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tecknojoe
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 07:34 AM
Starbucks lovers, your next ride:

stolen article:

http://ducati.com/1199_panigale/index.do

Ducati has decided to christen their new Superbike ‘1199 Panigale’ (Panigale is the area where Ducati is located in Bologna - Borgo Panigale) and this teaser video reveals very little of the new bike (the so-called spy shots have taken care of that) as everything is purposely out of focus so they continue the teaser build up ahead of the 2011 EICMA show, November 10th to 13th.
What is also interesting, despite our belief on the contrary, Ducati will not be immediately debuting the 1199 Panigale in the World Superbike championship next season, but in the 2012 FIM Superstock Championship, this way they can solve any glitches that the new bike may have.



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Press Release:
“Ducati officially announces the naming of its new generation 2012 Superbike as the “Ducati 1199 Panigale” and confirms that the unveiling and first public display will be at the EICMA International Motorcycle Show in Milan 10-13 November.

“Having attracted massive, world-wide interest during the machine’s many test phases, the exciting new model is also now officially named in an emotional video released on the Italian manufacturer’s website, Ducati.com, and Ducati Motor Holding’s official Youtube channel.

“The wait to discover the incredible performance, innovative design and ground-breaking technologies of the new 1199 Panigale will continue for just a few more weeks.

“Pronounced “Pan-ee-gah-lee”, the new model breaks with Ducati’s Superbike tradition by adding a name to its 1199cc engine capacity (referred to as eleven-nine-nine), making a significant and warm association to its historic roots in the Borgo Panigale area of Bologna.

“In an Italian territory known as “Motor Valley” and where high performance and racing runs through the veins of its passionate people, Ducati now underline their pride in being world ambassadors for the “Made in Italy” title by immortalizing their home town in the name of the new Superbike.

“Developed as a true sport bike with competition in its DNA, the Ducati 1199 Panigale will first see racing action in the 2012 FIM Superstock Championship and, in accordance with the factory’s development program, make its debut in World Superbike in 2013.

“The two-stage introduction enables Ducati additional development for the Superbike version of the 1199 Panigale, appropriate to the more open regulations of the World Superbike category, and in addition help control costs for World Superbike teams who can continue to compete with a 2012 version of the 1198 with technical support from Ducati Engineers.”

tecknojoe
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 07:36 AM
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asp_125
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 08:44 AM
Want.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/282778/images/ducati-1199.jpg

salsashark
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 08:55 AM
That's an exhaust Eric Buell would be proud of...

I like it!

Mother Goose
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 08:59 AM
Mmmm Starbucks.

Airreed
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:06 AM
Starbucks and a lot of $$$$$ to rock that bike!

laspariahs
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:07 AM
Well that's nice, too bad it'll cost a fortune.

dirkterrell
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:35 AM
That's a nice looking bike. How I'd like to see it painted: :D

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwb.jpg

dirkterrell
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:39 AM
Although I suspect the Ducati faithful would like this better:

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwg.jpg

MetaLord 9
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:40 AM
Dirk & his photoshop skills....

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:48 AM
Although I suspect the Ducati faithful would like this better:

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwg.jpg
Thanks for making me soil myself........:) Now, THAT'S one sexay bike. WOW! Ok, now, that's one that might even make me switch to twins instead of my inline-4's......if it was affordable.

longrider
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:48 AM
That's a nice looking bike. How I'd like to see it painted: :D

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwb.jpg

If it is going to be USA colors I would think the number should be 69

CYCLE_MONKEY
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 09:49 AM
That's an exhaust Eric Buell would be proud of...

I like it!
He certainly would......if he could even make one as sexay as that instead of the "stolen off of a '70's dune buggy" exhaust look. ;)

salsashark
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:00 AM
^^ Yeah... I know there's a reason for it, but the little micro mufflers on the 1190 do scream "sand buggy VW".

