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swademaster
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 10:47 AM
nevermind

brennahm
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:07 AM
I thought it was illegal to hunt anything other than small game with .22?

grim
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:09 AM
:down:

mdub
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:10 AM
hmmm yum der meat...

Scatterbrain
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:11 AM
sounds like chislic is comin.......:)

spdu4ia
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:11 AM
if thats your thing....

grim
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:19 AM
if thats your thing....

:up:

bulldog
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 12:16 PM
I thought it was illegal to hunt anything other than small game with .22? DELETED...guess it was illegal :(

EDIT: I was curious. Looks like there is one exception and that is a .22 caliber rimfire magnum cartridge. All others show illegal http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/12/title12sec11454.html

RajunCajun
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 02:36 PM
Unless you are starving somewhere, why in the hell would you hunt a deer with a .22?? Squirrels, rabbits, raccoons, armadillo, opossum, alligators, nutria rats, sure done all that...., but deer???

Reyven
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 02:49 PM
DELETED...guess it was illegal :(

EDIT: I was curious. Looks like there is one exception and that is a .22 caliber rimfire magnum cartridge. All others show illegal http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/12/title12sec11454.html

Some states do allow .22 caliber. Nebraska in particular does.
http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/hunting/guides/biggame/deer/pdf/deermaster.pdf

brennahm
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sorry Wade, you always seemed like a nice guy. I'm sure you weren't aware of the regs. Guess PM would've been more appropriate. Congrats to your son regardless!

And it's state regs, nothing smaller than .240 for big game.

TransNone13
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:21 PM
What's the reasoning behind it? Just curious, is it to prevent people from hunting without people hearing it?

Ezzzzy1
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:26 PM
What's the reasoning behind it? Just curious, is it to prevent people from hunting without people hearing it?

Mostly the size of the bullet. Yes people that dont want to get caught hunting use smaller caliber guns so they are not heard but killing a larger animal (humanely) is harder and harder the smaller the bullet. A good shot can kill anything but the "kill zone" gets smaller with smaller rounds.

.22 tend to deflect and ricochet as well causing a lot of internal bleeding and possible suffering.

Wrider
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:27 PM
FWIW Colorado states it must be a centerfire cartridge of no less than .24 caliber.

Wade, congrats to your son though from what I'm gathering!

Reyven
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:33 PM
This was not a CO hunt, it was in NE, where .22 cal is legal.

Congrats to Blake for his first deer, that's a big deal!

RajunCajun
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 03:51 PM
Legal or not, I find it odd that even a young child would use a .22 for a deer. My first gun was 4-10 with slugs. Granted, we hunted in the swamp and rifles weren't as affective as shotguns in such thick brush. Oh well... I guess he can shoot! Congrats on his first kill, that's a pretty sweet day for a kid:)

swademaster
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 04:22 PM
I am fully aware of the regs. We were in NE, not CO. The rifle was a .22 Mag, not a regular .22. Pics were removed as it seemed the drama was already starting like normal on the CSC.

Blake is only 8 and is already an excellent shooter. This deer was dead before it hit the ground. He put the bullet in the neck exactly where I told him to. Hunting has been part of my family for generations and will continue to be.

mdub
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 04:39 PM
i use to hunt when i was growing with my dad...ever since i left i have not. both my dad and brother are professional guides. they hunt the does for meat. to thin out, as well. but for almost 15 yrs now they only use bows.

the pics were awesome. imagine his delight when bags his first buck.

Lomax
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:02 PM
I think this is GREAT. Give my congratulations to Blake for a job VERY well done.

Marc

Clovis
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:18 PM
Here's my contribution to the CSC drama fest!

They're pretty cute until they go all Allahu Akbar on your ass.

http://www.madebywhite.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/baby-deer-1-500.jpg

http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-pictures/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cute-baby-deer-fawn.jpg

http://www.highlandlakesumc.org/images/Baby%20Deer.JPG

mdub
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:22 PM
i almost kill'd a few with my bike..

Ezzzzy1
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:33 PM
I popped one... with my car! While going just about as fast a bullet :lol:

Sorry Grim :(

Clovis
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:48 PM
Just curious, why would you use a .22? I'm not a hunter so I don't know but it seems like that would significantly increase the odds that the animal suffers...?

Don't you have to shoot it in just the right spot?

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2012/1/3/5a61f6bd-aa4e-4b21-a9fb-de35c4929961.png

http://cheezburger.com/View/5646421504

puckstr
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:51 PM
Long Pig FTW

Ezzzzy1
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 05:59 PM
Just curious, why would you use a .22? I'm not a hunter so I don't know but it seems like that would significantly increase the odds that the animal suffers...?

Don't you have to shoot it in just the right spot?

Its a perfect gun to learn with. Not too big not too small

Clovis
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 06:02 PM
I agree (for learning guns in general), but for shooting deer?


Its a perfect gun to learn with. Not too big not too small

Wrider
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 06:28 PM
FWIW guys, the .22 Mag and the .22 LR have completely different trajectories, velocities, and energies. To put it into perspective, when cows are ready to be slaughtered, they shoot them once with a .22 Mag and it penetrates the skull without a problem.

As to Blake, awesome! That's a very good shot, neck shots are not easy!

It's also a tradition in my family, and will continue to be if I have any kids.

Radek
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 06:33 PM
well , how about bow,crossbow,spear or other quiet stuff ?

