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Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 12:44 PM
My god this woman is a twit. :roll:


........[sic]the vice president is "in charge of the U.S. Senate" ---- Sarah Palin

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/oct/22/sarahpalin-congress

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 12:57 PM
DUH!
Anyone who's bothered to read the constitution and watch Futurama knows that the V.P.'s job is to
cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate AND protect the space-time continuum.

Read the Constitution people!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Al_Gore_on_Futurama.png

JustSomeDude
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 12:58 PM
My god this woman is a twit. :roll:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/oct/22/sarahpalin-congress


And Obama visited 57 states on his campaign.

It's October 22nd... you aren't changing anyone's mind at this point. I have my opinions and you have yours. We'll all vote on the 4th, and move on. It's what we do, we're Americans.

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:00 PM
.... We'll all forget to vote on the 4th, then complain about whoever get's elected. We're Americans, it's what we do.

^^^Fixed it for ya.

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:02 PM
And Obama visited 57 states on his campaign.

It's October 22nd... you aren't changing anyone's mind at this point. I have my opinions and you have yours. We'll all vote on the 4th, and move on. It's what we do, we're Americans.

This, in no way, should be construed as an attempt to change your opinion. I couldn't care less about your opinion.

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:05 PM
..... I couldn't care less about your opinion.

^^^Really did fix it for ya there Jeff.
(Sorry, that phrase is one of my grammatic pet peeves.)

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:06 PM
^^^Really did fix it for ya there Jeff.
(Sorry, that phrase is one of my grammatic pet peeves.)

I graduated with Sarah at the bottom of her class. :D

rybo
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:08 PM
^^^Really did fix it for ya there Jeff.
(Sorry, that phrase is one of my grammatical pet peeves.)

and I fixed that one for you

(btw, last crash was in second gear on a TZ125. As hard as it is to believe I managed to highside the thing out of turn three at PPIR. Highsiding the little bike isn't anything like the big bike. It's more like being attached to the end of a flyswatter.)

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:11 PM
(btw, last crash was in second gear on a TZ125. As hard as it is to believe I managed to highside the thing out of turn three at PPIR. Highsiding the little bike isn't anything like the big bike. It's more like being attached to the end of a flyswatter.)


HOLYJOHNNNYF&CKINGROCKPAGECROSSTHREADJACKINGPOSTWHOREBATMAN!

dm_gsxr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:18 PM
Actually I'm voting today, assuming I can get out of work on time.

Carl

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:34 PM
Actually I'm voting today, assuming I can get out of work on time.

Carl

I already did. Now to draw up the reprisal list.

ChrisCBX
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:44 PM
Actually I'm voting today, assuming I can get out of work on time.

Carl

I've already voted a couple of dozen times in my home state of Ohio.

Snowman
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 01:54 PM
Voted and done....

dirkterrell
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:15 PM
Biden:


Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn’t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that’s the Executive Branch.
Looks like Joe needs to do a little reading of the constitution as well. :)

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:18 PM
Biden:
Looks like Joe needs to do a little reading of the constitution as well. :)

Yeah --- but at least he can negotiate the Dewy Decimal System to get to the information unlike the Hockey Mom.

Captain Obvious
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:43 PM
Yeah --- but at least he can negotiate the Dewy Decimal System to get to the information unlike the Hockey Mom.


BWAHAHAHA. Yeah, so. The dewey decimal system is about as outdated as making fire with a couple of sticks. Sure, once in a blue moon you might need it, but really...

Thank god the days of spending hours in a library for research papers are gone. i still go there to surf for porn on someone else ISP though.

Captain Obvious
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:45 PM
Yeah --- but at least he can negotiate the Dewy Decimal System to get to the information unlike the Hockey Mom.

And haven't you been listening? She gets all of her worldwide knowledge from all the books she reads. That she is given to read. Oh, and from apparently ALL the newspapers and magazines, she did imply she reads all of them.

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:48 PM
....She gets all of her worldwide knowledge from all the books she reads. That she is given to read. Oh, and from apparently ALL the newspapers and magazines, she did imply she reads all of them...

Wait-wait.....you mean she can read?!?!?!:crazy:

JustSomeDude
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:52 PM
Yeah --- but at least he can negotiate the Dewy Decimal System to get to the information unlike the Hockey Mom.

Did he research info on the 58th state for Obama?

PS: The mass media pressure to influence polls finally falters:

AP Poll All Tied: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VM4PO0&show_article=1 (shows massive McCain gains in internals)
IBD/Tipp within 2.3: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309546869309178 (also shows massive McCain gains)...


