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Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 01:07 PM
Though you might get a kick outta this..


In one fell swoop last week, the Obama Administration essentially suspended deportations of illegal immigrants who aren't dangerous felons.

It was widely reported last week that the Obama Administration used executive fiat to pass the DREAM ACT, which allows illegal immigrants brought here as children to stay. But the administration actually went much further than that. An Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) memo virtually decreed that it is now immigration enforcement policy in this country not to deport anyone except those with violent criminal histories. And even those with criminal histories may be eligible for a pass on deportation because their histories will be considered on a case by case basis, according to the memo.

In it, ICE Director John Morton suggests immigration enforcement officers and courts should exercise "prosecutorial discretion" when considering deportation arrests or proceedings if illegals meet any one of about two dozen criteria. Just about every illegal immigrant in the county would fall under at least one of the criteria.

For instance, the memo suggests that living here a long time should be considered as grounds for ending deportation proceedings. The memo incentivizes illegals to put down roots in their communities and rewards them for it. If they create community ties by joining a church or other groups, if they take a job from an American and develop a record of holding it, it can help them avoid deportation.

If they have other family members living here, illegal or not, they can also get a pass on deportation. Got a cousin who served in the military? Any family member will do. Military service of a family member is another way to avoid deportation and should be considered in deportation legal proceedings, according to the memo.

In a press release this week, Chris Crane, President of the National ICE Council, which represents approximately 7,000 ICE agents and officers, said that ICE worked hand-in-hand with immigrants rights groups to develop the new enforcement policies and that they are a "law enforcement nightmare" that is "a means for every person here illegally to avoid arrest or detention."

"Any American concerned about immigration needs to brace themselves for what's coming," said Crane. "This is just one of many new ICE policies in queue aimed at stopping the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws in the United States. As officers we will never know who we can or cannot arrest."

The new policy of lawlessness for the privileged illegal immigrant criminal class was on full display last week as illegal immigrants openly took part in a Senate hearing on the DREAM Act with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the country's top immigration officer, sitting on front row.

As Human Events reported, Napolitano actually went so far as to tell the subcommittee that although those gathered were part of the population that is subject to deportation, there would be no enforcement of the law that morning. Earlier in the week, when asked in another hearing if a drunk driving conviction would keep an illegal alien from getting amnesty under the DREAM Act, she wouldn't answer the question.

salsashark
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 01:21 PM
The building just shook... I think it was a shock wave from Frank's head exploding.

:nuke:

Filo
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 01:30 PM
In before the lock.


Frank, make sure to take your blood pressure meds today, OK?

Ghost
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 01:58 PM
There a link to the original article?

Snowman
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Spot poking the monkey...

DFab
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:32 PM
There a link to the original article?

It's pretty obvious that it comes from some sort of 'we hate illegals' website or blog, not a legitimate news organization. Take it with a bag of salt.

MetaLord 9
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:42 PM
IBTCM.

Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:46 PM
It's pretty obvious that it comes from some sort of 'we hate illegals' website or blog, not a legitimate news organization. Take it with a bag of salt.

http://www.iceunion.org/download/283-284-mortons-prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf

Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:47 PM
http://www.iceunion.org/download/286-287-press-release-pd-memo.pdf




"Any American concerned about immigration needs to brace themselves for what’s coming," said Chris Crane, President of the National ICE Council which represents approximately 7,000 ICE agents, officers and employees," this is just one of many new ICE policies in queue aimed at stopping the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws in the United States. Unable to pass its immigration agenda through legislation, the Administration is now implementing it through agency policy."


:D


How legitimate is ICE? How many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie pop? The world may never know.

Filo
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Actually, I think the original ARTICLE is here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/ice_memo_reveals_new_obama_administration_plan_to_ incentivize_illegal_immigrants.html

Your ICE Union reference is the union's response to the directive that is cited in the article.

I think American Thinker falls pretty far to the right on the political spectrum.

Snowman
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Actually, I think the original ARTICLE is here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/ice_memo_reveals_new_obama_administration_plan_to_ incentivize_illegal_immigrants.html

Your ICE Union reference is the union's response to the directive that is cited in the article.

I think American Thinker falls pretty far to the right on the political spectrum.So you're saying Frank may have already gotten their newsletter?

Sean
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Please don't feed the animals. Thank you.

Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Actually, I think the original ARTICLE is here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/ice_memo_reveals_new_obama_administration_plan_to_ incentivize_illegal_immigrants.html

Your ICE Union reference is the union's response to the directive that is cited in the article.

I think American Thinker falls pretty far to the right on the political spectrum.

GASP! Nooo...

Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Please don't feed the animals. Thank you.

You're right. We need more dull threads that end after .5 pages.

