Saturday

[Vellos]

Moco @ 10 GTFO 10:30. Going to Estes. :shock:

[Swift]

Maybe half way. No way in hell I'm going to estes with work @ 4 though.

[WolFeYeZ]

I'm in for the whole way. Cya Saturday.

[OUTLAWD]

this is far too much notice...

[madvlad]

I may be down for this pending side work...

[Darth Do'Urden]

I'm a tentative 'yes'. Don't know if I'm gonna have to work overtime Saturday, so we'll see. I should know more solidly either way by Thursday.

[grim]

I may be in for this ride as long as i dont get another :cussing: ticket on the way to another one of your meetups vellos!

[Spooph]

this is far too much notice...
:pointlaugh::pointlaugh:

and the saga continues...

[Mother Goose]

Just for you Georgie...... I'm not going to make it. ;)

[Vellos]

Just for you Georgie...... I'm not going to make it. ;)

You're just mad at my Prius burnout skills.

[Mother Goose]

http://youtu.be/JXK63kvUi6U

[Vellos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH8kHOW4gAI

[grim]

^^

Still looks like a gay piece of shit for a car!

[Mother Goose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH8kHOW4gAI
:spit: I'd rather drive a stock one than that thing.

[grim]

:spit: I'd rather drive a stock one than that thing.

+1 Except i wouldn't drive it id throw things at it!

[Vellos]

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Toyota-Prius-Shot-Bullet-holes-gun.jpg

Haters gonna hate.

[grim]

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Toyota-Prius-Shot-Bullet-holes-gun.jpg

Haters gonna hate.

Bets lookin prius ive ever seen.

[Vellos]

I can probably corner faster in the Prius than you can on your bike grim. ;)

[madvlad]

I see someone's been playing grand theft auto... lol

[Vellos]

I see someone's been playing grand theft auto... lol

http://photos.dvdfr.com/d/29772-2/Very_Bad_Cops_2.jpg

:)

[Ted]

Looks like a ThreadJack is in progress .....

[Concabar]

Totally would, if I wasn't moving this weekend and my bike wasn't still in the Springs.

[OUTLAWD]

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/13557-1/Threadjack.jpg

[Vellos]

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/13557-1/Threadjack.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/marchtrpt4bhs/GIFs/tumblr_l96johjeir1qddjb4o1_250.gif?t=1303540731

[grim]

I can probably corner faster in the Prius than you can on your bike grim. ;)

Care to challenge that vellos? Ill whip out my special bike and we can have a retarded vehicle race!

[madvlad]

Don't make me bust out the huffy lol

[grim]

Bump you still planning on making this run Vellos?

[Vellos]

Yeah why wouldn't i?

[grim]

Yeah why wouldn't i?

Just checking in the event your attacked my a massive swarm of killer prairie dogs.

[Zach929rr]

Easy on him. A swift breeze could knock George over and he might break something.

[grim]

Easy on him. A swift breeze could knock George over and he might break something.

Havent met him yet..Plan to on saturday is he a little guy?

[Zach929rr]

He is anorexic fo sho

[OUTLAWD]

I might actually be in...I've got an afternoon engagement, but I should be able to make most of it.

[grim]

He is anorexic fo sho

HA!

[Cap'n Crunch]

I should be able to make this one... Looks like it will be an awesome day for a ride.

[Vellos]

He is anorexic fo sho

:(

Fatty. Now you know how it feels, burns doesn't it?

[Zach929rr]

:(

Fatty. Now you know how it feels, burns doesn't it?

:lol::lol:

[madvlad]

He is anorexic fo sho

Maybe that's vy he is so fast through ze corners ja lol jk

[grim]

How long does it normally take to do this run? you gonna come along madvlad?

[madvlad]

How long does it normally take to do this run? you gonna come along madvlad?

Haven't been out there in years but I'm gonna guess 3+ hrs... I want to but running kind of low on funds so I'm like 50/50 at the moment lol... plus they won't pay us till the 6th now cause of the holiday so yea even better lol

[vort3xr6]

I may or may not be poolside working on my bronze.

http://www.meatheadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tan_guido.jpg

[grim]

I may or may not be poolside working on my bronze.

http://www.meatheadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tan_guido.jpg

What just ride like that thats what most of those douches do anyways

[madvlad]

I may or may not be poolside working on my bronze.

http://www.meatheadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tan_guido.jpg

:puke:

[Bueller]

Maybe that's vy he is so fast through ze corners ja lol jk

:sleeping:

[Zach929rr]

I may or may not be poolside working on my bronze.

http://www.meatheadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tan_guido.jpg

I'm totally going to look like that in a year, brah.

[madvlad]

:sleeping:

*snaps fingers* well you're no fun lol

[Bueller]

That's waiting for Vellos in those corners. :)

[madvlad]

That's waiting for Vellos in those corners. :)

Oh snap! Lol... I smell ze challenge ja! Lol

[cptschlongenheimer]

:applause:
This looks more like a vellos thread now. You had me scared when the first page was almost all on-topic.

[Zach929rr]

Oh snap! Lol... I smell ze challenge ja! Lol

Your accent is supposed to be Russian, not German. Fuck.

[madvlad]

Your accent is supposed to be Russian, not German. Fuck.

Shit out of luck there cause though I know Russians I can't speak it to save my life lol

[Vellos]

:sleeping:

:cry:

[MetaLord 9]

I would pay to Vellos v. Bueller, but I'd really only need to pay half price since all I'd actually see would be Bueller

[Bueller]

No street challenge here, we both know better than to take anything like that on the street. I am just busting his nuts.

[madvlad]

Who said street... hehehe jk. I know you were

[grim]

To be honest with all of the Accidents that have been happening im not trying to show off or show anyone up! Just gonna enjoy the rides and scenery!

[Bueller]

Well those that ride with us at IMI know how that turns out :lol:

[MetaLord 9]

For those of you going riding this weekend, keep an eye out. Holiday weekends are lousy with horrible drivers and police presence

[Vellos]

On the street Bueller is a road hazard he's going so slow. The leather trains pile up behind him!

;)

[Matty]

Might be able to make it out. If I do, I'll probably cut out in Lyons.

[MilkMan]

You guys care if a newb tags along? I was trying to get a few buddies to ride up in the twisties on Sat, but they all have plans. I have an 07 gsxr1K that I just picked up, so I'd probably be playing catch up most of the time but still want to get out with a few other riders! LMK fellas!
-Mick-

[Swift]

I'm in for tomorrow. New rear tire and topped off on oil.

[grim]

So Im def in as well but im not gonna be abe to make the whole run the wife wants to go shopping!! Yipee!!

[Zach929rr]

I'm in pending plans that have been made for me that I don't know about yet.

[grim]

I'm in pending plans that have been made for me that I don't know about yet.

You must be married!!!

[Zach929rr]

You must be married!!!

I have a kid :)

It's what I call de facto marriage.

[OUTLAWD]

You guys care if a newb tags along? I was trying to get a few buddies to ride up in the twisties on Sat, but they all have plans. I have an 07 gsxr1K that I just picked up, so I'd probably be playing catch up most of the time but still want to get out with a few other riders! LMK fellas!
-Mick-


I'm sure Georgie and the group would love to have you along...just ride your own ride man, theres no need to play catch-up as we wait for the entire group to regroup along the route

[grim]

I have a kid :)

It's what I call de facto marriage.

Just as good i have both 8)

[Ted]

You guys care if a newb tags along? I was trying to get a few buddies to ride up in the twisties on Sat, but they all have plans. I have an 07 gsxr1K that I just picked up, so I'd probably be playing catch up most of the time but still want to get out with a few other riders! LMK fellas!
-Mick-


I'm sure Georgie and the group would love to have you along...just ride your own ride man, theres no need to play catch-up as we wait for the entire group to regroup along the route

+1 . They always wait for me, plus they love seeing gixxers pull up anyway, especially the 07s ......

[Zach929rr]

Just as good i have both 8)

She keeps bugging me about marriage, and I keep telling her to shut the fuck up.

