Ride: Saturday July 16, 2011

[Clovis]

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Hey SoCO,

I'll be hosting a CSC ride for Saturday - July 16th, 2011.

This ride: Colorado Springs to Evergreen.

The route

http://mapq.st/ohcHwX

This is a 200 mile round trip variation of the classic Colorado Springs to Evergreen route. It features great Colorado twisty roads and scenery.

Expect to be out with us from 8 AM to 3 PM.

Times

Morning meet location: Hwy 24 & 8th Street Acorn gas station.
8:30 AM.
Introductions, map hand out, route and stopping points covered, pep talk.

Gas up as the next fuel stop is 100 miles from here.

Leave promptly at 9:00 AM.

Contact Info - Clovis: 719-201-9383

PLEASE NOTE:If you would like to help in the ride, please let me know. Generally speaking each ride needs a leader in the front and a sweeper in the rear.

I've planned the details but I'm fine in any position. CSC club rides are about having a good time, not egos. If you're of the faster crowd and comfortable leading, please send me a PM.

Typically 6-10 riders will come and we'll naturally split into groups of fast and intermediate.

Also, if you happen to have a Scala Rider set up, this is a HUGE plus in general, regardless of riding position.

Link to a review on the Scala Rider communication system:

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40938

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We'll make a pit stop at the Deckers general store (aka "Deckers"). for about 20 minutes to rest, drink, take some pictures. Bring CASH, they didn't accept debt/credit cards last time I was there.

Continue on Hwy 67 to 285 -- take 285 to Turkey Creek Road. This is a twisty road to Evergreen.

Stop for lunch at Beau Jo's pizza in Evergreen. More pictures.

The route home is the reverse of the way we came. We should have you back home by 3:00 PM

Ride rules and requirements

I don't like to be a ride Nazi but this comes from experience. The safety and enjoyment of the group is my priority.

1) You and your bike must be LEGAL.

This means that your tags are current, you carry proof of insurance and you possess a VALID driver's license.

We don't want one of these:

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39890&highlight=luna

2) Gear:

Full leathers is always encouraged but not required. You do need to have the basics though (Helmet, Jacket, Gloves, boots). How much you like your body is up to you.

However, if you show up in a tank top and shorts I will assume you are a squid and are suicidal. I'll ask you to catch us on the next ride with the proper equipment.

3) Rules:

Ride safely and courteously.

We'll be using the ever famous "Pace". If you're not familiar with "The Pace", it means riding at a spirited but consistent speed throughout the route. Here is a link:

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40

Remember - when you are riding, you are the public face of the CSC and sport bikes in general. If you ride like an ass hat, then our rides aren't for you.

I'll cover this more in the morning pep talk.

If you're planning on attending, please reply in this thread. Also, I can be reached on my cell at 719-201-9383 if you're running late the morning of the ride (or get lost somewhere along the way).

Estimated cost

$25-30 for a full fuel tank and lunch.

Questions??

Please reply to this thread.

See you Saturday July 16th!

-Clovis

[matt2778]

What turn is the cop gonna be at?

[Aaron]

I should be able to make it, just worried I won't keep up. Shed any light?

[Clovis]

THAT one! :)


What turn is the cop gonna be at?

[Clovis]

You should be fine. We always wait at the next turn off and have an experienced rider running sweep.

[konaman]

I am interested in the ride, but the whole asking for my ID and TAKING a picture of it is out of the question. I have ridden with a few riders on CSC and this is the first time I have ever heard of taking a picture of someone's identification. Especially the way the world is dealing with ID fraud/ theft I find it a little ridiculous for someone to try and take a picture of another person ID whom they do not know. IF this is a problem then I will not be on this ride, although, I would like to go. And on that note, I am in the military and I can promise that all of my ID, insurance, and registration are up to date and get checked all the time.

[Aaron]

Sounds good, I'll try to join ya'll then. I'm pretty sure the sweep rider will be sleeping after every turn off! I'm afraid to lean my bike too far, it was far too much work to paint.

There is not a single piece of information on your ID that risks your identity of being stolen.

[Clovis]

You'll be fine then.

What I want to avoid is this:

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39890&highlight=luna

[Aaron]

Trust me that won't happen to me! Because the cop would get bored of such a slowass pursuit and give up.

[konaman]

I just read that whole post, and while the rider in question did not make the best decision who is to say that even if his bike was registered and he was licsenced that he still would not have ran. That is honestly what some people just do, I have been on a few CSC rides where we passed a trooper and while we technically did not run, we definitely did not stop. The fact that the rider ran and that type of riding is not welcomed on any of the CSC rides, does not constitute letting a stranger take a photo of anyone's ID. Just my thoughts on the matter.

[Clovis]

I'm not a stranger, we just met on the internets. Now get in the van!

