Dragging Elbow at the Gap

[Gramps]

pretty wild picture

and no not a photoshop, just an amazing road!

[Slo]

damn!!!!!

[Yamacati Bob]

I don't know what is cooler, the race bike with an itty bitty light on the street, or the elbow on the ground....This person is ready for Moto GP:cool:

[t_jolt]

i love the shit on the street. just a little bit farther and that tire will come loose

[AshliRider44]

Gramps, why haven't we had dinner yet?? :(

[TheStig]

He is wearing my helmet...sweeet

[Vehicle 1]

When I grow up I will be able to do that too…:shocked:

[VFR]

When I grow up I will be able to do that too…:shocked:
I hope it is at a track....I have seen and heard about how the semi trucks like to round out the corners at Deals.

Can't promote pushing it like this in an uncontrolled environment

[Tipys]

doesnt look like anytrack i have seen before

[Bueller]

We got us a bunch of law abiding citizens here. :lol:
Pretty good lean angle

[Slo]

Yeah I was there about 4 years ago when a camper came through one of the turns, lucky for me, I was stuck behind him. The turns are so tight and roads so narrow that anyone with a trailer or camper will cross the lines regardless.

[Gramps]

Gramps, why haven't we had dinner yet?? :(

been super bust sweetheart how about Sunday


I'll give ya a call:)

[Gramps]

I hope it is at a track

i don't know of a track with a double yellow


totally agree with the concern....or disagreement with the limits he is pushing on the street


still impressive!

[Canuck]

At least he is within the double yellow. :)

[AshliRider44]

been super bust sweetheart how about Sunday


I'll give ya a call:)

Sunday night would work, were hitting the slopes during the day but definitely the evening!

[Lel]

from the looks of the angle... and the way the elbow is in the ground... im betting this guys is 6' 2" +!!! just a big mofo on a little bike :) haha

lel

[Brat]

nice, itd be spiffy to see some vid of him entering and exiting that corner. cool pic though.

[Gramps]

from the looks of the angle... and the way the elbow is in the ground... im betting this guys is 6' 2" +!!! just a big mofo on a little bike :) haha

lel

actually the guy may be barely six feet.

[Matrix]

Seeing pic's like this just makes me want to ride. :banghead: Nice hero shot!

[Tipys]

ya it makes me want to ride and get pics like this myself lol well not yet atleast maybe in a few years.and gramps i think your right he doesnt look like he is a big guy

[Brat]

another reason why i have to at least visit the gap once in my life. :)

[Tipys]

Is this the ultimate cornering style???? No, it is not me!!! and its not at the gap
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w68/dupdp/lean.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w68/dupdp/lean1.jpg[/

[Brat]

arent bikes great!

[Tipys]

i know right try doing that in a car i dare you

[Brat]

dont tempt me, all id have to do is take the door off, and hang loose.... it is possible.

[Tipys]

that may work damn it now you have me thinking about doing it

[Xtremjeepn]

Okay. Explain to me how everyone can think that this is "cool" and acceptable on the street, but the first time someoen lifts a front wheel then everyone jumps on them for being stupid etc etc. ????????????????

[Tipys]

hey there is nothing wroug with lifting the front wheel in my book thats just the way you ride and there is a time and place for everything

[R6-Ridin]

:cold:A little to much snow on the ground to try this one................

[Matty]

Okay. Explain to me how everyone can think that this is "cool" and acceptable on the street, but the first time someoen lifts a front wheel then everyone jumps on them for being stupid etc etc. ????????????????
which is why i didn't comment on this thread.

[McVaaahhh]

The biggest difference to me, is the friends of the guy that's draggin elbow aren't out there blocking 6 lanes of highway so he can git-r-dun.

:D :horse:



It's a cool picture, but definitely not the time or the place. I like a spirited ride myself, but I can't imagine ever dragging knee on a public road. Too many what-ifs for my blood.

[Brat]

heres a thought its a cool picture. period.
i beleive the point of his post is to show a picture he thought cool, and interesting. which it definitely is.

[Tipys]

:up:

[Mac020]

At least he's in his own lane!