We get along pretty well. :lol:

[grim]

She keeps bugging me about marriage, and I keep telling her to shut the fuck up.

We get along pretty well. :lol:

Well played sir.. well played... Fortunately nothing changed when i got married we both got into it figuring WTF does it matter. Much better attitude than the common "Oh shit what am i doing?"

Thusly its all good 3 years strong not a single fight or argument!

[Ted]

Well played sir.. well played... Fortunately nothing changed when i got married we both got into it figuring WTF does it matter. Much better attitude than the common "Oh shit what am i doing?"

Thusly its all good 3 years strong not a single fight or argument!

:bow:

Interesting. Who wears the pantalones ??

[grim]

:bow:

Interesting. Who wears the pantalones ??

Me like a motherfucker (literally) which is why we dont argue i dont ever put ourselves in a situation to do so!

[Bueller]

She keeps bugging me about marriage, and I keep telling her to shut the fuck up.

We get along pretty well. :lol:

.

[madvlad]

I won't be making the ride tomorrow after all guys, broke till Wednesday but have fun guys. Beautiful up on that side right now

[OUTLAWD]

looking forward to using up what's left of the tires ;)

[Vellos]

The ones back from the snowy BBQ ride that were already toast?

[Zach929rr]

I'll probably be there closer to 10:30.

[grim]

any way someone can post the google map of the route being taken tomorrow? I need to gauge my time so im back at my place by 3pm for a barbecue.

[OUTLAWD]

The ones back from the snowy BBQ ride that were already toast?


no...a second set of BT003RS's

[Zach929rr]

any way someone can post the google map of the route being taken tomorrow? I need to gauge my time so im back at my place by 3pm for a barbecue.

Just split at Lyons and you will be fine. Probably be back around 2-2:30 if you do that.

[grim]

Just split at Lyons and you will be fine. Probably be back around 2-2:30 if you do that.


Lyons is about an hour from englewood so may have to bail earlier.

[Zach929rr]

Nederland then.

[grim]

Nederland then.

nederland works awesome town too!!!

[grim]

Nederland then.

I don't care what they said about you zach your all right...thanks!

[Swift]

I'll be bailing with you at Nederland as well Grim.

[WolFeYeZ]

Looks like I can't go, got that stringy white stuff showing on my rear tire so I am assuming its kaput. Anyone know of a place that can get a set of Q2s mounted before the ride at a decent price? :P

[Swift]

TFOG?

[WolFeYeZ]

I bet he is swamped. But Ill probably try anyway.

[MilkMan]

I'll be bailing with you at Nederland as well Grim.


If you guys turn back @ nederland I will probably come with you. I have to be back in town around the same time as well, so that will work perfect. Looking forward to meeting some of you tomorrow. I will be on the Yellow/Grey 07 GSXR1000 with no plates on it :squid: and bald ass Bridgestone's lol! I'll do my best to keep up though! Side note though, if we fill up @ the MOCO with fuel, will we be good for the rest of the ride? I've been averaging around 160 miles to a tank, so not sure how long round trip is for this ride? See you all in the AM!!
-Mick-

[Zach929rr]

I don't care what they said about you zach your all right...thanks!

Oh snap, who is talking shit?

Must of been Bueller.


I will be on the Yellow/Grey 07 GSXR1000 with no plates on it :squid: and bald ass Bridgestone's

oh lordy

Also, that reminds me I need to get 3m double sided to put my plate back on tomorrow morning.

[NUTZ]

If you guys turn back @ nederland I will probably come with you. I have to be back in town around the same time as well, so that will work perfect. Looking forward to meeting some of you tomorrow. I will be on the Yellow/Grey 07 GSXR1000 with no plates on it :squid: and bald ass Bridgestone's lol! I'll do my best to keep up though! Side note though, if we fill up @ the MOCO with fuel, will we be good for the rest of the ride? I've been averaging around 160 miles to a tank, so not sure how long round trip is for this ride? See you all in the AM!!
-Mick-

Did you just pick this gsxr up over the weekend? Sounds like my buddies that he sold this past weekend.

Anyways I'll try and make it to moco in the am...

[MilkMan]

Did you just pick this gsxr up over the weekend? Sounds like my buddies that he sold this past weekend.

Anyways I'll try and make it to moco in the am...


If his name is Rob then yes. I just got it last Sat, and it does have a temp, but I kind of work in a not so good part of Glendale on CO blvd so I wont mount the temp because its too easy to rip off and steal! LOL! So I just keep it in my jacket pocket and if I get pulled over I'll just explain that to them.
-Mick-

P.S. @ Nutz, looks like you got lama drama in your avatar pic! LOL! Or are those camels?

[NUTZ]

If his name is Rob then yes. I just got it last Sat, and it does have a temp, but I kind of work in a not so good part of Glendale on CO blvd so I wont mount the temp because its too easy to rip off and steal! LOL! So I just keep it in my jacket pocket and if I get pulled over I'll just explain that to them.
-Mick-

P.S. @ Nutz, looks like you got lama drama in your avatar pic! LOL! Or are those camels?

Yep thats my brother from another... lol

They are Camels ;)

[Vellos]

So many sissies. Night.

[OUTLAWD]

good thing I checked back...I would have went to Golden instead of MoCo

[daemon]

Where can i meet some of you???
What time.
No time to read the whole thread~!

[Bueller]

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showpost.php?p=581670&postcount=1

[daemon]

I meant somewhere along the way Bueller...
I misspoke.

[grim]

I bet he is swamped. But Ill probably try anyway.

you can always try woodys wheel works they don't have a lot of sport bike tires but if they don't you can get a tire from performance down the street from them then take it to woodys and they will mount it.

[Snowman]

Performance now has tire mounting for 20$ a tire off bike.

[Vellos]

I meant somewhere along the way Bueller...
I misspoke.

On I-70 Central City exit or in Central City or most of P2P depending on how far you want to go.

[Liv4Twisties]

Hey all, I too would like to join the ride today. New to the site, not so new to bikes. Riding an '03 FZ1, yellow and black. Could be @ MOCO by 10:30.

[skiteacher]

I'm gonna try to make it. Be there between 10 and 10:15

[rangerup175]

I was going to go to work today....but i have decided against it. Im in. anyone leaving soon from parker area want to meet up send me a pm

[Thrill Hill]

I'm in..

Ryan
11 Yellow S1K

[Swift]

Good ride today for the portion I was there for. Hope everyone made it back in one piece.

[WolFeYeZ]

New tires being put on at performance cycle right now... Going through withdrawls. X.x Luckily Jess is gone so I got a little fix from her bike :P

[duelist13]

Aww hell no, I don't come out to group rides so I can ride by myself in the very back.

Do what I do, slow down the leader with a massive attack mid-gravelly-corner. Then tap your ass as you roll by, it helps with your corner speed.

[MilkMan]

Was good to meet you guys! Had a blast even though I was going pokey slow most of the time! Time for a new set of tires now bad though! Thanks for the tips as well Nutz! Made the ride a lot more fun and less hecktic having the bike feel way more stable! Sorry to the guys that went down today.. Hope you can get the bikes back up and running again soon! I'm glad you all were ok though! Will deff be making it to more of these with you all in the future!!
-Mick-

[Matty]

Good ride boys..... to those that are riding with the center of your foot over the pegs. Try sliding them back so that that the balls of your feet are on the pegs!!!

[grim]

Good ride boys..... to those that are riding with the center of your foot over the pegs. Try sliding them back so that that the balls of your feet are on the pegs!!!

Who in there right mind would do such a thing??? LOL I need to get the bike raised back to stock then I won't have that problem

[grim]

Awesome ride though it was good to see everyone being safe and having a good time even though there was a damn BMW cager that was going as fast as swift and vellos!!!!

[AOK303]

Oi who went down

[grim]

Oi who went down

Lots of people

[AOK303]

They freak out seeing your skull wind shield creeping up on them

[madvlad]

Good ride boys..... to those that are riding with the center of your foot over the pegs. Try sliding them back so that that the balls of your feet are on the pegs!!!

