Seriously Need advice! Workout mentality

[Cat118!]

So I have been struggling with losing weight for quite some time now and I know some people here are quite educated.
I know the workouts I need to do for the most part. And the food I know a lot but could use more education.

Backround:
I have a pituitary tumor that is not life threatening. Its to small and to risky for Dr.'s to remove so as of now its staying. This does cause my hormones in my body to be "out of whack" So losing weight is VERY hard for me. I even had one doctor tell me I'm stuck at this weight and just to stay active (needless to say I did not go back and will not believe that)

I was at one time obsessed with working out. I would do 3-4 hours of martial arts class about 3 to 4 times a week and then hit up the gym right after for another hour. I was eating healthy. (maybe not enough though) I would plateau after 5-10 lbs.
Then no more weight would come off. I was doing about 23-26 hours of workouts a week. ( Like I said I was obsessed)
My workouts would be mixed up through martial arts and alternating workouts at the gym.

I started getting really frustrated that I could not get past 5-10lbs!!
I would take my friends to the gym and train them, put them through my workout regimen and they would die at the end or not even make it half way. They were getting more results than I was!!! Fueling the frustration even more.

My martial arts instructor then came to me in fear I was going to burn myself out, and I needed to back out of the amount of classes that I was taking.
MORE FRUSTRATION! I was loving my routine and now I was being forced to stop some of it. I thought it was a set back in my weight loss goals.

So I joined a Cross fit boot camp to fill that time.... WOW kicked my ass every time!

But I have a history of bad ankles. One had already been reconstructed, and the other one was giving me huge problems. I had to reduced bootcamp from 2x's a week to 1. Was getting worse. My ankle would be so sore after class that it would hurt for a week. By the time it felt better it was time for bootcamp again. At the gym I was staying on no impact machines.

The pain was too much. I went to Dr. and I now have to have reconstructive surgery on that ankle.

I had to be in cast baring NO weight on it for 8 weeks and then 4 weeks in a boot.
The rehab of my ankle was AWFUL!
Not only could I not workout during the healing period. Cause if my foot was no elevated for more than 5 min. it would swell....Swelling so painful. I was bed ridin basically.
Great knocked down AGAIN!
I felt like I could do nothing..... And for the first time I accepted it. ( I know my fault) I stopped trying to workout.
After the boot came off... I couldn't walk on a hike for more than 5 min before it hurt. I would have to turn around after trying to get past it in about 20 min.
I wanted to hit trails... do a 14er. And I couldn't. I got pissed...Like really pissed, then I accepted it

It took nearly a year for my ankle to not have painful days.
During this year I put on the weight. (sigh)

Now I am at a point where I need to own up and get back to where I was before.
But I can't get my mind there or my body.
The fight and the hours upon hours I did of working out got me no where it seems.
The hard work and dedication left me with 5-10 lbs and frustrations and hurdles after hurdles. (I'm carrying that memory with me)

I know I was healthier than most people. Even though I didn't look thin I had endurance and longevity. But I wanted to LOOK the way I felt.
Its devastating working so hard and looking like your not getting any where.

Now here I am. More over weight than I ever have been.
When I push myself into the gym.... I don't get the rush and the energy I got before. I fell the same as I did before making myself go as when I do go. Tired...blah.... lack of motivation.
I can't seem to get my "addiction" back.
Even if I have a great workout.... I fell "meh". So the aftermath of feeling great I got before is no longer my reward. Which makes it even HARDER to make myself go to the gym.

Did my endorphin's stop working.....? ( I mean really? no energy boost?)

I want to get back in shape so bad.... but I mentally cannot get there.
At least if I felt fantastic after a workout I would have a reason to go more. Saying to myself "Cat, I know you don't wanna go, but if you do you will feel GREAT after wards!!!" But I don't feel great after... I still feel blah

I used my surgery as an excuse long enough, not exceptable than nor now.
I know this "Not feeling great" is an excuse. But its a real strong wall that is in my way.

I keep remembering all the hard work I did before and no results.... May sound over board but it is a bit traumatic. To work sooooo hard and fail.

I Really need help knocking down this wall!! knocking this "excuse" out of my head.

