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Devaclis
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 08:54 AM
And did you feel it was really justified?


In this case, I think it is justified. Is military law in effect?

Jesus, don't be ignorancy.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/242520/teacher-threatens-to-call-the-cops-over-linux.html

A teacher has thrown a student into detention and threatened to call the police for using Linux in her classroom.

The teacher spotted one of her students giving a demonstration of the HeliOS distro to other students. In a somewhat over-the-top reaction, she confiscated the CDs, put the student on detention and whipped off a letter to the HeliOS Project threatening to report it to the police for distributing illegal software.

"I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom," writes the teacher, identified only as Karen.

"At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows.

"I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting Linux on these machines is holding our kids back," she writes.

Not content with completely missing the point of Linux, Karen concluded by throwing down the ultimate insult to the Linux advocates: "This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on


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a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all.

"I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them..."

The HeliOS project members were understandably upset, and quickly fired off a reply.

"Please...investigate to your heart's content. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes...

"I don't know when you attended college Karen but the Linux of even two years ago pales in feature and ability to what there is available now... and that in turn will pale in a year's time. Linux is superior to Microsoft Windows in so many ways, they are too numerous to mention here."

puckstr
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 09:11 AM
unless the students was giving the DEMO on a school PC then the teacher should have kept her noise-hole shut.

rforsythe
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 09:19 AM
I love how the guy who runs the Helios project actually went so far as to schedule a meeting with the superintendent.

dirkterrell
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 09:44 AM
It's hard to believe that someone who is teaching could be that ignorant. Using Linux sure doesn't hold us back here at SwRI from doing cutting edge research. http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/images/goofy.gifI love how he points out that by saving all that money sent to Microsoft, we'd have a lot more to spend on education.

This incident just goes to show how Microsoft gets their tentacles into future markets and blinds people to the alternatives. Years ago I was one of the loudest proponents of OS/2 and ran the world's largest OS/2 web site. Between Microsoft's underhanded tactics and IBM's cluelessness, it never got real traction in the market. But it remains the best PC OS I have ever used and I've used a lot of them.

Dirk

TFOGGuys
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 09:56 AM
One wonders what would happen if she found one of her students using PhP?

dirkterrell
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 09:59 AM
One wonders what would happen if she found one of her students using PhP?

That's like LSD, right?

Dirk

XJ600s
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:02 AM
haha! I can only imagine if she walked in to the Cosmos lab at the observatory on campus. Every single computer runs Linux. To be honest, I prefer Linux to Windows and have deeply contemplated installing it on my home computer and getting rid of the stupid XP bugs and updates that happen everyday.

puckstr
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:08 AM
It's hard to believe that someone who is teaching could be that ignorant. Using Linux sure doesn't hold us back here at SwRI from doing cutting edge research. http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/images/goofy.gifI love how he points out that by saving all that money sent to Microsoft, we'd have a lot more to spend on education.

This incident just goes to show how Microsoft gets their tentacles into future markets and blinds people to the alternatives. Years ago I was one of the loudest proponents of OS/2 and ran the world's largest OS/2 web site. Between Microsoft's underhanded tactics and IBM's cluelessness, it never got real traction in the market. But it remains the best PC OS I have ever used and I've used a lot of them.

Dirk


Too bad for OS/2, it failed due to poor marketing.

TFOGGuys
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:11 AM
That's like LSD, right?

Dirk

More like GHB.

Sortarican
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:16 AM
If the student was installing it on a classroom PC then the teacher/school sucks at securing their network and workstations.

If the classes curriculum is Windows then the kid needs to be working in windows. So yeah, give him detention.
If he wants a different course of study he should lobby for it. Or start a Linux club at his school.
I hate M/S operating systems and always have. But the fact is it's what the business world is using.

I have the feeling this kid is probably one of those obnoxious ubergeeks who preach the same religious platform nonsense that a lot of Apple/MS/Linux/Oracle fanatics do.

I also have the feeling that this teacher would advocate the "flat earth" doctrine were it the district policy.
Even if you took her up in the space shuttle and let her see for herself.

Mental
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:22 AM
Karen?!?

Ha!!

This reeks of Cathy's typical insensitive kneejerk reactions,. utter distain for free thought and hatred of her students.

Fess up girl!

puckstr
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:23 AM
I Love Microsoft. It is crap, it crashes, does unexpected things, and hardly ever lives up to it's promises, but it keeps me employed.

You see if a product runs well then there is no money to be made on the servicing of said product. The money is in the continued service after the sale.

That is also why there will NEVER be a cure to Cancer or AIDS, just on going lifelong costly treatment.

Devaclis
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:26 AM
WARP FTW? Hell, at Janus we ran OS/2 WARP on a VERY important biz server that was batching transactions worth $$$$$$$$$. The only problem we ever had with it is when a newb tried to update the NIC drivers to "XP drivers"

Devaclis
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 10:27 AM
If the student was installing it on a classroom PC then the teacher/school sucks at securing their network and workstations.

If the classes curriculum is Windows then the kid needs to be working in windows. So yeah, give him detention.
If he wants a different course of study he should lobby for it. Or start a Linux club at his school.
I hate M/S operating systems and always have. But the fact is it's what the business world is using.

I have the feeling this kid is probably one of those obnoxious ubergeeks who preach the same religious platform nonsense that a lot of Apple/MS/Linux/Oracle fanatics do.

I also have the feeling that this teacher would advocate the "flat earth" doctrine were it the district policy.
Even if you took her up in the space shuttle and let her see for herself.

It is funny you mention that. On the site where I found this article I stated that the teacher was probably a member of the Flat Earth Society :)

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

dirkterrell
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 12:29 PM
WARP FTW? Hell, at Janus we ran OS/2 WARP on a VERY important biz server that was batching transactions worth $$$$$$$$$.

I developed one of the first real-time e-commerce systems back in 1994 (I had people tell me I was wasting my time.) and it ran on OS/2. Solid as hell. It used to run just about every ATM but I'm not sure that is still the case.

Dirk

puckstr
Mon Dec 15th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Two years ago when Mountain States Bank was still around (damn you UMB).
My controller PC for our NCR 7780 sorter was run on OS2 warp. It Never crashed just like my old Netware 3.12 server that ran flawlessly for 4 years without even a single reboot.

MAZIN
Tue Dec 16th, 2008, 01:22 AM
My sig is an actual message from Windows Live One Care...

rforsythe
Tue Dec 16th, 2008, 07:43 AM
A couple screenshots from my XP laptop at work. I rarely use it (I do just about everything on the Mac) but keep it around for comedic value.