Pardon my newbness but why?

[Bueller]

Aerodynamics :)

Especially you size 12's

[Bueller]

[/sarcasm]

[Matty]

even though there was a damn BMW cager that was going as fast as swift and vellos!!!!

Vellos passed a few cars and was way up front, it was me that was playing with him for a lil bit till I finally went around. He wasn't that bad. He never tried anything stupid when i decided to pass and he was staying in his lane.

[Zach929rr]

Aerodynamics :)

Especially you size 12's

Shit I'm a 13. Ive been losing tenths!

[grim]

Vellos passed a few cars and was way up front, it was me that was playing with him for a lil bit till I finally went around. He wasn't that bad. He never tried anything stupid when i decided to pass and he was staying in his lane.

He was up your ass for awhile I was impressed how fast h was taking those curves!

[grim]

Nothing fancy just pics from my iphone here was the turnout to todays run.

Thanks for setting this run up vellos had a good time and it was nice to meet you..... (Skeletor)

[Penadam]

The curse of vellos struck again! For everyone who didn't stick around, we ended up doing a nice ruin up to stove prairie. I forgot how fun and scarry that road is, good stuff.

[Vellos]

Was great riding with you all and meeting some new people. Seven of us had a superb lunch in Estes and five carried on all the way up Stove Prairie! Hopefully I'll be seeing you all again on future endeavors.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Great ride today guys! Thanks again and I'll see u in the canyons.

[madvlad]

Man this looked like a fun ride, sucks I missed it

[Zach929rr]

Crashers be crashin

[WolFeYeZ]

Man this looked like a fun ride, sucks I missed it

Suck I missed it too :( Looks like it was an amazing ride. Stupid tires -.-

[grim]

That was my first fast paced run w this group of riders and I'm not gonna lie it was fucking awesome and I'm addicted to going so slow in those canyons I'm glad I jumped up with matty vellos and swift so I could observe and repeat. Great run thanks again vellos

[Liv4Twisties]

Wow that was wicked fun! Stove Prairie is very cool.
Thanks to all for lettin' me join in. Vellos, it was great following you. Hope to see you guys out there again soon.

[Vellos]

Crashers be crashin

It's all your fault Zach, you be skurring them lookin' like a bumblebee and all.

http://www.pampet.com/download/beecostume2_1024.jpg

[Ted]

The curse of vellos struck again! For everyone who didn't stick around, we ended up doing a nice ruin up to stove prairie. I forgot how fun and scarry that road is, good stuff.

Whaaa ? What curse do you speak of ????????

[Penadam]

Whaaa ? What curse do you speak of ????????

Crashing curse.

[Swift]

Ok, this slap and tickle bs is killing me. Who went down and how?

Me and Grim had to deal with dumb shits on the way down Boulder Canyon, then a group of Lance Armstrong Wannabes that decided it was cool to filter in the middle of traffic rather than the shoulder.

[Zach929rr]

Ok, this slap and tickle bs is killing me. Who went down and how?


Some guy on a blue and white gsxr that was clearly riding over his head. I didn't catch up to him and Vellos until 10 or so miles from 7/P2P, and saw some awesome body positioning. Sounded like the bike was fucked, but thankfully the guy was ok despite his pimpin sneaks and jeans. Hope he learned his lesson since he had to ride mandam for the rest of the day. :slappers:


Lesson 1: Most people don't learn what "ride your own pace" is until they fuck some shit up.
Lesson 2: After someone crashes from riding over their head, it's always some mysterious gravel that gotem.


It's all your fault Zach, you be skurring them lookin' like a bumblebee and all.

Killer Bee Swarm! Wu-Tang clan aint nothin to fuck with.

[Swift]

If I remember correctly, he hasn't had the bike long which surprised me that he was keeping pace with Vellos and Matty during the time I was with you guys.

Sucks to hear but it seems like its been the same story every time someone has gone down this season. New bike, new rider, goes big like Evel Knievel, eats shit like Evel Knievel.

[Freelancz]

i went back and took pics of his bike, yeah its completely fucked. im about to throw them on facebook. Vellos can grab them from my page.

[GixxerCarrie]

Pardon my newbness but why?

You shouldnt ride flat footed. Try taking a corner that way, then try taking one with you toes on the peg. You will understand why. Watch other riders who you know are good..and look at their foot position.

That is why. Turns are easier. You dont drag foot or peg.

I respect Matty's expierence, I have ridden with him for a long time now...but I can tell you that keeping up with him is not the game..its watching how he rides.. The ride is not about keeping up he will tell you this himself, or being the fastest..for some its about improving their ride. Just cause you watch someone else do it donest mean you can. If your wreck because your trying to keep up with the pacK?:nuke:Your riding beyond your limits. Otherwise, it would take no effort to be there. Not burning anyone, speaking from my own expeirence. There is no humor of any of us going down. :devil2:

[bornwildnfree]

Multiple people went down? Seriously? What happened to ride your own ride? It's sad that going down is known as the curse of Vellos.

[Bueller]

The curse of Vellos is nothing more than the open invites for anyone to show up. When he gets tired of scraping noobs off the pavement he will start being selective with the invites as almost everyone eventually figures out.
If you will notice, if it isn't a super long ride, which usually weeds out the beginners, the experienced riders don't throw out open invites.
I rarely go on any posted rides as it always ends up with someone going down, it happened on the last one I was on a couple of weeks ago. It happened on the one before that.

[OUTLAWD]

If I remember correctly, he hasn't had the bike long which surprised me that he was keeping pace with Vellos and Matty during the time I was with you guys.


its alot easier for newer riders to follow at a quick pace than it is to ride on your own at an elevated pace.

I blasted down 7 first to get away from a few literbikes that were parking it in the turns and drag racing down the straights on P2P ( no offense guys, but 95hp and 600 lbs doesn't make a good drag bike for me.) I wasn't going fast, just wanted to get away from traffic.

Zach and Vellos came up on me shortly and I waived them by, not wanting to keep the same pace they were, gixxer guy pulled up a ways later and was too close to me for me to be comfortable, especially for a guy rocking minimal gear. I waived him by, and the next turn he entered he panicked, ran wide, grabbed front brake, hit the sand, tucked the front and met up with the guardrail. or the "gravel got him"

I made a noob mistake myself and fixated on him/flying parts while I was on the brakes instead of looking through the turn, I then tried to look ahead to see where I was gonna put my bike, I got mostly slowed down but ran off and took a dirt nap after hitting a pile of loose gravel. I know better and am pissed because there is no reason this should have happened. I hopped up to make sure nobody was going to round the corner and hit me, then looked over and saw gixxer guy moving, then the group rolled up slowly

[mtnairlover]

Wow!

Thanks for the explanation, Dave. This says a lot.

I would have to say that I was sad to read this thread for lots of reasons...but mostly the "Oh my God, what a blast going fast...this was the first time I've ever done that...first time on that road...first time..."

I've fixated lots of times (4, to be exact) and each time, bit the dirty ditch and each time walked away, because it was at low speeds, comparably speaking. Haven't done it now for a while though, and don't plan on doing it again. I finally learned to listen to that voice in my head yelling at me when I'm questioning the road, my awareness, my gut.

Two wheels are a whole different ball game when taking on speed and anyone who thinks he's/she's got it all figured out is a crash waiting to happen.

Meh...again, speaking from experience.

I'd echo what Carrie said on the technique, too. Also, watch some moto-gp and watch body positioning. Don't look for how fast the guys are riding, but watch how they finesse their bikes. Watch for technique, period. Learn how to control your bike at any speed and respect the throttle...stop abusing it!

[Graphite675]

I rarely go on any posted rides as it always ends up with someone going down, it happened on the last one I was on a couple of weeks ago. It happened on the one before that.

You aren't kidding. Every time I read one of these group ride threads by the end at least one person has gone down. Seems like every ride this year has had a crash (or 2).