Ghost
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:03 AM
If it is going to be USA colors I would think the number should be 69

I'm thinking those are VFR colors, not necessarily USA

~Barn~
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:05 AM
Nice 'Chop skills, Dirk! :applause:

Ghost
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:12 AM
At least the Buell exhaust won't roast your ass/thigh to medium well in traffic...

dirkterrell
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:18 AM
I'm thinking those are VFR colors, not necessarily USA

Yeah, I just like RWB colors together on a bike so it's not a USA (or France, Russia, Norway, Czech Republic, Cambodia, Iceland, etc, etc) statement. But, now that I think about it, that might be a nice paint scheme for them to do at Laguna...

UglyDogRacing
Wed Sep 21st, 2011, 10:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMEoPl-2so&feature=player_embedded

stubbicatt
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 06:18 AM
At least the Buell exhaust won't roast your ass/thigh to medium well in traffic...

Yes. Aherm... that IS an issue on my 1198. Wow.

CYCLE_MONKEY
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 07:08 AM
.......hopefully this one wil be a little more reliable.........:D

Sean
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 07:23 AM
I don't drink Starbucks, but I'm willing to change if I get to ride this. :hump:

tecknojoe
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 07:25 AM
on that green bike photoshop, the green needs to switch places with the red

dirkterrell
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 07:40 AM
on that green bike photoshop, the green needs to switch places with the red

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwg2.jpg

rybo
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 07:42 AM
YES!!

now do the same with the red and blue on the RWB one and you'll really have something

:)


http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwg2.jpg

Ghost
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 10:15 AM
Yes. Aherm... that IS an issue on my 1198. Wow.

That's an issue on any Ducati with undertail exhausts, so at least misery loves company.

tecknojoe
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 10:22 AM
Supposedly this image isn't completely accurate. Or so I hear from a dealer that saw it

dirkterrell
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 11:09 AM
YES!!

now do the same with the red and blue on the RWB one and you'll really have something

:)


http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwb2.jpg

Interesting, but I think I'm still partial to blue on the top...

brennahm
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 11:18 AM
I like the red on top on both of those, nice work!

rybo
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 12:59 PM
what about making the mid stripe red too?

Ghost
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 01:21 PM
Supposedly this image isn't completely accurate. Or so I hear from a dealer that saw it

Yeah, it's probably all a magazine photochop anyway

Ghost
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 01:22 PM
what about making the mid stripe red too?

How about Red/Black or Black/Red? :D

And lose the mirrors and that awful taillight thing in the back.

tecknojoe
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 01:56 PM
Yeah, it's probably all a magazine photochop anyway

look at the slit in the mid fairing. Then look at the first image in the OP. Looks a little different.

Am curious now. I guess we'll see

dirkterrell
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 02:12 PM
what about making the mid stripe red too?

Maybe this evening...

CYCLE_MONKEY
Thu Sep 22nd, 2011, 04:35 PM
The Tricolore is the ONLY paint scheme to have.......SRSLY.......:D

stubbicatt
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 05:10 AM
.......hopefully this one wil be a little more reliable.........:D

Oh that's right! Why not squeeze a little tomato juice in my bleeding wound... Bike is still at Fay Myers. Maybe I'll get it back next year in time to trade it in on this one. :)

Too, it would be better if they used twin radiators at the side vents like the prior Honda Interceptor models. In traffic that radiator will seriously burn your legs, if it is anything like my 1198.

CYCLE_MONKEY
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 07:13 AM
Oh that's right! Why not squeeze a little tomato juice in my bleeding wound... Bike is still at Fay Myers. Maybe I'll get it back next year in time to trade it in on this one. :)

Too, it would be better if they used twin radiators at the side vents like the prior Honda Interceptor models. In traffic that radiator will seriously burn your legs, if it is anything like my 1198.
Sorry bro, couldn't help that one! Just let me know if you need any help or anything, I'm just down the street. Any word yet?

dirkterrell
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 08:07 AM
what about making the mid stripe red too?