I've tried to just keep making myself go and my good feeling will return.... it didn't

I've tried reading books that have got me pumped up and motivated in the past..... nope not working

Please be kind on your reply's
I know I'm putting myself out there..... its because I really need advice.

I know I have to do this 100% myself. But direction and advice would be great!

anybody been there before? How did you break down the wall?
If not experience it, got any ideas for me?

Its like a depression I fell into....A workout depression.


Sorry if tons of typos.

[AOK303]

a work out is 50% mental if your mind's not into it
your body knows, it sounds like you know when your body has had a good work out you just need to find how to get your mind back into it,

are you doing a routine at the gym? i listen to the same song before each workout to get that mind set

i took all summer off and the first 3 weeks back was horrible my body felt it but my mind was not in it till i found a routine that i would get pumped and want to push myself. seems everyone has one lift or exercise that they are in love with, sometimes you just have to overload it till you can pass off that energy and drive to the rest. it's why you see some people only bench or arm curl it what gets them going

Hope this helps

[Cat118!]

Thank you!
I don't have a routine.....I just go and figure it out there.
I should write a routine down. And just stick to it....

[bulldog]

Wow, I am really sorry for your bad luck Cat118. I worked out with you before so I know that you do it right, push yourself, and have excellent stamina. I wish I knew what to say, but seems like it may be a bigger issue than most people here may understand. Have you looked into maybe seeing a doctor that specializes in this stuff? Maybe a sports and fitness doctor or one that has experience with the tumor you have? Maybe get all your body levels checked and go from there to see what may be off. I don't know much about women's fitness but I know a few guys that had a similar issue and it ended up being low testosterone; a few injections per month and they are totally different.

Are you taking mutli-vitamins and all that?

Only other thing I could think of is to get a good personal trainer and see if they could help out. They really do help a lot and find a diet/workout that works for you. Can be a bit expensive, but in long run they are worth it.

It could be that mentally your are just frustrated so it is effecting your workouts. Honestly I think anyone would be frustrated at this point so I don't blame you one bit; hell I get frustrated when I see guys come in and get way bigger than me when I work out harder. I've also come to the realization that I am fighting genetics and results are not fair from person to person.

For me when I lose focus I do use a pre-workout drink like Neurocore or C4. Now I am not saying this is the healthiest because some people will argue the caffeine and stimulants came be harmful, but they really do help me get that extra energy and focus that I need to get my ass in the gym. Even a strong coffee or espresso shot works well.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions concerns. I do not have a personal training certificate or anything like that, but I have a lot of freinds that do that I could shoot questions too.






So I joined a Cross fit boot camp to fill that time.... WOW kicked my ass every time!

But I have a history of bad ankles. One had already been reconstructed, and the other one was giving me huge problems. I had to reduced bootcamp from 2x's a week to 1. Was getting worse. My ankle would be so sore after class that it would hurt for a week. By the time it felt better it was time for bootcamp again. At the gym I was staying on no impact machines.

The pain was too much. I went to Dr. and I now have to have reconstructive surgery on that ankle..



I’ll probably get flamed for this, but oh well what else is new on this site :lol:

When it comes to crossfit I believe that it pushes a person so hard that their form gets compromised bad; which usually ends in injuries. It works (for most people) because anytime you push yourself that hard in such a small time period it burns a lot of calories, but I see a lot of people get hurt doing crossfit (people have even died from it). I’d avoid it and just workout the old fashion way where form is one of the most important things and doing exercises right so you avoid injuries since you already have a past with your ankles.

[Keyser Soze]

http://memecreator.net/creepy-wonka/showimage.php/43843/way-too-long-didn't-read.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

When it comes to crossfit I believe that it pushes a person so hard that their form gets compromised bad; which usually ends in injuries. It works (for most people) because anytime you push yourself that hard in such a small time period it burns a lot of calories, but I see a lot of people get hurt doing crossfit (people have even died from it). I’d avoid it and just workout the old fashion way where form is one of the most important things and doing exercises right so you avoid injuries since you already have a past with your ankles.

I'll reply with another funny picture

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[Keyser Soze]

OK ok ok...kinda grazed over it. Do you have a workout partner? A good partner will hold you to a routine and help you push yourself.