Glad everyone is ok.


.

[Vellos]

Every time it has been 20ish year olds who are new to the forum. I think for a future ride I'll attempt placing a rule on people who haven't ridden with the group before so that they have to stay in the later half. Just an idea... but it's easy for them to get in over their heads trying to keep up with those who are comfortable with the faster speeds. And telling them to do their own thing and ride their own ride doesn't seem to be taken seriously.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/259944_117031388386609_100002392457867_153529_3531 844_n.jpg

[BC14]

Graphite 675 Said:

You aren't kidding. Every time I read one of these group ride threads by the end at least one person has gone down. Seems like every ride this year has had a crash (or 2). I've logged over 8,000 miles so far this year, and not one person on one of "my"(far from the leader on them) rides has gone down. And ask anyone who has ridden with me; I'm not playing it conservative, but rather paying attention to bike and road conditions. It's all a state of mind.

Glad everyone is ok./Quote


Still having issues with quoting.

[Ninja2]

I think for a future ride I'll attempt placing a rule on people who haven't ridden with the group before so that they have to stay in the later half.



I don't think that works, unless you have someone leading who is an experienced rider and knows the route.
Keep in mind that riders new to the board are either: 1. new to riding, or 2. new to the area, or 3. both. Rarely do I meet new board members who have ridden for a while and know the routes/area.

What I am trying to say: new members need someone to show them the route at a reasonable speed, ideally showing them the lines. Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
BornWild taught me a great way of doing this and it is breaking up in groups with at least a leader for each. Possibly also a sweeper. I've been on 3 large group rides this year alone where this was done successfully, incl. a "newb" ride in the South. And I give credit to BornWild.

At that occasion, I do want to thank everyone here who has helped me with that during my last 3 yrs of riding! I know this takes a lot of patience and you do not get to ride your own ride.

[Graphite675]

Graphite 675 Said:

I've logged over 8,000 miles so far this year, and not one person on one of "my"(far from the leader on them) rides has gone down. And ask anyone who has ridden with me; I'm not playing it conservative, but rather paying attention to bike and road conditions. It's all a state of mind.

Glad everyone is ok.

Glad you haven't had any crashes, just seems like there has been a lot this year. Maybe not on "your" rides but a lot of crashes in general.




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[Vellos]

But I'm not hosting these rides to teach people. By staying in the back half I meant not being able to pass someone who would be going a decent pace that also knows the road. If they feel that they need to go faster than an experienced yet conservative rider they will probably end up eating dirt.

[BC14]

For sure, I'm not saying that there hasn't been an abundance of crashes. Sucks for all those involved, no doubt. I think most of it comes down to lack of seat time and not having anyone willing to give em some pointers.

[Snowman]

I don't think that works, unless you have someone leading who is an experienced rider and knows the route.
Keep in mind that riders new to the board are either: 1. new to riding, or 2. new to the area, or 3. both. Rarely do I meet new board members who have ridden for a while and know the routes/area.

What I am trying to say: new members need someone to show them the route at a reasonable speed, ideally showing them the lines. Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
BornWild taught me a great way of doing this and it is breaking up in groups with at least a leader for each. Possibly also a sweeper. I've been on 3 large group rides this year alone where this was done successfully, incl. a "newb" ride in the South. And I give credit to BornWild.

At that occasion, I do want to thank everyone here who has helped me with that during my last 3 yrs of riding! I know this takes a lot of patience and you do not get to ride your own ride.I agree with you. Maybe you should try and assigning to a more experienced rider to lead someone that hasn't ridden with this group before. Show them proper speed and line, point out obstacles on and off the road surface. Along with the basic talk about what to expect.


But I'm not hosting these rides to teach people. By staying in the back half I meant not being able to pass someone who would be going a decent pace that also knows the road. If they feel that they need to go faster than an experienced yet conservative rider they will probably end up eating dirt.If that's the case then state in your post that new riders are not welcome. By opening these ride to everyone and a new rider shows up then you must take the responsibility for teaching that rider what to expect.

[Graphite675]

Every time it has been 20ish year olds who are new to the forum. I think for a future ride I'll attempt placing a rule on people who haven't ridden with the group before so that they have to stay in the later half. Just an idea... but it's easy for them to get in over their heads trying to keep up with those who are comfortable with the faster speeds. And telling them to do their own thing and ride their own ride doesn't seem to be taken seriously.




Yeah, it's usually a age/maturity thing for sure. It's so hard to "police" the rides because no matter what you tell them there is always going to be someone who thinks he the next Rossi and try to keep up with people that have much more sense and experience. Next thing you know that guy is way over his head.

Glad the guy is ok, that bike is pretty messed up.

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[Ninja2]

I totally understand where you're coming from. And it seems that if that is not done, the likelihood of waiting around cuz of crashes is higher. So it's a trade-off. But agree, ultimately it is ALWAYS the rider's responsibility.

[Matty]

My Own Personal Disclaimer.......

Do As I Say, Not As I Do!!!!

As for the guy on the Blue and White Gixxer... Glad you're ok, sux about the bike. Hopefully lesson learned. I didn't realize that you had only been riding a lil bit. You made a comment before the ride started and said you felt under dressed cause you saw a few of us, including myself, in Full Leathers. i remember telling you to just ride mellow and not try to keep up! On Highway 119 from Central City to Nederland I was keeping the "PACE" (gotten fucked by Gilpin County Sheriffs a couple too many times, so i don't push it too hard). Until my brief fun with the BMW (car). You stayed a good distance and didn't seem like you were struggling to keep up.

Highway 7 is just one of those perfect rode's were adrenaline starts flowing. Hopefully next time you'll keep it within your limits. Heal up, and get that bike repaired.

[Snowman]

Matty is right. You can not expect to tell a new rider to not ride like you do then expect them to not follow you deep into a corner. They have, they will and always do. It's human nature to want acceptance and to go beyond their means to get it.

You have to be grown up enough to realize this. They will not stay in the back of a pack if they think they can horse power up their way up to the front in the straight only to over shoot a corner.

[grim]

Every time it has been 20ish year olds who are new to the forum. I think for a future ride I'll attempt placing a rule on people who haven't ridden with the group before so that they have to stay in the later half. Just an idea... but it's easy for them to get in over their heads trying to keep up with those who are comfortable with the faster speeds. And telling them to do their own thing and ride their own ride doesn't seem to be taken seriously.

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Holy crap man is that the dude who I was behind during the run through central city was is? Black jacket jeans and skate shoes?

[Matty]

oh and Dave.... sorry to hear about the Triumph. Glad you're alright as well. We all know you can ride, shit happens.

[BC14]

I agree with you. Maybe you should try and assigning to a more experienced rider to lead someone that hasn't ridden with this group before. Show them proper speed and line, point out obstacles on and off the road surface. Along with the basic talk about what to expect.

If that's the case then state in your post that new riders are not welcome. By opening these ride to everyone and a new rider shows up then you must take the responsibility for teaching that rider what to expect.
+1

[Zach929rr]

Holy crap man is that the dude who I was behind during the run through central city was is? Black jacket jeans and skate shoes?

yep

On a sidebar, I wonder if any of the people I hadn't rode with thought "Man that fat guy on the 929 is riding way over his head" since I started near the back.

[WolFeYeZ]

its alot easier for newer riders to follow at a quick pace than it is to ride on your own at an elevated pace.

I blasted down 7 first to get away from a few literbikes that were parking it in the turns and drag racing down the straights on P2P ( no offense guys, but 95hp and 600 lbs doesn't make a good drag bike for me.) I wasn't going fast, just wanted to get away from traffic.

