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Ghosty
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:08 AM
:yes: it's crazy how those H7 projectors just light up the road at night so much better to the point they'll make the high beams pointless. I had a set of 6k on mine and best $30 I ever spent :lol:
I noticed you had 6k, MotherGoose had 5k. What color-temp do you all prefer out there? Right now I just run highbeams in daytime, but want to get HID's for my '08 R1. Also want to look at Halo's too.

Is it any different than cars? I don't want anything too blue/purple, looks like a ricer. A happy medium between bright white and lightish blue would be perfect.

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:18 AM
Halo's are overplayed imo but your choice there, as you know the lower the temp the more the light output and such. I'd stay around 4300-5k for the most lighting output and still having that sweet HID look. I did 6k cause I got them for a sweet deal or else I would've done 4300k. I've had 8k and 10k on previous cars and now those are too blue for my liking nowdays

Ezzzzy1
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:18 AM
You have to run the slim ballasts on bikes because the larger ones wont really fit anywhere. Also the 35 watt kits are recommended for bikes as the 55 watt kits have been known to melt the headlight assembly because of how much more heat is generated (the 35w kits last longer too).

I prefer the 6k kits and run the 3ks in my fog lights on the Acura. The 3ks are cool, they look like they are glowing almost.

Color is just a personal thing but I think most agree that the super blue and purples are just like mohawking your helmet.

Mother Goose
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:23 AM
My 5k (with the 35w) was a little too blue for my taste. I picked up the DDM Slim ballasts. Easy to install on the R1. I didn't get them for the high beams because I rarely used them. Plus, if you are going to flash someone, you have to wait for them to warm up, so it's useless unless you run the high beams all the time. But with HIDs in the highs, then you'd just be an asshole. :lol:

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

longrider
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:30 AM
I prefer the 6k myself, plus another vote for DDM Tuning as a supplier.

Ph03niX
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:31 AM
3k is yellow, 4300 is the brightest white, 6k is starting to get a hint of blue, 8k it a nice blue, 10k is a deep blue.

When i get mine im thinking 5k or 6k. I think the more blue, the more chance a cop will pull me over lol. So probably 5k for me.

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:35 AM
3k is yellow, 4300 is the brightest white, 6k is starting to get a hint of blue, 8k it a nice blue, 10k is a deep blue.

When i get mine im thinking 5k or 6k. I think the more blue, the more chance a cop will pull me over lol. So probably 5k for me.

This isn't california bro plus the law allows even body neons or aka underglow for bikes to stay as visible as you possibly can, as far as cars go that's when they get kind of sketch but they're pretty cool for the most part.

Grim2.0
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:38 AM
3k is yellow, 4300 is the brightest white, 6k is starting to get a hint of blue, 8k it a nice blue, 10k is a deep blue.

When i get mine im thinking 5k or 6k. I think the more blue, the more chance a cop will pull me over lol. So probably 5k for me.

I think you have a higher chance of getting pulled over for riding without your endorsement...:banghead:

Ph03niX
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 11:47 AM
I think you have a higher chance of getting a ticket for riding without your endorsement...:banghead:
Fixed lol. Thats in the future when i do have my license. I take the course next weekend :P so ill get it soon.

Dont give me s*** for loving to ride :p

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 12:31 PM
Fixed lol. Thats in the future when i do have my license. I take the course next weekend :P so ill get it soon.

Dont give me s*** for loving to ride :p

We all love to ride dude but gotta do things right. The class is not only a quick and easy way to get your endorsement but just a life saving decision. Your bike can get impounded if you get caught riding without a license, court etc

Fumet5uNo
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 12:50 PM
Open chamber = hid. Projector = led bulb

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 01:34 PM
Open chamber = hid. Projector = led bulb

Even a regular headlamp style with HID has a vast difference on output in comparison to halogen bulbs. The projector just directs the light pattern/cut off a ton better for less glare and optimum lighting as well

Ghosty
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:37 PM
Nice, great info, thanks. Without looking in person, I'd probably want 6k or so. I will need to hit up some of you in real life and check out 5k vs. 6k vs. 8k. From near and far.