Also....what hormones are out of whack? Have you seen an endocrinologist? Hormone replacement therapy can do wonders.

[AOK303]

I agree with ya bull dog Cross fit people have horrible form and are more prone to injuring themselves and annoying everyone around them unless it at a cross fit center where there is a few around.

and bull dog is right maybe a work out buddy or trainer to help you get back into it. sometimes even if short i get annoyed working out with people its what you need cause you alternate and that drives you to do what they do

Pre work out drinks work for some and make some lazy they make me lazy, I just need music made a play list that even when i go for a quick workout it gets me going and soon ive been there for 2 hour.

[bulldog]

Also....what hormones are out of whack? Have you seen an endocrinologist? Hormone replacement therapy can do wonders. Thanks...that was the word I was looking for; endocrinologist. I think your best bet would go to see one of these specialists! I agree hormone replacement does wonders!!!!


I agree with ya bull dog Cross fit people have horrible form and are more prone to injuring themselves and annoying everyone around them unless it at a cross fit center where there is a few around. Funny you say that because I got into a huge argument with a crossfit guy about a month ago over this. He decides he will leave his keys at one machine, his towel on another, his water bottle at yet another one, while he uses a fourth machine. His water bottle was on the Smith Machine and after waiting about 15 minutes I got on the machine. Well he comes over and asks me if I didn't see his water bottle. I said yeah and I saw you working out on those three other machines too though. That is when I get "this is crossfit man". I tell him he needs to respect everyones workouts and you want to come at 5pm on a weekday and hold 4 machines that is just rude and you can't expect people top not work in. Long story short he got upset about it and I told him to go to a crossfit gym then.

[I`m Batman]

P90X should work fine if you're serious about it.

[Cat118!]

I go to Endo ever since they found it... Depending on my levels see her every six months.
Tried medication only one that ”may” help. But makes me extremely nuseas and can't even stay at work when on it. She took me off.
No workout buddies..... No one willing and if they are they are on opposite side of town.
Px90 I do but some work outs mess up my ankle. I try and sub those moves.
No vitamins
No supplements

[bulldog]

I go to Endo ever since they found it... Depending on my levels see her every six months.
Tried medication only one that ”may” help. But makes me extremely nuseas and can't even stay at work when on it. She took me off.
No workout buddies..... No one willing and if they are they are on opposite side of town.
Px90 I do but some work outs mess up my ankle. I try and sub those moves.
No vitamins
No supplements Have you discussed this with your Endo then? I'd think they would know the most on that. Maybe a second opinion is needed by a different endo doctor because I'd think there is more than one choice of meds nowadays.

Is there a reason for no vitamins? Really nobody should go without a daily vitamin especially if you are training. This could be why you have a lack of energy; deficient in something. I take a mens mutlivitamin, Vitamin D (80% of people are deficient of this), fish oil (helps with a lot), glucostimine (bones and joints), and colustrum (immune system).

I believe in Jack LaLanne who once wrote:
Don't believe the vitamins-are-all-hype hype. LaLanne filled his diet with vitamin supplements—40 to 50 of them, he once told Larry King (http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/17/lkl.00.html)—that spanned the alphabet “from A to Z,” plus various minerals and enzymes. “If you don't take vitamins on a regular basis it's like going to bed with a rattlesnake,” he declared, “it's going to get you.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/01/24/jack-lalanne-fitness-guru-dies-at-96-learn-10-of-his-habits.html

[Keyser Soze]

What hormones are out of whack?

[Cat118!]

Prolactin,cortisal, estrogen, testostrone.
She put me on a 1000 calorie diet this month. Wants to see if we can jump start weight loss.
Was on metaphormin and that's what made me sick.

No reason for not taking vitamins......just so many to pick some and end up with a fist full of vitamins.
Lol I should pick 2 and work on taking those.

[Cat118!]

I do eat flax seed in my fruit smoothie everyday....

[bulldog]

Prolactin,cortisal, estrogen, testostrone.
She put me on a 1000 calorie diet this month. Wants to see if we can jump start weight loss.
Was on metaphormin and that's what made me sick.