Zach and Vellos came up on me shortly and I waived them by, not wanting to keep the same pace they were, gixxer guy pulled up a ways later and was too close to me for me to be comfortable, especially for a guy rocking minimal gear. I waived him by, and the next turn he entered he panicked, ran wide, grabbed front brake, hit the sand, tucked the front and met up with the guardrail. or the "gravel got him"

I made a noob mistake myself and fixated on him/flying parts while I was on the brakes instead of looking through the turn, I then tried to look ahead to see where I was gonna put my bike, I got mostly slowed down but ran off and took a dirt nap after hitting a pile of loose gravel. I know better and am pissed because there is no reason this should have happened. I hopped up to make sure nobody was going to round the corner and hit me, then looked over and saw gixxer guy moving, then the group rolled up slowly

I rode up and down 7 six times on Friday, I don't remember there being any sand o.O


I don't think that works, unless you have someone leading who is an experienced rider and knows the route.
Keep in mind that riders new to the board are either: 1. new to riding, or 2. new to the area, or 3. both. Rarely do I meet new board members who have ridden for a while and know the routes/area.

What I am trying to say: new members need someone to show them the route at a reasonable speed, ideally showing them the lines. Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
BornWild taught me a great way of doing this and it is breaking up in groups with at least a leader for each. Possibly also a sweeper. I've been on 3 large group rides this year alone where this was done successfully, incl. a "newb" ride in the South. And I give credit to BornWild.

At that occasion, I do want to thank everyone here who has helped me with that during my last 3 yrs of riding! I know this takes a lot of patience and you do not get to ride your own ride.

Yea, you are a great leader. Definitely saved my ass on that newb ride cuz I was being dumb and trying to take what I thought were racing type lines that got me in trouble with lots of sand. It ended up being a great first day though, so yet again thanks for the help :P





On a sidebar, I wonder if any of the people I hadn't rode with thought "Man that fat guy on the 929 is riding way over his head" since I started near the back.

Too much DRZ? o.O

[madvlad]

Man that gixxer got jacked up!... sometimes people learn the hard way. When we went up highway 7 and all I was keeping my distance and taking my time to learn the corners again cause haven't been in that road in well over 3 years. I'm always cautious about it, rather be a bit behind than end up like that cause like mentioned its real easy to get in over your head. Hope the rider is okay

[Thrill Hill]

Besides yesterday's rider errors and holiday traffic, it was a fun day up in the twisties. I'm glad nobody got hurt. Thank you Vellos for posting these group rides every week. I'm looking forward to the next one... Almost as much as I'm looking forward to refreshing this thread every hour!

[grim]

yep

On a sidebar, I wonder if any of the people I hadn't rode with thought "Man that fat guy on the 929 is riding way over his head" since I started near the back.

That's sucks I had no Idea he was new to riding. And for the record my statement observe and repeat I meant the style of riding def not the speeds cause swift vellos and Zach got waaaay ahead of me and I had no intention of catching up to them in the canyons I went my speed I was comfortable with which was plenty for me!

[GixxerCarrie]

its alot easier for newer riders to follow at a quick pace than it is to ride on your own at an elevated pace.

I blasted down 7 first to get away from a few literbikes that were parking it in the turns and drag racing down the straights on P2P ( no offense guys, but 95hp and 600 lbs doesn't make a good drag bike for me.) I wasn't going fast, just wanted to get away from traffic.

Zach and Vellos came up on me shortly and I waived them by, not wanting to keep the same pace they were, gixxer guy pulled up a ways later and was too close to me for me to be comfortable, especially for a guy rocking minimal gear. I waived him by, and the next turn he entered he panicked, ran wide, grabbed front brake, hit the sand, tucked the front and met up with the guardrail. or the "gravel got him"

I made a noob mistake myself and fixated on him/flying parts while I was on the brakes instead of looking through the turn, I then tried to look ahead to see where I was gonna put my bike, I got mostly slowed down but ran off and took a dirt nap after hitting a pile of loose gravel. I know better and am pissed because there is no reason this should have happened. I hopped up to make sure nobody was going to round the corner and hit me, then looked over and saw gixxer guy moving, then the group rolled up slowly

I'm sorry Dave...That just plain sucks!

[OUTLAWD]

I rode up and down 7 six times on Friday, I don't remember there being any sand o.O




hey there guy...if you knew how to read, you would have seen the "he ran wide...into the sand" implying the sand on the shoulder of the road, right before guardrail impact...I kinda saw the whole thing happen


and I'm glad you enjoy riding the same stretch of road all day

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[OUTLAWD]

and big guy on the bumble bee...stop dragging your knee on public roads...you are in WAY over your head

[BC14]

hey there guy...if you knew how to read, you would have seen the "he ran wide...into the sand" implying the sand on the shoulder of the road, right before guardrail impact...I kinda saw the whole thing happen


and I'm glad you enjoy riding the same stretch of road all day

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/7/73/20110128203738%21Trollface.png
:spit::yes:

[BC14]

and big guy on the bumble bee...stop dragging your knee on public roads...you are in WAY over your head
Now that I have to see. Should GoPro it next time :p

[Ghost]

Telling people (new riders) to "ride their own ride" doesn't really help when they have no idea what "their own ride" means--they're not familiar enough with their own bike, their own skill, and/or the roads they're riding to know how fast they should/shouldn't be going--so they try to glom onto the ass of the faster riders and stick there regardless of whether they can/should be riding like that...

[grim]

I don't think that works, unless you have someone leading who is an experienced rider and knows the route.
Keep in mind that riders new to the board are either: 1. new to riding, or 2. new to the area, or 3. both. Rarely do I meet new board members who have ridden for a while and know the routes/area.

What I am trying to say: new members need someone to show them the route at a reasonable speed, ideally showing them the lines. Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
BornWild taught me a great way of doing this and it is breaking up in groups with at least a leader for each. Possibly also a sweeper. I've been on 3 large group rides this year alone where this was done successfully, incl. a "newb" ride in the South. And I give credit to BornWild.

At that occasion, I do want to thank everyone here who has helped me with that during my last 3 yrs of riding! I know this takes a lot of patience and you do not get to ride your own ride.



i agree to an extent of your point not all people are unfamiliar with the are or non seasoned riders. we had one who was new to the group but was experienced and even said himself I am going to stay in the back.

I myself have not ridden with such a large group from this club untill yesterday I have done rides in castle rock, colorado springs deer creek, turkey creek, and bear creek with just two or three of us. Granted this does not make me an expert in any way shape or form and i have much to learn but ive been riding for 6 years mostly cruisers but occasionally sport bikes. i know my limits and yes I did post " oh my god fast this fast and fast that and new this new that" but that doesn't mean i don't know what I doing. I believe it was zach that pointed out to me that I need to watch my toes in my turnes because they were getting very close. a very helpful observation that i will keep in mind and use.

it's sad to hear two people went down originally swift and i thought the gixser was going to bail from Nederland with us maybe he should have glad nobody was seriously injured though.

[Zach929rr]

and big guy on the bumble bee...stop dragging your knee on public roads...you are in WAY over your head

I didn't have knee pucks so if I would have it would have sucked.

[OUTLAWD]

Now that I have to see. Should GoPro it next time :p

not really...but not far off...I saw him in my mirror (yes, I had time to look in my mirror mid turn, and smell some roses, and scratch my ass) I'm :turtle:


Telling people (new riders) to "ride their own ride" doesn't really help when they have no idea what "their own ride" means--they're not familiar enough with their own bike, their own skill, and/or the roads they're riding to know how fast they should/shouldn't be going--so they try to glom onto the ass of the faster riders and stick there regardless of whether they can/should be riding like that...

maybe not "ride your own ride", but how about "check your ego at the gas station"...the fastest rides I have been on are with the "old" people on their "old man" bikes, where people ride a smooth an comfortable pace, and you rarely see brake lights, not speed up to 100 on the straights to do 40 in a turn. people are either going to take it slow at first and learn the easy way, or learn the hard way...Darwin always gets his ;)

I do like the idea of breaking rides up into groups, but in the case of the 20-something canyon hero, is he/she really going to want to follow some bike with saddle bags in the slow or medium group, when their 1000cc sportbike can do way more than ~60mph on the straights??? or are thay gonna jump in line with the leather clad power ranger on their sportbike at the front? (no offense Vellos...:))

[BC14]

Outlawd Said:

maybe not "ride your own ride", but how about "check your ego at the gas station"...the fastest rides I have been on are with the "old" people on their "old man" bikes(or land yachts), where people ride a smooth an comfortable pace, and you rarely see brake lights(engine braking anyone), not speed up to 100 on the straights to do 40 in a turn. people are either going to take it slow at first and learn the easy way, or learn the hard way...Darwin always gets his ;)

I do like the idea of breaking rides up into groups, but in the case of the 20-something canyon hero, is he/she really going to want to follow some bike with saddle bags in the slow or medium group, when their 1000cc sportbike can do way more than ~60mph on the straights???(Don't forget the wheelies, man) or are thay gonna jump in line with the leather clad power ranger(Canezach:p) on their sportbike at the front? (no offense Vellos...:))[/QUOTE]

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

its alot easier for newer riders to follow at a quick pace than it is to ride on your own at an elevated pace.

