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Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 10:56 AM
PLUGS

Do they work???? or should I buy a whole new set of tires... Anyone get Plugs and does it work for them?

Cuz I am going to need to get a plug in my rear tire since I got a nail in it.

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tecknojoe
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 10:59 AM
If you want a free Pilot Power 2CT rear (size 180), I have one. Sides are fairly worn from the track, middle has decent tread. You can have the matching front with it, it still has a lot of life. Can get pics later today

asp_125
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:01 AM
YMMV. I had a tire with a cord type plug in the center of the tread in a meaty spot, rode the winter with it commuting. OTOH I have a friend who used those push-in mushroom type plugs, and they blew out at 50mph+. Luckily it was on a straight and not a curve.

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:02 AM
If you want a free Pilot Power 2CT rear (size 180), I have one. Sides are fairly worn from the track, middle has decent tread. You can have the matching front with it, it still has a lot of life. Can get pics later today

Thanks Joe --- My rear tire is 190. That is what I am running with now -- PP2ct. I just don't know if running with a plug is ok or if I need to replace them now.

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:05 AM
YMMV. I had a tire with a cord type plug in the center of the tread in a meaty spot, rode the winter with it commuting. OTOH I have a friend who used those push-in mushroom type plugs, and they blew out at 50mph+. Luckily it was on a straight and not a curve.

That is good to know!!!! Everyone needs to know that!!!! I guess I would rather spend a few hundred on good tires than to chance it with a plug. I just don't if anyone has had success with plugs (save money).

WolFeYeZ
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:11 AM
Call TFOG, I think they do plugs and he can tell you if there are any real risks :)

asp_125
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:11 AM
I know there are different mushroom plugs that are installed from the INSIDE of the tire. They have a big disc that is glued down. Those would be less prone to bursting. But good luck even finding a shop that will patch a tire, I think the liability is too much for them.

Wrider
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:14 AM
Had a flat on my first set of 2CTs with less than 200 miles on them. Plugged the rear. Worked great for commuting, canyon carving, etc at speeds up to 130 for the rest of the tire.

Used these...
Gear (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Slime-Deluxe-Reamer-Plugger/16782762)
Plugs (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Slime-Tire-Repair-Plugs-30pk/16782747)

Officially you're supposed to buy new tires, according to every tire manufacturer there is. Unofficially, it's usually fine.
If you have the capabilities to dismount the tire, I'd suggest throwing in a mushroom type patch on the inside. If not, do what I did and it should be fine.

asp_125
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:19 AM
Had a flat on my first set of 2CTs with less than 200 miles on them. Plugged the rear. Worked great for commuting, canyon carving, etc at speeds up to 130 for the rest of the tire.

Used these...
Gear (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Slime-Deluxe-Reamer-Plugger/16782762)
Plugs (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Slime-Tire-Repair-Plugs-30pk/16782747)
..

Yup, same kind I used.

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 11:30 AM
Thanks Guys - I have that plug kit at home. I used it on the truck but then again I never had my FJ going 120 mph down the highway either.

I just want to know if I could go past 55 mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k) with the plugs

Matty
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 01:40 PM
If the hole is in the tread go for it. On the side wall get a new tire!!! John I've pluged plenty of tires and rode hard no problem.

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 01:46 PM
If the hole is in the tread go for it. On the side wall get a new tire!!! John I've pluged plenty of tires and rode hard no problem.
Thanks Matty!!! Didn't know if I had to get a new set --- The Tread is still really good/ I hardly broke the tires in and I don't want to get a new set just yet. It just have a nail in the tread.

TFOGGuys
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 01:58 PM
Call TFOG, I think they do plugs and he can tell you if there are any real risks :)

We do patches, from the inside. Plugs should never be considered a long term repair, only a way to get home. According to industry standards, holes smaller than .25 inch in diameter that occur in the center 60% of the tread may be repaired after inspection (which requires dismounting) for structural damage to the tire carcass. It is recommended that tires that are heavily loaded or used in extreme conditions not be repaired.

Jon: Call me, and I will appropriately abuse you... :slap:

Sean
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 01:59 PM
If the hole is in the tread go for it. On the side wall get a new tire!!! +1

The one place I wouldn't ride a plug is at the track.