No reason for not taking vitamins......just so many to pick some and end up with a fist full of vitamins.
Lol I should pick 2 and work on taking those. I know a lot of woman take these and recommend them; I take their men's ones
GNC Women's Ultra Mega® Active



http://gnc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pGNC1-7365129t300x300.jpg
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4033452

Best way to take these is to stager them throughout the day for best absorbtion. So if the directions say to take three a day try to not take all three at once....although that is still better than not taking any at all. I'd also look into Fish Oil and Vitaman D; both cheap! I get mine in bulk at Costco

P.S. Doctor gives you testosterone!!!! Any way you can give me some....perdy please :lol:
EDIT: Oh wait maybe those are hormones out of wack and you didn't mean that is what you get. If not testosterone please with a side of HGH :D

[Keyser Soze]

Test is easy to get Nate. Reeally easy. Most insurance companies will cover it too. HRT is getting popular. Lotta benefits for both men and women. I'd look into it Cat.

[Cat118!]

Never even heard of it, what is it??
Both testosterone and estrogen are low. Put me on birth control for a bit but no difference.
They also have to watch what they put me on cause of my alopecia too.... LOL I'm all sorts defective.

[FZRguy]

So you really want to be fit, lose lots of body fat, not be bored out of your gord while working out, not hurt your ankle in the process? Cycling will accomplish these goals. You live in Golden. Did you know that you are surrounded by bicycle paths? You can ride a bike for 60 miles or more, all on bike paths. It’s fun and will keep your body and brain engaged at a high level for hours on end. It’s low impact and great exercise. First, you need a bike….a real bike, not a Walmart bike. If you’re the least bit interested, happy to help you out. I ride the paths around Golden, and Lookout Mtn at least a couple times per week.

[bulldog]

Never even heard of it, what is it??
Both testosterone and estrogen are low. Put me on birth control for a bit but no difference.
They also have to watch what they put me on cause of my alopecia too.... LOL I'm all sorts defective. It is the Fountain of Youth drug!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone

I agree with Rob and it is something you should look into!!!!


So you really want to be fit, lose lots of body fat, not be bored out of your gord while working out, not hurt your ankle in the process? Cycling will accomplish these goals. You live in Golden. Did you know that you are surrounded by bicycle paths? You can ride a bike for 60 miles or more, all on bike paths. It’s fun and will keep your body and brain engaged at a high level for hours on end. It’s low impact and great exercise. First, you need a bike….a real bike, not a Walmart bike. If you’re the least bit interested, happy to help you out. I ride the paths around Golden, and Lookout Mtn at least a couple times per week. John I don't think her issue is with exercise, but more with something off because of this tumor and her not able to drop the weight like most people. I've done cardio with Cat and even after a fast paced 20 minutes session she was not tired or showing signs that she was stuggling...at all! So I believe her when she says she works out this much, so has to be another issue because of her hormones with the tumor.

[laspariahs]

It is the Fountain of Youth drug!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone

I agree with Rob and it is something you should look into!!!!

Umm F that. In the sport world it's called doping.

[bulldog]

Umm F that. In the sport world it's called doping. Not if it is legally prescribed by a doctor because of a medical reason! You did read the entire thread right? Rob and I are not telling someone to use this to gain a edge, but to correct a hormone inbalance...

Also you do know there are many pro athletes on TRT right (testosterone therapy treatment). And they are exempt from the "doping" rules. Just because people see the bad things on stuff doesn't mean they don't have medical benefits too.

[Keyser Soze]

Umm F that. In the sport world it's called doping.

:lol: Dude, do some research.

[Keyser Soze]

Never even heard of it, what is it??
Both testosterone and estrogen are low. Put me on birth control for a bit but no difference.
They also have to watch what they put me on cause of my alopecia too.... LOL I'm all sorts defective.


HRT is Hormone Replacement Therapy. You can supplement Test and Estrogen to get you to normal levels. Doctor prescribed and monitored. Lotta benefits.