Contrary to other polls, some of which show Obama ahead by double digits, the IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama's lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He's also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he's gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead. Obama padded gains in urban areas and with lower-class households, but he slipped 4 points with parents.

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 02:53 PM
Did he research info on the 58th state for Obama?

PS: The mass media pressure to influence polls finally falters:

AP Poll All Tied: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VM4PO0&show_article=1 (shows massive McCain gains in internals)
IBD/Tipp within 2.3: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309546869309178 (also shows massive McCain gains)...

Massive huh? I doubt that.

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:02 PM
Bash all you want . We will see what the outcome is November 5th.

Anyone who does not vote should get a kick in the nuts.

Bueller
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:02 PM
This, in no way, should be construed as an attempt to change your opinion. I couldn't care less about your opinion.
:headbang:


God help us if she ever becomes the commander and chief, oh wait there is no god so we would be royally FUCKED!

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:05 PM
:headbang:


God help us if she ever becomes the commander and chief, oh wait there is no god so we would be royally FUCKED!


WTF guys.

A fucking CAT TURD is smarter than the ASSHOLE in office right now.

AND HE WAS REELECTED!

JustSomeDude
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:07 PM
Massive huh? I doubt that.

18-points in suburban areas isn't massive? Put down the kool-aid.

:crazy:

Some more for you to consider once the kool-aid wears off...


_Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.
_Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.
_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.
_Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.
_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.
_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:07 PM
:headbang:


God help us if she ever becomes the commander and chief, oh wait there is no god so we would be royally FUCKED!

Can you imagine Sarah and hubby Turd cruising around in Air-force One making 'presidential' decisions? What a fuckin' joke.

JustSomeDude
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:12 PM
Can you imagine Sarah and hubby Turd cruising around in Air-force One making 'presidential' decisions? What a fuckin' joke.

Don't be mad.

:yumyum:

64BonnieLass
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:12 PM
We will see what the outcome is November 5th.

I'm gonna blow up my TV and all the stereos. I don't even wanna know :banghead: Don't text me about it either. I'm going to vote, but I'm not going to like it. :cry:

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:13 PM
Don't be mad.

:yumyum:

I don't get mad, I get even.

JustSomeDude
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:14 PM
I don't get mad, I get even.

:shocked:

Sortarican
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:16 PM
_Surged among rural (Hillbilly) voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.
_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. (GED's 4 Jon!)
_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead. (The real idiots)
_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points...(See, the smart guys are still for Barack)

WOW, he really owns the American intellectual vote.

Most of those stats are a lot like when the baseball announcers says:
"He led all National League left handers of Dominican descent in 7th inning 3rd pitch tip fouls during the second half of the month of September"

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:17 PM
:shocked:

http://www.paladin-press.com/images/popup/RE.jpg

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:17 PM
I don't get mad, I get even.


???? But your just ODD :slappers:

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:18 PM
???? But your just ODD :slappers:

You have no idea ..........

http://www.paladin-press.com/images/popup/BYTE.jpg

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:20 PM
Hippies are SO scary

Shea
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
Hippies are SO scary

And they smell funny.

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:24 PM
We try ---- but we really don't give a shit.

http://www.paladin-press.com/images/popup/SCREW.jpg

Shea
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:26 PM
If you don't "give a shit", why the need for revenge?

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:28 PM
Revenge for Hire???

ever see "Dirty Work"?
http://www.independentcritics.com/images/dirtyworkSPLASH.jpg

Mother Goose
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM
I graduated with Sarah at the bottom of her class. :D
Along w/ McCain. :lol:

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM
If you don't "give a shit", why the need for revenge?

Because it's cool?

Shea
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:44 PM
Because it's cool?

Not enough attention as a kid I take it?

Nick_Ninja
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:45 PM
Not enough attention as a kid I take it?

You got that right Dr. Phil

puckstr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:47 PM
Well can we agree on this Day as being a cause for celebration?
http://www.bushslastday.com/images/01-20-09tmfull.gif


Bush's Last Day

GTFO Day

Shea
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM
Gitfo Day. Seems somewhat ironical

dm_gsxr
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 05:32 PM
Voted. No lines by the way for the folks who are putting it off. Piece of cake :)

Carl

Bueller
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 05:59 PM
Can you imagine Sarah and hubby Turd cruising around in Air-force One making 'presidential' decisions? What a fuckin' joke.
Oh my fucking god, let's go SHOPPING!!! [/Palin]

macktastic brake grabber
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 06:11 PM
just popped in to see what is shakin. great to see nothing has changed around this club!
just my humble opinion, but it really doesn't matter who wins this one. we are just f**cked either way. we have around 545 people running this country of about 300 million and they are f*8cking it up more as time goes on. God help us all.
mack

DanFZ1
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 06:32 PM
And Obama visited 57 states on his campaign.

