Good reason not to follow too closely...

[rforsythe]

You never know when those buses will bite! :shock:

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=251228b1-0abe-421a-0124-013913a0b26a&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

"A motorcycle driver was in an accident behind the bus crash. He was apparently trying to avoid the bus when he crashed.

The driver of the motorcycle was airlifted to St. Anthony's Central in Denver."

[Beotch]

Musta changed since you posted that Ralph, story now says:

A Subaru behind the bus became distracted by the accident, veered into the other lane and hit a motorcycle. The driver of the motorcycle was airlifted to St. Anthony Central Hospital with critical injuries. The Subaru driver was taken to a hospital with injuries that are not believed to be serious.

[Mother Goose]

Damn Subaru drivers! :cussing: oh wait...... :think:

[Zanos]

Before you get started.........

Let me clear everything up. As i was a part of this. And my friend and his new bike, was the victim.

There was The bus, me, then my friend north bound 119. The Suburu and the Construction truck were headed southbound.

I was behind the bus. The first thing i saw was the suburu avoiding the bus (who appears to have crossed the center line) and then i heard/saw the bus hit the construction truck.

Meanwhile, the suburu was fish tailing right at me where i accelerated to avoid the suburu which was then in our lane. Just behind me was my friend on the 06 R6.

I did not see anything after this point as it was behind me. I stopped my bike behind the bus and ran back to my friend where i saw him on the ground.

I made sure he was able to talk, breathe, etc. I made sure to tell him to leave his helmet on and stay still when he told me his ankle hurt. As he was. The suburu driver was calling paramedics. And i then ran over to the truck driver who was yelling for help. He was talking on his cell phone with his boss soon after and was walking around. I could not see in the bus not do anything about the people in it. So i didn't.

Current conditions are that 5 ppl were taken to St anthony's and 4 to Lutheran. Both drivers are in pretty bad condition, critical care or what not.

My friend broke both bones in his leg just above his ankle and broke his shoulder from hitting the fish tailing suburu.

There is nothing he could have done, all he saw was dust, slowed down, and hit the suburu.

If I can get some pictures up i will.

Please talk to me about this issue before saying anything more about how he was in the wrong. You were not there. I was. Thanks.

[Zanos]

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[rockets.redglare]

my thoughts are with the injured.

[Beotch]

Wow...I was just watching the news and realized that looked like a sport bike so I was wondering if anyone on here knew the person.
How is your friend doing Zanos? Anyone that anyone on here might know? Anything anyone can do to help? Good thing your friend was wearing helmet and jacket and such, and (from the looks of it) your friend managed to get off a good amount of speed or did well at avoiding...he is lucky to have escaped with the (relatively) minor injuries you are describing.
I think when Ralph initially read the story, the news people were faulting the bike, but by the time I read it (30 minutes later) it had been changed to show that the suby went out of control.

[Bat]

Just saw this on the news a bit ago...same thoughts as Beotch so here I am. News report was damn near unintelligible when it came to explaining what happened to the motorcyclist.

So sorry for your friend and you, please give him our best when you can and keep us posted. Just a horrible, freakish chain of events. :(

[Zanos]

News reports were horrible. And witness statements were messed up. For one, he was not in critical care, nor taken by air life. There are a lot of things that were messed up in the issues of what was where and how it happened and the location of the vehicles.

He is not on the boards and never rode with the CSC. He has been riding for 2 years or so and just got a new bike and got off his dads.

He is doing well. He will be at Lutherans for the night as they watch hmi due to a minor concussion and he will have surgery friday sometime or saterday on his shoulder and leg (just above his ankle) at St. Anthony's.

I feel really bad because we were not even going to go that way. Happened to be in the turn lane when we felt like we wanted to keep on 93. We turned and now this.

Its pretty hard for me as im not sure how he feels psychologicaly about it all. I was not even in it and im shaken up. It was a mess and as soon as i got stopped i checked as many people as i could.

I will keep you all informed and if you have any questions on what really happened that was not covered in my first reply that you hear on the news, just ask.

Thanks for the thoughts and respect.

[Kim-n-Dean]

News reports were horrible. And witness statements were messed up. For one, he was not in critical care, nor taken by air life. There are a lot of things that were messed up in the issues of what was where and how it happened and the location of the vehicles.

...and these people call themselves "professionals"?!?!

I was involved in a sort of big news story several years ago and haven't watched the news since. They miss-quoted every interview I did and just plain made shit up!! I was also on Peter Boyle's show and he didn't want to hear any details or truth. I was all laid back and every commercial break he kept telling me to "bear down, be aggressive" to the other person being interviewed. When I wouldn't fight with the other guy, the interview was over. It's all about the show!!