[bulldog]

HRT is Hormone Replacement Therapy. You can supplement Test and Estrogen to get you to normal levels. Doctor prescribed and monitored. Lotta benefits. +1

Even the link I posted seems to have something similar to issues you are having

Problems caused when the body produces too little GH
The effects of growth hormone deficiency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_deficiency) vary depending on the age at which they occur. In children, growth failure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_failure) and short stature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_stature) are the major manifestations of GH deficiency, with common causes including genetic conditions and congenital malformations. It can also cause delayed sexual maturity. In adults, deficiency is rare,[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone#cite_note-Molitch_et_al._2006-30) with the most common cause a pituitary adenoma, and others including a continuation of a childhood problem, other structural lesions or trauma, and very rarely idiopathic GHD.
Adults with GHD "tend to have a relative increase in fat mass and a relative decrease in muscle mass and, in many instances, decreased energy and quality of life".[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone#cite_note-Molitch_et_al._2006-30)
Diagnosis of GH deficiency involves a multiple-step diagnostic process, usually culminating in GH stimulation tests to see if the patient's pituitary gland will release a pulse of GH when provoked by various stimuli.

[laspariahs]

:lol: Dude, do some research.

You do some research, HGH is a banned substance.

Here I'll even help you:

http://www.usada.org/prohibited-list/

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/default.aspx

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/search/IngredientStatus.aspx?ingid=3584&countryid=3&sportid=32&exact=1&searchid=828134&userid=1&show=All&search=growth%20hormone&newSearch=false

[Cat118!]

Thanks Nate!! Its been a struggle.
Fzr I mountain bike a bit.....but its cold now and not a option at the moment...lol

[Keyser Soze]

You do some research, HGH is a banned substance.

Here I'll even help you:

http://www.usada.org/prohibited-list/

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/default.aspx

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/search/IngredientStatus.aspx?ingid=3584&countryid=3&sportid=32&exact=1&searchid=828134&userid=1&show=All&search=growth%20hormone&newSearch=false

Doctors can prescribe HGH.

Also, if you read my post, I said HRT. Wide range hormone therapy's out there, not just HGH. To make a blanket statement and call it doping, is retarded.

[bulldog]

You do some research, HGH is a banned substance.

Here I'll even help you:

http://www.usada.org/prohibited-list/

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/default.aspx

http://www.globaldro.org/us-en/search/IngredientStatus.aspx?ingid=3584&countryid=3&sportid=32&exact=1&searchid=828134&userid=1&show=All&search=growth%20hormone&newSearch=false What does that prove? Valium, Hydrocodene, oxycodone, oxycontin, ets are all banned too but prescribed all the time for medical uses.

[laspariahs]

Doctors can prescribe HGH.

Also, if you read my post, I said HRT. Wide range hormone therapy's out there, not just HGH. To make a blanket statement and call it doping, is retarded.

I said it was doping in sport. It is, you will never get a in competition TUE for HGH, never gonna happen, ever.

You probably don't know what a TUE is so I'll tell you, it's a therapeutic use exemption, meaning you can take it, in or out of competition depending on the TUE.

I made no mention of if doctors could prescribe people that don't compete in elite sport the drug now did I? Nope, I just mentioned it was doping, and it is. I'll never take that shit, unless a doctor that I knew and trusted told me I HAD to have it. HGH and these doping drugs are serious business. Why do you think Armstrong got cancer the first time? Bad luck?

[laspariahs]

What does that prove? Valium, Hydrocodene, oxycodone, oxycontin, ets are all banned too but prescribed all the time for medical uses.

So is aspirin, you missed that one.

[bulldog]

I said it was doping in sport. It is, you will never get a in competition TUE for HGH, never gonna happen, ever.

You probably don't know what a TUE is so I'll tell you, it's a therapeutic use exemption, meaning you can take it, in or out of competition depending on the TUE.

I made no mention of if doctors could prescribe people that don't compete in elite sport the drug now did I? Nope, I just mentioned it was doping, and it is. I'll never take that shit, unless a doctor that I knew and trusted told me I HAD to have it. HGH and these doping drugs are serious business. Why do you think Armstrong got cancer the first time? Bad luck? So you ARE saying you didn't even read this entire thread then! :lol: Nobody here talked about it's use for sports; yes of course it is illegal for that. We were both trying to help Cat118 who asked for some opinions on her condition she has from a tumor. Both said to seek a Doctor advice and not some shady internet site to just test out

And yes HGH is legal if prescribed http://www.hghmeds.org/is-hgh-legal/

You do know TUE's are given for testosterone right? Years back everyone said they never would be granted either...yet here we are!