The Black Knight
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:28 PM
IBTL!!!

and when C_M heard this news

18393

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Sorry I haven't responded sooner guys, I was cleaning and loading rounds for my Barrett and getting all the claymores ready........ :)

When I finish my electrical work today, I'll give those articles a look.

Interesting that they say that if a criminal has been committing a crime for a long time, that makes it ok. Hmmmmm, maybe we should give meth labs that have been operating continually for years a pass too?:roll:

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:30 PM
http://www.iceunion.org/download/286-287-press-release-pd-memo.pdf



:D


How legitimate is ICE? How many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie pop? The world may never know.
WooHoo! Way to circumvent due process and the enforcement of federal laws already on the books ObaMao!

grim
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Sorry I haven't responded sooner guys, I was cleaning and loading rounds for my Barrett, loading my rocket launcher, boarding my house up, and getting all the claymores ready........ :)

When I finish getting the codes to arm my nuclear warheads I'll give those articles a look

fixed

DFab
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 04:35 PM
http://www.iceunion.org/download/286-287-press-release-pd-memo.pdf



:D


How legitimate is ICE? How many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie pop? The world may never know.

ICE Union != ICE

ICE Union claims to represent "7,600 bargaining unit employees" whatever the fuck that means, and claims 2,300 members. I would also take both numbers with a bag of salt as these type of organizations like to inflate their membership numbers. Total number of ICE employees is over 20,000. I think a fair description of the ICE Union would be a small group of people who at some point have been associated with ICE that hate illegal immigrants and the Obama administration.

Here is the original memo. You should read it.
http://www.iceunion.org/download/283-284-mortons-prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf

It seems quite reasonable to me. ICE doesn't have the resources to deport every illegal they come across, so they have to prioritize who gets deported using prosecutorial discretion. For example, if someones legal residency recently expired and they've been here legally for a long time, they can be given a low priority for deportation.

Here's an important bit:

As there is no right to the favorable exercise of discretion by the agency, nothing in this
memorandum should be construed to prohibit the apprehension, detention, or removal of any
alien unlawfully in the United States or to limit the legal authority of ICE or any of its personnel
to enforce federal immigration law. Similarly, this memorandum, which may be modified,
superseded, or rescinded at any time without notice, is not intended to, does not, and may not be
relied upon to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable a t law by any
party in any administrative, civil, or criminal matter.

Vellos
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 04:48 PM
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Canuck
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 05:17 PM
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One hands in the trigger. The other is flippin the switches, while I watch you Bitches...

Spiderman
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 05:34 PM
One hands in the trigger. The other is flippin the switches, while I watch you Bitches...

:lol: You're a poet and you didn't even know it!

brennahm
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 05:47 PM
ICE Union != ICE

ICE Union claims to represent "7,600 bargaining unit employees" whatever the fuck that means, and claims 2,300 members. I would also take both numbers with a bag of salt as these type of organizations like to inflate their membership numbers. Total number of ICE employees is over 20,000. I think a fair description of the ICE Union would be a small group of people who at some point have been associated with ICE that hate illegal immigrants and the Obama administration.

Here is the original memo. You should read it.
http://www.iceunion.org/download/283-284-mortons-prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf

It seems quite reasonable to me. ICE doesn't have the resources to deport every illegal they come across, so they have to prioritize who gets deported using prosecutorial discretion. For example, if someones legal residency recently expired and they've been here legally for a long time, they can be given a low priority for deportation.

Here's an important bit:

Surely you aren't trying to suggest that this memo was some sort of attempt by part of the government to allocate resources to best serve the people are you? HERESY! But Obama did it! It must be bad!

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 06:19 PM
:lol: You're a poet and you didn't even know it!
Nah, he's just a Canuck who don't give a fuck!:lol:

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM
Just finished, Haven't gottento the articles yet, but ran across this:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-asks-stay-execution-texas-165829939.html

Hey, he's not an Illegal Alien, he's an Undocumented Democrat! :)

Keyser Soze
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 10:56 PM
One hands in the trigger. The other is flippin the switches, while I watch you Bitches...

Nigga please! What's wrong with a few threads of spewing bullshit? This site is pretty pussy compared to others out there. I think it's pretty entertaining reading others opinions and arguments. It is a general discussion forum after all...

~Barn~
Wed Jul 6th, 2011, 11:13 PM
One hands in the trigger. The other is flippin the switches, while I watch you Bitches...


:lol: You're a poet and you didn't even know it!

Ha! He could have been in Malibu's Most Wanted, and we probably didn't even know it!

CYCLE_MONKEY
Thu Jul 7th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Nigga please! What's wrong with a few threads of spewing bullshit? This site is pretty pussy compared to others out there. I think it's pretty entertaining reading others opinions and arguments. It is a general discussion forum after all...
Well, they don't have Freedom of Speech up in Kanada like we do here, so..... :)