I did, however, turn on the news last week and it was solid murder after rape after murder after rape and a few of the stories, that I have first hand knowledge of, were completely wrong. They tell these stories like they don't even hear what they're saying. Oh, that's right, they don't!!!!

Good to see NOTHING has changed over the years!!!

[King Nothing]

the "media" is a joke.


Prayers for you and your friend, Zanos.

[Beotch]

Zanos, that is normal to react like that (to be all shaken up)...if seeing something like a head on crash doesn't shake you up, then I would say go have your head examined ;). It's all good kid, just know that you did everything you can to help, be there for your friend when he needs ya (though sounds like he will bounce back just fine), and always keep a close eye out for things when you are riding. If you want to be more prepared for such (tragic) instances in the future, go take a Red Cross class and pack yourself a small first aid kit that fits in the bike which you can use to stop bleeding and such.

[Zanos]

I wish i had a first aid kit. I am certified in first responder/first aid and CPR. Luckily CPR was not needed. He had glass in his neck. I did not want to pull it out if the glass was pinching a blood vessel or what not to cause more bleeding. If i had something i could have pulled it out and rapped his neck up i guess.

He will bounce back. It was just a freak accident where we happened to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time. Nothing we could have done to prevent it other than not have been there.

[rforsythe]

If i had something i could have pulled it out and rapped his neck up i guess.

Don't do that! If someone has debris or an object impaled in them, do not take it out. The object could very well be slowing the blood loss (it's also causing blood loss, granted) by putting its own pressure on the wound. If you pull it, especially in the neck where you don't know what it cut, you could inadvertently cause your friend to bleed out in front of you.

Let the ER pull it out, they have the necessary skill to know the ramifications, and deal with it should something really start bleeding.

Glad your friend is ok!

[~Barn~]

I think you and Zanos just said the same thing. :think:

I'm glad your buddy is gonna be alright, Aaron.

[FZRguy]

I hope your friend recovers quickly, Aaron. Keep us updated on his condition and if he needs help with anything.

[rforsythe]

I think you and Zanos just said the same thing. :think:

Sorta but not really. He had the right idea by not pulling the glass because it might cause more bleeding, but went too far with the "could have pulled the glass and wrapped his wound in something if I had it" part. Compression won't do as good of a job as just leaving it there, especially on the neck where you can't compress real hard for obvious reasons. ;) Unless whatever it is comes out on its own, leave it there and let the surgeons deal with it - even if you have something to potentially compress the wound with.

I'm definitely not knocking his course of action though. Watching someone you know get seriously injured is pretty intense, and it's hard to think clearly when your buddy is lying on the ground in pain. Zanos did the right thing all the way, especially with leaving the helmet on! :up:

[Zanos]

I will keep you all updated. Hopefully i can get him on the street when he is well. Dont want this incident to stop him from enjoying what he loves.

I totally understand Ralph. And if i had a first aid kit, i would not have pulled it out. I am just being stupid, lacking sleep, and questioning everything i did 50 times and wondering why we had to be in the location we were.

Last thing i heard from him today was that he was doing well and going into surgery today. His R6 (From another friend that rides view) is alright, just scuffed pretty bad on the left side and bent bars/levers. And something was broken crank case if i remember correctly.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Wow Aaron! Sorry to hear about your friend, and glad it wasn't worse and/or involved you also. I always cringe when I see any bike accident. Me and my buddy Frank went to come down Boulder canyon not too long ago and had to go all the way back through Lyons because the guy on a Hardley decided to kill himself and his passenger by crossing the lines into the front of a Jeep. I hope he make a full and speedy recovery!

Frank

[Suz]

Aaron I'm sorry about your friend, and hope his surgeries go smoothly for him. By the looks of the pics you posted, the CTI bus got hit pretty good too, along with the const truck. Your friend reacted the best way he could with the circumstances, and I'm glad he wasn't hurt worse than he was.

Let your friend know we're thinking of him. I've not ever taken 119 on my bike, and I don't think I ever will either. I have seen too many near misses with the buses, not to mention drunks all over the roadway.

Let us know if there's anything you or your friend needs.

[mclarke]

hope he makes a speedy recovery, coming from someone who knows what its like to be down like that. Lots of support from all of us!

[towneh]

I hope that all goes well for your bud at St. Tony's. They get a lot of customers that are in bad shape. For entertainment I'd watch LifeFlight make deliveries. They care about their patients.
Haya Henry (St Anth resident Jan 7th thru 15th, 2006)