Always some drama on a thead :lol: Who cares about helping out the person who made the thread right when we can just waste time arguing over something that was not mentioned........

[laspariahs]

So you ARE saying you didn't even read this entire thread then! :lol: Nobody here talked about it's use for sports; yes of course it is illegal for that. We were both trying to help Cat118 who asked for some opinions on her condition she has from a tumor. Both said to seek a Doctor advice and not some shady internet site to just test out

And yes HGH is legal if prescribed http://www.hghmeds.org/is-hgh-legal/

You do know TUE's are given for testosterone right? Years back everyone said they never would be granted either...yet here we are!

I've been given TUE's you? Get a clue man. I didn't read the entire thread, I just saw HGH being thrown around like it was aspirin, and it's not. It's a serious drug. You should get some EPO and get on the full regimen.

And I know it's legal, and it's the new rage for old people that can't admit they are old. There are HRT places all over the place.

[bulldog]

I've been given TUE's you? Get a clue man. I didn't read the entire thread, I just saw HGH being thrown around like it was aspirin, and it's not. It's a serious drug. You should get some EPO and get on the full regimen.

And I know it's legal, and it's the new rage for old people that can't admit they are old. There are HRT places all over the place. Thanks for at least admitting you got involved without reading the entire thread. May help next time to get the full picture at least :dunno:

"Backround:
I have a pituitary tumor that is not life threatening. Its to small and to risky for Dr.'s to remove so as of now its staying. This does cause my hormones in my body to be "out of whack" So losing weight is VERY hard for me. I even had one doctor tell me I'm stuck at this weight and just to stay active"

If you have experience with this then try helping instead. Probably wasn't easy for Catt to ask us for help and pretty sure she understand this is a sportbike forum and none of us are doctors. Cat is a very nice person!!!! Could Rob and I be wrong...of course,but seems like she is frustrated and every avenue should be looked into at this point

[Keyser Soze]

Why do you think Armstrong got cancer the first time? Bad luck?

Do you have a source on this? Or are you making an assumption?

[laspariahs]

Do you have a source on this? Or are you making an assumption?

I'm making a educated guess.

[laspariahs]

Thanks for at least admitting you got involved without reading the entire thread. May help next time to get the full picture at least :dunno:

"Backround:
I have a pituitary tumor that is not life threatening. Its to small and to risky for Dr.'s to remove so as of now its staying. This does cause my hormones in my body to be "out of whack" So losing weight is VERY hard for me. I even had one doctor tell me I'm stuck at this weight and just to stay active"

If you have experience with this then try helping instead. Probably wasn't easy for Catt to ask us for help and pretty sure she understand this is a sportbike forum and none of us are doctors. Cat is a very nice person!!!! Could Rob and I be wrong...of course,but seems like she is frustrated and every avenue should be looked into at this point

Like I said I would take it if a very trusted doctor told me I HAD to have it. Otherwise F that noise.

[Keyser Soze]

And I know it's legal, and it's the new rage for old people that can't admit they are old. There are HRT places all over the place.

Another assumption. Plenty of young people out there with low T levels for plenty of different reasons. With your ranting, I'd say you need to get your estrogen levels checked :lol:

No one is telling her to go out to some place and get pumped full of shit she knows nothing about. If her levels are off, it will cause weight issues. It will also cause issues with her mood and energy levels. Going to a specialist, getting checked and educated on the stuff is worth it in my opinion.

[bulldog]

Tom Green got Testicular Cancer. Wonder if he was "doping" too :lol:

http://www.callus.com/separatedatbirth/tomgreen.jpg


Going to a specialist, getting checked and educated on the stuff is worth it in my opinion. Wait, are you saying a doctor won't just give it because two guys on a sportbike website said so...no way!!!!! :lol: :eyebrows:

[Cat118!]

Thanks again Nate!
I guess my main goal is getting over the mental hump at the moment. Workout out with or without results is still better than no working out at all.
How did some of you brake down whatever mental walls you had?
Get over something that you busted your ass off and failed. And doing it all over again....