[Vehicle 1]

heres a thought its a cool picture. period.
i beleive the point of his post is to show a picture he thought cool, and interesting. which it definitely is.
+1 .

[Matty]

At least he's in his own lane!
ummm... nice photoshop. lol. the cop car has no shadow.

[Matty]

heres a thought its a cool picture. period.
i beleive the point of his post is to show a picture he thought cool, and interesting. which it definitely is.
yes, it is a good pic indeed.

[VFR]

When I grow up I will be able to do that too…:shocked:


OK seems to be some mix up about my last post...lol I was saying I hope when he is able to do this that it is at a track....Not that this picture was showing a track....


LOL@U guys

[Xtremjeepn]

heres a thought its a cool picture. period.
.


I totally agree. I like the pic and want to see more cool pics.


I have just gotten the impression that if this cool picture were posted then everyone would jump on the squid, stupidity band wagon. I am just trying to understand why people see a difference?


http://www.cmyoung.com/images/jorick.jpg

[Matty]

I totally agree. I like the pic and want to see more cool pics.


I have just gotten the impression that if this cool picture were posted then everyone would jump on the squid, stupidity band wagon. I am just trying to understand why people see a difference?


http://www.cmyoung.com/images/jorick.jpg


let it go already...

[Xtremjeepn]

let it go already...


Go _______ yourself already!!!:jerkoff:

[Matty]

Go _______ yourself already!!!:jerkoff:
you serious? hello....i'm the wheelie advocate on here. i was trying to say forget about it, nobody is going to answer your question.

[dragos13]

all i have to say is, to each their own. if you like to stunt on the street, then go at it. if you like to drag a knee in the canyon, knock yourself out. if you come on a public forum looking for people to agree with you, then also expect people to disagree. honestly, i could care less what a public forum thinks, just do what you like to do. when you end up injured or dead, dont come to a public forum looking for help. anyone who stunts or races on the street is aware of whats possible, wether they ignore it or not. wheelies or knee dragging=possiblity of something going wrong.

back on topic, +1 for what Jason said. they guy looks huge on a little bike. plus im starting to think those yellow stripes aren't even real. they look printed way too close together for a standard street. thats just my opinion.

[VFR]

Words are misunderstood more here than anywhere else I post....lol

[Jayock]

Both elbow dragging pics look like the rider is trying really hard to drag elbow. There are a few top level racers that drag elbows, but most choose not to, even though they are leaning further than either of those guys (especially the one on the kawi)

[mra828]

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=157519

Story and uncropped photo - including rider weighing in on Page 2 & 3.

Cool pic - staged (but real) according to the rider.

[Xtremjeepn]

you serious? hello....i'm the wheelie advocate on here. i was trying to say forget about it, nobody is going to answer your question.


Sorry man. Did not come across that way. :oops::siesta:

[pilot]

Both elbow dragging pics look like the rider is trying really hard to drag elbow. There are a few top level racers that drag elbows, but most choose not to, even though they are leaning further than either of those guys (especially the one on the kawi)What's next? Helmet pucks? Ha.

[Xtremjeepn]

What's next? Helmet pucks? Ha.

This guy is pretty close!!

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/VAS/0000-5105-4~BMW-Side-Car-Motorcycle-Posters.jpg

[Vehicle 1]

There are a few top level racers that drag elbows, but most choose not to
Just out of curiosity, If a certain racer does choose to, why would he/she drag an elbow? more support in case things go wrong? better feeling when combined with the knee? or what you guys think… I don’t even wear my knee sliders on the street, so I couldn’t tell ya.

[pilot]

As technology increases I'm going to bet over time that the motorcycle will become more and more one with the rider. Lighter weight and better power out of smaller engines, including electric, will someday make the bike more of a body suit. Articulated three wheeled motorcycles are heading in this direction. But I stagger from the point.

Elbow pucks? Well, the more the body acts like an outrigger to the bike's centerline, the less the bike has to lean to go through the turn at a given speed.