I blasted down 7 first to get away from a few literbikes that were parking it in the turns and drag racing down the straights on P2P ( no offense guys, but 95hp and 600 lbs doesn't make a good drag bike for me.) I wasn't going fast, just wanted to get away from traffic.

Zach and Vellos came up on me shortly and I waived them by, not wanting to keep the same pace they were, gixxer guy pulled up a ways later and was too close to me for me to be comfortable, especially for a guy rocking minimal gear. I waived him by, and the next turn he entered he panicked, ran wide, grabbed front brake, hit the sand, tucked the front and met up with the guardrail. or the "gravel got him"

I made a noob mistake myself and fixated on him/flying parts while I was on the brakes instead of looking through the turn, I then tried to look ahead to see where I was gonna put my bike, I got mostly slowed down but ran off and took a dirt nap after hitting a pile of loose gravel. I know better and am pissed because there is no reason this should have happened. I hopped up to make sure nobody was going to round the corner and hit me, then looked over and saw gixxer guy moving, then the group rolled up slowly
Ahhh shit, sorry to hear it Dave. Hope you and the bike are alright. I've seen 3 people wad it a couple bike lengths in front of me, and it IS really distracting and hypnotic. One guy's bike was flipping end over end as high as a telephone pole at over 80mph, and my buddy Doug in front of me fixated on it. I could see his helmet turn to look as he was starting to miss the apex. Thankfully he realized it and finished the corner. I glanced at it and quickly looked away. This was the second totalled bike in 20mon on my very first CSC ride 8 years ago.

@ Carrie: I'm kind of weird about foot position then, as I slide it back a little, but still keep the peg in the arch of my boot, I just angle my foot a little to bring it more inboard. Works for me. But then, sometimes I like to use a little rear brake in the corners to adjust the bike's position.

[grim]

@ Carrie: I'm kind of weird about foot position then, as I slide it back a little, but still keep the peg in the arch of my boot, I just angle my foot a little to bring it more inboard. Works for me. But then, sometimes I like to use a little rear brake in the corners to adjust the bike's position.

+1 as was pointed out to me and yesterday I did drag toe a little though so I need to watch it.

[AOK303]

Oh man bad luck hope every one is ok

[OUTLAWD]

luck has got nothing to do with it man...

and BC...for gods sake man...
insert text here

[BC14]

luck has got nothing to do with it man...

and BC...for gods sake man...
Bite me, it's hit or miss for me today.... dunno why.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

I won't claim to be fast sportbike rider. I can only claim to be an OLD sportbike rider. But, in the end, isn't that a better achievement anyways? ;)

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

+1 as was pointed out to me and yesterday I did drag toe a little though so I need to watch it.
Well, I tuck 'em in pretty good now, the only time I dragged toe was at IMI. I can't imagine actually dragging any parts on the bike......

[BC14]

Well, I tuck 'em in pretty good now, the only time I dragged toe was at IMI. I can't imagine actually dragging any parts on the bike......
I drug foot on fri in a fast left hand sweeper. I kinda forgot that upshifts aren't easy going left at a decent lean angle..... I'm wearing away my peg feelers nicely though. Eventually I'll stop hitting those damn things... kinda surprising when they hit.

[grim]

Well, I tuck 'em in pretty good now, the only time I dragged toe was at IMI. I can't imagine actually dragging any parts on the bike......

yea haven't made contact on the bike nor do i want to after my toe touched yesterday I'm gonna be sure to tuck the foot in from now on.

[AOK303]

luck has got nothing to do with it man.

Oi true sorry to read what happen to you,
Hopefully your bike only needs minor touch ups

[UglyDogRacing]

The curse of Vellos is nothing more than the open invites for anyone to show up. When he gets tired of scraping noobs off the pavement he will start being selective with the invites as almost everyone eventually figures out.
If you will notice, if it isn't a super long ride, which usually weeds out the beginners, the experienced riders don't throw out open invites.
I rarely go on any posted rides as it always ends up with someone going down, it happened on the last one I was on a couple of weeks ago. It happened on the one before that.


You're still going on group rides?? :lol: My solo 8am jaunt to Woodland Park and back was nice.

[Ghost]

maybe not "ride your own ride", but how about "check your ego at the gas station"...the fastest rides I have been on are with the "old" people on their "old man" bikes, where people ride a smooth an comfortable pace, and you rarely see brake lights, not speed up to 100 on the straights to do 40 in a turn. people are either going to take it slow at first and learn the easy way, or learn the hard way...Darwin always gets his ;)


I don't mean to be defending new riders, but sometimes it's ego, and sometimes it's fear of being left behind, etc. Mostly it's just stupidity and inexperience.

Back when I first started riding, I used to ride with an ex-1970s racer, guy was the fastest no-brake rider I'd ever seen. He was sooo smooth and so deceptively fast it was unreal. I loved just following and watching him flow through the turns.

I kinda miss those guys, they knew their shit, they knew the roads, they knew their bikes and their limits and there was never any issue riding with any of them...it was just fun...as riding is supposed to be.

As to target-fixation, I did that once, probably 10 years ago now. Guy on an RC51 (brand new) went off and I, for whatever reason, was so fascinated watching his debris and dust cloud that I ended up going off-line and then off-road and low-siding on the soft shoulder. Not much damage to me or my bike, but I was definitely surprised and learned my lesson. Sucks when it catches you out though.

[Ghost]

You're still going on group rides?? :lol: My solo 8am jaunt to Woodland Park and back was nice.

and this is why I'm a "ghost" and ride mostly solo...the only person that can F up my ride is me...and while it can happen, and I can screw up, at least I'm not going to be taken out by someone else in my own group...

[CaptGoodvibes]

E gads! Maybe I'm better off riding solo all the time.

[Ghost]

E gads! Maybe I'm better off riding solo all the time.

Yeah, it can be fun, can be boring, and it's good up until the day the truck runs you off the road and no one even knows you're gone until 3 weeks later. ;)

[rangerup175]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle manipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.
Live fast die free...Ill be back
Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.

[CaptGoodvibes]

Yeah, it can be fun, can be boring, and it's good up until the day the truck runs you off the road and no one even knows you're gone until 3 weeks later. ;)

Yup, that's the reason I try to plan my route and stick to it. That way I can leave a map link for a few people. Lunch is the worst part of a solo ride.

[Ghost]

Yup, that's the reason I try to plan my route and stick to it. That way I can leave a map link for a few people. Lunch is the worst part of a solo ride.

Yeah, lunch in bug-covered leathers sitting by yourself isn't a real highlight.:lol:

Plus, if there's ever anything super-cool or super-Whatever, there's no one but you to witness it...but...meh, so it goes...

[Bueller]

You're still going on group rides?? :lol: My solo 8am jaunt to Woodland Park and back was nice.

The wife and I went out and had a great ride, we went so slow we held up lines of cars at times (sweet revenge). But just cruising through the canyons I could easily take at 2-3 times the speed but with our rider to rider comm. we just had a relaxing ride and I was able to talk her through a lot of technique and lines and everything else she had a question about, real time.
I am making a good riding partner :idea:

Group rides can be fun, but way too much shit goes on, I like the 2-4 bike groups at most.

