be respectful, honest and take it like a man for messing up lol...... and please don't run from the cops, even if you think you have a bike that can outrun flash. Running from the law is just plain lack of brain cells.

[Sully]

Show boobies ?? :boobies: :dunno:

[RyNo24]

Show boobies ?? :boobies: :dunno:

Do man boobs work?

Actually my girl got off from a ticket with those...she was wearing her low v-neck PJ top when she got pulled over once, and he let her go.

[Wickid@$$Clown]

LOL... In Chicago a few years back, I told an officer that a Grey ford escort full of kids waved a gun at me, so I took off trying to leave them behind. and then I told him as I was pulling over, they went by... He left me and went to chase this "grey ford escort".... lolololol...

[RyNo24]

LOL... In Chicago a few years back, I told an officer that a Grey ford escort full of kids waved a gun at me, so I took off trying to leave them behind. and then I told him as I was pulling over, they went by... He left me and went to chase this "grey ford escort".... lolololol...

Lol, I don't think that will work here in the the burbs. I can see it working in Chi-Town.

[ghostrider_9]

Show boobies ?? :boobies: :dunno:

If I did that the cop would likely shoot me.

[Mr_RC]

I got pulled over yesterday for speeding. The officer asked to see my license and proceeded to tell me to "slow it down." I was dumbfounded. I thought all cops were arrogant, righteous, assholes. This guy was just like you and me. Who knew?

[salsashark]

everything you need to know about dealing with the police...

Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQriSWN6JQc)

Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8)

[Sully]

Lol, I don't think that will work here in the the burbs. I can see it working in Chi-Town.

:shocked: Seriously here dude.. the preppy white kids that live in the burbs are the ones you have to F'N worry about ! Little Fookers !

[sandboxshooter]

EVERY cop does an attitude check once you're pulled over.....have the correct respectful attitude, and lots of times, a break will be considered.....

[Stuart Little]

I got pulled over yesterday for speeding. The officer asked to see my license and proceeded to tell me to "slow it down." I was dumbfounded. I thought all cops were arrogant, righteous, assholes. This guy was just like you and me. Who knew?

OOh OOH Pick me, I did :)

In all honesty most cops are cool people, I may be one some day (Right now lookin at federal but I do like CO so I may stay) and I don't plan on being a dick, but being that job that it is I'm not suprised to see LEO's hardened by the job and the redundancy of seeing someone drive a 2 ton SUV while drinking coffee, adjusting the radio while talking on their cell phone and swerving in the lane and nearly hitting a moto then asking why they are getting pulled over!

[JimmySprinkle]

You never know what kind of cop you're going to get when you get pulled over. The same polite routine affects officers differently.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes not. I haven't been on the best of luck with Douglas County lately:(.

[MRA 927]

I have been pulled over several times by cops. Most of these times a person with a cell phone called in a crotch rocket cutting people off in traffic or riding wheelies. My bike is red and I have a black jacket. (I just described about 50% of all motorcycles on the road). I do play but only on back country roads with NO traffic and not in town or on the highways, so I had a big attitude with the officers that pulled me over and of course these incidents the officer didn't witness and once I got my point across I went about my business. Most officers want to ask twenty questions and I stop them rightaway and ask them twenty questions right back. I do not like macho cops! DO NOT admit to anything, because officers usually don't write down your statements right and these can be used against you. It is always best to not say a word, just hand them your paperwork.

Remember cops deal with people all day long and they are trained to ask the right questions and to get as much incriminating evidence as possible. Be smart, this is america and you are innocent until proven guilty.In my examples above: cops do make mistakes by pulling the wrong person over.

[Oldgreen]

Okay, this has been eating at me for a long time. I am older, I am a retired Fed, I am a disabled veteran from the '70's. I say all that so you know I am average looking older guy who doesn't have a 'tude. I was taught to respect and trust police.
Have you seen the video of the Iraq vet in CA getting shot while on his ass and begging for his life because he was a PASSENGER in a speeding car....six or more cops kicking and hitting a SUSPECT in PA....5 people in Greeley involved in a MURDER, the only one that wasn't a cop or working for the PD was the victim! I have been pulled over for 10 mph over the speed limit while passing and both times the cop screamed at me before I even said anything, I didn't run, pulled over at once, had ALL my paperwork. I rarely speed, even on the Ninja. The so-called investigation these LEO's did was horrible and they treated me with contempt and poor manners. Once my wife and kids were in the car and the CSP made rude comments about THEM. My kids were 10 and 8 at the time. How do I explain that? Now, whenever I see a cop I either pull over and wait for them to clear the area or slow WAY down, just in case. I am contemplating if I ever get pulled over again, I will call 911 for backup before I get shot or beaten! FWIW, all the Larimer Sherif Deputies I have met were awesome and professional. The CSP is horrible, condesending, not willing to listen, arguementative and rude, they scare me!