Yesteryear's totally straight up and down style of racing became yesterday's street style. Today street riders are starting to lean inside the C/L of their bike while track stars are getting closer to buying Rossi's latest set of replica race suits (elbow pucks included). Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

As for myself, if I'm stopped by a law enforcement officer for "leaning" into a turn. Well, we can have a chat over a cup of coffee about the how and why, not just the what.

[konichd]

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=157519

Story and uncropped photo - including rider weighing in on Page 2 & 3.

Cool pic - staged (but real) according to the rider.

All those guys are just jealous :lol:

[Brat]

http://www.cmyoung.com/images/jorick.jpg
ahhh a suzuki tl1000r! sweet. gotta love the bike i ride showin off.

i think some threads should be free of complaining. as this is a picture forum, "picture" forum to show pics. simply show pics. and what we all love bikes and riding. everyone ride their ride, keep the shiny side up and the wind in your helmet and ride. :)
Brat

[Mac020]

ummm... nice photoshop. lol. the cop car has no shadow.


I think the first one may also be a photochop. Who knows???:dunno:

Speaking about size. I'm 6'5" 220 pounds and ride a 996s Ducati. My wife says I look like I'm trying to climb over the windscreen. I often wonder what it would be like if I was around 150 and able to drag a knee/elbow like that.

[Gramps]

I think the first one may also be a photochop. Who knows???:dunno:

I don't have any proof that it's not, but I highly doubt it.


The road would be conducive to such a lean angle. A person would just have to have the guts/stupidity(according to your point of view) to do it.

[LQ3]

wonder what tires he is on.

[Bueller]

wonder what tires he is on.
Looks like slicks anyway

[Tipys]

ya need some good tires to be doing that

[BeoBe]

yes i would love to ride deals gap aka tail of the dragon.. but from what i hear the cops are laying down so hardcore its not really much fun anymore.. the place has 318 curves in 11 mile stretch.. for those that dont know its in NC/TN

www.grahamcountytravel.com (http://www.grahamcountytravel.com) you can even rent bikes to ride if you take the trip.. pretty sweet

there is 1 video of 3 guys tearing the gap up on pocket rockets and they are straight laying down the curves.. pretty sick but they almost get smoked a couple times it looks like. if you haven't seen it ill try and find the link.

[daemon]

you're too slow bobby!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEj7-JHW3-8

[Player 2]

yes i would love to ride deals gap aka tail of the dragon.. but from what i hear the cops are laying down so hardcore its not really much fun anymore.. the place has 318 curves in 11 mile stretch.. for those that dont know its in NC/TN
Man I'm glad we take a week long trip out there every year :hump:

http://rankeddomains.com/images/JonKillboy07.jpg

[Ghost]

Yeah I was there about 4 years ago when a camper came through one of the turns, lucky for me, I was stuck behind him. The turns are so tight and roads so narrow that anyone with a trailer or camper will cross the lines regardless.

Last time my friends and I rode the Gap there was a Mustang club playing drift-hero and stepping their asses across the yellows a number of times. Glad we were behind instead of coming at them.

Logging trucks and RVs do use the road, so expect them to wander (at least partially) into your lane. Stick to the trees-of-death side and avoid encroaching the line.

My biggest Oh Shit moment was a long time ago when I lived in Alabama and me & friend's would ride up to the gap on long weekends:
I was lead bike on my 92 CBR600F2 Super Sport (Red & White), running a decent pace when I came around a tight corner and had a semi facing me in my lane.
:shocked:

Oncoming traffic kept me from dodging into the other lane (I assumed the rig must be passing across double yellows). I nearly ishted my leathers and waited for the splat...peeking one eye open, I realized it was being towed!! So, no splat, just a major heart attack and soiled leathers. :lol:

Haven't been to the Gap since 01, it's getting too popular, too much traffic, and isn't what it was 10+yrs ago. Still a great road, but IMHO, not what it was before popularity and traffic have taken their toll.

[Player 2]

Haven't been to the Gap since 01, it's getting too popular, too much traffic, and isn't what it was 10+yrs ago. Still a great road, but IMHO, not what it was before popularity and traffic have taken their toll.
That's why you have to pick the right time of year to go :up:

Definitely gets scary though when traffic starts picking up

[Matty]

Deals Gap is 318 curves in 11 miles. Whoopty doo.

