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TransNone13
Wed Dec 28th, 2011, 09:26 AM
These pending legislations will change the internet as we know it if they come to pass. They allow the government, on the behalf of IP holders, to black-list and mandate the removal of sites deemed in violation by their removal from the US DNS registries and payment services. DMCA has nothing on these bills and there is no due process for DNS removal or takedown notices; and we all know IP holders often disregard Fair Use and Safe Harbor laws. Scary stuff, sounds like our internet may devolve to the likes of Iran's of China's. I've already called my representatives, signed petitions, and sent emails. Not much more I can do but raise awareness.

FYI:

http://techpp.com/2011/12/28/sopa-its-concerns-and-what-can-you-do-to-stop-it/

http://techpp.com/2011/12/28/sopa-its-concerns-and-what-can-you-do-to-stop-it/

rforsythe
Wed Dec 28th, 2011, 09:39 AM
Yeah, it's really about as bad as it sounds too. MANY prominent people, companies, etc are against SOPA and what it will mean.

GoDaddy lost over 18,000 domains in one day this week in a protest over their support of this shit legislation before they recanted. I will not support any company that is actually behind this BS, and am probably moving my domains off of GoDaddy as well just because they actually thought it was a good idea.

TurboGizzmo
Wed Dec 28th, 2011, 10:08 AM
I know i use to have all my domains on these smaller mom and pop domain shops and then they would get sold or move or close down and my domains would be jacked for a week while they figured out how to manage them so i moved to big brother (GoDaddy) not because there website is super awesome or there customer service but because they didnt appear to be going anywhere and I barely use any of their services other than domain name host.....DNS elsewhere, email servers run at home, hosting at home, etc......so now I am at a point of wondering if i should play along and F the man at the possible expense of income impacting downtime or continue to watch it all play out.

biikChiQ
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 12:44 AM
This isn't cool. alot of my favorite sites are gonna be in jeopardy!

I had seen the thread some time ago but didn't sound too interesting until i went on one of my fave websites and they had the same notice, which brought me back here.

Like someone stated, "The freedom, innovation, and economic opportunity that the Internet enables is in jeopardy"

Ghost
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 03:01 AM
Again, like seemingly all these issue that may affect us--NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Patriot Act, etc.--they exist in a vacuum beyond our ability to influence, alter or change.

Sure, I'm opposed to SOPA and PIPA, but despite signing petitions, emailing representatives, and the rest, I've a feeling that since I'm not a major contributor like those pushing for it, I won't be heard, and these things will pass...

I'd like to think I'm just being cynical, but my cynicism seems well-grounded in reality...

stubbicatt
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 05:55 AM
Yep. Keep the peasants ignorant and working hard for the nobles...

Alternative news sites might be harder to locate, which means we get the party line only.

salsashark
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 08:12 AM
I'm very interested to see if:
A. Nuclear Monday happens
B. If it does, will it have an impact

Darth Do'Urden
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 08:13 AM
Very aware and very pissed off about it. I truly hope that some other big names like Google, Amazon, etc. get on board and participate in the blackout on Wednesday next week. A Google blackout would be tantamount to a real-world apocalypse. I totally want everyone to witness what it could be like if SOPA goes through.


I'm very interested to see if:
A. Nuclear Monday happens

The blackout is set for the 18th--Wednesday next week.

salsashark
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 08:14 AM
^^ Has it moved to Wed? Last I heard, the black out (Nuclear Monday) was on the 23rd... The day before congressional debate begins.

salsashark
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Just found this... Hearings have been delayed. aka We're going to back burner this until the american public lose interest and find something else to focus on... then, it'll get pushed through quietly.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120113/23560217407/sopa-delayed-cantor-promises-it-wont-be-brought-to-floor-until-issues-are-addressed.shtml

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/dns-sopa-provision/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Ind ex+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher


...and all this from the people who think the internet is a series of tubes.

salsashark
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 08:33 AM
Yeah, it's not about money or anything.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/under-voter-pressure-members-of-congress-backpedal-on-sopa.ars?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Te chnica+-+Featured+Content%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher


Another member of Congress that has been feeling the heat from voters is Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI). After reddit members raised $15,000 in 48 hours for his anti-SOPA challenger, Ryan came out with a clear statement of opposition to the legislation.

Nooch
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sure, I'm opposed to SOPA and PIPA, but despite signing petitions, emailing representatives, and the rest, I've a feeling that since I'm not a major contributor like those pushing for it, I won't be heard, and these things will pass...


A few of the major contributors AGAINST SOPA/PIPA:
Ebay
Facebook
Google
Twitter
Yahoo
PayPal
Tumblr



Just found this... Hearings have been delayed. aka We're going to back burner this until the american public lose interest and find something else to focus on... then, it'll get pushed through quietly.