Quickly enough, based on the (spurious) rumor (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp) that Senator Obama is a Muslim, someone came up with the fanciful idea that his mention of "fifty-seven states" was a reference to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC (http://www.oic-oci.org/oicnew/member_states.asp)), which has 57 member (http://www.oic-un.org/about/members.htm) states. (Actually, the OIC encompasses 60 countries altogether: 57 member states and 3 observer states.)

The actual intent behind Senator Obama's misstatement is easy to discern without the need to invoke an obscure international organization. He was trying to express the thought that in all the time he had spent on the campaign trail so far in 2007-08, he had visited all ( 48 ) of the states in the continental U.S. save for one (i.e., "one left to go," excluding Alaska and Hawaii), but in his weariness he slipped up and started off with "fifty" instead of "forty." (Note the long pause in the video clip between the words "fifty" and "seven.")

As for the next obvious question, depending upon the definitional criteria used, there are more or less than 57 Islamic countries/nations/states in the world. If an Islamic state is defined to mean any country in which a majority of the indigenous population is Muslim, then the total number of Islamic states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries) is actually a little lower (about 52). All such numbers are estimates, however, and are subject to additional definitional criteria. "

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

57 states "...is easy to discern" according to that leftist leaning hot bed of pinko commie liberalism www.snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com). ...but apparently not so easy to discern for others...

DanFZ1
Wed Oct 22nd, 2008, 07:27 PM
My god this woman is a twit. :roll:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/oct/22/sarahpalin-congress

Join the crowd, but be forewarned, these are not the left-wing liberal media leftists that we have been warned about:

Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy (Wed Sep 3):
Noonan and Murphy get caught on an open mic griping about the choice of Sarah Palin. Noonan says "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullsh** about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it." Murphy adds that the choice was "cynical" and "gimmicky."

Kathleen Parker (Fri Sep 26):
Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker wrote in the National Review that Sarah Palin is "out of her league" and should step down for the good of her country.

David Brooks (Wed Oct 8 ):
David Brooks rips apart McCain's pick for VP, saying "Sarah Palin represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party."

Perry Diaz (Wed Oct 8 ):
Perry Diaz, chairman of the National Federation of Filipino-American Republicans, resigned from his post and withdrew his endorsement, saying "I endorsed McCain before the California primary believing that he was the right man for the job. I was wrong. His selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate and his decision a few days ago to resort to personal attacks on Obama's character and integrity run counter to my personal beliefs and core values. I have lost my respect for McCain and I believe that a McCain/Palin administration would only worsen the economic situation in the country."

(When was the last time anybody withdrew a "same-party" endorsment?)

Joshua Trevino, co-founder of RedState.com, wrote on his blog: "In the end, I couldn't do it...I opened it fully intending to vote for John McCain...Do I believe in John McCain? Not as much as I used to. Do I believe in Sarah Palin? Despite my early enthusiasm for her, now not at all. Do I believe in the national Republican Party? Not in the slightest -- even though I see no meaningful alternative to it. So, my choice for President in 2008, scrawled in my ballot as an act of futile protest, is Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana."

Heather Mac Donald (Tue Oct 14):
Conservative pundit Heather Mac Donald systematically disassembles McCain's VP pick and concludes that "conservatives should not sacrifice standards for political advantage."

Rush Limbaugh (Tue Oct 14):
Rush Limbaugh all but accepted the fact that John McCain had lost this election, asking Sarah Palin "have you even thought about a political future beyond this campaign?" Obviously, if Limbaugh thought McCain could win...her political future would be as Vice President.


This is just a sample of what the right-wing conservative media types have to say about Sarah.

JustSomeDude
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 04:56 PM
2nd poll in two days showing a 1-point difference and gains for McCain...

IBD/TIPP, which was 4 points yesterday now shows a 1-point game, which correlates with the 1-point AP poll released yesterday:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536

For those who may forget, IBD/TIPP was the "most accurate" polling outfit of the 2004 Bush/Kerry election with respect to polls compared to final voter results. 12% still undecided tho? Who ARE those people?!

MattTLS
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 06:44 PM
From Article I., Section 3 of the Constitution:

"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."

From Michael Tomasky's blog to which you link, show me where the Constitution states that "the vice-president actually presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions."