I like natural choices if I can..... with all the stuff I have going on in my body I choose Vitamins and supplements as far as treatments.

[Keyser Soze]

Listen to Eye Of The Tiger on repeat...get pumped :lol:

[bulldog]

Thanks again Nate!
I guess my main goal is getting over the mental hump at the moment. Workout out with or without results is still better than no working out at all.
How did some of you brake down whatever mental walls you had?
Get over something that you busted your ass off and failed. And doing it all over again....

I like natural choices if I can..... with all the stuff I have going on in my body I choose Vitamins and supplements as far as treatments.
I still go through this daily and there are times I tell myself I should just give it up because I am never going to be one of those huge guys I see at my gym; mainly because of my genetics and never using illegal “doping” drugs. I started really skinny so the progress I made is good, but not compared to others; especially for all the time I have put into it. I am big on what is called “cognitive therapy” which is basically trying to think positive because if not I just think of the negative and get all depressed. Kind of like what you said though, At least trying is better than giving up. And don’t think you failed either. Like I said before you were in good enough shape to do a workout that I have seen many others fail at. I’ve had at least five other people join me in the gym that told me they could do it and failed or struggled really hard. I didn’t see that in you so even though it sucks and you have the extra weight you don’t want, don’t consider it a fail because 95% of the population could not do a martial arts class for a few hours then go workout after like you can!

I understand you want natural, we were just suggesting it may at least be worth it to get the tests done to see if it could be a help. Even though it does have a bad name technically it is natural and our body produces it; just some have lower levels than others. Same as with estrogen and testosterone…

[Cat118!]

thank you Nate, you saying that about me really helps motivate me. Its nice that someone saw what I was capable of, instead it being just my own distant memory, I would like to be there again. It means alot to me. Thank you :angel:

[Cat118!]

I'm printing out what you wrote and putting it on my fridge.... made me tear up...
I want to be there again.
I NEED to get my mind in that place again.

[bulldog]

I'm printing out what you wrote and putting it on my fridge.... made me tear up...
I want to be there again.
I NEED to get my mind in that place again. Awww..thanks Catt. You don't know, but it cheers me up too. So tired of bad things happening to good people in this world.........

[Cat118!]

*hugs*
Just hearing nothing but people telling me what I need to do... nagging at me... and of course being my own critique I tell myself awful things about me.
Hearing positive made me realize that I am not hearing enough from others or myself. (which makes me hurt too)

I need to talk to myself like my best friend and not my worst enemy

[FZRguy]

I've done cardio with Cat and even after a fast paced 20 minutes session she was not tired or showing signs that she was stuggling...at all!

20 minutes? :lol: I'm talking four hours to burn fat.

[FZRguy]

Cat, chat with sprtbkbabe re cycling. She's done the MS150 with us a couple times. Maybe for you, maybe not. Reyven is a Certified Athletic Trainer. I'm sure she can offer you some advice. Somewhere, buried in the fitness thread, are posts re the benefits of a personal trainer. Sounds like you could make very good use of someone to motivate and guide you to your fitness goals.

[bulldog]

I've done cardio with Cat and even after a fast paced 20 minutes session she was not tired or showing signs that she was stuggling...at all!

20 minutes? :lol: I'm talking four hours to burn fat.
Sheesh this again John. We also did at least one hour of weight lifting before the cardio (not to mention she said in her first post "23-26 hours a week of working out"). Do we really have to go over again how the more muscle you have the more fat you burn; there are multiple ways to burn fat other than spending 4 hours of cardio. As it is weight lifting burns calories at least 2 hours after you stop lifting and cardiio burns none when you stop. Give the girl a break man and realize what works for you may not work as well for others. This is like saying to come with me to the gym and I'll laugh when you can't curl a 160lb barbell; yet it doesn't mean you are not in good shape....

Not saying to not give bicycling a chance, it is a great cardio workout and fun.

I do agree a personal trainer will help. Well a good one; I see way too many that can preach fitness, but can't actually do it. Not meaning Reyven isn't one as I never knew she was a trainer and don't know her. Honestly a personal trainer is what really changed me and made me see how much this is a science rather than just working out. I highly recommend one too!

Just messing with you buddy, but you know you and I have never really agreed on fitness and have way different goals.