The media is already choking it out...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120108/00533117331/study-confirms-news-networks-owned-sopa-supporters-are-ignoring-sopapipa.shtml


Also, here is a short list of petitions for those interested.

http://americancensorship.org/

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions ("Stop the E-PARASITE Act")

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/

http://stopcensorship.org/

Ezzzzy1
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 10:36 AM
This is a great link - www.craigslist.org/about/sopa

rforsythe
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 11:07 AM
I can almost guarantee you eBay and Paypal are not shutting down for a day on Wednesday, or any other day, to protest this. The immediate and lasting financial impact would be huge.

Nooch
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 11:15 AM
I can almost guarantee you eBay and Paypal are not shutting down for a day on Wednesday, or any other day, to protest this. The immediate and lasting financial impact would be huge.

Im sure you are right. But they are still contributing funds to oppose SOPA.

rforsythe
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Im sure you are right. But they are still contributing funds to oppose SOPA.

As they should. I just question whether this Internet Apocalypse is for real, or just anti-SOPA hype.

King Nothing
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 11:24 AM
I'm very interested to see if:
A. Nuclear Monday happens
B. If it does, will it have an impact
I hope:
A. I hope it does.
B. I hope it does.

Nooch
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 11:31 AM
As they should. I just question whether this Internet Apocalypse is for real, or just anti-SOPA hype.

I know of 2 sites that have extensively sent out notifications and ads saying they will be blacking out on the 18th. Im sure there are more. I dont really see how it will have any real impact on SOPA though, aside from perhaps raising awareness?

Darth Do'Urden
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 02:41 PM
I just question whether this Internet Apocalypse is for real, or just anti-SOPA hype.

It's a matter of maintaining a free internet, devoid of government control and censorship. The government loves loopholes in order to choke out whatever "cause" some anal dipshit Senator or Congressman decides to take up.

And as someone else stated (I forget where), declaring some sort of martial law on piracy will do more harm to legitimate businesses/corporations (that are trying to stamp it out) than piracy itself could EVER do. Friggin' morons.

If your business model can't survive in the 'net age (piracy or not), then you need to re-evaluate your model. Trying to get the government to intervene in order to keep your dying model in business is just wrong.

willb003
Sat Jan 14th, 2012, 06:39 PM
I hope Google goes black, that would really rise awareness.

Also you can call and leave voice mail for congress. Dont know if it will actually do anything/

salsashark
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
...and the beat goes on.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248552/petition_seeks_probe_of_mpaa_bribery_over_sopa.htm l#tk.rss_news


A petition to investigate alleged bribery of politicians by the Motion Picture Association of America was created Saturday at the activist website "We the People" by a Texas man.

The petition, which has garnered nearly 7000 signatures in the first day after it was posted January 21, calls on the Obama Administration to investigate MPAA CEO Chris Dodd, a former U.S. senator, and his organization for remarks he made on a cable news network.

According to "Michael L," the creator of the petition, Dodd's remarks on Fox News were "open admission of bribery and a threat designed to provoke a specific policy goal." A section of the White House site invites people to create petitions and gather signatures on any issue.

Graphite675
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 04:57 PM
SOPA, PIPA or not it looks like the Gov is still on the move to shut down these sites. The FBI just shut down a couple of file sharing sites today. Filesonic, Megaupload, and Fileserve. Word is they are threatening all the others as we speak.


I actually belong to filesonic and just tried to download a legitimate file (custom android ROM) and was greeted by a big FBI warning and no access. Sucks because not only are they blocking the pirates but they are blocking the legitimate users as well.


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Scatterbrain
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:21 PM
I think this is insane and can't believe that it's actually being considered. What happened to freedom of speech...

Graphite675
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:28 PM
This is what you see if you go to megaupload now...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff375/Triple8Racing/banner.jpg


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longrider
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 08:16 PM
Looks like there might be more to the megaupload story:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46094799

Also, did he really change his name to Kim Dotcom?????????????

Ezzzzy1
Sun Jan 22nd, 2012, 09:13 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/Ezzzzy1/201201191642.jpg

TurboGizzmo
Mon Jan 23rd, 2012, 09:37 AM
Looks like there might be more to the megaupload story:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46094799

Also, did he really change his name to Kim Dotcom?????????????

....umm you dont make money off hosting a site just to send files too big for email....not surprised.

Zenshu
Tue Jan 24th, 2012, 09:19 PM
Completely off topic but while looking into those petition websites I saw some really stupid ones....like one trying to remove the religious preference question from military entry processing because it "puts undue stress on applicants to conform to the predominately christian military...do these fucktards even do research before they start a petition? the only reason that question is asked is so that the military can provide the desired religious services upon death...fucking retards