[JimmySprinkle]

I'm sorry to hear that... sounds like those cops were the the wimpy kids in school who became officers of the law for the power of authority. Try bringing a tape recorder with you. It might make for some intersting evidence when you contest in court :lol:.

[thatmofo]

everything you need to know about dealing with the police...

Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQriSWN6JQc)

Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8)

Amen brotha! That's everything you need to know!

[Bebop]

Recently I was pulled over twice by the police both times by the CSP. The first was up near Aspen, the cop had thought that we had run a red light because the light on his side had turned. He was nice to us and asked us if we had in fact run a red light, of course we said no because we didn't he believed us and gave us a written warning, which I still think is crap but hey its better than a ticket, we even BSed with him for a little while. The second time I was coming home from work getting onto I-76 from Wads and the cop pulled me over for speeding but he couldn't clock me so he didn’t give me a ticket. I was wearing my leather but no helmet (long rides I wear helmets, to work and back I normally don't setting in traffic gets to hot with a full face helmet on). He was nice just saying to slow down, that he wants me to get to my destination safely.

I would say from my experience that if you pull over right away, turn off your bike keeping your hands on the handle bars or tank, be courteous and answer questions truthfully then most of the time the cops seem to be nice back. This can very of course.

[SamuraiX]

Last time I was pulled over, the cop spent the whole time telling me how he wanted to get himself a bike, and he just kept checking it out, glad it was clean!

By the time it was all said and done, I was telling HIM to make sure and take a safety course! Real Jedi mind control shit...

HE GOT WEEED!

[Devaclis]

Cops are people doing a job. They pull you over when you do something illegal. Don't get caught doing anything illegal. If you do, man up and except it. Don't be a little bitch and try to convince them they do not know the laws.

/thread

[SamuraiX]

Cops are people doing a job. They pull you over when you do something illegal. Don't get caught doing anything illegal. If you do, man up and except it. Don't be a little bitch and try to convince them they do not know the laws.

/thread

They are people just like we are. They are doing their job. Treat them with the same amount of respect that you would want to receive. If you are guilty of something, don't get all butt hurt and have an attitude when you get busted for it. If you don't want to get busted, stay within the limits of the law. If not, you have no one to blame but yourself.

We heard that already...

[Devaclis]

Yeah, no shit. We also have this same exact thread 5 times a summer.

Repeat
Repeat
Repeat
Repeat

[SamuraiX]

Yet you read AND posted in them all im sure. Telling everyone to politely bend over for Johnny law when he shows up with his badge...

Not all of us are turned on by a man in uniform. :slappers:

[Sortarican]

In honor of George Carlin:
"If you ever get pulled over by the police, be sure to tell them 'I pay your salary'. They like that, it gives them a chance to thank you."

"Any time is Miller time? Oh yeah, how about traffic court?"
[Judge] "You where ticketed for weaving in traffic Mr. Carlin. How do you plead?"
[Carlin] {cracking open a can of beer} "Weaving?! Shit your Honor....I can't even knit."

[Oyama]

Some cops you can be as polite as possible and theyll still stick you with a ticket...

[Stuart Little]

Yeah, that'll happen when ya break the law

[Oldgreen]

There is NO reason to yell at people. They is NO reason to make comments about 8 and 10 year old girls. There is NO reason to threaten a citizen or try to intimidate one. There is very little reason to shoot people in a defensive postition or gang up and whip ass on people........all the above assumes a standard traffic stop of a person cooperating and having their paperwork....yes they have a job to do, so they better do it right.....in my job if I was wrong people (lots of them potentially) died, just like doctors, nurses, firemen, pilots and many more. There is many times NO excuse, and after many years of respect for LE, it is slowly slipping away courtesy of the bad apples. Zero tolerance doesn't work!

[sag]

take your helmet and gloves off? i got pulled over in a group and a few of the riders left their helmets on the whole time and it seemed disrespectful to me.

[ihavealegohead]

Honesty, attitude help alot. Make sure you have your paperwork (Reg, Ins, license) up to date and ready. HAVE A MOTORCYCLE ENDORSEMENT on your license. Stop immediatly. Coppers get irritated when they have to haul ass to catch someone, that puts them and other folks in danger. Wear proper gear. If you really don't think your in the wrong, don't argue or run your mouth, take it to court. I can tell you that with some agencies there are mandates for tickets, some not. So there is no one trick or word play that will work with all LEO's.