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwb3.jpg

tecknojoe
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 08:10 AM
plz ditch the yellow in all future pics. It looks like a ronald mcdonald bike

dirkterrell
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 08:16 AM
It loses a bit of detail in the conversion to gif format, but here's the three RWB versions:

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Eterrell/bikes/ducati_rwb_anim.gif

thaitanic
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 10:41 PM
i used to like ducati, but they have some shitty reliability and engineering issues for an expensive bike. another italian trash to push it to starbucks, let everyone look at it, than push it back home. i bet they push real nice to the local starbucks. DUCATI, please leave the engineering to the germans and japanese.

madvlad
Fri Sep 23rd, 2011, 11:22 PM
That is one bad bike.... nom nom nom!

deadline
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 12:15 AM
reminds me of KTM rc8 look. at least exhaust is setup the same way

http://www.webbikeworld.com/ktm/rc8/ktm-rc8-right.jpg

Ghost
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 12:00 PM
i used to like ducati, but they have some shitty reliability and engineering issues for an expensive bike. another italian trash to push it to starbucks, let everyone look at it, than push it back home. i bet they push real nice to the local starbucks. DUCATI, please leave the engineering to the germans and japanese.

The Japanese have never made a bad bike.

Never.

Not even once.

Completely reliable, no issues ever.

Perfect in every way possible.

God cannot rival their absolute perfection in creation.

Especially Honda.

laspariahs
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 12:58 PM
The Japanese have never made a bad bike.

Never.

Not even once.

Completely reliable, no issues ever.

Perfect in every way possible.

God cannot rival their absolute perfection in creation.

Especially Honda.

I won't say Japanese/german bikes are perfect, but they cost a LOT less to own than a ducati, it's just a fact.

Zach929rr
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 03:16 PM
brb taking out home equity loan to pay for Ducati valve service.

Ghost
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 03:24 PM
I won't say Japanese/german bikes are perfect, but they cost a LOT less to own than a ducati, it's just a fact.

Ducati is just the Italian Harley, it's a lifestyle more than just a vehicle--and that cost of ownership keeps the riff raff away from polluting the Ducati ownership experience...

~Barn~
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 04:51 PM
If the slightly higher maintenance cost of owning a Ducati, is your main concerns about owning a Ducati, then you'll likely never understand the appeal of the brand.

Jenny
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 06:11 PM
If the slightly higher maintenance cost of owning a Ducati, is your main concerns about owning a Ducati, then you'll likely never understand the appeal of the brand.

QFT

brennahm
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Slightly?

Awesome.

thaitanic
Sat Sep 24th, 2011, 10:27 PM
Ducati=fashion

salsashark
Sun Sep 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Ducati=fashion

Tell that to Carlos Checa...

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/season.html

Ghost
Sun Sep 25th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Slightly?

Awesome.

If you don't think $2k for the valve adjust isn't "slight" then don't buy the bike--there are cheap Japanese bikes for you. Get back in your bread line and leave the patricians alone, prole.


Ducati=fashion

Which is why it sells.


Tell that to Carlos Checa...

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/season.html

Just one more fact to brag about when you're in line at Starbucks... :p

rybo
Sun Sep 25th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Slightly?

Awesome.

I've owned and raced Ducatis for the last 10 years - on the racetrack the cost to own is really only slightly higher. My bike has been highly reliable and really quite a pleasure to own and race. This year, on a 1997 model:

3rd - SuperTwins GTO
2nd - Modern Vintage GTU
3rd - Thunderbike
3rd - Modern Vintage GTO

The bike made every race this season, stood on the podium a bunch of times and had no issues whatsoever (that weren't user induced)

My street bike was a 2001 748 and again, once we got past the warranty covered rocker arm replacement, the bike was nothing but a dream to own.

I've never thought of the bikes as a fashion statement, they are well engineered designs that offer something that can't be gotten elsewhere. I really enjoy the 2 cylinder experience much more than I do the 4 cylinder one.

But that's just me

s

brennahm
Sun Sep 25th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Like any bike, you'll have the guys that will defend it no matter what.

Scott, you're a guy who does his own work (am I wrong?) and has one of the (as I've seen) most reliable of the modern Ducati's.

Then you take the 1098 lineage. A certain dealer had every example they sold in the first year in the shop for issues at one time. I'm not talking leaking fork seals, electrical issues, or slight leaks. We're talking BROKEN trannys, ruined pistons, destroyed valvetrains.