I don't see it.


My god this woman is a twit. :roll:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/oct/22/sarahpalin-congress

DanFZ1
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 07:10 PM
For those who may forget, IBD/TIPP was the "most accurate" polling outfit of the 2004 Bush/Kerry election with respect to polls compared to final voter results. 12% still undecided tho? Who ARE those people?!

They are probably either 1.) people who are not going to actually vote, even if they did vote in the primaries or 2.) Swing voters or 3.) Splinter Groups who won't say because of the right to cast a private ballot. :-)

I can't believe that there is anybody left sitting on the fence. There probably hasn't been since the conventions.

MattTLS
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 07:14 PM
Maybe you should read a bit from the U.S. Senate's website about the history of the VP. The role of the VP has been all over the place -- from mostly legislative duties to mostly executive duties to mostly doing nothing at all. Some have practiced a 'ceremonial' role, whereas others have done much more. Unfortunately, the role of the VP was simply not well-defined in the Constitution.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Vice_President.htm

JustSomeDude
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 07:36 PM
They are probably either 1.) people who are not going to actually vote, even if they did vote in the primaries or 2.) Swing voters or 3.) Splinter Groups who won't say because of the right to cast a private ballot. :-)

I can't believe that there is anybody left sitting on the fence. There probably hasn't been since the conventions.

Damn... I think things are just getting interesting. George Washington University poll now also showing a dead heat... with new poll in PA now showing Murtha down by THIRTEEN (13) after his "western PA is full of racists" comments.


A Pennsylvania source has just leaked me brand spanking new poll data showing GOP upstart Bill Russell leading John Murtha among over 800 probable voters by 48-35.

This comes on top of the Susquehanna poll showing Murtha ahead of Russell by 4 points (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/poll-murthas-lead-down-to-four-within-the-margin-of-error/), within the margin of error.

The new poll is from Dane and Associates, which surveyed over 800 probable voters, randomly selected to reflect the district makeup, on Wednesday night.

I wonder what kind of dirty voicemails Obama is leaving on Murtha's phone. What a nard... he may have single-handedly just blown PA for Obama (not that I'd mind).

If Murtha's smack talk spills over into neighboring Ohio as well... we got ourselves a race fellas!


The (Murtha) poll comes as internal polling leaked from the Obama camp showed the Democratic candidate only 2 points ahead of McCain in the Keystone State, suggesting the race is much closer than the Quinnipiac poll out Thursday that shows Obama with a 13-point lead in the state.

Nick_Ninja
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 08:58 PM
From Article I., Section 3 of the Constitution:

"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."

From Michael Tomasky's blog to which you link, show me where the Constitution states that "the vice-president actually presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions."


I don't see it.

It's the Britt viewpoint. Bottom line --- the bitch needs to take a civics class.

JustSomeDude
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:03 PM
It's the Britt viewpoint. Bottom line --- the bitch needs to take a civics class.

And the rube needs to take a geography class, for 57 States the United States does not have, "with one left to go".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

We can do this all day long... it's a pointless argument... as they all make idiots out of themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8

DanFZ1
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:08 PM
Damn... I think things are just getting interesting ... we got ourselves a race fellas!

Hope springs eternal. :)

I need to look at the political futures markets. It's always interesting to note the difference between Intrade and Betfair.

http://www.intrade.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

^^^O.K. I'm back^^^

I understand that people in opinion polls will 1.) Tell people what they hope will happen and 2.) What they think people want to hear when others are listening.

Compare that to Political futures markets were people don't care about anything except making money. To do that, they have to be right. There's no sense in placing a bad bet, you'd lose money. So, they bet on what they think the reality of situation really is.

Still, if you google "political futures markets" and check out the contracts for McCain and Obama, the electoral vote doesn't even begin to make sense to me. Not to mention the opportunity for Arbitrage due to the differences in the "point spread". Granted, this is a highly liquid market, but still ...

Captain Obvious
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:30 PM
We can do this all day long... it's a pointless argument... as they all make idiots out of themselves.


Most accurate thing posted in the whole thread.

Except my other posts. :)

DanFZ1
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:38 PM
And the rube needs to take a geography class, for 57 States the United States does not have, "with one left to go".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

We can do this all day long... it's a pointless argument... as they all make idiots out of themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8


Snopes, so in the tank for Obama.


http://www (http://www/).snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

DanFZ1
Thu Oct 23rd, 2008, 09:40 PM
Most accurate thing posted in the whole thread.

Except my other posts. :)

+1
:rolleyes: