CSC Gets Back into Shape 10/1/11

[Mother Goose]

That's right folks, this is happening. Some of us need to lose some weight, while some of us just want motivation to keep at on a program and sticking to it. This is where you will get that inspiration. There's a couple of us that will be doing P90X, and a couple doing Insanity. If you are doing another program, or just going to the gym, you can still get some help here. So post up if you're in, and what you'll be doing. I'll try and keep this post updated with any nutrition advice some of the members give (NATE!!), and any other helpful information. copyright 2011 The Princess of Prius

[Sean]

Good thing you thought of this. :up:




I'm in. Misery loves company. :hump:

[Dr. Joe Siphek]

i did yoga for the first time yesterday.

[vort3xr6]

I start HGC injections end of this month. Gonna lose about 30 lbs, then follow it up with insanity.

[BlueRanger]

:pointlaugh: I'm doing the be 20 years old and eat as much as I want and still be in shape haha. Na, I'm just kidding. Good luck guys!

[Mother Goose]

Good thing you thought of this. :up:

copyright 2011 The Princess of Prius
Better? ;)

[TinkerinWstuff]

I'll try and keep this post updated

sort of like the Bike of the Month :D

[Sean]

Better? ;):spit:

[BlueRanger]

But some advice I do have is Box. Join a boxing gym and box seriously. I was 180lbs for rugby and within 3 months I needed to get to 125lbs for boxing and I did it purely through boxing. Boxing = Pure cardio like none other.

[Jmetz]

I'm pretty in shape.




















That shape happens to be round.

[Mother Goose]

sort of like the Bike of the Month :D
:violin: I said try, not will. :D

[vort3xr6]

Men of CSC calendar. I got February on lock.

[Suki]

Wickles, I need another copy of p90x! I dipped the other one in chocolate and ate it.

[Mother Goose]

Wickles, I need another copy of p90x! I dipped the other one in chocolate and ate it.
:poo:

[Sean]

Men of CSC calendar. I got February on lock.Don't be all jealousy.

[TinkerinWstuff]

Men of CSC calendar.

Proceeds to save the boobies http://vfrworld.com/forums/images/smilies/Boobies3.gif

[bulldog]

Some good info on this thread http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36564

T

[Suki]

:poo:
I just did that too. I feel 10 lbs lighter, hooray for coffee!

[Mother Goose]

I just did that too. I feel 10 lbs lighter, hooray for coffee!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6172141315_2e8dca412b_o.jpg

[Snowman]

Just get the surgery and be done with it...

[sprtbkbabe]

Awesome! I just found a cool article on diet and thought it'd help us:

CONCENTRATE ON CHEWING
It’s simple according to new research, the longer you spend chewing, the fewer calories you consume.
A study found people who chewed each mouthful 40 times ate 12 per cent less food than those who chewed just 15 times, leading researchers to suggest eating quickly, gorging and binge eating could have a substantial effect on being overweight.
The study also showed obese participants chewed less and ingested more quickly than slimmer ones.
Experts believe chewing for longer prevents over-eating by giving the brain more time to receive signals from the stomach that it is full.
It is also thought to lower levels of ghrelin, the ‘hunger hormone’, circulating in the digestive system, meaning eating more slowly can be a simple and effective way of tackling weight problems.
‘The mouth is the first part of your digestive system so chewing your food properly is the start of an efficient mechanical breakdown of what you eat,’ says female nutrition specialist, Dr Marilyn Glenville.
‘It also takes around 20 minutes for the stomach to register it is full so chewing thoroughly slows you down and can help prevent you overeating and gaining weight. Take your time chewing and you’ll find you don’t want or need as much food at meals.’
‘Chewing properly liquidises food to ensure your body can digest it efficiently and absorb maximum nutrients,’ adds James Duigan, author of Flat Tummy Fast and celebrity personal trainer (bodyism.com). ‘As it takes time to register you're full, takes a 20 minute before your next course and you might feel you don't need any more.'

ALWAYS EAT WITHIN AN HOUR OF WAKING UP
Experts agree that breakfast is the most important meal of the day and it is clinically proven that people who eat breakfast are generally lighter, slimmer and less prone to cravings than those who skip a morning meal.
The body’s internal chemistry is at its most active first thing in the morning, so anything eaten then will be used to the maximum and recent research has found that people lost twice as much body fat when they consumed half their daily calories at breakfast.
‘Always eat within an hour of waking up,’ advises James Duigan. ‘After going without food for hours during the night, the body is ready to refuel.
Putting off eating or missing breakfast altogether slows down your metabolism and can lead to sugar cravings and long-term weight gain.
‘What you eat first thing will determine what your body wants for the rest of the day so avoid sugary cereals and pastries and make healthy choices always including some filling protein like eggs and smoked salmon.’

FOCUS ON YOUR FOOD
Experts have found that doing other things at the dinner table stops your brain receiving signals about being full, meaning people who regularly multi-task when munching could pile on more pounds.
Women trying to lose weight are especially susceptible to this phenomenon with research finding they regularly notched up more calories when juggling eating with other activities.
Talking on the phone, listening to music or watching TV proved to be the main culprits behind chomping greater quantities. Another study by the University of Bristol found a group that had been distracted while eating their meal ate twice as many biscuits half an hour later than those who had not.
‘There is a psychological communication between the brain and the digestive system when we eat, smelling, preparing and sitting down at the table is all part of that,’ says expert nutritionist, Kim Pearson.
‘When we eat in front of the TV our bodies don’t get those messages meaning we pay less attention to our food choices, don’t absorb the process of eating and feeling full, and consequently often overeat.’
‘Putting other activities aside and planning to simply eat at the table means you are more likely to think about what and how much you are eating, make better food choices and consequently stop eating when you are full,' adds Duigan.

CAREFUL HOW YOU COOK
‘Overcooking food can kill off or reduce the number of nutrients your meal contains, and when we don’t get enough good nutrients we don’t feel satisfied and soon start to get cravings. ’ says James, who advises trying to make sure at least half the food on your plate is raw.
‘If you have a sensitive digestive system and can’t cope with raw foods then remember the basic rule that the less time you spend cooking, the more nutrients will remain,’ James advises. ‘Steam, bake, blanch or grill vegetables and grill or bake meat or fish, and avoid microwaving - studies have shown it can destroy up to 97 per cent of antioxidants in vegetables.’

EAT FRUIT FIRST
Fruits contain simple sugars meaning they are broken down by a different enzyme to other foods. Typically fruits only take about thirty minutes to digest, while carbohydrates and proteins are much slower and can take as long as two hours. Foods rich in fat, protein and starch requiring more digestion may even stay in the stomach for longer.
Experts suggest this is why if you eat fruit after a meal you may experience digestive trouble as, hampered by the food eaten before it, the fruit sugar will outstay its welcome in the stomach and ferment.
‘If you eat fruit around 30 minutes before a meal it will digest quickly and well,’ explains James. ‘But eat it after or alongside proteins and carbohydrates and your digestive enzymes will clash, the fruit will sit on top of other food and nothing will get processed efficiently.’

DON’T EAT AFTER 8PM
‘We’ve all had a ‘food hangover’ feeling sluggish and uncomfortable the next day after eating too much, too late, the night before, and it makes sense if we think of food as fuel,’ says James Duigan.
‘Your body needs you to put in the most when you are going to expend the most, so eating a large meal in the evening, when your body is slowing down or sleeping is contrary.’
Avoid falling into the trap of eating high-energy treats, such as ice cream or crisps, late at night. These can contain as much as a quarter of an adult’s total daily recommended calorie intake at a time of day when far fewer calories are used.
‘Imposing an 8pm food curfew can be the key to cutting out evening snacks,’ advises Kim Pearson. ‘If you find this hard try swapping chocolate for herbal tea or even cleaning your teeth after dinner to switch your mind off from the idea of eating.’

EAT LESS WHEN YOU’RE STRESSED
‘When we are in a state of stress our bodies release hormones and cortisol which are designed to warn us of danger,’ explain Dr. Marilyn Glenville.
‘As a consequence all of the bodies energy is put into protecting us from the threat which is causing this stress, including the energy we need for digestive function. If we eat when we are stressed the body will struggle to absorb nutrients from food, so ideally wait until you are calmer before eating.’
If you must eat either eat very small amounts or opt for foods like soup and porridge which are easier for the body to breakdown. Always avoid raw food when stressed as the body requires far more energy to break them down for digestion.

SLICE YOUR FOOD
A recent study found people who sliced their food when eating consumed on average 20 per cent fewer calories than those eating the same foods left whole. They also rated sliced servings as 27 per cent larger than equal amounts of complete foods meaning they put less onto their plates and cut back their portion sizes.
‘By slicing the food you are taking more time to think and chew what you eat.’ Says Dr Glenville. ‘This makes you more likely to exercise greater portion control and also enables your digestion to perform at its peak so you get maximum nutrients from your meals.’

EAT LITTLE AND OFTEN
‘If you go for more than five hours without eating the body starts to think it’s being starved and floods itself with the stress hormone cortisol to prepare for what it thinks is a famine’ says James Duigan. ‘Plus when you do finally eat you are more likely to overeat or pick at the wrong things because you are so hungry.’
Kim Pearson agrees: ‘Studies have shown cortisol can often lead to use gaining weight around our midriff. Eating regularly balances our insulin and prevents peaks and troughs in the blood sugar so if you eat regularly you’re blood sugar remains balanced and you are less likely to overeat or seek out sugary snacks.’
Try eating small, frequent, healthy meals throughout the day to prevent this energy dip but don’t use this rule as an excuse to overeat, if you eat quality meals and are not hungry in-between then go without.
　
COOK CAREFULLY - OR NOT AT ALL
‘Overcooking food can kill off or reduce the number of nutrients your meal contains, and when we don’t get enough good nutrients we don’t feel satisfied and soon start to get cravings,’ says James Duigan, who advises trying to make sure at least half the food on your plate is raw.
‘If you have a sensitive digestive system and can’t cope with raw foods then remember the basic rule that the less time you spend cooking, the more nutrients will remain.
Steam, bake, blanch or grill vegetables and grill or bake meat or fish, and avoid microwaving - studies have shown it can destroy up to 97 per cent of antioxidants in vegetables.’

THINK BEFORE YOU DRINK
When you drink can be as important as what you drink. ‘Dehydration is very stressful to the body,’ explains James Duigan.
‘Drink plenty of still filtered water throughout the day to prevent this, but remember if you drink at mealtimes the liquid slows down digestion, diluting the acid in your stomach meaning food and nutrients are less well absorbed. This often results in uncomfortable fermentation, bloating and gas in the stomach.’
To avoid this try to drink water 15 minutes before or after a meal, and if you need to drink while you eat limit yourself to small sips only.
As an added bonus some research has found drinking water before a meal may also help to take the edge of our appetites.
　
ALWAYS EAT PROTEIN WITH STARCHY CARBS
‘Eating protein with starchy carbohydrates like pasta, rice and bread actually slows down the digestion of the carbohydrate, balancing your blood sugar and lowering the speed at which it releases energy, meaning you feel fuller for longer,’ explains Dr Glenville.
‘Eaten alone starchy carbs can cause a sharp rise in insulin which will dip shortly afterwards leaving you hungry, and probably reaching for a quick sugar fix.’
Add tuna to a jacket potato, beans to toast or oil, which has the same effect on starchy carbs as protein, to pasta to balance out your meals.
James Duigan advises eating a few nuts everytime you eat fruit to slow down the body’s absorption of sugar, meaning less reaches your waistline.

[3D]

Just curious, but how many on here are actually qualified to give nutrition/supplement/work out advice? I'm not meaning this to sound like an ass, I'm just wondering who all, if any, is a certified nutritionalist or personal trainier.

[Zach929rr]

Certified Penis Trainer

[Sean]

Just curious, but how many on here are actually qualified to give nutrition/supplement/work out advice? None, just like all of the other info on this board. This is an informal, and motivational, idea. All tips, training and thoughts should be taken at the readers discretion. The idea is so that we have a small support group and don't feel like we're doing it alone. Just trying to keep motivation to stick with it.

[Zach929rr]

I do jelqs like a motherfucker.

[3D]

None, just like all of the other info on this board. This is an informal, and motivational, idea. All tips, training and thoughts should be taken at the readers discretion. The idea is so that we have a small support group and don't feel like we're doing it alone. Just trying to keep motivation to stick with it.

Cool. I like giving advice on stuff like this but I'm not certified. I was just curious.

[usmcab35]

I start HGC injections end of this month. Gonna lose about 30 lbs, then follow it up with insanity.

I did the HCG drops and dropped 40 lbs in a month and a week and kept it off for almost a yr so far. its a hard diet to stick to but really works good!

[OUTLAWD]

some of you may know Bree (sp?)

Some of the stuff on her site makes sense

http://thebettyrocker.com/

I like the whole metobolism jumpstart thing in the AM, but I like to lift in the morning, so its a bit hard for me to find time to eat and lift without getting up at 3am...haha


I plan on getting my diet squared away (no booze) and doing a mix of lifting/INSANITY/basic cardio(run/bike). want to get down to ~175 with a 30" waist, instead of my studly ~205/32" waist + beer gut now

[Nooch]

Just curious, but how many on here are actually qualified to give nutrition/supplement/work out advice? I'm not meaning this to sound like an ass, I'm just wondering who all, if any, is a certified nutritionalist or personal trainier.

Im not certified, but Sports Medicine was my minor in college. That being said, Sprtbkbabe's post is full of win!

I also recommend pretty much anything written by David Zinczenko. He is the EIC of Men's Health and Women's Health magazines, as well as the author of "Eat This, Not That".

[brennahm]

I was thinking of taking up running in the morning. Now I just need someone to tazer me when I skip it...

[bulldog]

None, just like all of the other info on this board. This is an informal, and motivational, idea. All tips, training and thoughts should be taken at the readers discretion. The idea is so that we have a small support group and don't feel like we're doing it alone. Just trying to keep motivation to stick with it. Exactly! Do we need a disclamer! :lol: Just trying to help out people since I have been all about fitness for the last 8 years and want to spread the knowledge that took me a long time to figure out and I wasted a lot of time when I wasn't working out correctly. I do everything I preach though and am at the gym at least 5 days a week and have transformed myself from a skinny guy in a few years.

[Suki]

^^ I need a side by side shot of yours and scer's abs.

[Suki]

you know, to trust what you're saying. :)

[vort3xr6]

I was thinking of taking up running in the morning. Now I just need someone to tazer me when I skip it...

I will gladly volunteer for this duty.

[MetaLord 9]

Don't taze me bro

[TinkerinWstuff]

^^ I need a side by side shot of yours and scer's abs.

The first and possibly only order for the men of csc calendar

[bulldog]

^^ I need a side by side shot of yours and scer's abs. Sh*t you have not seen Scer in a while then, because he stopped working out when he got his gf (unless he recently started again). Plus Scer in his prime was maybe 150 lbs and it is easy for skinny guys to get abs :D He was my comp, then he failed me :slap:

Most recent pic I have and it is probably 6 months old and I have made gains since then (especially to abs and chest which have been my goal) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/bulldog420/Fitness/IMAG0051.jpg

Arms seem to be my storng point for some reason (body is weird like that)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/bulldog420/Fitness/IMAG0057.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

Exactly! Do we need a disclamer! :lol: Just trying to help out people since I have been all about fitness for the last 8 years and want to spread the knowledge that took me a long time to figure out and I wasted a lot of time when I wasn't working out correctly. I do everything I preach though and am at the gym at least 5 days a week and have transformed myself from a skinny guy in a few years.

I'm Hanz and this is Franz. We're here to pump....you up!

http://blog.timesunion.com/running/files/2010/08/hans_franz.jpg

[bodhizafa]

Just curious, but how many on here are actually qualified to give nutrition/supplement/work out advice? I'm not meaning this to sound like an ass, I'm just wondering who all, if any, is a certified nutritionalist or personal trainier.

I was a personal trainer about 8 years ago (NASM), haven't kept up my certification though :|

I wouldn't trust me anyhow :D

[Ghost]

I need to get my cardio back, I'm far from fat, but my endurance is total shit--I realized that at the last full track day when I was just getting way too much fatigue and muscle shake by the end of the day...

[bulldog]

you know, to trust what you're saying. :) Now I demand some pics of you since I heard you lost a bunch of weight. It can be topless like my pic too if you want :lol:

[Sean]

Looking good, Nate! :up:

[Suki]

Now I demand some pics of you since I heard you lost a bunch of weight. It can be topless like my pic too if you want :lol:


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I don't know who told you that lie but if you're in the mood for muffin tops I can deliver, lol!

I'm going to print your pics and put them on the fridge so alan stops eating, lol!

[Jmetz]

Mmmmmmm muffins.

[Suki]

Whole grain without the corn syrup, it's how I roll.

[Mother Goose]

I'm going to print your pics and put them on the fridge so alan stops eating, lol!
You don't want the Frizzle to become bulimic. :p

[Keyser Soze]

You don't want the Frizzle to become bulimic. :p

If that cat gets any skinnier, he'll disappear.

[bulldog]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I don't know who told you that lie but if you're in the mood for muffin tops I can deliver, lol!

I'm going to print your pics and put them on the fridge so alan stops eating, lol! Weird I could have sworn I saw you post pics of you losing a bunch of weight. :think:

Whatever, Alan needs to eat if anything. He was like the skinniest guy I knew.

[Suki]

He needs to eat the RIGHT food, not fast/junk food cause Tubby the Tape Worm has died and he jumped from 142-ish to 168 in the last year. Last time Keyser saw him he was probably still in the upper 130's.

Nate are you referring to pics on FB? I lost a ton of weight after I had Mikayla, then gained it back when I stopped breastfeeding her, then lost some before we went to Denver this summer from a 6 wk bootcamp, then gained it back, lol. I've been at this weight before, but it's definitely more FAT than muscle now.

[bulldog]

He needs to eat the RIGHT food, not fast/junk food cause Tubby the Tape Worm has died and he jumped from 142-ish to 168 in the last year. Last time Keyser saw him he was probably still in the upper 130's.

Nate are you referring to pics on FB? I lost a ton of weight after I had Mikayla, then gained it back when I stopped breastfeeding her, then lost some before we went to Denver this summer from a 6 wk bootcamp, then gained it back, lol. I've been at this weight before, but it's definitely more FAT than muscle now. Yup, it was after that bootcamp. Saw pics here or somewhere... Well now you can join this group and participate!!!! :D

[Suki]

Haha, definitely. Once we get back in town I'll post up for gym buddies at 24hr, although I know most of you have day jobs and all, lol!

[FZRguy]

I certainly don't need to lose any weight, but here are some more tips for you fatty's. :D


The body will only do what the mind allows it to do. It starts in the mind. The same is true with shedding those extra pounds. The problem is not to be found with the needs of our belly but with our brain. Author Dianne Hales writes, “The key to permanent weight loss is changing the attitudes, feelings and habits that determine what, when, why, how often and how much you eat.”
Choose balance over “diet”.


Decrease “empty” calories, food items with little nutritional value and excessive calories (refined sugar/processed foods)
Stay away from foods that “control” you (can’t have just one).
Don’t eat after 8:00pm or for those on shift work, after your last meal before you sleep.
Eat slower and enjoy each bite.
Don’t eat more because you think you need more due to the increased exercise.
Don’t skip meals.
Enjoy smaller portions.
Overeating means overweight.
Brush your teeth after meals, it helps finish a meal.
It never tastes as good as thin feels.
Feed your brain first and then your stomach. This is key to losing and keeping the weight off.
People don’t overeat because they’re hungry but as a way of meeting their emotional needs.
Calories do count and the reduction of them is what really matters, not necessarily the proportion of fats, carbohydrates and proteins.
Eating right isn’t necessarily about will-power…it’s about changing bad habits.
Good health starts with good choices. How bad do you want it?

Tips to Help Change Your Mind (excerpts from an article by Michael O’Shea)

1. Set small realistic goals. If your long-term goal is to lose 20 lbs, break it down into 5 lb. increments. Say to yourself every day that you want to eat correctly to be xxx lbs.
2. Weigh your words. Language has a powerful impact on the subconscious mind, so choose your words carefully. Use the past tense as a reminder that you are changing or at least capable of changing your habits. “I used to eat uncontrollably late at night.” Use the present tense to describe the habits you hope to acquire. “I enjoy fruit for dessert.”
3. Challenge negative assumptions. Instead of predicting that you’ll blow your nutritional goals, remind yourself of other goals you’ve set and met.
4. Give yourself positive affirmations. Positive, motivating phrases repeated frequently throughout the day serve as an effective tool for changing the way people think and act. Substitute “I need to eat” with the affirmation, “I am in control of what I eat.”
5. Visualize yourself as a fitter person. “As a man (or woman) thinketh, so he is.” This is another cognitive strategy that helps break the habit of emotional eating. A person will be more successful at losing weight if the self-image reflects a healthy fit person. Post a photo of a fitter you...if your mind is keeping you overweight, change it.
6. Keep a food diary. Keeping an account of what you eat forces you to be accountable for your food choices.


Commit yourself to the long-term. Never, never give up…those who succeed at staying slim don’t give up. There is no magic plan and it’s not complicated. A simple commitment is what it takes.

[Cornfed]

Im another gym rat that has done most everything, except running, I fricken hate running. Ive power lifted, body building, love boxing/martial arts, bicycle is cool, but finding myself without a goal now. I don't plan on carrying my bike home so power lifting is useless and I am married so not sure what use making myself so lean you can see veins is going to do for me. I just joined Lifetime and am trying to work on muscle endurance. Sets of 20, lots of full body movements, i.e. squats, pull ups, clean and jerk, core exercises, etc. Problem is I cant seem to set a goal and its hard to connect lap times with gym time.

Workouts you love and that you do to improve your riding, endurance?
Thoughts?

[Keyser Soze]

Im another gym rat that has done most everything, except running, I fricken hate running. Ive power lifted, body building, love boxing/martial arts, bicycle is cool, but finding myself without a goal now. I don't plan on carrying my bike home so power lifting is useless and I am married so not sure what use making myself so lean you can see veins is going to do for me. I just joined Lifetime and am trying to work on muscle endurance. Sets of 20, lots of full body movements, i.e. squats, pull ups, clean and jerk, core exercises, etc. Problem is I cant seem to set a goal and its hard to connect lap times with gym time.

Workouts you love and that you do to improve your riding, endurance?
Thoughts?

Wind sprints?

[Cornfed]

Wind sprints?

Ah, ya mean like running? :down:

[FZRguy]

Workouts you love and that you do to improve your riding, endurance? Thoughts?

Try mountain biking. It's two wheels, fun, hard and will most def improve your moto riding. There are great trails right here in the metro area.

[Keyser Soze]

Ah, ya mean like running? :down:

Quick results tho. You'll have to run, but no marathons.

[Cornfed]

Try mountain biking. It's two wheels, fun, hard and will most def improve your moto riding. There are great trails right here in the metro area.

Your the 3rd person to tell me that. Im thinkin Id like to give it a try, unfortunately I dont own a mountain bike so that makes it hard. Im assuming most of the resort towns rent them?

[FZRguy]

You can demo/rent a MTB at BikeSource. http://www.bikesourcedenver.com/

Good idea before buying.

[Ghost]

Fuck running. Unless I'm being chased by rabid rottweilers, I'll walk.

Matt keeps pushing mountain biking for endurance, so maybe it's the key...

[bulldog]

Ah, ya mean like running? :down: Do you feel the same way about Eliptical machines? I don't like running all that much, mainly because of the impact it creates (broken hips years ago), but I can deal with eliptical (even though I don't really enjoy it). Watch tv, read, etc and try to forget you are doing cardio.

Other than that, anything that gets your heartbeat up high will work. Jump rope, jumping jacks, rowing machines, hand cycle, gym cardio classes, etc

[Sean]

You guys are nuts! I like running. It took me a little while to get to the point of enjoyment, but now I really like it and it's very liberating. If you only do it every now and then, yes it sucks, cause you're out of running shape. But if you do it regularly, it can be very relaxing. It's not like lifting weights, where you can just do it whenever you want and feel good afterwards. You have to work for it.

[3D]

I used to love to run, but since I decided to shatter my femur, my leg likes to give out from time to time. I get my cardio from the elliptical and row machines. Also I do the incline trail at Manitou Springs and a few other trails on the weekends. Here's a recent photo of me from about 2 weeks ago at the 24hr at a lean 206lbs. (shoulder day)
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab100/derek3ton/IMG00052-20110906-1024.jpg

[bulldog]

I used to love to run, but since I decided to shatter my femur, my leg likes to give out from time to time. I get my cardio from the elliptical and row machines. Also I do the incline trail at Manitou Springs and a few other trails on the weekends. Here's a recent photo of me from about 2 weeks ago at the 24hr at a lean 206lbs. (shoulder day)
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab100/derek3ton/IMG00052-20110906-1024.jpg Looks good. What 24 Hour do you workout at? I workout at the one at Santa Fe and Belleview M-F 5-6:30, then Sunday mornings.

[3D]

The one on Southgate in Colorado Springs. M-F 10a.m.-11:30'ish. If I don't do a trail on saturday, I usually go then and make up what I feel I slacked on during the week.

[OUTLAWD]

You guys are nuts! I like running. It took me a little while to get to the point of enjoyment, but now I really like it and it's very liberating. If you only do it every now and then, yes it sucks, cause you're out of running shape. But if you do it regularly, it can be very relaxing. It's not like lifting weights, where you can just do it whenever you want and feel good afterwards. You have to work for it.


my joints are too old for that nonsense...

[Sean]

my joints are too old for that nonsense...
:roll:

Old? You're old? Dude, I used to go jogging with Moses. He parted the Red Sea so we didn't have to run around it. :D

[3D]

:roll:

Old? You're old? Dude, I used to go jogging with Moses. He parted the Red Sea so we didn't have to run around it. :D

:pointlaugh: good one...

[bodhizafa]

Im another gym rat that has done most everything, except running, I fricken hate running. Ive power lifted, body building, love boxing/martial arts, bicycle is cool, but finding myself without a goal now. I don't plan on carrying my bike home so power lifting is useless and I am married so not sure what use making myself so lean you can see veins is going to do for me. I just joined Lifetime and am trying to work on muscle endurance. Sets of 20, lots of full body movements, i.e. squats, pull ups, clean and jerk, core exercises, etc. Problem is I cant seem to set a goal and its hard to connect lap times with gym time.

Workouts you love and that you do to improve your riding, endurance?
Thoughts?

Try getting into rock climbing, good mix of strength, endurance and flexibility.

[bulldog]

Try getting into rock climbing, good mix of strength, endurance and flexibility. Ok, so who worked out this weekend????

Here was yesterday's workout for me:

Bench Press (free weights):
10 times x 135pnds
8 times x 155 pnds
6 times x 185 pnds
3 times x 225 pnds

Incline Press (free weights):
10 times x 135pnds
8 times x 155 pnds
6 times x 185 pnds
3 times x 225 pnds

Decline Press (free weights):
10 times x 135pnds
10 times x 135 pnds
8 times X 145 pnds
6 times x 165 pnds

Chest Flies (Dumbells):
10 times x 80pnds
10 times x 90 pnds
8 times X 100 pnds
6 times x 110 pnds

Bench Press (Machine):
10 times x 185pnds
8 times x 200 pnds
6 times x 225 pnds
3 times x 250 pnds

Incline Press (Machine):
10 times x 185pnds
8 times x 200 pnds
6 times x 225 pnds
3 times x 250 pnds

Decline Press (Machine):
10 times x 140pnds
8 times x 180 pnds
6 times X 230 pnds
3 times x 270 pnds

Chest Flies (Machine):
10 times x 120 pnds
10 times x 130 pnds
8 times X 140 pnds
6 times x 160 pnds

Total Lifting Time = 1 hr (includes rests)
then...

P90X Ab ripper level 3 (I call AB hell) = 16 mins
10 minute eliptical machine cool down (15 incline at 9 resistance for 5 mins; then 20 incline at 9 resistance for 5 mins)

Total Time = about 1 1/2 hour


I tend to workout one or two body parts a day (5-6 days a week), which allows me to recover those primary muscles while hitting others the next day. I constantly change up my workout and sometimes go really heavy with less reps and sometimes lighter with more reps. This was kind of a mix and not maxing since I had no spotter.

EDIT: I was curious how much weight I lifted total and since it was in a Excel Spreadsheet: 37,470 lbs. Crazy when looked at it that way.

[Mother Goose]

BTW, I'm starting on the 3rd, because the 1st is Saturday. :p

[TinkerinWstuff]

Ok, so who worked out this weekend????


256miles of dual sport on Saturday. Mostly dirt including forest service roads.

20miles of technical rocky off road on Sunday. The tail light broke off from the abuse.

[bulldog]

BTW, I'm starting on the 3rd, because the 1st is Saturday. :p
None of that Wicky...start today!!!!! Excuses are like assholes; everyone has one :lol:


256miles of dual sport on Saturday. Mostly dirt including forest service roads.

20miles of technical rocky off road on Sunday. The tail light broke off from the abuse. I bet you are sore today! How do those forearms feel today!!! :D

[grim]

After being in shit ass Lysite WY all week and not being able to workout then or the week before i cant wait to hit the gym today i am going to be sore as hell tomorrow but its gonna feel goooooood!!!!! I may not be big like bulldog (165lbs) but i have been making weight gains for the last two years that have been exponential due to eating, lifting, and i like to get my cardio in the pool! After every two laps i get out and do 20 push ups and 50 sit ups. I usually try to do around 20 laps but i always lose count after 15. All of my weight gains have been pure muscle i maintain a 6% body fat and after just recently seeing the doc about a month ago he said whatever im doing to keep doing it! If anyone is in the south denver area or even near I-25 and lincoln i have a membership to 24 hour on tamarac and one on quebec and lincoln I am more than happy to show you some good workout routines.

[FZRguy]

Two hours at Bally's yesterday. Whole body combo of free weights and machines. Same workout on Tuesday. Cycling for the week = 139 miles.

[Mother Goose]

None of that Wicky...start today!!!!! Excuses are like assholes; everyone has one :lol:
And they all stink!

I had a little workout this weekend, rode 2 up to Breck and back. Then yesterday we went to Ikea, then that evening I was jumping in and out of a skatepark bowl to take some senior pictures. Does that count? :lol:

[bulldog]

After being in shit ass Lysite WY all week and not being able to workout then or the week before i cant wait to hit the gym today i am going to be sore as hell tomorrow but its gonna feel goooooood!!!!! I may not be big like bulldog (165lbs) but i have been making weight gains for the last two years that have been exponential due to eating, lifting, and i like to get my cardio in the pool! After every two laps i get out and do 20 push ups and 50 sit ups. I usually try to do around 20 laps but i always lose count after 15. All of my weight gains have been pure muscle i maintain a 6% body fat and after just recently seeing the doc about a month ago he said whatever im doing to keep doing it! If anyone is in the south denver area or even near I-25 and lincoln i have a membership to 24 hour on tamarac and one on quebec and lincoln I am more than happy to show you some good workout routines. Hey I am about 170-175; don't jipp me out of those hard to earn 10 pnds or muscle. :lol: Now 3D on the board is the big guy as the most I have ever weighed was about 195 and that was 5,000 calories a day with no cardio and a personal trainer!


Two hours at Bally's yesterday. Whole body combo of free weights and machines. Same workout on Tuesday. Cycling for the week = 139 miles.
Wow John, 139 miles is crazy! Probably takes me a few months to get that much cardio!


And they all stink!

I had a little workout this weekend, rode 2 up to Breck and back. Then yesterday we went to Ikea, then that evening I was jumping in and out of a skatepark bowl to take some senior pictures. Does that count? :lol: Rode as in a pedal bike? If so, then that is hardcore, but if not, then no that didn't really count :D

[grim]

The goal for me is 200lbs Im on a pretty strict protein shake cycle and loading on carbs like a sonovabitch so we shall see how it goes.

[3D]

Now 3D on the board is the big guy as the most I have ever weighed was about 195 and that was 5,000 calories a day with no cardio and a personal trainer!

I changed up my diet about 4 months ago and started doing a lot more cardio for 20min before my workouts. It has helped shed the extra poundage. I started eating more high protein foods along with the multivitamins in the mornings also. I don't want to make this a long post, but I'll just give what I usually eat for breakfast in the mornings. I stick to this 6 days a week. Usually take a break on Sundays.

Breakfast:
6 eggs (scrambled w/no seasoning) 2 whole egg, 4 egg whites.
1 piece of toast ( seven grain or wheat) a little butter and a little jelly
6oz yoplait yogurt cup. ( usually strawberry or peach)
1 large banana ( slightly green is good because it takes longer to digest so it makes you feel fuller longer)
2 scoops of monster milk w/ 16oz of water. (50g protein)
1 pack multivitamin (GNC Sport packs)
2 fish oil tablets. (GNC brand also)

[t_jolt]

I will throw this out there. I am an ACE certified personal trainer. I will help anyone if they have questions. Give you a free workout, based on your goals. And depending on how serious you want to get, Im willing to take on a couple more clients for the time being.

Tyrel

[bulldog]

I will throw this out there. I am an ACE certified personal trainer. I will help anyone if they have questions. Give you a free workout, based on your goals. And depending on how serious you want to get, Im willing to take on a couple more clients for the time being.

Tyrel Anyone that wants real results, get a personal trainer! You may think you know a lot or can find it online, but nothing beats the knowledge of a good personal trainer that molds the exercises/diet specifically to you.

I was not a believer myself, and after about 3 years I plateued and could not get passed where I was stuck at. Got a personal trainer and within weeks I had passed where I had had been stuck at.

[PunyJuney]

Food matters, watch the movie. It's available for free until October 8.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/02/food-matters-the-movie.aspx?e_cid=20110926_DNL_artTest_A4

[3D]

Food matters, watch the movie. It's available for free until October 8.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/02/food-matters-the-movie.aspx?e_cid=20110926_DNL_artTest_A4


Good info in this. I'm glad u shared. It really opens your eyes.

[mtnairlover]

I need to lose it again. I don't have over 100#'s to lose this time like last time, but it's still not gonna be an easy task. I could use the motivation.

I've got a good idea of what I need to do only because of doing Weight Watchers the first time (from 2002 - 2005).

Everyone's body is different and I had a whole lotta problems the first time I lost a boatload of weight. I first went to see a nutritionist. I highly recommend anyone seeing a nutritionist. You should really get a good idea of what causes you to retain weight/fat/whatever you wanna call it.

After finding out that I had made my body insulin resistant, I bought the book, "The Insulin Resistance Diet." This is not a diet, though...this is life! The book talks about how to pair your foods so that your body is less likely to turn carbs/sugars into fat. The way to do that is to have enough protein in your diet and to not eat simple carbs. If you do eat carbs, make sure you eat complex carbs, like whole wheat pastas, whole grains, etc. And then just pair a certain amount of carbs along with a certain amount of lean protein. The protein is important because it metabolizes the carbs (burns em off).

Anyhoo, despite knowing what I should eat, I still regained a bit of the 100+ back because of stress, depression, etc. That stuff raises the bad hormone levels in the body which in turn holds onto the fat rather than allowing it to be burned off. Bad hormones also crave "comfort" foods...and voila, here I am...50+ pounds heavier and not feeling physically good.

I know...long story, huh?

Well, I got an invite in the mail to do a cardiovascular study at CUBoulder. It's for 45 - 65 years olds and it will determine my health. So I'm gonna attempt to partake in the study...well, first I have to be accepted into the study.

Thanks, Wicky for posting this thread. The other thing about my body is that I don't lose fast...it took me 2 1/2 years to lose 112 pounds the first time...so, I might be the only one posting in here after a while...maybe. ;)

[bulldog]

I need to lose it again. I don't have over 100#'s to lose this time like last time, but it's still not gonna be an easy task. I could use the motivation.

I've got a good idea of what I need to do only because of doing Weight Watchers the first time (from 2002 - 2005).

Everyone's body is different and I had a whole lotta problems the first time I lost a boatload of weight. I first went to see a nutritionist. I highly recommend anyone seeing a nutritionist. You should really get a good idea of what causes you to retain weight/fat/whatever you wanna call it.

After finding out that I had made my body insulin resistant, I bought the book, "The Insulin Resistance Diet." This is not a diet, though...this is life! The book talks about how to pair your foods so that your body is less likely to turn carbs/sugars into fat. The way to do that is to have enough protein in your diet and to not eat simple carbs. If you do eat carbs, make sure you eat complex carbs, like whole wheat pastas, whole grains, etc. And then just pair a certain amount of carbs along with a certain amount of lean protein. The protein is important because it metabolizes the carbs (burns em off).

Anyhoo, despite knowing what I should eat, I still regained a bit of the 100+ back because of stress, depression, etc. That stuff raises the bad hormone levels in the body which in turn holds onto the fat rather than allowing it to be burned off. Bad hormones also crave "comfort" foods...and voila, here I am...50+ pounds heavier and not feeling physically good.

I know...long story, huh?

Well, I got an invite in the mail to do a cardiovascular study at CUBoulder. It's for 45 - 65 years olds and it will determine my health. So I'm gonna attempt to partake in the study...well, first I have to be accepted into the study.

Thanks, Wicky for posting this thread. The other thing about my body is that I don't lose fast...it took me 2 1/2 years to lose 112 pounds the first time...so, I might be the only one posting in here after a while...maybe. ;) Hey losing 112 pounds is not an easy task and you had the willpower to stick to it and get it off, so this time it should be easier! You have the right direction already; proper nutrition - diet is so much more important than the actual exercise. Also like you consider this not a diet, but life! :up:

Oh and don't worry about being the only one posting in here, because to me fitness is life and I plan to do it till the day I die or my body won't let me anymore. I've felt that way for years, but just two days ago I was talking to a guy I always chat with at the gym. Anyways I always thought this guy was around my age, 33, but then he stated he was 48 years old and I was shocked! This guy is in great shape and I would not have put him a day over 40. He contributes it all to exercise and proper diet that he has been doing for over 20 years. I was sold, but that really cemented it for me!

[Sean]

I'm still starting on the first. Whether it's a program or just me on my own getting stuff done, I'm starting on Saturday. I ran 3.75 miles this morning...and it felt okay. Just can't keep the cycle going of getting fat in winter and loosing it all in summer. It's not healthy.

[InlineSIX24]

I'm not able to run or jog with my knee cartilage and stretched ACL, but I'd be up for some type of weekend mountain biking get-togethers.

[bulldog]

I'm not able to run or jog with my knee cartilage and stretched ACL, but I'd be up for some type of weekend mountain biking get-togethers. Eliptical? Works on my once broken hip since no impact

[3D]

I'm not able to run or jog with my knee cartilage and stretched ACL, but I'd be up for some type of weekend mountain biking get-togethers.

Just like Bulldog said. The elliptical machine works great. The row machine also works great.

[OUTLAWD]

hit the elliptical today after I lifted...I do want to start actually jogging though...signing up for a 5k in November to motivate my ass

[Sean]

I started doing some solid workouts on Friday, but today was my first day of Insanity.

09/03- 30 min of weights/core (good)
10/01- run 10k (very hard, serious GI issues)
10/02- run 5k (good, sub 9 pace)
10/03- Insanity day 1 (pretty easy)



BIG props to Mother Goose! :cheers:

[bulldog]

BTW, I'm starting on the 3rd, because the 1st is Saturday. :p So will Wicky start today?????
Of course I worked out all weekend and continue my life of soreness :D

[Mother Goose]

I started doing some solid workouts on Friday, but today was my first day of Insanity.

09/03- 30 min of weights/core (good)
10/01- run 10k (very hard, serious GI issues)
10/02- run 5k (good, sub 9 pace), ate lots of cookies.
10/03- Insanity day 1 (pretty easy)



BIG props to Mother Goose! :cheers:
Fixed. ;)


So will Wicky start today?????
Of course I worked out all weekend and continue my life of soreness :D
Yep! I'm not a morning workout person, so I'm doing it when I get home tonight. :up:

[Shea]

Missed the last week at the gym because of a new job. My body let me know about it this morning when I went to lift. While I look in no way like Bulldog (yet) I'm getting there...slowly. Unfortunately I am so used to working out in the morning I have to get used to doing it at night now.

My only advice is if you're a runner...get good shoes. I've been nursing a blown gastroc muscle (outside of the calf) and tendonitis in my achilles' for the last six weeks because of bad shoes.

Second piece of advice which kind of dovetails with Bulldogs statement about his arms... Realize that your body is unique and that you will make gains in some areas faster while in other areas it will seem like it takes forever to notice anything. Genetics are a bitch...

Anyway good luck Wicky, et al.

[Sean]

Fixed. ;)
Seriously! I was shocked that I was able to do that run. Ang's stomach was really hurting after mile 2. So what did I do for the last mile, yell at her and run faster! :lol: She was not having fun!

[bulldog]

Seriously! I was shocked that I was able to do that run. Ang's stomach was really hurting after mile 2. So what did I do for the last mile, yell at her and run faster! :lol: She was not having fun! Ya man, good job...that is alot of running and not easy! I've heard good things about Instanity (especially results), so let us know how it goes!

[Mother Goose]

Weighed myself this morning, 235. Damn you Sean and your Avery Stout! :lol:

[Sean]

Ya man, good job...that is alot of running and not easy! I've heard good things about Instanity (especially results), so let us know how it goes!You bet, I'll let you know. Sean T seems alright to deal with every morning. Day 1, the fit test, wasn't too hard and pretty short. I'm excited to get into the workouts.

The endurance stuff is much easier for me, I've been doing it for a few years. In July/aug I was averaging 20-25 miles per week running (along with biking 2-3 hours 2x a week and doing 2 master swims 2x a week!). But there's no jumping, crunches and push-ups in triathlon! :lol:


Weighed myself this morning, 235. Damn you Sean and your Avery Stout! :lol:Damn, I don't have a scale. And Wicky, hydration is the key to cardio training! The main ingredient in stout is water (and supreme goodness) :hump:

[Mother Goose]

Damn, I don't have a scale. And Wicky, hydration is the key to cardio training! The main ingredient in stout is water (and supreme goodness) :hump:
:yes: I drink water all throughout the day at work, so I'm good on the hydrating.

[Owen_R6]

Does anyone work at 24 hr fitness that can hook me up to join???

[bulldog]

Does anyone work at 24 hr fitness that can hook me up to join??? If you have the money up front best deal is to buy a two year membership at Costco; come out to like $14-$15 a month.

If you don't have a Costco membership I do so I could take you with me if you decided to do it.

[Sean]

What happened to Chris? Is he M.I.A.? I though he was going to join in our reindeer games? :dunno:

[Owen_R6]

If you have the money up front best deal is to buy a two year membership at Costco; come out to like $14-$15 a month.

If you don't have a Costco membership I do so I could take you with me if you decided to do it.

Wish I did...unfortunatley not anymore now that me and the gf aren't together anymore...paying full bills sucks lol, makes me reconsider the breakup!!!

[vort3xr6]

I am down 8 lbs. 20 more to go in 25 days.

[RajunCajun]

+1 for the 24 Hour membership. I've been working out there for about 2 years and love the gym.

[Sean]

Day 2 of Insanity complete.

It's really not that bad. Today was just a bunch of high-intensity cardio. Being new to it, I couldn't keep up 100% when they were going really fast, and my form would slip a little, but it wasn't "insane." Although I do really like it and think that it will yield a lot of really good benefits. I'm looking forward to having a base for his exercises, then I think it'll be really fun. Plus, it's something that Angela and I are doing together. Nothing wrong with having an even hotter girlfriend. :boobies:

[bulldog]

Wish I did...unfortunatley not anymore now that me and the gf aren't together anymore...paying full bills sucks lol, makes me reconsider the breakup!!! I did received this "LivingSocial" deal in my email today. Guess it is good for 2 months at some gym called "Snap Fitness" on south Holly. http://livingsocial.com/deals/100237?ctr=3&msdc_id=858

Also 24 Hour Fitness employees are like car salesmen and will negotiate on prices so don't take their first offer....haggle! Also most will give you a week free, but they will give you the whole "joining" spill and tour.

[Mother Goose]

Down 3 lbs in the first day. :D If I set my mind to it, I can lose weight fast. Probably helps that I threw up after the first work out. It's been a while. :shock:

[Sean]

Damn Wicky, be careful. Anorexia is not a good way to lose weight. Effective yes, but not good.

[grim]

Damn Wicky, be careful. Bulimia is not a good way to lose weight. Effective yes, but not good.

Fixed

[Sean]

FixedOops, sorry. Thanks Sean. :up:

[bulldog]

Down 3 lbs in the first day. :D If I set my mind to it, I can lose weight fast. Probably helps that I threw up after the first work out. It's been a while. :shock: Proud of you Hito :D Just don't get discouraged if you do not continue to lose 3 lbs a day because you will start turning fat into muscle and muscle weighs more than fat. Using weight to judge results is not the best way because of this, so judge it more on how your clothes are fitting.

[Mother Goose]

Damn Wicky, be careful. Anorexia is not a good way to lose weight. Effective yes, but not good.
:lol: It was not by choice. When I use to play basketball all the time, I would throw up from pushing too hard. Guess I'm not used to it anymore.


Proud of you Hito :D Just don't get discouraged if you do not continue to lose 3 lbs a day because you will start turning fat into muscle and muscle weighs more than fat. Using weight to judge results is not the best way because of this, so judge it more on how your clothes are fitting.
I know it. I was just surprised it was that much in 1 day. I know I have a lot of fat to lose in there, so my first month or so, I should be dropping some weight like this.

[Scatterbrain]

I'm with Sean. I'm sure we all have an idea of what workout works for us and what works for others but i can tell ya i just go to the gym and wing it and hope to get results.

[Scatterbrain]

I am tempted to join the P90X though but i heard it's a son of a b*tch.....

[Sean]

I am tempted to join the P90X ...blah, blah, blah..Then just do it! 8)

[bulldog]

I get near throwing up almost every workout; especially legs! Just shows you pushed yourself hard. Also if you are not sweating, you are not working out hard enough! :D

[OUTLAWD]

almost heaved at the end of my run today...

"If you ain't puking, you ain't pushing"

[Sean]

Really? Out of all of my workouts, I think I only almost threw up once this year. And that was trying to ride my bicycle up Olde Stage Rd to fast. Then again, maybe I'm just more manly than you guys are?

[OUTLAWD]

I am out of shape...what can I say

[Mother Goose]

I get near throwing up almost every workout; especially legs! Just shows you pushed yourself hard. Also if you are not sweating, you are not working out hard enough! :D
Oh, I was sweating like a pig, just ask Kristin. :lol:


Really? Out of all of my workouts, I think I only almost threw up once this year. And that was trying to ride my bicycle up Olde Stage Rd to fast. Then again, maybe I'm just more manly than you guys are?
Even when I was in shape, playing full court basketball for 3 hours straight.... I would still throw up. Granted, it was just water, it told me I was pushing a little hard.

BTW, met up with Clarkey last night and he told me about www.myfitnesspal.com. They have everything you can think of in the way of food, so you can log everything you eat, and your calories burned during a work out. They also have phone apps, so you don't have to jump on a computer to log everything. You can even scan the bar code of the thing you're eating and log it that way too.

[Sean]

That's why we are all doing this! To get back in shape and be healthy! Right now is probably the hardest part. If we keep it up, November will be much easier. :up:

[usmcab35]

BTW, met up with Clarkey last night and he told me about www.myfitnesspal.com (http://www.myfitnesspal.com). They have everything you can think of in the way of food, so you can log everything you eat, and your calories burned during a work out. They also have phone apps, so you don't have to jump on a computer to log everything. You can even scan the bar code of the thing you're eating and log it that way too.

might have to check that out!

[vort3xr6]

mmm 100 grams of shrimp over romaine with lemon juice.

150 calories for lunch.

[Owen_R6]

I'm looking to lose about 5 lbs of fat...and want to gain 20 lbs overall!

Gym starts tonight...

[Sean]

mmm 100 grams of shrimp over romaine with lemon juice.

150 calories for lunch.I can't eat that little amount of food, I'd crash. It sounds good, and healthy, but it's not a lot of fuel.

[Keyser Soze]

I can't eat that little amount of food, I'd crash. It sounds good, and healthy, but it's not a lot of fuel.

Doesn't shrimp have a ton of cholesterol too?

I had 2 bagels with cream cheese. 2 Cans of tuna and some cottage cheese. No calorie counting for me. The more the merrier :D

[vort3xr6]

The diet I am on calls for 500 calories or less per day.

[bulldog]

The diet I am on calls for 500 calories or less per day. Wow :o I once did a 5,000 calories a day diet. Not sure which is worse.....I thought all that eating would be great, but after a few weeks I was so sick of eating....and eating all day long, not to mention the cost of that much food/protein powder. :poo:

[Sean]

The diet I am on calls for 500 calories or less per day.Oh, you're on one of those "I'm going to starve myself until I get thin" diets? I hope you're not doing any physical activity while on the diet? No bueno, mi amigo.

[Keyser Soze]

The diet I am on calls for 500 calories or less per day.

I would not be able to function. That doesn't sound healthy at all.

[vort3xr6]

HCG diet. People have their opinions about it but I have family and friends who had huge success. No sugars, no starches. 500 calories with 200 grams of protein.

[Keyser Soze]

HCG diet. People have their opinions about it but I have family and friends who had huge success. No sugars, no starches. 500 calories with 200 grams of protein.

So uh..you're drinkin prego piss? :lol: :piss:

[vort3xr6]

So uh..you're drinkin prego piss? :lol: :piss:


Injecting.

It sucks at first but you get used to it. Plus it is a steady 1.5lb weight loss per day with 0 muscle mass loss without feeling hungry.

[Mother Goose]

Your ass is going to look like Keyser's sig. :yes: And I will be there to slap it.

[vort3xr6]

Your ass is going to look like Keyser's sig. :yes: And I will be there to slap it.


I promise at the end of this it wont jiggle when you slap it.

[Keyser Soze]

You do know that your body cannot synthesize that much protein in 2 meals, right? When all is said and done you're probably only getting 60 grams to support any lean muscle you have.

[vort3xr6]

You do know that your body cannot synthesize that much protein in 2 meals, right? When all is said and done you're probably only getting 60 grams to support any lean muscle you have.


Yes. If you read the protocol you can understand fully how it works, but studies show zero muscle mass loss, in fact, some show a gain in muscle mass.

[Mother Goose]

I don't like needles.

[usmcab35]

i did that diet for a month and a half and after the first week is was ok, i dropped about 40 lbs in a month and half. i did the drops, might do another round soon. it sounds impossible but with hcg its not bad and i kept all the weight off, I might raise my cal intake to 1000 a day so i can do a light workout everyday.

[vort3xr6]

i did that diet for a month and a half and after the first week is was ok, i dropped about 40 lbs in a month and half. i did the drops, might do another round soon. it sounds impossible but with hcg its not bad and i kept all the weight off, I might raise my cal intake to 1000 a day so i can do a light workout everyday.

True. I can see what you mean about not working out while on the 500 cal. I hauled a new dining room table up my stairs and almost passed out.

So far so good after 4 days I am 8lbs gone. About 25 days left. This diet is definitely not for everyone.

[usmcab35]

True. I can see what you mean about not working out while on the 500 cal. I hauled a new dining room table up my stairs and almost passed out.

So far so good after 4 days I am 8lbs gone. About 25 days left. This diet is definitely not for everyone.

yea its a very strict diet with no room for compromise. I felt a little better knowning that doctors can and do actually perscribe it to patients.. I only want to work out cause i love the gym and i felt like i was a lazy a** when i was on the drops and not going to the gym.

[vort3xr6]

yea its a very strict diet with no room for compromise. I felt a little better knowning that doctors can and do actually perscribe it to patients.. I only want to work out cause i love the gym and i felt like i was a lazy a** when i was on the drops and not going to the gym.

I just miss that delicious hoppy elixer called an IPA. :(

[Keyser Soze]

I've read a bit about it. I'm always trying to bulk so I am in the opposite situation. From what I understand, HGC can be a natural test booster. That in itself will help you stay lean, add in a ridiculously low amount of calories and there ya go. Heard of dudes using it during a cycle to keep their grapes intact, but it's used a little differently if I remember correctly. I've just never seen the reasoning for a "fad" diet. Just clean up your diet and bust your ass in the gym....or out on a trail...or somewhere :lol: But hey, if it works for ya, more power to ya.

[Owen_R6]

Ugh....I hate the gym...but even more than that, I ABSOLUTELY HATE PROTEIN!!!

First night done...

[vort3xr6]

I've read a bit about it. I'm always trying to bulk so I am in the opposite situation. From what I understand, HGC can be a natural test booster. That in itself will help you stay lean, add in a ridiculously low amount of calories and there ya go. Heard of dudes using it during a cycle to keep their grapes intact, but it's used a little differently if I remember correctly. I've just never seen the reasoning for a "fad" diet. Just clean up your diet and bust your ass in the gym....or out on a trail...or somewhere :lol: But hey, if it works for ya, more power to ya.


I don't know. Call me lazy but I like big catalysts to get my ass moving. I have never been the type to just change slowly. I figured, worst case scenario, I cleanse my body for a month with no booze, lots of raw veggies, etc, and go back to normal after. Best case scenario, this is the catalyst for a long term life change of eating.

[Sean]

Day 3 of Insanity

So today was a little harder. The actual physical intensity isn't bad, it's just that my calves and lower back are pretty f'ing sore. Once I warm up, it's not to bad, but the rest of the day it's kind of a pain in the ass. Pretty hard to get motivated in the morning when it hurts to walk down stairs. Otherwise the workout is good and pretty challenging. I def feel like I'm getting some solid exercise. If it weren't for the sore leg muscles I would be able to go a little deeper on some of the routines. For us, the key has been to get up early, and do it before your body wakes up. Otherwise I'd probably come up with way to many excuses not to do it. Don't know if I've lost weight, but I feel pretty good!

[bulldog]

Day 3 of Insanity

So today was a little harder. The actual physical intensity isn't bad, it's just that my calves and lower back are pretty f'ing sore. Once I warm up, it's not to bad, but the rest of the day it's kind of a pain in the ass. Pretty hard to get motivated in the morning when it hurts to walk down stairs. Otherwise the workout is good and pretty challenging. I def feel like I'm getting some solid exercise. If it weren't for the sore leg muscles I would be able to go a little deeper on some of the routines. For us, the key has been to get up early, and do it before your body wakes up. Otherwise I'd probably come up with way to many excuses not to do it. Don't know if I've lost weight, but I feel pretty good! Go buy some glutamine and take it after you get done working out; helps with soreness
Some info on it: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

[Sean]

Go buy some glutamine and take it after you get done working out; helps with soreness
Some info on it: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.htmlThanks, I'll check that out.

So far I've been using this to supplement my recovery. Link (http://www.dogfish.com/) Seems to work pretty well if you take enough. :dunno:

[Keyser Soze]

Go buy some glutamine and take it after you get done working out; helps with soreness
Some info on it: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

From what I've read you're body produces enough glutamine on it's own if you're diet is up to snuff. I've tried it a couple times over the years and didn't notice any difference at all. At least the price has dropped over the years so it's not too expensive to give it a shot.

Edit: the soreness will go away after you train for a few months. Try flexing whatever muscle group is sore, it squeezes out the lactic acid.

[bulldog]

Thanks, I'll check that out.

So far I've been using this to supplement my recovery. Link (http://www.dogfish.com/) Seems to work pretty well if you take enough. :dunno: :lol: I assume you meant that link to go to a beer? That may be your problem if you are serious; beer dehydrates you bad which leads to more muscle soreness. Water may be the issue here; take in more...and cut out the beer :D

[grim]

:lol: I assume you meant that link to go to a beer? That may be your problem if you are serious; beer dehydrates you bad which leads to more muscle soreness. Water may be the issue here; take in more...and cut out the beer :D

Dehydration leads to muscle cramps also which fucking suck!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mother Goose]

Try flexing whatever muscle group is sore, it squeezes out the lactic acid.
I love it when you talk dirty.

[Sean]

:lol: I assume you meant that link to go to a beer? That may be your problem if you are serious; beer dehydrates you bad which leads to more muscle soreness. Water may be the issue here; take in more...and cut out the beer :DYes, it was a joke. And yes, I drink lots of water and eat a very good/balanced diet. And no, I will never give up drinking a beer when I want, quality of life is much more important than minimal athletic improvements.

Besides, have you had their Punkin Ale? :rock:

[Mother Goose]

Mmmmm, beer. I haven't had one since Sunday. :( Been working out every evening, drinking tons of water (had 12 cups yesterday), and eating good stuff. Although I kind of cheated last night and had a garlic bread stick with dinner. :D But I was still under my calorie goal for the day.

[Sean]

Way to go, Wicky!

[Mother Goose]

And of course, Avery has to put this picture up on FB.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301415_10150391797206998_129355431997_10280063_160 5091197_n.jpg

[bulldog]

Yes, it was a joke. And yes, I drink lots of water and eat a very good/balanced diet. And no, I will never give up drinking a beer when I want, quality of life is much more important than minimal athletic improvements.

Besides, have you had their Punkin Ale? :rock: I agree, and also do the occasional beer. Just know it is one of the hardest things to workoff because they are considered "empty carbs" which means they have no nutritional value and therefore are harder to burn off than regular calories. Micro brew beers are even worse; so maybe you could try a light beer like Amstel Light or Sam Adams light; both not bad tasting for a light beer.

So often I see beer as the killer for workout goals; it has also been proven to lower testosterone levels, which are very important to fitness/muscles. Many years I could not figure out why I could be "buff" but with a belly...yup a beer belly!

I recommend this over beer....:siesta:(no calories and great for soreness :lol:)

[Keyser Soze]

Mmmmm, beer. I haven't had one since Sunday. :( Been working out every evening, drinking tons of water (had 12 cups yesterday), and eating good stuff. Although I kind of cheated last night and had a garlic bread stick with dinner. :D But I was still under my calorie goal for the day.

Dude, with you're body type you should be able to get fookin huge if you train right. Kudos to the no beer. I cant go more than a day or 2 without one. I actually take a 12 pack with me to the gym.

[Mother Goose]

Dude, with you're body type you should be able to get fookin huge if you train right. Kudos to the no beer. I cant go more than a day or 2 without one. I actually take a 12 pack with me to the gym.
Move back to Colorado, and I'll go with ya. ;)

[Keyser Soze]

I'm keepin my eyes peeled for jobs. Sure would be nice.

[Sean]

Micro brew beers are even worse; so maybe you could try a light beer like Amstel Light or Sam Adams light; both not bad tasting for a light beer.Be careful, son. Or I'm gonna have to find you and slap some sense into ya. 2-3 beers a week is not going to kill me. And I don't really have any fitness goals. I'm doing this to stay in shape, not get fat and try something new. I have no desire to be cut/built/musclebound or whatever you call it.


I recommend this over beer....:siesta:(no calories and great for soreness :lol:)This is a good option if you don't do any real cardio.

running a 10k + :siesta: = :(

[bulldog]

Be careful, son. Or I'm gonna have to find you and slap some sense into ya. 2-3 beers a week is not going to kill me. And I don't really have any fitness goals. I'm doing this to stay in shape, not get fat and try something new. I have no desire to be cut/built/musclebound or whatever you call it.

This is a good option if you don't do any real cardio.

running a 10k + :siesta: = :(
I agree, just throwing some education out there on the effects...Like I said I drink at least 2-3 beers a week. Now 2-3 beers a day is what starts to add up....which i use to do; mainlu because of this club and there "social events" :lol:

There are actually plenty of people that have cardio and do that; they probably just don't smoke it the old school way. Sh*t now you can even buy lollipops with it in them or a nice tasty cookie. You ever heard of Nick Diaz? He has his medical license and can go 5 MMA rounds and not tire out. Of course it is better to not do it, but i would say fitness wise it is better for you than alcohol :D

[Sean]

Out of anybody else that has done Insanity, how can you not feel like Rocky when the music kicks in towards the end? Every time, I feel like I'm running up the stairs in Philly and the music is just like that. It's kind of funny. "Come on y'all, dig deeper!"


There are actually plenty of people that have cardio and do that; they probably just don't smoke it the old school way. Sh*t now you can even buy lollipops with it in them or a nice tasty cookie. You ever heard of Nick Diaz? He has his medical license and can go 5 MMA rounds and not tire out. Of course it is better to not do it, but i would say fitness wise it is better for you than alcohol :DThat's cool. I had my days, but now I look forward to a nice micro brew and a MotoGP race. Life doesn't get much better.

[bulldog]

Thanks, I'll check that out.

So far I've been using this to supplement my recovery. Link (http://www.dogfish.com/) Seems to work pretty well if you take enough. :dunno: Ok, I was curious on this DogFish beer and calories.

60 Minute IPA: 209
90 Minute IPA: 294
Midas Touch: 307
Shelter Pale Ale: 168
120 Minute IPA: 450
Black and Blue: 290
Burton Baton: 320
Fort: 415
Red and White: 310
World Wide Stout: 372
Aprihop: 240
Chicory Stout: 185
Festian Peche: 160
Punkin Ale: 230
http://hailtheale.com/2009/03/25/calories-in-dogfish-head-beers/

Also found this on how long it takes to burn 100 calories
http://www.nowloss.com/100_calories.htm

I only did this for my curiosity, so please don't think I am knocking on you Sean; as stated I drink a few beers a week to, but I like to see how different beers compare in calories.

[Sean]

I only did this for my curiosity, so please don't think I am knocking on you Sean; as stated I drink a few beers a week to, but I like to see how different beers compare in calories.No offense taken. It's always good to be informed. To me, they are worth every empty calorie! :drool:

(Except for those crappy/hoppy IPA's)

[Mother Goose]

The thing for me is, I usually don't drink beer during the week, unless there's a beer in the fridge (Sean), I don't really think about it unless I'm sitting down to watch the 49ers beat up on some team that "supposed" to beat them. :D

[Sean]

There are actually a lot of ultra-endurance athletes that drink a beer for recovery. They usually do NA beer, but beer none the less. There's a lot of discussion on forums about it. I don't know if I subscribe to that idea, but it's interesting. And considering I finish my workout by 6:30 am, it may not be a good idea to start drinking.

Wicky- you can give them back if you want. Stout is like a protein shake for me (without the protein...or shake. Well, it's just good for you)

[Mother Goose]

Wicky- you can give them back if you want. Stout is like a protein shake for me (without the protein...or shake. Well, it's just good for you)
I only have 1 left, so I'm saving it for Sunday's game. Honer came over that afternoon and helped me drink some of them.

[Sean]

Day 4 of Insanity

Today was nice! It was more of a recovery type day that had a lot of stretching, yoga and core/balance. Which was great, because my calves and legs were sore as shit. I was not looking forward to the workout this morning. So to have it a nice, chill pace was good. The hardest part was holding the stretches for as long as he does. He really has you hold out these squats until your legs are on fire.

So far, week one hasn't been to bad. Looks like tomorrow is a new workout, and then Saturday is the same thing as Tuesday. I might ditch that and go for a 2 hour bike ride or 1 hour run, we'll see.

[bulldog]

Newest Pre-Workout I am excited to try; just got to finish my 1.M.R. first, but hearing great things about it.

NeuroCore http://www.muscletech.com/products/neurocore/index.shtml

http://www.nutrahealthsupply.com/images/dvd/neurocore45.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

I'm still on Jack3d. I love this stuff. Cheap and effective.

http://jack3d.blinkweb.com/uploads.00146500/00158912.jpg

[bulldog]

I'm still on Jack3d. I love this stuff. Cheap and effective.

http://jack3d.blinkweb.com/uploads.00146500/00158912.jpg
I actually have liked the 1.M.R. (BPI Labs) better because I have to use less of it to get the same effects of Jack3d. Now this Neurocore is suppose to be even stronger so hoping I can use even less than 1.M.R. I think they are saying it is already the #1 MuscleTech supplement, so I am going to give it a shot.

[3D]

I've thought about switching to neurocore when it first appeared and did a little research on it. It has the same main ingredients as Jack3d and is just as effective but at a "few" dollars more. This is Muscletech's way of trying to give Jack3d some competition on the market. IMO, the price just isn't right for neurocore when I can get the same results from a cheaper product. It's just not economical for my supplement budget. Some say neurocore gives them a better workout than Jack3d, but you gotta remember a few things when saying this. 1) when taking a new supplement, the reaction is more intense as opposed to when you have taken it for a while and your body is used to it's effects. (which is why you are supposed to "cycle" on and off) 2) Everyone's body reacts differently to supplements/workouts than the next guy. (what works for one doesn't always work for the others)

I also hear it tastes pretty horrible and it only comes in Fruit Punch.
For me, I'll stick with Jack3d because I know it works and the price is right. JMO though...

[bulldog]

I've thought about switching to neurocore when it first appeared and did a little research on it. It has the same main ingredients as Jack3d and is just as effective but at a "few" dollars more. This is Muscletech's way of trying to give Jack3d some competition on the market. IMO, the price just isn't right for neurocore when I can get the same results from a cheaper product. It's just not economical for my supplement budget. Some say neurocore gives them a better workout than Jack3d, but you gotta remember a few things when saying this. 1) when taking a new supplement, the reaction is more intense as opposed to when you have taken it for a while and your body is used to it's effects. (which is why you are supposed to "cycle" on and off) 2) Everyone's body reacts differently to supplements/workouts than the next guy. (what works for one doesn't always work for the others)

I also hear it tastes pretty horrible and it only comes in Fruit Punch.
For me, I'll stick with Jack3d because I know it works and the price is right. JMO though... Well Jack3d will not list how much 1.3 is in it, but Neurocore does and from what I have read it is suppose to be way more than Jack3d (claims 10X stronger). 3D have you tried 1.M.R.? I was up to two scoops with Jack3d and getting little pre-pump. I am now on my third container of 1MR and I can tell you it is much stronger than Jack3D and even though the scoop is a bit bigger (I only use 3/4 of the scoop), it is still more cost effective than Jack3d and I get better "pumps". As you said people react different, but since the ingredients are so similar I am hoping this Neorocore will be even more cost effective.

I do know someone that has tried it and says it is way stronger than Jack3d, but they have only taken it about a week now. They are really into pre-workouts, so I am going to take their advice and try it soon. I'll let you know.

[Sean]

Day 5 Insanity: Pure Cardio

That was tough. Ang and I had to pause it with 11 min left to stop and get some water. I think it's the hardest workout we've had so far. The weekend shouldn't be bad. Tomorrow's a repeat of Wed and Sunday is off. Pretty fun so far!

[bulldog]

Day 5 Insanity: Pure Cardio

That was tough. Ang and I had to pause it with 11 min left to stop and get some water. I think it's the hardest workout we've had so far. The weekend shouldn't be bad. Tomorrow's a repeat of Wed and Sunday is off. Pretty fun so far! Good job on sticking to it :up: Now why has everyone else that is doing this not really posted!

Wicky??? How many workouts did you do this week? :D

[dragos13]

Keep us posted Sean. I want to start the insanity workout for my next cutting phase.

Just started two months of bulking up again. Currenlty using the MuscleTech naNO Vapor Hardcore for pre-workout and GNC Beyond RAW Mass post-workout along with multi-pack vitamins and creatine. The Vapor Hardcore has been working great so far. Good pump that lasts a while after the workout.

bulldog, let me know how the 1MR works also!

[Sean]

Good job on sticking to it :up: Now why has everyone else that is doing this not really posted!
I think it helps me to keep posting up everyday. It's almost like I need to answer to the masses if I don't workout. But I really like working out. I've done 3-6 days a week for the past few years (3 during winter and 6 during summer) Plus, even more motivation, is that Angela and I are already seeing/feeling some little results.


Keep us posted Sean. I want to start the insanity workout for my next cutting phase.
:up: Cool Casey! If you want to borrow the discs when I'm done (Dec. 1) let me know. Happy to share.

[dragos13]

:up: Cool Casey! If you want to borrow the discs when I'm done (Dec. 1) let me know. Happy to share.

That would be awesome, Dec 1st should be right when I need to start :)

[bulldog]

bulldog, let me know how the 1MR works also! I've been on 1.M.R. for about three months and I like it over Jack3d; more cost effective since I use less and better energy/pump than Jack3d. Now Neurocorse is the next I will try and will give an update when I get some.

[Mother Goose]

Good job on sticking to it :up: Now why has everyone else that is doing this not really posted!

Wicky??? How many workouts did you do this week? :D
Why you gotta pick on the fat kid?! :lol: I've done all the workouts so far, and lost 5lbs so far. I won't be able to do the work out tonight because we have Kristin's little brother's birthday party tonight. BUT, we'll be playing dodgeball at the rec center (he's 14), so that will be my workout for tonight.

[3D]

3D have you tried 1.M.R.? I was up to two scoops with Jack3d and getting little pre-pump. I am now on my third container of 1MR and I can tell you it is much stronger than Jack3D and even though the scoop is a bit bigger (I only use 3/4 of the scoop), it is still more cost effective than Jack3d and I get better "pumps". As you said people react different, but since the ingredients are so similar I am hoping this Neorocore will be even more cost effective.

I do know someone that has tried it and says it is way stronger than Jack3d, but they have only taken it about a week now. They are really into pre-workouts, so I am going to take their advice and try it soon. I'll let you know.

I haven't tried 1.M.R. yet but was looking at it. From what you say, I may try it out for a cycle when I cycle off the Jack3d. Seems the price is about the same. I have been wanting to try BPI's Solid for a while though. I have been hearing pretty good results from people that take it.
Let me know how the Neurocore goes though. I may try it out if you have a good experience with it. The one thing they should do with neurocore is get some new flavors.... I truly have fruit punch...

[OUTLAWD]

I've been sticking to my plan for the most part...although allergies are kicking my ass

MWFS - lift/light cardio

TThSun - Run

down a couple pounds, but feel a ton better...but have been a bit lazy on the diet end...still have yet to cut out the booze

[bulldog]

Why you gotta pick on the fat kid?! :lol: I've done all the workouts so far, and lost 5lbs so far. I won't be able to do the work out tonight because we have Kristin's little brother's birthday party tonight. BUT, we'll be playing dodgeball at the rec center (he's 14), so that will be my workout for tonight.
Tough love man! :lol: If you know I will give you a hard time for not working out and blast you on the board, maybe it will motivate you to do it :D


I haven't tried 1.M.R. yet but was looking at it. From what you say, I may try it out for a cycle when I cycle off the Jack3d. Seems the price is about the same. I have been wanting to try BPI's Solid for a while though. I have been hearing pretty good results from people that take it.
Let me know how the Neurocore goes though. I may try it out if you have a good experience with it. The one thing they should do with neurocore is get some new flavors.... I truly have fruit punch... Right now bodybuliding.com has it where you buy the regular bottle size (224grams)and they give you a free 80 gram bottle of their new flavor "watermelon" free! http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bpisports/1-m-r.html

All because it won a 2011 Supplement award for "breakout brand of year". Check out some other products that won awards and are now on sale http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/supplement-awards-big-savings.html?mcid=PE-suppawards_1011&rmid=2011_suppawards_1011&rrid=5802017

Pretty sure you will like it as much if not more than Jack3D!

[Owen_R6]

I prefer 1mr to jack3d as well...

[Keyser Soze]

I think it helps me to keep posting up everyday. It's almost like I need to answer to the masses if I don't workout. But I really like working out. I've done 3-6 days a week for the past few years (3 during winter and 6 during summer) Plus, even more motivation, is that Angela and I are already seeing/feeling some little results.



So true. A training partner and a community that supports fitness helps out more than most people think. It's harder to bitch out on a workout when you have someone else there relying on you to show up and push them back. Good to have a spot every now and again and someone checkin your form too.

[Keyser Soze]

Good job on sticking to it :up: Now why has everyone else that is doing this not really posted!

Wicky??? How many workouts did you do this week? :D

Dude I'm down to working out 3 times a week and I've put on 10lbs in the last 2 months. 25lbs more to my goal :lol:

[Mother Goose]

Is the 1MR something I could take while doing Insanity? Or is it more of a gym, lifting thing?

[Keyser Soze]

Is the 1MR something I could take while doing Insanity? Or is it more of a gym, lifting thing?

I dont see any reason why you couldnt take it. Lotta people do.

[bulldog]

Dude I'm down to working out 3 times a week and I've put on 10lbs in the last 2 months. 25lbs more to my goal :lol: Well I don't consider you as counting since you have been lifting as long or longer than me :D Although 10 pnds in 2 months is good!


Is the 1MR something I could take while doing Insanity? Or is it more of a gym, lifting thing? If you are ok with energy drinks then I would say yes, although I would say to start of with Jack3d and do maybe a half a scoop and move up till you find the effect you want. Then 1MR after you get use to the Jack3d. These really help me after a long sday at work to get the energy/motivation to go.

[Mother Goose]

Energy drinks don't effect me. I can have a Monster and then go to bed with no issues. :lol:

[bulldog]

Energy drinks don't effect me. I can have a Monster and then go to bed with no issues. :lol: You should love Jack3d then. I say start with that one since I feel it is the weakest and will let you test if you like the feeling. First few times you may get a bit jittery but that goes away after a few uses; well did for me.

[Keyser Soze]

Energy drinks don't effect me. I can have a Monster and then go to bed with no issues. :lol:

With Jack3d, when your fingers start to tingle you know it's working.

[dragos13]

+1 for pre-workout drinks. Helps with muscle build, motivation, and energy needed to push yourself to the limits.

