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WolFeYeZ
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 07:09 PM
So I just got an email from my landlord mentioning that I cannon have lit candles in my apartment and that I cant have my couple sets of race tires in my closet. I have 9 months left in the lease still and I am a big fan of both my tires and candles (I got out of the dorms so I could finally have candles). Nothing is mentioned in my lease or apartment rules about these items except for possibly this:

"18. Dangerous Materials. Tenant shall not keep or have on the Premises any article or thing of a dangerous, inflammable, or explosive character that might increase the danger of fire on the Premises, or that might be considered hazardous by a responsible insurance company, unless the prior written consent of Owners is obtained and proof of adequate insurance protection is provided by Tenant to Owners."

and smoking is not allowed per the complex rules and the lease. Should I politely tell them to pound sand or can they just make rules like that?

I am also very responsible with my candles, burning on proper surfaces, staying in the same room and I even have a fire extinguisher very close on hand.

Jmetz
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 07:13 PM
They might have you on the candles though its a stretch, but the tires are fine.

tecknojoe
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 07:23 PM
^ that.

also, why was he in your apartment to see those things? I've never had someone actually do their bi-annual apartment inspection. Sucks

What justification did he give on the tires? makes no sense

sloridr
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 07:55 PM
You could threaten his family... Just sayin...

madvlad
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 07:58 PM
I'd gladly tell him to go run into a knife, fuck em!

WolFeYeZ
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:05 PM
^ that.

also, why was he in your apartment to see those things? I've never had someone actually do their bi-annual apartment inspection. Sucks

What justification did he give on the tires? makes no sense

They went through to change out the fire detectors while I was in Copper. Until now they have been very friendly and have known about my 5-10 candles since day one. Candles make studying until 3am much more pleasant and serene.


You could threaten his family... Just sayin...

Who da fuck are you? I always seem to end up with an asinine comment from you on my threads.

WolFeYeZ
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:09 PM
What justification did he give on the tires? makes no sense

They said fire hazard...? Google comes up with nothing.

Grim2.0
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:10 PM
Who da fuck are you? I always seem to end up with an asinine comment from you on my threads.


I heard he was a fag.

TFOGGuys
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:17 PM
They said fire hazard...? Google comes up with nothing.

The blankets on your bed are a bigger fire hazard than those tires.

Tell 'em to get fucked...

tecknojoe
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:17 PM
:lol: fire hazard. fuck that one

Keep the candles, just make sure to note when they say they are changing out the air filters and put them away

Definitely keep a friendly / understanding attitude. It gets shitty fast when you piss off the landlord


oh and put the candles away just for shiggles when you know you're goin out of town for more than 2 days. Usually they are required to notify at a minimum of 24 hours before entry

TinkerinWstuff
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 08:42 PM
you gotta do one hell of a burnout in your closet for those tires to spontaneously combust.

madvlad
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 09:04 PM
He is just jelly cause he can't get a fresh wiff of those awesome take offs that scent your place instead of his shit hole.

rfranks303
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 09:28 PM
Private owned condo or apartment complex? If there is not a detector in your closet why were they in it. When will they be reinspecting? I work for a large company and most of the time I warn tenants about small violations like that, I "forget" to reinspect. Then again when I lived onsite I parked my bike in the dinning room. If you need to store the tires you can use my garage but your on your own with tje candles

#1Townie
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 09:48 PM
You could threaten his family... Just sayin...


+1. Go all mob boss on their ass.

Last apartment i got there was a truck tire in the storage room associated with the unit. That was a little weird.

birchyboy
Tue Jan 8th, 2013, 10:00 PM
you gotta do one hell of a burnout in your closet for those tires to spontaneously combust.

:bow:

FZjake719
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 09:12 AM
The candles thing, is one of those "nit-picky" things some landlords/keepers will do to stir ish up, I'd call the front office and verify if I were you. It'd also be a good idea to get a set of those glass things that go around the candles, or perhaps something inset into a canister(unless thats the type you have.....which are nearly impossible to catch items on fire, unless of course you're physically putting them UNDER flammable materials/etc).