Matty
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jon: Call me, and I will appropriately abuse you... :slap:

can i watch?

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 02:33 PM
We do patches, from the inside. Plugs should never be considered a long term repair, only a way to get home. According to industry standards, holes smaller than .25 inch in diameter that occur in the center 60% of the tread may be repaired after inspection (which requires dismounting) for structural damage to the tire carcass. It is recommended that tires that are heavily loaded or used in extreme conditions not be repaired.

Jon: Call me, and I will appropriately abuse you... :slap:


can i watch?

I will Jim - No!!! Matty can't watch!!! LOL
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jcj81
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 02:51 PM
Tire repairs have become a hot topic the past few years due to a lawsuit in the automotive repair world. The shop I work at had a company come out and do a training demo so everyone knows the proper "legal" way to repair car and light duty truck tires. I assume they have a set of guide lines for motorcycle tire repair as well, its not stick plug in it from Wal-mart. For a good repairable car/truck tire its a 10 step precess set by the Rubber Manufacturers Association. If my bike gets a hole in the tire I will just replace it for the peace of mind.

Guide for car/truck tire
http://www.rma.org/tire_safety/tire_maintenance_and_safety/tire_repair/

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:05 PM
Tire repairs have become a hot topic the past few years due to a lawsuit in the automotive repair world. The shop I work at had a company come out and do a training demo so everyone knows the proper "legal" way to repair car and light duty truck tires. I assume they have a set of guide lines for motorcycle tire repair as well, its not stick plug in it from Wal-mart. For a good repairable car/truck tire its a 10 step precess set by the Rubber Manufacturers Association. If my bike gets a hole in the tire I will just replace it for the peace of mind.

Guide for car/truck tire
http://www.rma.org/tire_safety/tire_maintenance_and_safety/tire_repair/

Now I am confused
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Wrider
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:19 PM
Tire repairs have become a hot topic the past few years due to a lawsuit in the automotive repair world. The shop I work at had a company come out and do a training demo so everyone knows the proper "legal" way to repair car and light duty truck tires. I assume they have a set of guide lines for motorcycle tire repair as well, its not stick plug in it from Wal-mart. For a good repairable car/truck tire its a 10 step precess set by the Rubber Manufacturers Association. If my bike gets a hole in the tire I will just replace it for the peace of mind.

Guide for car/truck tire
http://www.rma.org/tire_safety/tire_maintenance_and_safety/tire_repair/

According to the motorcycle tire manufacturers, plugs are completely unacceptable. According to tens of thousands of riders with millions of miles on plugs, as long as you do a good job, you're fine.

Ezzzzy1
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:21 PM
Two different types of "plugs". One involves taking the tire off the rim and fixing it from the inside out (a patch) and the other, easy fix, is literally just plugging it from the outside.

I have plugged plenty of rear tires and never had a problem... Or even ever heard of one.

Never had a problem on a front tire but I think thats where I would draw the line and replace it.

jcj81
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:44 PM
Now I am confused
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/4Horsman/Funny/toecutter_zpsce78da19.jpg
Sorry not trying to confuse just educate and make sure who ever you have look at your tire makes the proper and safe repair.

jcj81
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:48 PM
Two different types of "plugs". One involves taking the tire off the rim and fixing it from the inside out (a patch) and the other, easy fix, is literally just plugging it from the outside.

I have plugged plenty of rear tires and never had a problem... Or even ever heard of one.

Never had a problem on a front tire but I think thats where I would draw the line and replace it.

All automotive tires repaired at a shop must be plugged and patched both to be properly repaired within the guide lines, if you repair your own tire you can do whatever you would like, but repair shops must follow guide lines to stay within the law.

Horsman
Thu May 23rd, 2013, 03:57 PM
Sorry not trying to confuse just educate and make sure who ever you have look at your tire makes the proper and safe repair.


All automotive tires repaired at a shop must be plugged and patched both to be properly repaired within the guide lines, if you repair your own tire you can do whatever you would like, but repair shops must follow guide lines to stay within the law.

Thanks, it is all good -- I agree - It will be smart on my part to get new tires and be safe than to plug it and worry (I think a few hundred on tires is worth not destroying my bike especially when I am doing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKvXX6VCJ80) wait... was that CaneZach back there??? ).