What are the best deals you're finding? eBay ok, or they usually cheap Chinese shit that will go bad within a couple years? Anyone local I can support?

What about Halo's? I know they're played, but I still like 'em, heh. Probably wouldn't do both at the same time though.

Mother Goose
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:42 PM
You won't find a better deal than DDM. Plus they have an awesome warranty. I have a couple pictures of the R1 with the HIDs on, I'll have to look around for them though.

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:44 PM
Never bought a DDM kit but have heard great things about those guys though

Mother Goose
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:45 PM
Stock.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/28549_427970750927_5771175_n.jpg

5k 35W DDM Slim Ballast HID kit
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/28549_427970760927_4458915_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/47467_469741925927_893115_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/423440_10150728437785928_1788076033_n.jpg

Chaos
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:56 PM
I love mine. They look more blue in this pic than they are. Light Up the road so good at night. They were already on the bike when I got it. I can pull one and find out what's in there, you've seen them in person. http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/305028_4120657786469_1333164629_n.jpg

Fumet5uNo
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 02:57 PM
Even a regular headlamp style with HID has a vast difference on output in comparison to halogen bulbs. The projector just directs the light pattern/cut off a ton better for less glare and optimum lighting as well

Rewording side by side I found on my reg. head light housing hid came out awesome , now my projector house LED bulb came out better

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 03:06 PM
I haven't seen LED lighting yet bro so can't judge there but if the Panigales have them they gotta be good. Did you have pics?

Ph03niX
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 05:53 PM
We all love to ride dude but gotta do things right. The class is not only a quick and easy way to get your endorsement but just a life saving decision. Your bike can get impounded if you get caught riding without a license, court etc
Hmm.. I didnt know it was that bad of a penalty. Half to time i do ride with another rider so its ok. But yeah my bike is getting new tires so ill keep it off the road until i get my license. Thanks for the info.

Thats surprising how blue those 5k are! I know on most cars 6k barely barely has a hint of blue, let alone 5k.

longrider
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 06:32 PM
By the nature of the way an LED light works I dont see it working in anything but a projector. LED is directional and a non-projector lamp creates the beam off the reflector in back. Some headlights even have a blocking plate in front of the bulb.

I have 6k in my VFR and I ride to work any non-snow day if you want to see it in person.

Dannymack
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 06:35 PM
I'd personally recommend 5k. With the projectors on your bike the light is quite directed so no worries about blinding too many people. I would also recommend a relay harness to run the ballast, just to keep it isolated.

Thought I'd throw these pics up since I actually started working on it today. It's for a Suzuki M50 my friend owns.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Mrmegnum/IMAG0129_zps8a5adae8.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Mrmegnum/IMAG0133_zps406ca768.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Mrmegnum/IMAG0131_zpsca5a4f42.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/Mrmegnum/IMAG0132_zps79fc105c.jpg

DDM is honestly good for most people. If you decide to spend a little more I am a wholesaler for Morimoto for some of my other projects if you want any of their products.

madvlad
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 07:05 PM
Hmm.. I didnt know it was that bad of a penalty. Half to time i do ride with another rider so its ok. But yeah my bike is getting new tires so ill keep it off the road until i get my license. Thanks for the info.

Thats surprising how blue those 5k are! I know on most cars 6k barely barely has a hint of blue, let alone 5k.

Projectors tend to kick the blue up a tad bit plus well when you take a picture of the lighting for some odd reason the cameras also tend to blue it up more than it should. I will say the 6k's I had were pretty blue though, I put a set on my buddy's 675 daytona and it looks pretty good though.