As far as the tires go, that's nuts. As previously said, there is NO reason for those to be considerred a fire hazard, unless they're blocking access to a fire suppression device, or warning/detection unit. As previously mentioned, there are TONS of things in the typical person's home that are WAY more flammable than a set of motorcycle tires....

Now, it could have simply been a lazy inspector, and the tires may actually fall under a seperate clause in your lease agreement regarding the storage of auto pieces/parts. A lot of times landlords/complexs' dont want car/vehicle parts stored in their areas(unless a garage is paid for) because they tend to be extremely dirty/greasy and can stain their units allllll up. Might be something to look into?

Good luck man, have a good one!

birchyboy
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 09:19 AM
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the difficulty in putting a tire fire out. Tires won't catch fire easily, but once they do they can be particularly hard to extinguish.

Ghosty
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 10:10 AM
"18. Dangerous Materials. Tenant shall not keep or have on the Premises any article or thing of a dangerous, inflammable, or explosive character that might increase the danger of fire on the Premises, or that might be considered hazardous by a responsible insurance company, unless the prior written consent of Owners is obtained and proof of adequate insurance protection is provided by Tenant to Owners."
Sounds like you're S.O.L., without prior written authorization. Tires can indeed be considered a fire (fuel) hazzard, not they can spontaneously combust, lol. And candles are obvious because the same reason as the dorms, morons leave their apartment with them burning by mistake and burn the place down. Sucks to have to pay for other peoples historical idiocy.

Not agreeing with the rules, but the law's probably on his side, just sayin'. Good luck, let us know what happens.

Mother Goose
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 10:54 AM
I heard he was a fag.
Was? :lol:


I think they have you on the candles, but the tires don't make any sense.

TurboGizzmo
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 11:02 AM
tires make sense to me because when they burn they are very hard to put out but I would think there is a long list of items that are similar...

bulldog
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 11:36 AM
tires make sense to me because when they burn they are very hard to put out but I would think there is a long list of items that are similar...

Yeah think the "tire" issue is based on how hard they are to put out and that they release a lot of toxic chemicals when burnt:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_fire
They are noted for being difficult to extinguish. Such fires produce a lot of smoke, which often carries toxic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic) chemicals from the breakdown of rubber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber) compounds while burning. A single tire contains about the equivalent of 7.5 liters (two U.S. gallons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._gallon)) of oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil). Extinguishing tire fires is difficult. The fire releases a dark, thick smoke that contains carbon monoxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide), sulfur dioxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_dioxide), and products of butadiene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butadiene) and styrene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrene). A specific danger is posed by dripping hot fluids (which may cause burns) and valves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrader_valve) shooting from the fire under pressure.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_fire#cite_note-pozary-1) Burning tires are heated and as they have a low thermal conductivity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity), they are difficult to cool down. Moreover, they frequently burn inside even if they are extinguished from outside, and easily reignite when hot


So sucks, but I bet they do have a case. Best reason to buy a house!!!!!

TinkerinWstuff
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 12:56 PM
Email response should say - if I remove the tires, I won't have anything to help hide my meth making materials in the closet.

Ezzzzy1
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 01:01 PM
Email response should say - if I remove the tires, I won't have anything to help hide my meth making materials in the closet.

Or... "they are not tires, those are my cock rings" :lol:

Sully
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 03:18 PM
Or... "they are not tires, those are my cock rings" :lol:

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked: lol

rforsythe
Wed Jan 9th, 2013, 03:45 PM
tires make sense to me because when they burn they are very hard to put out but I would think there is a long list of items that are similar...

Yes, not the least of which being the APARTMENT BUILDING they're inside of.

mxer
Sun Jan 20th, 2013, 10:00 AM
Their place, their rules. If you don't like it, buy your own place.