Sleev
Tue Jan 3rd, 2012, 06:50 PM
http://daddydetails.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pbr-can.jpg

Ezzzzy1
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 12:28 AM
I agree (for learning guns in general), but for shooting deer?

Why not... I really think that anyone with a brain can use it the right way to kill something. Says a lot about his connection with his son and his sons ability if you really think about it.

If you cant shoot it with a .22 you shouldnt be shooting. I reckon


http://daddydetails.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pbr-can.jpg

:lol: Right?

Seriously laughing out loud...

Zanatos
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jimbo had no choice but to take that shot with a .22.

The sumbitch was comin' right at us!

http://forum.thesimpson.it/upload/kennydied/ned%20e%20jimbo.jpg

bulldog
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 09:48 AM
I am fully aware of the regs. We were in NE, not CO. The rifle was a .22 Mag, not a regular .22. Pics were removed as it seemed the drama was already starting like normal on the CSC.

Blake is only 8 and is already an excellent shooter. This deer was dead before it hit the ground. He put the bullet in the neck exactly where I told him to. Hunting has been part of my family for generations and will continue to be. Well even in CO a .22 magnum cartridge is legal it states :up:

I am no hunter, but I approve if done correctly. Congrats to your son; I bet he was so excited!

RajunCajun
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 09:49 AM
Here's my contribution to the CSC drama fest!

They're pretty cute until they go all Allahu Akbar on your ass.

http://www.madebywhite.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/baby-deer-1-500.jpg

http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-pictures/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cute-baby-deer-fawn.jpg

http://www.highlandlakesumc.org/images/Baby%20Deer.JPG

Mmmm, looks so tender and delicious!!

salsashark
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Mmmm, looks so tender and delicious!!

Exactly what I was thinking :lol:

http://nolechekmeats.com/images/venison.jpg

http://www.askthemeatman.com/images/beef_jerky_from_askthemeatman_1000wide.JPG

bulldog
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Clovis needs to explain this story on the pics. Did you raise this deer? If so did it seem to have personality? I eat meat to can't be a hypocryte, but I always wondered if deer are more like a dog/cat, but never knew anyone who raised one.

I grew up around chickens and cows and never felt they were smart animals or showed any true personality IMO...guess it makes me feel better on eating them :lol:

Sean
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Blake is only 8 and is already an excellent shooter. This deer was dead before it hit the ground. He put the bullet in the neck exactly where I told him to. Hunting has been part of my family for generations and will continue to be.Congrats to Blake! He's a heck of a kid and isn't far from being a young-man. :up:

sloridr
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Swade CONGRATS to your son on his first dear!!!:up:

grim
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 11:28 AM
Exactly what I was thinking :lol:

http://nolechekmeats.com/images/venison.jpg

http://www.askthemeatman.com/images/beef_jerky_from_askthemeatman_1000wide.JPG

MMMMMMMM JERKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clovis
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 12:51 PM
A few years ago I hit a momma deer with my car and killed her. It turned out that she was pregnant and I could see the little fawn wiggling around inside.

I retrieved my pocket knife and performed an emergancy C-section and got the little guy out. I gave the little guy to my vet.

True story.

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No, I just googled "baby deer pictures" and those are some photos that came up.


Clovis needs to explain this story on the pics. Did you raise this deer? If so did it seem to have personality? I eat meat to can't be a hypocryte, but I always wondered if deer are more like a dog/cat, but never knew anyone who raised one.

I grew up around chickens and cows and never felt they were smart animals or showed any true personality IMO...guess it makes me feel better on eating them :lol:

bulldog
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 03:08 PM
A few years ago I hit a momma deer with my car and killed her. It turned out that she was pregnant and I could see the little fawn wiggling around inside.

I retrieved my pocket knife and performed an emergancy C-section and got the little guy out. I gave the little guy to my vet.

True story.

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No, I just googled "baby deer pictures" and those are some photos that came up. :spit: Man you had me going for a second there! :lol:

Wrider
Wed Jan 4th, 2012, 04:12 PM
Well even in CO a .22 magnum cartridge is legal it states :up:

I am no hunter, but I approve if done correctly. Congrats to your son; I bet he was so excited!


1. CENTERFIRE RIFLES
a. Must be minimum of .24 caliber (6 mm).
b. Must have a minimum 16-inch barrel and be at least 26
inches long.
c. If semiautomatic, they can hold a maximum of six rounds in
the magazine and chamber combined.
d. Must use expanding bullets that weigh minimum 70 grains
for deer, pronghorn and bear, 85 grains for elk and moose,
and have an impact energy (at 100 yards) of 1,000-ft. pounds
as rated by manufacturer.
e. It is illegal to hunt game birds, small-game mammals or
furbearers with a centerfire rifle larger than .23 caliber during
regular rifle deer and elk seasons west of I-25, without an
unfilled deer or elk license for the season. A small-game,
furbearer or unfilled big-game license is required.
Incorrect. Check pg. 6 of the big game brochure (http://wildlife.state.co.us/SiteCollectionDocuments/DOW/RulesRegs/Brochure/BigGame/biggame.pdf)

As far as whether it's a good cartridge for deer? I personally think it is. A .22 LR wouldn't be so much, but I've heard of plenty of deer being taken with it. A .223 or 5.56 NATO would work really well too I'd think.