Go to SoCal and Ride Up Highway 2 AKA Angeles Crest Highway. It's 66 miles long of all twisty's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLf2bjsXNBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGJXKUtFTs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y-EvGrP63s&feature=related

or 4 wheel fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xs2icxz-6o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc06lHpPx_A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrdjpn5akM&feature=related

[Brat]

sweet

[PsychoMike]

i used to ride angles crest like everyweekend. god that was goodf

[Gramps]

Deals Gap is 318 curves in 11 miles. Whoopty doo.

By your comment I am assuming you have never actually been to the gap to make an educated comparison:dunno:

It is a place that has become crowded at times. I guess it's like any other destination place you need to know where to go and when.

[Matty]

By your comment I am assuming you have never actually been to the gap to make an educated comparison:dunno:

no i haven't had a chance to ride there yet. have seen videos and have friends that have had a chance to visit the road. someday soon. just think there are plenty of other rodes that are equal if not better.

[dirkterrell]

It is a place that has become crowded at times. I guess it's like any other destination place you need to know where to go and when.

I had the good fortune to ride it a few times in the mid-80s before everyone found out about it. It's amazing what it's turned into. There are several other roads of similar style in western NC. I used to have a blast riding there on my 500 Interceptor.

Dirk

[N1KSS1KS1x]

I have to knock this off my to do's sometime soon.

[pilot]

We're looking at starting a class there in 2008.

[Gramps]

no i haven't had a chance to ride there yet. have seen videos and have friends that have had a chance to visit the road. someday soon. just think there are plenty of other rodes that are equal if not better.

I don't think I've seen a video of the gap that does the road any kind of justice. I've even made a few. It's really hard to say you know anything about any situation through a video, or secound hand info. It's like watching a video of a vacation instead of actually going on vacation. Not the same at all.


There has been a lot of discussion, on here and other places about there being roads of equal or better quality. I have seen arguments in both directions. I have not ridden a lot of the roads that are mentioned within these discussions so I try to stay neutral. What I see most of the discussions expire with is, the agreement that the tail is a great road that you have to pick your time to ride. If you take into account the rest of the roads in the area, Blood Mtn., the Hellbender, Cherohala Skyway, and The Loop, to name a few, it is hard to find the quality and quantity of curves in any other area in the country.
:)

[Gramps]

We're looking at starting a class there in 2008.


I hope you are labeling it as an expert only class. :shocked: It's not a place for beginners!

[pilot]

We suggest that the class, Total Control, is for "experienced" riders only. Most of our clients are BMW riders with over 15 years of riding experience. Some members of the CSC have taken the class and or attended the seminar. They may attest to the training technology we use. One step at a time and safety is paramount.

[Matty]

Fuck it, let's just go to Romania.....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/housegroover/romania.jpg

[BeoBe]

damn id love to rip up that road!

[Slo]

Hahaha Matty, you are the man!!!! I have had that pic for a while and never knew where it was from. Thanks for answering my 3+ year search, too bad I will probably never get a chance to ride it though :(

+1 on Angelest Crest Highway, I used to alternate riding between there and Mullholland (on the way to the beach) every weekend. Mullholand = slow tight knee draggers, Angeles Crest Highway = 120+ sweepers.

In 97-98 while I was there, that spot where the first video you posted up, that was just a turn past where the residential houses ended at the bottom, if you were coming from the 210 freeway. I remember the first time I went up there and saw the search and rescue vehicles among law enforcement vehilcles and personel stand on the side of the road waving at us as we went past them at a very spirited pace.

As far as The Gap goes, it's just one of those places you have to go just to say you have ridden it. The tree of shame is a sight as well. But the best part was on the way up and leaving.....all the crazy nice roads surrounding it. Hell, even the highways, oh man, Imagine 285 on a much larger scale!!!!

[Matty]

Mullholand = slow tight knee draggers, Angeles Crest Highway = 120+ sweepers.


Then again i'd rather do loops of starting at PCH going up Latigo Canyon to Mulholland down to the Rockstore turn around and go back.

Fun. Fun. Fun.