[CaptGoodvibes]

Yeah, lunch in bug-covered leathers sitting by yourself isn't a real highlight.:lol:

Plus, if there's ever anything super-cool or super-Whatever, there's no one but you to witness it...but...meh, so it goes...

Hahaha! Seriously. :lol:

[MilkMan]

I'm one of the new members and fairly new to the canyon stuff as well. But I do appreciate you all letting me tag along! I'm sorry if I held anyone up durring the day, but I did try to just stay at the back for most of the day and go at my own pace. It was really nice to have people in front of me who were going moderatly quick to watch as well though so I would know where to be on the road as well as entrance and exit speeds. I'm one if those people who truly does take the "ride at your own pace" info to heart, I've gotten myself into some trouble in cars in the mountains before and don't want to ever repeat that on 2 wheels.. Again, thank you all for letting us new folks, including myself, ride with you guys. A lot of you are great riders and were pretty impressive to watch! Hope to make it out to more of these in the future and I'll still stay at the back so I'm not in your way!
-Mick-

[BC14]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle manipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.
Live fast die free...Ill be back
Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.

Noted... I'll make sure to avoid riding anywhere near you with that attitude.

[CaptGoodvibes]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle manipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.Live fast die free...Ill be back

Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.

Wow. Way to lay your shitty hand on the table. :wtf:

[salsashark]

I'm one of the new members and fairly new to the canyon stuff as well. But I do appreciate you all letting me tag along! I'm sorry if I held anyone up durring the day, but I did try to just stay at the back for most of the day and go at my own pace. It was really nice to have people in front of me who were going moderatly quick to watch as well though so I would know where to be on the road as well as entrance and exit speeds. I'm one if those people who truly does take the "ride at your own pace" info to heart, I've gotten myself into some trouble in cars in the mountains before and don't want to ever repeat that on 2 wheels.. Again, thank you all for letting us new folks, including myself, ride with you guys. A lot of you are great riders and were pretty impressive to watch! Hope to make it out to more of these in the future and I'll still stay at the back so I'm not in your way!
-Mick-

Never apologize for going your own pace.

Other then that, sounds like you're doing it right!

[Ted]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle manipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.
Live fast die free...Ill be back
Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/926495/eating-popcorn-o.gif

Seriously ????? Glad you are OK. I was at the scene later yesterday, and things could have ended up worse than the outcome. Ride safe man !

[OUTLAWD]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well.


Glad you are alright man...it didn't look so promising as it was going down...


Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something.

This is a pretty shitty way to look at things IMO. Putting a damper on everyone else's fun because you had to "ride to the max"...we were doing 65 tops in that section...and being that you "know it all", maybe your MotoGP race line involved a late apex on the far side of the white line, which then I can see how the sand is to blame.

Lastly, being at the front of yesterdays noob friendly group is not something to brag about really, hell, 2 of the fastest riders in the group were cruising in the back most of the ride, while you were "doing what you do"


anyway, back to my Oprah and grapes.

[BC14]

mmm, grapes are tasty. So is popcorn.

Unfortunately with this being the sport bike club, those types of mentalities are ever present. Can't change the way they ride, as they "know it all" already from watching youtube.

[Bueller]

Noted... I'll make sure to avoid riding anywhere near you with that attitude.
+1
Indeed, please post your intentions to attend any rides in the future so us less "extreme" riders don't show up to get schooled.

[OUTLAWD]

we need to start CSTC then...CO Sport Touring Club ;)

[BC14]

we need to start CSTC then...CO Sport Touring Club ;)
Totally.. Baggers only... :D

[OUTLAWD]

this comes to mind for some reason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jj4ftAuFyg

[Snowman]

rangerup175, your organ donation will be greatly appreciated...

[BC14]

rangerup175, your organ donation will be greatly appreciated...
If there are any organs left....................

[salsashark]

Totally.. Baggers only... :D

Sign me up! Ride minimums are 400 miles.

[NUTZ]

Totally.. Baggers only... :D

Damn you! :devil2:

[SloBlue]

Moco @ 10 GTFO 10:30. Going to Estes. :shock:

I was really on the fence about heading down to go on this ride, mostly because I just wanted to meet the "Seinfeld" of the CSC, the man that, with one incomplete sentence, can start a 10 page thread about nothing, Vellos. :lol:

[Zach929rr]

I would have been upright like a giant penis
You were.


Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something.The cost to being good at motorcycling is either a lot of time or money for track time, not valiantly throwing your bike into a ditch and not giving a fuck.


I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride.We were dressed for the crash, not the ride.


Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/000/346/969638-cool_story__bro_super.jpg?1244744838


You guys think its young errogance

Which your post confirmed.



I'm one if those people who truly does take the "ride at your own pace" info to heart

Doing it rite

[mtnairlover]

Totally.. Baggers only... :D

Hey now! Nakeds aren't allowed? Darn!

[NUTZ]

Hey now! Nakeds aren't allowed? Darn!

+1

[Vellos]

http://images.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-09-Psych.gif

Thanks for sweeping Nutz.

[OUTLAWD]

mine is also naked and sans bags now...

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Yeah, lunch in bug-covered leathers sitting by yourself isn't a real highlight.

Plus, if there's ever anything super-cool or super-Whatever, there's no one but you to witness it...but...meh, so it goes...
The best rides I've ever done were my solo trips last summer, of 1,800 and 1,000 miles respectively. As far as the "bug-covered leathers" thing, I didn't mind it at all. I think people looked at me and my bug-covered bike and immediately thought: "This guy actually RIDES that thing.". It was funny, I was heading thru Zion and had just gotten thru the crazy tunnel there, and came across a bunch of Hardley guys. I parked a couple bike lengths away, and was busy taking some more pics, when one of 'em came up and started complimenting my on what good shape it was in, and what year was it. So, I ended up talking with them for a little while, and even took a pic or 2 with 'em. Their bikes were all nice and shiny, with few if any bug splats on 'em (looked like they'd gone maybe 20 miles max). They saw my condition after almost 600 miles that day, and asked me how many miles I had done. I told 'em almost 1,100 since the morning before, and almost 600 that day. They were (easily) amazed. So, being be-splattered don't bother me much. ;)

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Lastly, being at the front of yesterdays noob friendly group is not something to brag about really.
....like getting a Gold Medal in the Special Olympics........:lol:

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Totally.. Baggers only... :D
I'm a Tea-Bagger, that count? :)

[grim]

I'm a Tea-Bagger, that count? :)


on the receiving end....wait don't answer that.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

on the receiving end....wait don't answer that.
Actually, I meant politics. For the other, it's better to be the teabagger than the teabaggee. ;) Besides, I'm more of a "Potato-Sacker".......:lol:

[grim]

Actually, I meant politics. For the other, it's better to be the teabagger than the teabaggee. ;) Besides, I'm more of a "Potato-Sacker".......:lol:

nice save

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

nice save
Always.....:p

[OUTLAWD]

unlike my save yesterday....


oooo...too soon?

[BC14]

Hey now! Nakeds aren't allowed? Darn!
I can make a few exceptions, on a case by case basis :p

[grim]

unlike my save yesterday....


oooo...too soon?

HA if someone laughs it's never too soon.

[Geology Rocks]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle manipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.
Live fast die free...Ill be back
Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.

attitudes like that are why I have been on 1 CSC ride in my years of being on this board. You now whats funny? I read your post and thought to myself..."I bet this guy is an Army Airborne Ranger." It wasnt till I scrolled down and saw your member name and I started laughing. Thanks for your service and with an attitude like yours you give other Rangers a bad name.

