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Mental
Thu Jan 27th, 2011, 07:23 PM
which is fancey talk for station wagon

"This is it. This is Ferrari's first four-wheel-drive model, called — the FF (Ferrari Four). The new Prancing Stallion with the super-sized rear end will replace Ferrari's 612 Scaglietti flagship. See, told ya it'd be a shooting brake.

Powering all four wheels is a naturally-aspirated 6.3-liter V12 direct injection engine, with 651bhp (at 8000 rpm) and 504 lb-ft of torque. That's enough to motivate the 3,946 lb. FF from 0-to-62 MPH in 3.7 seconds, with a top speed of 208 MPH."

http://jalopnik.com/5739585/ferrari-ff-four-wheel-drive-four-seats-one-fantastic-rear-end

Ferrari is stepping it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuaxJn71zhA
mathman1000
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 09:12 AM
That looks a bit like the BMW M3 coupe. Sweet ass car! I love wagons.
The GECCO
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 03:13 PM
3900 pounds!?!?! The new Porsche Panamera weighs over 4100 pounds! Even the all new Corvette ZR1 weighs over 3300 lbs.

Aren't cars supposed to be getting lighter with all the new materials?

I have an all original 1965 GTO that weighs less than 3500 pounds. A 1970 Camaro weighed 3313 lbs. A 1992 Camaro weighed 3105 lbs. WTF is happening? Chevy can't make a ZR1 that weighs less than a 92 Camaro?

I don't get it...
MetaLord 9
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 03:35 PM
3900 pounds!?!?! The new Porsche Panamera weighs over 4100 pounds! Even the all new Corvette ZR1 weighs over 3300 lbs.

Aren't cars supposed to be getting lighter with all the new materials?

I have an all original 1965 GTO that weighs less than 3500 pounds. A 1970 Camaro weighed 3313 lbs. A 1992 Camaro weighed 3105 lbs. WTF is happening? Chevy can't make a ZR1 that weighs less than a 92 Camaro?

I don't get it...
They ARE lighter...they're just filled with more technology so you don't have to think as much when driving them...and that's what porks up the weight
Wrider
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 04:00 PM
They ARE lighter...they're just filled with more technology so you don't have to think as much when driving them...and that's what porks up the weight

And govt req'd safety features like tire pressure monitoring systems and traction control systems.
DFab
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 04:54 PM
And govt req'd safety features like tire pressure monitoring systems and traction control systems.

Required by the Italian government? :think:
Wrider
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 05:13 PM
Required by the Italian government? :think:

US, but they were talking about the Vette ZR1 and such, and any vehicle sold in the US has to have those, so it applies to the FF.
Sleev
Fri Jan 28th, 2011, 05:39 PM
to paraphrase Clarkson: It looks like a dog squatting down to take a dump.