You make a compelling argument, I'll relent that requirement.

[konaman]

hahah, I will plan on being there and I may bring one or two with me possibly.

[Drift]

We've had what seems like a large number of accidents this year (I can't compare to last year because of the server crash). So, I have some suggestions.

If you post a ride:
1. Realize you are responsible for the group. Don't just take off and go nuts. You need to lead the group and make decisions that are smart for the group. If you want to have a fun ride and do what ever you want, go with one or two of your buddies. Group rides have very different dynamics and responsibilities.
2. Put the date in the title of the thread
3. Put what type of ride you're going to have in the thread whether it be a nice easy ride or a spirited ride through the canyons.
4. When you meet up with the people, have a discussion about expectations about passing, speed, skill level etc.
5. Let people know that you will wait for them at stopping points and they don't need to keep up. If you are not planning on waiting for folks at stopping points, please put that in the thread.
6. Have a safety talk before you go
7. If it's a larger group, assign a sweeper so that no one gets left really far behind.

If you go on a posted ride:
1. Ask questions about the style of ride when you get to the meet up. If it's not the ride for you, PM me and I'll happily go riding with you.
2. Know your limits!

For everyone...I'll say it once and I'll keep saying it forever...RIDE YOUR OWN RIDE. The road is not the track and and not riding to your level and above a certain level of ego in this sport will probably get you injured or killed (If not, you are very very lucky). If you feel like you are going too fast, you are. SLOW DOWN. Speed does not mean skill. You can not build skill riding at 100%. You can only build skill riding at 70 or 80%. Speed will come, but you will never be able to go as fast on the open road as you do on the track. If you feel like you are running at 100% just to keep up, you don't have the skills to keep up and that's when accidents happen.

Please read the above "quote" from another thread...good info.

Ciao,
Drift

[bornwildnfree]

I am interested in the ride, but the whole asking for my ID and TAKING a picture of it is out of the question. I have ridden with a few riders on CSC and this is the first time I have ever heard of taking a picture of someone's identification. Especially the way the world is dealing with ID fraud/ theft I find it a little ridiculous for someone to try and take a picture of another person ID whom they do not know. IF this is a problem then I will not be on this ride, although, I would like to go. And on that note, I am in the military and I can promise that all of my ID, insurance, and registration are up to date and get checked all the time.


I don't think he's saying he'll take a picture of your ID, he's just saying be legal so we have one less problem with the cops.

I'm in, and I'll sweep until Evergreen, then I'm going to split off and go home.

[Zach929rr]

Were you really requesting taking a picture of someone's ID?

Jesus fucking christ get over yourself.

[bornwildnfree]

Were you really requesting taking a picture of someone's ID?

Jesus fucking christ get over yourself.
No, he wasn't, it's not mentioned in the original post. I think he was misunderstood.

[Zach929rr]

Its not there because he removed it per post #11.

Still fucking ridiculous.

[Ninja2]

Might ride with you going north and then slplit to go to Morisson for the 15th Annual Biergarten Festival in Morisson, sponsored by the German American Chamber of Commerce. Yes, I'm here legally. :silly: Cheers!:cheers:

[bornwildnfree]

Its not there because he removed it per post #11.

Still fucking ridiculous.

Ah, yea really excessive and not something I would ever agree too or support. There's being safe and going waaaayyy over the top.

The only reason Luna got in trouble is because he did something that stupid on an official CSC ride for new riders and new members. If he were to pull that on some random posted ride, wouldn't have had the same reaction. I would have just shaken my head and called him a dumbass.

[Drift]

I'm in, and I'll sweep until Evergreen, then I'm going to split off and go home.

I was also thinking of riding sweep...if you would like company on the northbound portion.

[bornwildnfree]

I was also thinking of riding sweep...if you would like company on the northbound portion.

SWEET!!!

[Tykho]

Myself and a good friend of mine would like to come, not 100% yet, but think we can make it. Always a nice route to take.

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

I wanna come to this one! I got all my stuff and in the military too for another month. LOL
ID's, MSF Card, Insurance, registration, the whole nine yards. Yup!
I wanna ride and live it up! I dont wanna speed to much cause I love my baby. Those sand gravel's are evil!!! :-p

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

I was also thinking of riding sweep...if you would like company on the northbound portion.

I dont wanna speed, can I join with this group? I wanna enjoy and cruise around with y'all :-)

[Brat]

I dont wanna speed, can I join with this group? I wanna enjoy and cruise around with y'all :-)
ride at your pace, im sure theyll wait. everyone wants to make sure everyone gets there safe is the point i think they are trying to convey.

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

ride at your pace, im sure theyll wait. everyone wants to make sure everyone gets there safe is the point i think they are trying to convey.