Ghosty
Thu Feb 7th, 2013, 07:24 PM
Wow, yeah even the 5k look as blue as I wanna go. Thanks DannyMack and everyone, for the pics and info! I'll check out DDM, Morimoto, etc. when I'm ready to buy.

Mike, let me know if you pull one of your bulbs, to see what temp they are. I like yours.

madvlad
Wed Feb 13th, 2013, 03:05 PM
Hey grim try this place out for the HID kit, my buddy just bought a few products for his Tiburon and they look really nice and quality.

http://www.diodedynamics.com/store/index.php/led-bulbs/motorcycle.html

Grim2.0
Wed Feb 13th, 2013, 03:21 PM
Hey grim try this place out for the HID kit, my buddy just bought a few products for his Tiburon and they look really nice and quality.

http://www.diodedynamics.com/store/index.php/led-bulbs/motorcycle.html

Added to my list of places i will be buying stuff for the ninja thanks man!

madvlad
Wed Feb 13th, 2013, 03:28 PM
:up: word!

Narsisco Lopez
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 02:11 PM
DDMs, 5K-6K... have had 'em on my past 3 bikes and love 'em.

TransNone13
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:04 PM
By the nature of the way an LED light works I dont see it working in anything but a projector. LED is directional and a non-projector lamp creates the beam off the reflector in back. Some headlights even have a blocking plate in front of the bulb.

I have 6k in my VFR and I ride to work any non-snow day if you want to see it in person.

The main reason I got the S was because the LED lighting is bright, and very white. I also think incandescent technology is pretty antiquated. Best visibility I've ever had or seen on a bike, and there is no projector just a reflector.


I haven't seen LED lighting yet bro so can't judge there but if the Panigales have them they gotta be good. Did you have pics?

I can post pictures up so you can see if you're interested. I've noticed between the Termis and the LED lights people notice me and get out of my way the fastest out of the bikes I've owned. My favorite little feature? When I scoot along on post in the 15MPH zones, my exhaust sets off car alarms parked on the side of the road. So bassy :D.

Grim2.0
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:14 PM
Thinking about purchasing the HID's for the ninja this weekend.

madvlad
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:18 PM
I can post pictures up so you can see if you're interested. I've noticed between the Termis and the LED lights people notice me and get out of my way the fastest out of the bikes I've owned. My favorite little feature? When I scoot along on post in the 15MPH zones, my exhaust sets off car alarms parked on the side of the road. So bassy :D.

Yea dude definitely post up, always been curious as of how the lighting on the Panis is. The sound of them is just insanely awesome, only reason I'd own a Duc is that plus looks lol


Thinking about purchasing the HID's for the ninja this weekend.

do eeeet! You'll never go back son!

longrider
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:22 PM
The main reason I got the S was because the LED lighting is bright, and very white. I also think incandescent technology is pretty antiquated. Best visibility I've ever had or seen on a bike, and there is no projector just a reflector.



Just to clarify I was referring to retrofitting. When built for LED they are great, and of course I have seen a Pani in action and I like it!

TransNone13
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:33 PM
Yea dude definitely post up, always been curious as of how the lighting on the Panis is. The sound of them is just insanely awesome, only reason I'd own a Duc is that plus looks lol



do eeeet! You'll never go back son!

Park, Low, High

Can't get a good frontal shot without flaring.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kwYIvUNEFKU/UR1zgijXuQI/AAAAAAAAD9c/8FDYFeaDsec/s640/20130214_162836.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xLpco0qyY4g/UR1zv0PNz_I/AAAAAAAAD9k/O-KpytEREp0/s640/20130214_162705.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5CHI779uHtY/UR1z6AZ2dBI/AAAAAAAAD9s/NavYXcAiwDk/s640/20130214_162725.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9nEq3D3xPsQ/UR10G0By6gI/AAAAAAAAD90/A90yv7yEv08/s640/20130214_162811.jpg

Grant H.
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:34 PM
I have the 5K from DDM in my k5 1k.