If your being dumb, your being dumb. However, if you are just riding "Offensively" in the interest of not becoming soccer mom (No offense to moms, I use that as an anology) SUV driving fodder, and you can articulate that, you may have more ground to stand on. But most LEO's I know don't ride, and don't understand what it is to keep alive in todays world of people paying absolutly no attention to what they are doing while piloting a 4000 lb. missle down the road. I do, and I take that into consideration, within reason. A short burst of speed with a quick lane change to get out of a wolfpack of cars is one thing, doing 130 to pass 10 cars on a stretch of highway is another.

Riding on the street, if your breaking the law, your breaking the law. Just take it easy, enjoy your bike and this wonderfull state we have to ride in. And if you really want to wring its neck, come on down and do it with us at PMP.

But like stated above, if your caught, your caught. Just stop as soon as its safe, be curtious and for godsakes, wear all your gear all the time. Tickets suck, but being dead or seriously Effed' up sucks worse.

Good post newbie -- hey can I stay at your place in the winter?

[MetaLord 9]

take your helmet and gloves off? i got pulled over in a group and a few of the riders left their helmets on the whole time and it seemed disrespectful to me.
I got pulled over. I turned the bike off took my gloves off & put my hands on the tank. When he walked up to me & started asking me questions I asked him if it would be alright if I took my helmet off. He said "oh sure!"

If you take it off I've heard there's the threat it can be used as a weapon. Just ask and they'll let you know what they'd prefer as I'm sure most cops are different.

Just be respectful and remember that if you're wrong, you're wrong. If you've got a good reason, then you might be able to state your case, but you were still wrong at some point.

[GGRR]

3 most important things:
1)Keep your hands visible
2)Never admit to anything
3)Stay calm, be respectful

[Spiderman]

long rides I wear helmets, to work and back I normally don't setting in traffic gets to hot with a full face helmet on
I hope you don't crash... sweat wipes off, road-rash/brain-damage doesn't.

[Dogsbody]

I don't buy the "never admit to anything" train of thought. I mean, you won't admit to anything you haven't done, correct? I've been pulled over 9 times in 8 years and only got one ticket and that was for a 55 in a 45 and Morrison PD brought it down to defective equipment and a $45 fine. Back to admitting what you've done, one late night I was headed back to Kittredge passing through Evergreen and I was speeding trying to get home when these headlights appeared out of nowhere, I looked down at my speedometer and saw 63mph and the speed limit was 40mph. Sheeyat... Officer asked me how fast I was going and did I know what the speed limit was I told him and he took my papers back to the cruiser, after a bit he walked back and I saw that he had his business card out. Yes! A warning! He gave me back my stuff and said "I appreceiate the fact that you didn't try to BS me, slow down okay?" The mand had me for reckless driving and he let me go. Once I was hauling the mail up Pikes Peak in my Subaru Impreza RS (full roll cage, etc) with a video camera going and got pulled over, again I was polite and admittted to what speed I was doing but I did tell the officer that I didn't see nay speed limit signs and he told me the "implied" limit was 35mph even with no signs in the mountains. He let me off with a warning and told me to keep it down to a dull roar (got it all on video). I used to joke that I'm not even going to bother to pull over becuase I know they'll let me go...

My rule of thumb is 5 over up to 50 mph then 10 over above that. If pulled over I do it as quickly as possible but I'll also wait a bit to find a safe spot to do so. I'm unfailingly polite and I answer, yes sir, no sir, no matter what. It's no guaranty that you'll get let off but it doesn't hurt to be polite.

[FZRguy]

Agreed, if you’re cool with cops, they are usually cool with you. I’ve been stopped a number of times by various departments with just a verbal or written warning.

[Spiderman]

... and don't wear an ipod.
Are you saying 'don't wear an ipod when you ride', or '(if you do) take the earbuds out & turn it off'?

[SLVRSURFR]

They are people just like we are. They are doing their job. Treat them with the same amount of respect that you would want to receive. If you are guilty of something, don't get all butt hurt and have an attitude when you get busted for it. If you don't want to get busted, stay within the limits of the law. If not, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I agree with this statement...Respect is the key, But.. Even If you're cool, they may just site you for The offense anyway. (Take it like a big boy or girl) Just good ole fashioned, random dumb luck alone will get you out of a ticket..