Just remember, a good diet is just as important as exercise. Wether you are trying to cut weight or build muscle, eating right will make all the difference. Also, this needs to be a 24/7 commitment. Don't slack or you are just setting yourself back.

[Keyser Soze]

+1

Todays food...

5:30AM Protein Shake with flax oil within 10 minutes of waking up
7:30AM 1/2 dozen old fashioned dunkin dough nuts with some coffee
9:00AM 3 greek yogurts followed by vitamins and salmon oil
10:30AM 2 bagels, 1 plain, 1 with cream cheese
12:30PM 1 Carls Junior Famous star Cheeseburger
2:30 PM 1 grilled chicken breast with a cup of brown rice
3:30PM Protein Shake
4:45PM 1/2 Sweet potato blended with peanut butter and milk
5:45PM Train so preworkout only
7:00PM Post work out protein shake and some fruit juice
8:30PM Baked potato with cottage cheese, maybe some eggs
Whenver before bed I have a casein shake

[bulldog]

+1

Todays food...

5:30AM Protein Shake with flax oil within 10 minutes of waking up
7:30AM 1/2 dozen old fashioned dunkin dough nuts with some coffee
9:00AM 3 greek yogurts followed by vitamins and salmon oil
10:30AM 2 bagels, 1 plain, 1 with cream cheese
12:30PM 1 Carls Junior Famous star Cheeseburger
2:30 PM 1 grilled chicken breast with a cup of brown rice
3:30PM Protein Shake
4:45PM 1/2 Sweet potato blended with peanut butter and milk
5:45PM Train so preworkout only
7:00PM Post work out protein shake and some fruit juice
8:30PM Baked potato with cottage cheese, maybe some eggs
Whenver before bed I have a casein shake
Dang this is a "bulk up" diet! Don't forget man, big is out and lean is in :lol: JK...but you planning to lean up after this bulk phase or are you just going for size?

[Keyser Soze]

Believe it or not, I stay pretty lean with this diet :lol: It's hard as hell for me to put weight on. My metabolism has yet to slow down. Last time I checked I was around 8%

[Mother Goose]

+1 for pre-workout drinks. Helps with muscle build, motivation, and energy needed to push yourself to the limits.

Just remember, a good diet is just as important as exercise. Wether you are trying to cut weight or build muscle, eating right will make all the difference. Also, this needs to be a 24/7 commitment. Don't slack or you are just setting yourself back.
I think that's something I need the most. It takes me a while to get into the workout, and I feel lazy for the first 5 or so minutes of it. I want to be excited to do it, and go all out for it. I think that's why I lose interest in working out so easily.


+1

Todays food...

5:30AM Protein Shake with flax oil within 10 minutes of waking up
7:30AM 1/2 dozen old fashioned dunkin dough nuts with some coffee
9:00AM 3 greek yogurts followed by vitamins and salmon oil
10:30AM 2 bagels, 1 plain, 1 with cream cheese
12:30PM 1 Carls Junior Famous star Cheeseburger
2:30 PM 1 grilled chicken breast with a cup of brown rice
3:30PM Protein Shake
4:45PM 1/2 Sweet potato blended with peanut butter and milk
5:45PM Train so preworkout only
7:00PM Post work out protein shake and some fruit juice
8:30PM Baked potato with cottage cheese, maybe some eggs
Whenver before bed I have a casein shake
Sweet Jesus, that's a lot of food! How much is your grocery bill each week?! :lol:

[Keyser Soze]

I think that's something I need the most. It takes me a while to get into the workout, and I feel lazy for the first 5 or so minutes of it. I want to be excited to do it, and go all out for it. I think that's why I lose interest in working out so easily.


Sweet Jesus, that's a lot of food! How much is your grocery bill each week?! :lol:

I must be addicted to the endorphins cause I cant wait to work out. Preworkouts make it even better. As my friend calls it "swole patrol!" :lol:

My grocery bill is steep. Milk...actually all dairy is expensive as hell right now. 1 to 2 chicken breasts a day also adds up. Hit the right stores and the right sales tho and you can do alright. It's made me more sale savy for sure.

[Mother Goose]

We get our chicken, milk and eggs at Costco, so it helps a little with stuff like that.

[bulldog]

I must be addicted to the endorphins cause I cant wait to work out. Preworkouts make it even better. As my friend calls it "swole patrol!" :lol:

My grocery bill is steep. Milk...actually all dairy is expensive as hell right now. 1 to 2 chicken breasts a day also adds up. Hit the right stores and the right sales tho and you can do alright. It's made me more sale savy for sure. Yup, I feel the exact same way about getting to the gym. Hell right now I get off in 30 minutes and can't wait because within 1 hour I will be in the gym...think after a while that endorhins rush is addicting...plus I love making gains and just feel better after a good workout.

When I did the 5000 calories a day it got so expensive, even just the protein powder alone was costing me over $100 a month; went through at least 2 fiive pound jugs a month...

Fine Rob, ignore my question on if you will lean out or are just going for size! :lol:

[Keyser Soze]

:lol: I'm goin for size right now. I wanna hit 225 and stay at the same BF % I'm at right now. Doing the Rugged Maniac in Nov. So we've been doing trail runs and long hikes to prepare, tough putting on any weight doing that shit.

[green_zx7r]

Have lost 69 pounds since February...

Work out six days a week... Weight lifting on MonWedFri, Cardio/Planks on TueThuSat. Rest up and no exercise on Sun.

Eat eggs/chicken for breakfast, salad for lunch, and basically skip dinner... Not recommending this to anyone. It just works for me and my weak slow digesting stomach.

Feeling DAMN good!!!

Downside? Going from size 42 to 32 pants and keep buying and wasting clothes as I shrink... Happy, but costly...

[Mother Goose]

That's awesome Yusuke!! :applause:

[green_zx7r]

That's awesome Yusuke!! :applause:

Thanks John, but honestly, if you start off as a serious FAT ASS like me, it's not hard to go down in weight... The good news is that I'm enjoying the workouts so I should be able to keep this going long term, not just a short term and rebound back to fatness...

Yusuke

[Mother Goose]

I've seen bigger. ;) But I'm glad you put your mind to it and kept with it. It's better in the long run. You have a beautiful daughter that probably wants her dad around for a long time. :up:

[Zach929rr]

Got my re-up of supplements coming at the beginning of next week. Back in the gym!

I'm already down ~15lbs since I started this at the beginning of August, and have been about 50/50 on sticking to the workout/eating regimen.

If I can get down to ~230, I'll just start hustling kids for their milk money instead of working.

[green_zx7r]

...You have a beautiful daughter that probably wants her dad around for a long time. :up:

Or at least until she's in the teens when she'll hate my guts and wishes I were dead! :D

I was around 270 lbs at the beginning of the year, always out of breath and lazy/tired... Got sick of being out of shape and eating bad, so one day I just started busting my ass every day. As of today, I'm down to 201 lbs. Since I'm only 5'10", I'd like to get to 185 lbs, but we'll see how far I can go...

[FZRguy]

That's great Yusuke! Def addicted to endorphins, off to Bally's now. Things change for me Oct 28....ACL reconstruction surgery. It will be hard lying on the couch for a couple weeks.

[Suki]

+1

Todays food...

5:30AM Protein Shake with flax oil within 10 minutes of waking up
7:30AM 1/2 dozen old fashioned dunkin dough nuts with some coffee
9:00AM 3 greek yogurts followed by vitamins and salmon oil
10:30AM 2 bagels, 1 plain, 1 with cream cheese
12:30PM 1 Carls Junior Famous star Cheeseburger
2:30 PM 1 grilled chicken breast with a cup of brown rice
3:30PM Protein Shake
4:45PM 1/2 Sweet potato blended with peanut butter and milk
5:45PM Train so preworkout only
7:00PM Post work out protein shake and some fruit juice
8:30PM Baked potato with cottage cheese, maybe some eggs
Whenver before bed I have a casein shake


HOLY SHIT that's a lot of chow!

[Sean]

Week 2, of Insanity

For me, it's getting easier. They are just starting to recycle workouts (Saturday's and today's was a repeat) and I already feel pretty good about it. To keep up at the exact pace, does really push you, and I can't keep it up all of the time, but it's not as hard as the first week. It was nice to have Sunday off, but the workouts are so short that I don't know if it's even necessary? After last Wednesday, my body never really felt too fatigued. The only thing that I've been doing outside of Insanity, is stretching more. I feel like they rush through stretching, and it's too important to rush through. So at night, when we are reading or watching TV, I'll do some extra stretches and it really helps out.

The good thing is that I can tell that I've lost weight already. I don't have a scale, but my clothes are fitting much looser and I'm starting to see some muscle. I have yet to locate my abdominal muscles, but I have faith that there in there...somewhere.

Also, Angela yelled at me when I told her I was reviewing my workouts the way I was. Just to add a disclaimer, the cardio aspect of these workouts isn't that hard for me. For the past couple of years I have done some very long cardio workouts and so endurance isn't an aspect that I had /have to work on. I'm not saying I'm great at it, I've just done a bunch. So if you try these workouts and think that I'm full of crap, you're right. I probably am.


+1

Todays food...

5:30AM Protein Shake with flax oil within 10 minutes of waking up
7:30AM 1/2 dozen old fashioned dunkin dough nuts with some coffee
9:00AM 3 greek yogurts followed by vitamins and salmon oil
10:30AM 2 bagels, 1 plain, 1 with cream cheese
12:30PM 1 Carls Junior Famous star Cheeseburger
2:30 PM 1 grilled chicken breast with a cup of brown rice
3:30PM Protein Shake
4:45PM 1/2 Sweet potato blended with peanut butter and milk
5:45PM Train so preworkout only
7:00PM Post work out protein shake and some fruit juice
8:30PM Baked potato with cottage cheese, maybe some eggs
Whenver before bed I have a casein shakeHoly mother f'ing food. I would be pushing 300 lbs if I ate that shit! I have pretty much the same food everyday.

6:30- 1/2 bagal w/cream cheese
9:00- Yogurt (we mix our own with greek yogurt, blue berries and a little agave) plus a banana.
12:00- Turkey sandwich on whole wheat w/mustard/cheese and some pretzels.
2:00- mixed nuts and an apple
6:30- meat/veggie/side

Besides coffee in the morning and the occasional beer, I only drink water.


Have lost 69 pounds since February...
Damn Yusuke! That's awesome!!!! :rock: Way to go, I hope you keep it up.

[Keyser Soze]

Holy mother f'ing food. I would be pushing 300 lbs if I ate that shit! I have pretty much the same food everyday.

6:30- 1/2 bagal w/cream cheese
9:00- Yogurt (we mix our own with greek yogurt, blue berries and a little agave) plus a banana.
12:00- Turkey sandwich on whole wheat w/mustard/cheese and some pretzels.
2:00- mixed nuts and an apple
6:30- meat/veggie/side

Besides coffee in the morning and the occasional beer, I only drink water.




And I'd disappear if I ate that much. There's no way I could have a decent workout with that little fuel.

[dragos13]

My normal diet (for gaining weight)

5:30 Corn flakes with Whey Protein mix and berries
8:30 3 scrambled eggs with ham or sausage
11:00 Turkey or chicken sandwich
1:30 Greek yogurt with fruit along with almonds
3:30 Pre-workout drink Muscletech naNO Vapor
5:30 Post workout drink GNC Beyond Raw Rebuilt-MASS
7:30 Dinner - meat and veggies. Usually chicken or fish
9:00 Cottage cheese

This includes daily vitamins (GNC Mega-Men Sport), fish oil, and Creatine Hydrochloride. Also about 80-120oz of water.

[bulldog]

My normal diet (for gaining weight)

5:30 Corn flakes with Whey Protein mix and berries
8:30 3 scrambled eggs with ham or sausage
11:00 Turkey or chicken sandwich
1:30 Greek yogurt with fruit along with almonds
3:30 Pre-workout drink Muscletech naNO Vapor
5:30 Post workout drink GNC Beyond Raw Rebuilt-MASS
7:30 Dinner - meat and veggies. Usually chicken or fish
9:00 Cottage cheese

This includes daily vitamins (GNC Mega-Men Sport), fish oil, and Creatine Hydrochloride. Also about 80-120oz of water.

Do you know how many calories this is? Rob, how many calories on what you posted? Just wondering if it even came to the 5,000 I had to do.

[dragos13]

Do you know how many calories this is? Rob, how many calories on what you posted? Just wondering if it even came to the 5,000 I had to do.