I was in the same parking lot in the AM, saw all you guys, I have bags, and I enjoyed my ride at the speed limit nicely thank you very much. :D

[bornwildnfree]

Man oh man just checked the bike out in the garage sad day indeed. No damage to me though so all is well. For the record I do know what im doing on my bike...probly the reason no one was in my rear view and me and vellos where just crusing along. You dont keep up with people by blind luck if you have never done it before. Body positoon, throttle mangipultation, engine stopping I know it all..I am no pro not by a long shot but I wouldnt be up there if I didnt know how to do those things. I would have been upright like a giant penis wondering why my bike doesnt turn. Everyone makes mistakes. I took a turn to wide hit the dirt and went splat. It is what it is. Pro's on bikes, cars w/e wreck everyday. Thats how I ride, to the max and if I go down then so be it but its the cost I take to be good at something. I jump out of planes and get shot at for a living so dropping a bike isnt really a big deal as long as no one else gets hurt. As far as gear goes its a personal choice, I can wear a thousand dollar set of leathers and fly of a cliff and be the best rider in the world. Or ride naked and make it unmarked. I simply made the underdressed comment bc it looked like everyone came to a race not a ride. You guys think its young errogance, well im 28 not 21 and have been in way worse situations than that of a canyon ride. As soon as I get my new bike i will be right back out there and right back in the front doing what I do...and If you dont want to ride with me then stay in the back and play it safe. Its not who I am. If I make it all day and go home Im a "good" rider for keeping up with the ppl in front...but bc a simple mistake and a lay down im a "noob" and 20 something hero. Anyway, everyone has there own opinion, not looking to bash anyone here. Id rather die at 190 with my balls out than choke on a grape watching oprah on the couch.
Live fast die free...Ill be back
Side note it was one of the best runs ive been on. Beats the shit out of flat georgia roads dodging aligators and mequitos. Thanks for putting it together. Glad other dude is ok.
Wow...so having lunasgixxer flashbacks. Apparently you still have a lot to prove to the world. Bummer.

[CHRISTIAN COWBOY]

I enjoyed riding with everyone and rode my own pace and ended up in the back, but had lots of fun. Look forward to joining up again, Rangerup 175 and David,, hope all is well, see you on the rode again.

[Matty]

I enjoyed riding with everyone and rode my own pace and ended up in the back, but had lots of fun. Look forward to joining up again, Rangerup 175 and David,, hope all is well, see you on the rode again.
:imwithstupid: except for the being in the back part!!!

[Geology Rocks]

:imwithstupid: except for the being in the back part!!!


better than getting it in the "back" side.

joe

[Swift]

Outlawd, I'm sorry to hear about your mishap following Ranger's accident. I hope to ride with you again soon. You, the fellow on the 675, and I were keeping a pretty good pace together going towards Nederland.

Ranger. Chalk it up as a learning experience. You may be back again, but how you ride from this point forward determines how long you will stay shiny side up. I've had many crashes from riding in the dirt, thankfully none on the street. That is primarily down to the fact that I know my limits, especially on a tired old boxer twin BMW that's seen more miles than most of the sport bikes here. Don't ever ride with the mentality that you won't crash. I always ride with the thought that I can crash at any moment. That fear keeps me from riding foolishly or beyond my limits. I know at some point or another its very possible that I will eventually eat pavement, but as long as I continue to ride like anything can happen and to be cautious of that, my chances of a crash will be less likely.

[Matty]

better than getting it in the "back" side.

joe

Hahaha... Very true!!!!

[grim]

Outlawd, I'm sorry to hear about your mishap following Ranger's accident. I hope to ride with you again soon. You, the fellow on the 675, and I were keeping a pretty good pace together going towards Nederland.

Ranger. Chalk it up as a learning experience. You may be back again, but how you ride from this point forward determines how long you will stay shiny side up. I've had many crashes from riding in the dirt, thankfully none on the street. That is primarily down to the fact that I know my limits, especially on a tired old boxer twin BMW that's seen more miles than most of the sport bikes here. Don't ever ride with the mentality that you won't crash. I always ride with the thought that I can crash at any moment. That fear keeps me from riding foolishly or beyond my limits. I know at some point or another its very possible that I will eventually eat pavement, but as long as I continue to ride like anything can happen and to be cautious of that, my chances of a crash will be less likely.


And remember to bring your sticks with you when you ride in boulder!

[skiteacher]

Outlawd, real bummer about the bags. I enjoyed chasing you up to Central City.

Swift, that Bemmer gets along just fine down the road. I'm the guy on the 675.

[vort3xr6]

Dave, sorry to hear you went down.

From a racers perspective, this thread is pretty pathetic. I can count on one hand the number of people on this board who I actually consider competent riders.

Riding your own ride has nothing to do with actually learning how to ride. Bragging about dragging toe sliders is a prime example. I can drag toe sliders at 15 mph in a parking lot with terrible body position.

[CaptGoodvibes]

Haha! Yeah, but Stoner questions Rossi's abilities so...

As a non-racer, I think there are a lot of competent riders in this club. But there are a lot of young guys trying to claim a piece of the Savannah also and they are bound to falter. I really don't care if they do unless they cause me or my friends or anyone else to crash, which happened on the ride in question.

[BlueRanger]

Well you can't blame him for anyone else going down in this case, in my opinion. I didn't blame anyone for when I went down cause "I was distracted" by the plume of dust lol and pieces flying everywhere. No one but you is controlling your bike. If he was directly responsible (crashing into etc.) then yeah. Glad everyone was ok.

Oh yeah I should explain myself before anyone starts thinking I've changed my story (has nothing to do with this ride, I didn't even go) lol. People I'm talking to know what I'm talking about. I initially was distracted while in the corner, but I made the commitment to go off the road when I saw the accident (just not that hard, wasn't expecting the rocks). So no I'm not changing my story to I missed the turn cause I target fixated, just saying haha.

[BC14]

:horse:

[CaptGoodvibes]

yeah, I'm just blathering anyway

[brennahm]

Whatever B-Rad, you can't ride either. :)

[Spooph]

Seriously, who needs Fox prime time? This shit is gold!

Vellos, host more rides!

[grim]

Seriously, who needs Fox prime time? This shit is gold!

Vellos, host more rides!

WTF is fox primetime?

[Spooph]

Holy shit Grim, how old are you?

I think I just felt old for the first time in my life...

You know... the TV channel... Fox... and prime time... right around dinner time... like, 6-8pm... prime time... supposedly the best shows the network has to offer?

[grim]

Holy shit Grim, how old are you?

I think I just felt old for the first time in my life...

You know... the TV channel... Fox... and prime time... right around dinner time... like, 6-8pm... prime time... supposedly the best shows the network has to offer?

(sarcasm)

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Bragging about dragging toe sliders is a prime example. I can drag toe sliders at 15 mph in a parking lot with terrible body position.
I didn't see any bragging, but maybe I missed it?

[vort3xr6]

I didn't see any bragging, but maybe I missed it?

Wasn't referring to you. But it's a comment I have heard in general on this board.

[OUTLAWD]

Capt., there are no hard feelings on my end, we all acknowledge and accept the inherent risks of riding these 2 wheeled contraptions when we hit the road...the risk here was riding in an unfamiliar group, where one must be prepared to react to unexpected situations, I came underprepared.

Swift, I am glad I wasn't holding you guys up ;) I'm def looking forward to riding with you guys again soon

[CaptGoodvibes]

Dave, I think it was my post. Didn't mean to step across the line.

[BadR6Man]

Holy bat wrecks batman!!! Is this thread serious?? This whole I am faster than you BS is stupid ranger. I just hope that both of you involved have learned from the mistakes you made. Ranger, take it to the track and I will show you how slow you are and that there is much more you can learn. And Dave, sorry you had to learn that you can't trust anyone on street rides.

[Swift]

Swift, I am glad I wasn't holding you guys up ;) I'm def looking forward to riding with you guys again soon
I was keeping up probably on the edge of what I deemed to be safe so you were fine bro.

[OUTLAWD]

Ranger, take it to the track and I will show you how slow you are and that there is much more you can learn.

:spit:

I can only say that I will be more selective in the company I keep from here on out. ;)