This is one of those situations where you have the haters who will always hate, the middle ground who see no need for the headaches, and the fanboys who will defend it till the end. Have fun guys.

thaitanic
Sun Sep 25th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Tell that to Carlos Checa...

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/season.html. Ducati is good for 20 or so hot laps. i dare Sjaak Lucassen or nick sanders to ditch their yamaha R1, and go on a world biking tour on a Ducati!

salsashark
Mon Sep 26th, 2011, 09:03 AM
. Ducati is good for 20 or so hot laps. i dare Sjaak Lucassen or nick sanders to ditch their yamaha R1, and go on a world biking tour on a Ducati!

Worked for Paolo Pirozzi... :dunno:

rybo
Mon Sep 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
You make a valid point in that I have no "live in" experience with a more modern Duc. Also that I do the bulk of my own maintenance.

I'm a big fan of the brand, mostly because I've had a very good experience with them. So I'll defend on.

If you want me to try out the new bike, please feel free to get one for me. I'll convert it to race duty and report true and accurate accounts of it's performance both on and off the racetrack. I'll even buy you a crew pass for the season, so you can come and watch every round, list you as a sponsor and let the world know what a great guy you are. In the interest of preserving the experience as much as possible, the only changes I'll make to the bike will be those required for it to pass MRA tech, brake pads, tires and gearing. Other than that I'll leave it completely stock as a true test of the machine's durability....

come one, that's an awesome deal (for me) what do you say???


Like any bike, you'll have the guys that will defend it no matter what.

Scott, you're a guy who does his own work (am I wrong?) and has one of the (as I've seen) most reliable of the modern Ducati's.

Then you take the 1098 lineage. A certain dealer had every example they sold in the first year in the shop for issues at one time. I'm not talking leaking fork seals, electrical issues, or slight leaks. We're talking BROKEN trannys, ruined pistons, destroyed valvetrains.

This is one of those situations where you have the haters who will always hate, the middle ground who see no need for the headaches, and the fanboys who will defend it till the end. Have fun guys.

brennahm
Mon Sep 26th, 2011, 09:36 PM
Scott, never meant to cause any offense and you're someone who I'm told is certainly qualified to make determinations on reliablility, maintenance, etc. "Fanboy" has a bad connotation but was the best word I could come up with.

Don't forget though, that as a well prepped racebike, your Ducati does or would (IF I could afford to buy you a new one) be subjected to some pretty rigorous and well above average attention and maintenance - hardly a bike on which to gauge reliability for the brand.

Honestly, take a modern Japanese 4-stroke MX bike as an example. A well prepped Honda 450 race bike will have during a say 12 race season with no practice:
12 oil changes
3-4 sets of rings
1-2 pistons
2-3 sets of retainers & springs
1-2 sets of valves

...and that's just the motor.

Take that same bike and make it your weekend track/trail bike. Lets say you ride 12 weekends. The bike will no doubt have more run time on it (1-2 days a weekend, multiple hours a day, more on trail days) vs a race bike a couple hours each weekend. Based on a fairly large sample of guys that brought these bikes in to a dealer I worked at the usual maintenance was:

Oil change every "couple rides"
Rings?
VALVES?!?!?

These guys can't figure out why their bike is so hard to start (tight intake valves) or uses oil (clapped out rings) or makes funny noises (piston slap) or why when put on a dyno it's 15-20 hp off spec.

I think the same would apply to a Ducati, fine as a race bike that's maintained as such, but too often the guys on the street find their ride is in the shop more than their posession.

People who buy Ducati's as streetbikes are welcome to their purchases. They're cool bikes to be sure...but I wouldn't own one until it was my 4th or 5th bike. Enjoy your Italian.

rybo
Mon Sep 26th, 2011, 09:54 PM
No offense taken - really I was just trying to be funny (and get a new bike). :)

brennahm
Mon Sep 26th, 2011, 11:11 PM
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!

Swift
Tue Sep 27th, 2011, 12:05 AM
I wants one. Might need to save a few clams first but definitely want.