Im not that slow, I just wanna enjoy the riding this time. lol
There's too much sand gravel in this state, oh my..:banghead:
I can be either in the middle of the grp or with the sweeper crew. :w00t:

[konaman]

When he first posted about taking pics of everyone's ID we talked it out and he removed it from the post. It's all good, we talked it out and I understand his reasoning about it, I just would never agree to that. But it's not an issue anymore. I will be on this ride, I haven't been out and about in some time now.

[Clovis]

Just to re-iterate, there won't be an ID check on this ride. Good intentions and logical reasoning behind but decided just not the best way to discourage deviant behavior.

Most everyone that I've ridden with on the CSC have been great - 100% of the regular riders. The bad apples are fairly far and in between. Not to mention they don't last long with this group.

Kat: If Drift is coming on this ride (and I hope he is) and he decides to ride sweep and you'll be in very capable hands. If you're not familiar, the sweeper hangs in the back to make sure that no one gets too far behind and also to act as a first responder in the event of a crash or mechanical problems. The sweeper is not the slowest rider, far from it - they're an experienced rider.

You wouldn't knew it from his bike (a ninja 250) but Matt is actually one of the faster CSC'ers. This guy has ridden all over Europe and even the Isle of Man. In my first season of riding Drift was always right there, making sure noobies like myself didn't get lost or disappear into the brush.

I guess what I'm saying is... Drift... I love you. :applause::applause::applause:

[d3spair]

Clovis I've personally seen you do some stupid shit on rides lol, you still live down in Fountain?

[Clovis]

It puts the walkie talkie to its eye or else it gets the launch again!!

Hey, I didn't say I was perfect :)

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

I just wanna ride with everybody, with exception of the rider who doesn't have his gear and the whole id/insurance etc. I'd be ecstatic to ride with an experienced rider. Yup, sweep is fine by me and I aint slow either. Lol
I'm concerned with sand gravel, tar snakes, darn construction sites and stupid drivers. I need a paintball pistol! Haha

[Drift]

I just wanna ride with everybody, with exception of the rider who doesn't have his gear and the whole id/insurance etc. I'd be ecstatic to ride with an experienced rider. Yup, sweep is fine by me and I aint slow either. Lol
I'm concerned with sand gravel, tar snakes, darn construction sites and stupid drivers. I need a paintball pistol! Haha

Come on out!

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

ride at your pace, im sure theyll wait. everyone wants to make sure everyone gets there safe is the point i think they are trying to convey.

You coming too I hope?

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

Come on out!

Oh, I am for sure!
I wanna meet more riders here in town!
The more experienced ones I know, the better. :w00t:

[madvlad]

I may ride from littleton to meet you guys there and ride up, should very good weather. Hope this rain just quits 100%

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

I may ride from littleton to meet you guys there and ride up, should very good weather. Hope this rain just quits 100%

I agree, cause that would suck!

[Zach929rr]

Hope this rain just quits 100%

I don't. Best rain the state has seen in years and the only reason our entire state isn't on fire right now.

[madvlad]

I agree, cause that would suck!

Yea, rain is not horrible and I'll ride it out but just doesn't make the ride fun lol

[madvlad]

I don't. Best rain the state has seen in years and the only reason our entire state isn't on fire right now.

In that sense yes of course and no water shortages for lawn or nothing but it'd be nice to get a single dry day to just ride lol

[Clovis]

I love the rain, as long as its at the end on the way home :) It's nice to from 95 degrees down to 65-70.

The road is in great condition. I did this route last weekend (except to Evergreen - I went as far as Pine from Colorado Springs). The road was almost entirely free of sand/gravel (another benefit of the rain). The tar snakes are on 67 just before Deckers gets fun and only last for about a mile.

The "new section" of road (its 5-6 years old now) is still in excellent shape. I didn't notice any significant damage or tar snakes. Horse power Hill (hw 126) is actually in better shape now then it was last year).

[Clovis]

You just have to start early :) It usually doesn't start to rain until 2pm or later.


In that sense yes of course and no water shortages for lawn or nothing but it'd be nice to get a single dry day to just ride lol

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

Yea, rain is not horrible and I'll ride it out but just doesn't make the ride fun lol


Oh, I believe you. It is a torture to ride in a rain especially when hale hits you. I keep saying.. 'ouch, ouch, yyyeeaahh that's gotta leave a mark, ugggggh". lmao
:banghead:

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

You just have to start early :) It usually doesn't start to rain until 2pm or later.

I second that! Me likey!

[madvlad]

Yea hail sucks for sure, 3 times caught in that and hope not any time soon lol... yea early rides are the best for sure. Grim, zach and I did a 5 am run and it was awesome... well almost 5:30 thanks to me actually lol

[Clovis]

And btw, you don't even feel rain with full leathers :)

Jeans on the other hand, its like a thousand needles!