I'm at about 2,500-3,000 calories and 180-200 grams protein.

[Keyser Soze]

I dont count the calories at all, Nate. Just eat as much as I can.

[bulldog]

Thanks guys! Wish I could find my meal plans from that 5,000 a day schedule; it was discusting how much I ate. The amount I eat now is still pretty bad since I need so much protein to not lose muscle mass.

One thing what worked well for me when in the "gaining" phase was eating at least a tablespoon of peanut butter right before bed. It is a slow protein and takes all night to digest; therefore protein while you sleep. Casein protein is also good for this!

[green_zx7r]

Damn Yusuke! That's awesome!!!! :rock: Way to go, I hope you keep it up.

Thanks Sean! I certainly hope to continue my workout/diet. Nothing serious and intense like you guys, but enough to keep me healthy! :)

[OUTLAWD]

One thing what worked well for me when in the "gaining" phase was eating at least a tablespoon of peanut butter right before bed. It is a slow protein and takes all night to digest; therefore protein while you sleep. Casein protein is also good for this!

I do some cottage cheese...sits a bit lighter for me when I'm sleeping...or after dinner if i'm still hungry and craving something sweet, I'll do cottage cheese, peanut butter, and some sugar free preserves mixed up...it sounds gross, but tastes like PB&J...

[Sean]

I do some cottage cheese...sits a bit lighter for me when I'm sleeping...or after dinner if i'm still hungry and craving something sweet, I'll do cottage cheese, peanut butter, and some sugar free preserves mixed up...it sounds gross, but tastes like PB&J...How's the jogging coming?

[t_jolt]

Thanks guys! Wish I could find my meal plans from that 5,000 a day schedule; it was discusting how much I ate. The amount I eat now is still pretty bad since I need so much protein to not lose muscle mass.

One thing what worked well for me when in the "gaining" phase was eating at least a tablespoon of peanut butter right before bed. It is a slow protein and takes all night to digest; therefore protein while you sleep. Casein protein is also good for this!

Nate i use to eat 2 eggs before bed as well, i would give that i try :)

Egg protein takes the longest to digest at a little over 4 hours.

Tyrel

[FZRguy]

One thing what worked well for me when in the "gaining" phase was eating at least a tablespoon of peanut butter right before bed. It is a slow protein and takes all night to digest; therefore protein while you sleep. Casein protein is also good for this!

A whole tbsp? :lol: I eat at least 800 calories before bed and still don't gain any weight...not that I'm trying to gain weight. For me, the more calories the better.

[bulldog]

A whole tbsp? :lol: I eat at least 800 calories before bed and still don't gain any weight...not that I'm trying to gain weight. For me, the more calories the better. I can make you gain weight for sure if you ever decide to do it John...but you will have to stop all that crazy long cardio and hit lift some heavy weights! :D

So I have a funny story from the gym yesterday. Talking to this guy that is ripped and huge asking him if he still is taking Jack3d. He says "no, I am not taking anything right now....well except testosterone". He then stumbles his words thinking maybe he shouldn't of said that and continues with "well stuff you can buy from GNC". I am say "natural testosterone boosters or pro-hormones?." Still fumbling his words he says "yeah pro-hormones". So I ask "oh yeah what brand are you using, I am always curious what works best for people". He tells me "ummm...I don't remememer the name of it"..... :lol: Yeah right guy is taking straight testosterone (basically roids) and it explains why he is so big and ripped (he was benching 450 pnds yesterday). Oh, and no I do not recommend this or think it is cool....had a cousin do roids for his last two high school years and he got breats cancer at 24; which he claims is not related...yeah right.

[Sean]

Week 2, day 2 of Insanity

Today we had a repeat of the "Pure Cardio" episode. It's pretty hard. It's basically straight, hard cardio exercises for 30 with one break. A lot of jumping and hard core exercises. As I said the last time I did this workout, it's the hardest one I've done of the program, so far. But the good news, is that Angela and I both made it through the whole thing a little easier than last time, which shows that there is improvement. Last time, we had to pause it with 11 min left (right before the knee kicks) and this time we didn't pause it at all. I can't keep the pace that he does on everything, but at least I can stay with it the entire time. Which to me is an accomplishment. Especially since it's only been a week and a half.

Another positive thing that I noticed today, is that I'm not nearly as sore as I was at this time last week. My lower back is a little tight, but nothing bad. It's nice to be able to see small results in such a short amount of time.

And I have to say that it's kind of nice having such a short workout each day. 30-45min is much easier than what I was doing this summer. I can get up around 5:40, do the workout, get my lunch ready, drive to boulder and be at my desk by 7:15. Then I'm done for the day and I can relax at night without the thought of a workout lingering in my head all day long. Y'all need to get going with this and join in!

[Mother Goose]

So, sore, right, now.

[Sean]

So, sore, right, now.
I'm glad you're sticking with it! That's awesome! Keep it up Wicky. :up:

[Mother Goose]

I'm glad you're sticking with it! That's awesome! Keep it up Wicky. :up:
Of course! I can't let you down! ;)

[bulldog]

Another positive thing that I noticed today, is that I'm not nearly as sore as I was at this time last week. My lower back is a little tight, but nothing bad. It's nice to be able to see small results in such a short amount of time. The soreness should get less intense as you do it more and stick to it. Honestly I think I have been sore in at least one part of my body for the last 5 years, but it is not that "just starting" soreness where it is miserable. I am at the point now if I don't get sore then I feel I did not work out hard enough and look for the soreness!


So, sore, right, now.
Drink lots of water today and try to stretch out every once in a while

[Sean]

Of course! I can't let you down! ;)
:makeout:

Betta watch out! We're going to be the best looking and fittest guys in the CSC.* All the ladies are going to want a Wicky/Shiny calendar or something. :hump:







* You're going to need to ban Nate. Cool?

[Sean]

The soreness should get less intense as you do it more and stick to it. Honestly I think I have been sore in at least one part of my body for the last 5 years, but it is not that "just starting" soreness where it is miserable. I am at the point now if I don't get sore then I feel I did not work out hard enough and look for the soreness!
Yeah, I'm not sure there were any days this summer (or last) when my legs didn't hurt. Even mixing up all three triathlon disciplines, my legs were always sore in different spots. And I was perpetually tired due to the long workouts. The only upside is that I slept REALLY well at night! :lol:

[bulldog]

Yeah, I'm not sure there were any days this summer (or last) when my legs didn't hurt. Even mixing up all three triathlon disciplines, my legs were always sore in different spots. And I was perpetually tired due to the long workouts. The only upside is that I slept REALLY well at night! :lol: You ever heard of this stuff; I guess a lot of runners/bikers swear by it. I use it for snowboarding and it really made a difference for my legs to not get sore/burn during the activity.

http://www.manekineko.us/catalog/images/product/sport_legs_120caps_enlarge.jpg

http://www.sportlegs.com/about/welcome.asp


P.S. Don't let Wicky fool you, he is already a mack daddy with the women...well woman now, but he could teach me a thing or two!

[Zach929rr]

So BB.com stiffed me on the Omega-3 pills in my first order from them since they are apparently on "backorder".

Should I bother going down to the store and buying some to use this week, or just wait for them to get more in a week or two?

[3D]

So BB.com stiffed me on the Omega-3 pills in my first order from them since they are apparently on "backorder".

Should I bother going down to the store and buying some to use this week, or just wait for them to get more in a week or two?

GNC was running a special on their fish oil. Not sure if it's still on sale, but I picked up a 360 count bottle for $9 a few weeks ago. If you don't wanna wait, I'd check them out. It will last me about 6 more months.

[Sean]

You ever heard of this stuff; I guess a lot of runners/bikers swear by it. I use it for snowboarding and it really made a difference for my legs to not get sore/burn during the activity.
No, I don't really like taking stuff to cover up/ease the pain. I just do water, stretching and Arnica (rarely). I always want to know exactly how my body is feeling. Learning to push through the pain and keep going is part of triathlon.

[Mother Goose]

P.S. Don't let Wicky fool you, he is already a mack daddy with the women...well woman now, but he could teach me a thing or two!
I don't know what you're talking about. :dunno::devious:

[bulldog]

So BB.com stiffed me on the Omega-3 pills in my first order from them since they are apparently on "backorder".

Should I bother going down to the store and buying some to use this week, or just wait for them to get more in a week or two?
If you are talking about bodybuilding.com, then call them and explain and I bet they will overnight it for free. I've had issues like that with them and product was at my door the next day; they have great customer service. Like 3D said it is just fish oil, so you could buy it anywhere; even Walgreen's sells it. I buy mine at Costco for like $10 you get this giant bottle of it.


No, I don't really like taking stuff to cover up/ease the pain. I just do water, stretching and Arnica (rarely). I always want to know exactly how my body is feeling. Learning to push through the pain and keep going is part of triathlon. I don't think it "masks" the pain at all, just reduces lactid acid which causes the burn. As you can tell though I am big into supplements (mainly because they work, but who knows maybe i will get cancer from them one day...hope not haha)

[Keyser Soze]

So, sore, right, now.

Use lube dude.

[Sean]

I don't think it "masks" the pain at all, just reduces lactid acid which causes the burn. As you can tell though I am big into supplements (mainly because they work, but who knows maybe i will get cancer from them one day...hope not haha)You're right, it may not mask the pain. But when it comes to endurance stuff, I just really like to know what is going on with my body at all times. It's so easy to over train or lose form that I've never wanted to risk it. The only supplements I would ever really take were salt and gels. It's cool that you are into them, they obviously work well for you. :up:

[Mother Goose]

Use lube dude.
You said you'd spit on it.

[R1-Laubinero]

im giving up soda...cardio everyday-- plus weight training---

[bulldog]

Just ordered 15 pounds of protein...uggh $133 shipped :puppy:

[Sean]

Just ordered 15 pounds of protein
:shocked:

[3D]

Just ordered 15 pounds of protein...uggh $133 shipped :puppy:

What do you use? I use monster milk for my morning and night shakes and the GNC amplified wheybolic extreme 60 for my post workout.

[OUTLAWD]

You should love Jack3d then.

I am trying to get away from supplements and just handle everything with diet (and save some $$$ :lol:), but when I was taking a similar NO type product, it was awesome. I would think I was about done, then bang out another set...stuff impressed me

[Keyser Soze]

Just ordered 15 pounds of protein...uggh $133 shipped :puppy:

Is that the Optimum sack? That's not that bad of a price.

[Sean]

Week 2, day 3 of Insanity

Shaun T. tricked me (or I just wasn't paying attention. I'll blame it on him). I thought today was the cardio/yoga/low key/stretching day, but no, it was interval training. With lack of sleep and not getting home till late, it wasn't my best workout. All and all, not to bad, but it could have been better. It's the third time I've done this episode, so I could get through it, but now I'm really looking forward to tomorrow.

Again, the one thing I don't really like about his programs is that he doesn't do enough stretching. And he doesn't mix up the stretching. The way he does it, doesn't really work that well for me. I've started to incorporate my own "alternate" stretches at some points. Especially calves. So if you try this program, give yourself an extra couple of minutes to stretch out till you feel good. He only allows 3-4 min twice an episode.

FYI: "ski abs" are a bitch! But on the upside, for the first time in a long time, I had to use a belt for my pants this morning. :rock:

[dragos13]

Nice bro sounds like things are going good! Do you feel like the workouts incorporate the entire body and help trim down overall body fat? Dropping waist size is definitely a good sign :)

[bulldog]

What do you use? I use monster milk for my morning and night shakes and the GNC amplified wheybolic extreme 60 for my post workout. I am lactose intolerant so I have to take a whey isolate and have found I like Dymatize Elite Whey Isolate the best. It also contains a proprietary digestive enzyme blend (Zytrix) to help amplify absorption, and to make Elite even more agreeable to lactose intolerant individuals. I used Muscle Milk for years too since it has no lactose, but for some reason I got tired of it because it was a bit sweet. I actually like the taste of Dymatize better now. I buy different flavors and just ordered Cafe Mocha, Butter Toffee (I like to mix with the Mocha), and Pina Colada (I mix fruit with it).
http://www.dymatize.com/clientuploads/directory/products/elitewhey_5lb.jpg
http://www.dymatize.com/products/protein/88/elite-whey-protein/

[Sean]

Cookies and Cream Muscle Milk :drool:

I thought that Muscle Milk was supposed to be one of the worst protein drinks out there for you?