Best upgrade to that bike yet. Lots of light, a tinge of blue but still a white light.

If I decide to change anything it will be to retrofit a projector into the normal low beams spot. Hasn't been necessary yet, but I do like the cut off of projectors.

Grant H.
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:35 PM
Park, Low, High

Can't get a good frontal shot without flaring.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kwYIvUNEFKU/UR1zgijXuQI/AAAAAAAAD9c/8FDYFeaDsec/s640/20130214_162836.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xLpco0qyY4g/UR1zv0PNz_I/AAAAAAAAD9k/O-KpytEREp0/s640/20130214_162705.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5CHI779uHtY/UR1z6AZ2dBI/AAAAAAAAD9s/NavYXcAiwDk/s640/20130214_162725.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9nEq3D3xPsQ/UR10G0By6gI/AAAAAAAAD90/A90yv7yEv08/s640/20130214_162811.jpg

Or perhaps LEDs...

Dang it. More research to do.

madvlad
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 04:47 PM
Wow those are insane bright, any pics as far as road lighting?

TransNone13
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 05:22 PM
Wow those are insane bright, any pics as far as road lighting?

I'll get some road night shots.

Grim2.0
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 06:41 PM
I'll get some road night shots.

Watch out for random flying snowballs.

TransNone13
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 06:42 PM
Dick move....

madvlad
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 07:53 PM
:lol: either way you get the last laugh cause you got two of the most wanted bikes anyways and no snow where you at so no worries there

Grim2.0
Thu Feb 14th, 2013, 08:23 PM
Dick move....

:spit: had to take it you haven't been posting shit for sale so.....

Aaron
Fri Feb 15th, 2013, 01:30 AM
I'm sure you looked my thread just below this one, I'm just starting an HID retrofit on my S1000RR. Using 35w 4300k and halos, dual frontal Bi-xenon projectors.

Personally, I like 4300 the best. All of the cars out there that come with HID projectors, 99% of them come from the factory with 4300k bulbs, and they are obviously not halogens by the slight blue you see. For me, this is plenty, any higher diminishes lighting quality and looks ricey. I won't use anything but the 4300s. I do like the look of 3k in the fogs though.

LED lights are obviously better in every way, except you won't find any for an aftermarket retrofit, and if you do, they won't be cheap. I'd love to hack up an Audi LED headlight and retrofit it, but that will come sometime later.

As far as HID bulbs in a reflector housing goes, I've had good and bad luck. I put HID bulbs in my SRT8's fog and highs, and they work extremely well. But I put HID bulbs in a friend's SV1000, and absolutely hated the light distribution. It depends on the reflector, some work well, others not so much.

madvlad
Fri Feb 15th, 2013, 06:44 AM
4300K are optimal for lumen output plus with right the projector housing those suckers light up the road extremely well. Our Infinitis have badass lighting, you don't even need your high beams on a really dark road, hell with them shits you can even see a cop from a mile away :lol:

TransNone13
Fri Feb 15th, 2013, 06:58 PM
Wow those are insane bright, any pics as far as road lighting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFCCsBRGvvQ

UHATEIT
Fri Mar 29th, 2013, 12:54 PM
To each his own, tho I have 8000K in my SV650. The bike is blue so I wanted something a little bluer. They still light up the night very well when riding. I use 6000K in all of my cars and have been on the last 7 cars I owned. And yes I know 4300K is ideal and 6000K is probably what most will rock, that or 5000K

Something I like about the 8000K is that with a little extra blue in them, they tend to stand out more so when you are trying to spot me in your mirror you can tell which bike is mine in a line of bikes or if I get lost and straggle behind the pack you can tell where I am (since I'm slow). Also, I like it for the noticeablility by automobiles, meaning they can tell there is a blue headlight bike coming up in the lane and they don't overlook me if they give a quick glance during a lane change. That to me means extra safety from lane changing drivers if I don't blend in with some of the stock HID lights people have in their cars.