I worry about loss of traction in the rain or hydroplaning (which is really just the same thing). Hydroplaning down I-25 unexpectidly will pucker you up real quick.

If it gets really bad (like the ride to the pre Firecracker 500 bike night) - just pull over under a bridge over pass and wait for the storm to pass (15 minutes, 20 tops).

[madvlad]

I don't ride crazy or fast enough to justify $800+ on full leathers. If I did occasional track riding and such then yea... when I got caught in those storms I was still newish to riding and my newbish mind thought getting away faster will do the trick and boy was I wrong lol... definitely know better now haha.

[d3spair]

I don't ride crazy or fast enough to justify $800+ on full leathers. If I did occasional track riding and such then yea... when I got caught in those storms I was still newish to riding and my newbish mind thought getting away faster will do the trick and boy was I wrong lol... definitely know better now haha.

You'll change your mind after you crash, trust me.

[madvlad]

I've already been down and like I said, I'm not the nut job/crazy type rider. I commute and just enjoy the ride, not a slow noob rider by any means but don't take chances I don't need to take mainly being undergeared. I will always ride with my helmet, gloves, jacket and boots (yes I wear tennis shoes when I ride occasionally).

[Brat]

Clovis I've personally seen you do some stupid shit on rides lol, you still live down in Fountain?
what aboot his "quarter mile at a time" days. lol. story for school. lol.
kat i ride alot during the week. and fish on the weekends. i usually hit a few rides a week depending on the damn rain. besides clovis is too slow.

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

what aboot his "quarter mile at a time" days. lol. story for school. lol.
kat i ride alot during the week. and fish on the weekends. i usually hit a few rides a week depending on the damn rain. besides clovis is too slow.

Ohhh! Please let me know when you ride during the week?
8)

[madvlad]

Eh guilty as charged lol I've done my fair share of dumb crap... not proud of it but certainly learned my lesson

[Achupernt]

Im down for the ride. More than likely I will be 2 up. So not looking to come in first place. Just saying.

[CaneZach]

Count me as a maybe, depending on how my other ride shapes up. If my other ride is a go, I'll back out. If not, I'll ride with y'all and maybe sweep with Drift.

ETA: I realize this ride is on Saturday and it's only Tuesday, but I just got this email from the Douglas County Director of Emergency Management. "He wanted to advise that he had received notice of the potential for heavy rain, flooding and mudslides today in the area from Woodland Park to Deckers. If the rain keeps up during the week, expect a pretty dirty roadway on Saturday."

[Cjake39]

Let's see if the R6 is healthy by then...

[Ninja2]

Sorry, my plans have changed. I won't make this one. I'll try next time. Have fun and be safe!

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

Come on out!


I'll ride with you Drift cause from what I see its going to rain. I'll be in the end just cruisin down the road. :up::bananna:

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

So what time and where to link up?
Im excited!! :-D

[bornwildnfree]

I will not be able to make this run but ya'll be safe and have a blast.

[Drift]

I will not be able to make this run but ya'll be safe and have a blast.

Do I smell bad?...I promise I'll use some deodorant...

[Clovis]

Rain is forcasted for just about every day. But its always in the afternoon when we'll be finishing up.

[madvlad]

I'm doing the 5 am ride with grim this Saturday instead but maybe some other time guys. Ride safe and have fun

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

Count me as a maybe, depending on how my other ride shapes up. If my other ride is a go, I'll back out. If not, I'll ride with y'all and maybe sweep with Drift.

ETA: I realize this ride is on Saturday and it's only Tuesday, but I just got this email from the Douglas County Director of Emergency Management. "He wanted to advise that he had received notice of the potential for heavy rain, flooding and mudslides today in the area from Woodland Park to Deckers. If the rain keeps up during the week, expect a pretty dirty roadway on Saturday."

Just ride with us will ya?!! :cry: please?!
No if's and or but's :bananna: :-)

[CaneZach]

I'm out. I'm heading on a different ride. You guys be safe!

[BlueRanger]

I'd invest in leathers just to prepare for when I go down in my garage.

[konaman]

I won't be making this ride as I am now headed off to Global at Red Rocks. Ride Safe!

[Clovis]

If you can't make this one, catch the next one :)

It's looking like 5-7 riders -- aka the usual.

[Clovis]

My ph# if you need it is 719-201-9383.

See you in the morning @ Acorn, 8:30!

-Clov

[kat.luvs.sportbikes]

Thank you Clov for the ride, it was fun!
Here are some pics from the Evergreen ride.

[Brat]

uhh clovis man. youve put on a few pounds.... lol. looks like a good ride.

[Clovis]

Actually, I've lost pounds =P It's the fabulous pants.