pit bull owners more likely to be criminals

[whitebrad]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/pit-bull-owners-more-likely-to-be-criminals/2006/11/17/1163266755120.html"Owners of vicious dogs who have been cited for failing to register a dog (or) failing to keep a dog confined on the premises ... are more than nine times more likely to have been convicted for a crime involving children, three times more likely to have been convicted of domestic violence ... and nearly eight times more likely to be charged with drug (crimes) than owners of low-risk licensed dogs" (study abstract link below)

http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/21/12/1616.abstract

[DevilsTonic]

articles like that piss me off.

[dirkterrell]

Difficult to assess their study when the full paper isn't freely available. Being a four year old paper, it should be. That said, I wouldn't say I'm too surprised at the results. I mean, you don't see gang bangers running around with purse chihuahuas. :-) Of course, the extension that poor thinkers and those with an agenda will make, that someone who owns a pit bull is a criminal, is nonsense.

Dirk

[Valguard]

All rapist look at porn.
Looking at porn means your a rapist? Not true.

All criminals own pit bulls.
Pit bull owners are all criminals? No.

[dirkterrell]

Here is a later study that looked at the same situation:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13073172/Vicious-Dogs-The-Antisocial-Behaviors-and-Psychological-Characteristics-of-Owners

In this study, owners of small dogs were just as likely to commit drug crimes as those who owned "vicious" dogs. The 2006 study claims that the ratio is eight to one (assuming that the cited newspaper article is correct and that is often a big assumption). The study above involved undergraduates at "a large eastern university." I think the disparity in the rates might just have something to do with the sample pool. Since I don't have the 2006 article, it is not possible to say with certainty.

Dirk

[Wrider]

Yeah I think it's actually more of the opposite.
"Criminals more likely to own pit bulls" merely because of the dogs' "badass" reputation.

[dallas]

People who own Puggles cook meth and commit violent crimes on the handicapped.

[Ricky]

Dogs are like guns to criminals. The more badass the gun, the cooler they are. Therefore, the more badass and aggressive your dog, the cooler you are.

And unfortunately, those are the people that give pits, and guns, a bad name.

[Snowman]

Here is a later study that looked at the same situation:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13073172/Vicious-Dogs-The-Antisocial-Behaviors-and-Psychological-Characteristics-of-Owners

In this study, owners of small dogs were just as likely to commit drug crimes as those who owned "vicious" dogs. The 2006 study claims that the ratio is eight to one (assuming that the cited newspaper article is correct and that is often a big assumption). The study above involved undergraduates at "a large eastern university." I think the disparity in the rates might just have something to do with the sample pool. Since I don't have the 2006 article, it is not possible to say with certainty.

DirkAnd what government agency is funding this most important research? Is homeland security trying to profile people by their dogs now?

[dirkterrell]

And what government agency is funding this most important research? Is homeland security trying to profile people by their dogs now?

They didn't acknowledge any funding in the paper. That is usually done when Federal funding is involved. Without further info, I'd say it was curious psychologists at WVU doing independent research.

[Filo]

People who own Poodles are more likely to commit crimes of fashion.

But back to the big, aggressive dogs - what is it with the cool, gang banging types getting the big, aggressive male dogs and celebrating the size of their testicles? That has always seemed very strange to me. That and truck nuts. Those gentlemen should just admit they love testicles publicly and stop putting them on display for the rest of us.

[Ricky]

^^:lol:^^

[The Dude Abides!]

If a badass dog makes you a badass.......what does this make me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Q_bT34Qh4

[salsashark]

...That and truck nuts. Those gentlemen should just admit they love testicles publicly and stop putting them on display for the rest of us.

There was actually quite a bit of truck-nut drama on base a couple of years ago. Apparently there was a feud between nut loving truck owners and non-nut lovers. It made for some interesting directives being passed down by base leadership. :lol:

[Filo]

There was actually quite a bit of truck-nut drama on base a couple of years ago. Apparently there was a feud between nut loving truck owners and non-nut lovers. It made for some interesting directives being passed down by base leadership. :lol:

Why do we get truck nuts, but we don't get VW Beetle vags? I would follow that person around town all week...

[dirkterrell]

There was actually quite a bit of truck-nut drama on base a couple of years ago. Apparently there was a feud between nut loving truck owners and non-nut lovers. It made for some interesting directives being passed down by base leadership. :lol:

Reminds me of this current exercise in bickering:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/936951--what-s-in-a-name-city-officials-not-keen-on-harry-baals

Dirk

[wulf]

"Owners of... dogs who have been cited ... ... and nearly eight times more likely to be charged with... (crimes) than owners of licensed dogs"

So what your saying is people who break the law are more likely to be criminals than those that don't break the law? How insightful.

[whitebrad]

So what your saying is people who break the law are more likely to be criminals than those that don't break the law? How insightful.

i am not saying anything, actually...

i only posted, and quoted, the article and the abstract to the study.

my opinion on this subject is biased... i love pits. i don't think anything i say would matter at all, but since i can't see the study, all i have to go on is the methedology used for the study. and since that method is a matched study, instead of a readily available case study, i find some fault, as matched studies and rdd studies have some inherent flaws...

but the article was quite inflammatory... i think all of US on here that own dogs would make their results skewed as hell, considering they are counting convictions and INCLUDING traffic convictions...

is there a person on this whole board who doesn't have a ticket?

[modette99]

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[The Black Knight]

is there a person on this whole board who doesn't have a ticket?

:hibye:

[thankgod]

:shock:
People who own Puggles cook meth and commit violent crimes on the handicapped.

[Wrider]

:hibye:
Your current ride doesn't go fast enough to get a ticket, so you don't count... :drink:

[The Black Knight]

Your current ride doesn't go fast enough to get a ticket, so you don't count... :drink:
HAHA!! I beg to differ, but will say this. The whole 8 years of riding sportbikes, I never once had a ticket for speeding. And believe me, I did my part in not obeying the speed limit, I would just pick and choose my locations wisely to turn it up. Most of the time, it was in the mountains with no one around.

[Wrider]

HAHA!! I beg to differ, but will say this. The whole 8 years of riding sportbikes, I never once had a ticket for speeding. And believe me, I did my part in not obeying the speed limit, I would just pick and choose my locations wisely to turn it up. Most of the time, it was in the mountains with no one around.

Gotta say that's pretty impressive!

[The Black Knight]

Gotta say that's pretty impressive!
Well I had my license to think about, as I need it for my line of work. Now that I've got a CDL, it just compounds the issue. Any little thing, stays on my record for a long time, so the switch to the Harley was the way to go. Plus I'm getting old HAHA!!, was getting burnt out with sportbikes. Needed comfort over performance. Don't get me wrong, the most fun I've ever had on a motorcycle was doing trackdays. But on the streets, I've got to say, my cruiser is some of the most fun I've had in a long time. Had I'd known cruisers were this enjoyable, I would have switched a long time ago, or at least had the two(sportbike & cruiser). But now, I'm all about comfort, I still wave to the sportbike guys as I get passed or see them going the other way. I look at it, as I still get to where I'm going and at least I can stand up straight when I do. :)

[Filo]

Plus I'm getting old HAHA!!, was getting burnt out with sportbikes. Needed comfort over performance. Don't get me wrong, the most fun I've ever had on a motorcycle was doing trackdays. But on the streets, I've got to say, my cruiser is some of the most fun I've had in a long time.

Now you just need some truck nuts for that Harley and you are all set.

Also, in one of the very few things that BK and I have in common - no tickets on a motorcycle ever. The last ticket I got was 1989 for an expired registration. Never, ever had a speeding ticket. Ever.