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BadR6Man
Thu Mar 6th, 2014, 06:01 PM
Ok all. I'm going to shoot the next person I see on my property.

Someone actually stole my big ass 24 foot enclosed trailer last weekend. It is a white Hallmark trailer. Probably has some scratches and dents on right side as they took out my fence also. Has a CO tag 640-UPD. Reported it the police the next morning. How can the police not find a big ass white enclosed trailer. There is a spare tire on front of trailer and white numbers written on left side of front A frame which is maybe 8195 or something like that.

I am going to give it till this weekend before I claim it to much insurance. I just claimed $3600 from insurance when the trailer was broken into a few months ago and they stole most of my racing gear. insurance company is hating me already.

rockerphotographer
Thu Mar 6th, 2014, 06:13 PM
Any pics of the trailer?

WolFeYeZ
Thu Mar 6th, 2014, 06:24 PM
Sad to hear man :( Ill be on the lookout here in Denver.

mauser72
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oh man is this the one you had out at pueblo? That's a nice trailer sorry to hear I'll be keeping an eye out.

rybo
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 03:54 PM
Super sorry to hear and I totally feel your pain.

YrDaDy
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 04:02 PM
Thieves everywhere.. I had 2 dirt bikes stolen out of the back of my truck last fall.

Will keep a look out.

BadR6Man
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 05:27 PM
Oh man is this the one you had out at pueblo? That's a nice trailer sorry to hear I'll be keeping an eye out.

Yep that would be the big white trailer I had at pueblo. It was nice having it to transport everyone's bikes to the track and back.

BadR6Man
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 05:44 PM
Super sorry to hear and I totally feel your pain.

Did you ever recover your trailer?

MarkT
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 06:20 PM
Damn John sorry to hear this, glad your bikes weren't in it.

rybo
Fri Mar 7th, 2014, 07:45 PM
Did you ever recover your trailer?

Yes, it was found, but empty of the stuff that was in it. It was fully loaded when it was stolen. 3 bikes and enough gear for 4 people to go racing and pretty beat up. It's going to need some attention to get it looking decent again.

A couple of the bike have since been recovered as well, crashed and abandoned.

The accumulation of things over time is a real bugger. When you have to buy EVERYTHING all at once, well, it makes you realize how much you can spend on this sport.

I'm thankful to have some great sponsors over the years, they have been helping out a bunch. Anyone who wants to know who they are should message me, I would love to send you to the people who have been taking care of me as I'm pretty sure they will take care of you too.

I hope you find your trailer John. I am, of course, keeping my eyes open.

Scott

kawasakirob
Sat Mar 8th, 2014, 06:19 AM
Yes, it was found, but empty of the stuff that was in it.

Scott

Man that sucks.

Aaron
Sat Mar 8th, 2014, 09:08 AM
How can the police not find a big ass white enclosed trailer.
Not that this makes it any better, but to be honest, they don't even try. The Officer who took your report, if he came out to your house, would keep it in mind and keep a casual eye out for a week or so. But although the information on the trailer is sent to every working Officer, it's immediately discarded by all of them. This is mainly because they get so many of those BOLO's. Over the years as bad things happen they add those things to the list of needing BOLO's, and it got to the point where cops get about 30 a day at least. So we read the first line. If it said BOLO, we hit delete. Maybe some departments are slow enough to where the cops can read those and actually be cops, but every agency I've seen and worked at was too busy handling neighbor disputes because the lady's sprinklers were watering her neighbors yard by about a foot (True story).

Sorry to hear it happened, glad you got it back albeit missing everything and damaged. I wouldn't suggest shooting the next person, you will go to jail for that. But if you had to rough the guy up a little bit in order to hold him until the Police arrived, no cop in Colorado is going to care. Bleeding is ok. Dead not so much.

One-ops
Sat Mar 8th, 2014, 12:37 PM
Ah man that blows. Hope you at least get it back

Cars-R-Coffins
Thu Mar 13th, 2014, 04:00 PM
If it said BOLO, we hit delete.

I like an honest person, it's refreshing like a cold glass of water.

#1Townie
Thu Mar 13th, 2014, 10:53 PM
You want results talk to local repo companies and offer a reward. You would be surprised how much 200 bucks or so would go with a guy who spends his days driving up and down all the streets looking for their next pay check. Most of them only make about 50 bucks a car. They just need the vin number and a pic to really give them a good idea.

Aaron
Fri Mar 14th, 2014, 01:25 AM
That's not a bad idea honestly, or just a normal two truck driver. Either way they'd probably be happy to pick it up for you too.

BadR6Man
Sun Mar 23rd, 2014, 09:32 PM
Trailer is Still missing. Seriously? CO springs police is crap. They have plenty of officers to sit on Academy and wait to write tickets. Where is my trailer? Ugh!

Aaron
Sun Mar 23rd, 2014, 11:07 PM
It's not their fault you didn't secure your trailer. And it isn't their fault it hasn't been found.

They have to to follow the rules, and people's rights. If someone doesn't want that trailer found, it never will be. Put it in a garage with no windows, and it's vanished. And if you want to use it, take the plates off, and either strip the serial number or change it just enough that it's different. Any one of these, and there's nothing the cops can do. The only reason criminals get caught is because they're stupid. Like that video posted a while back, the smart criminals work downtown in high rise corner offices.

Take it from someone who knows, CSPD is one of the better agencies in Colorado.

rforsythe
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 08:18 AM
Don't listen to him. It's always the cops' faults, for everything. :D

Wrider
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 10:34 AM
CSPD may be one of the better ones, but when it takes 12 hours for them to respond to a burglary, then 20 minutes, a cursory investigation, not taking fingerprints, not talking to the neighbors who saw a suspicious vehicle cruising the neighborhood, it's ridiculous. It becomes downright asinine when you see cops setting speed traps and waiting on people doing 4 over during the 12 hours you're waiting for them to respond...

Aaron
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 11:30 AM
Unfortunately that's pretty much par for the course, and definitely not just with CSPD. Sounds exactly how many agencies do things. I'm not saying it's right.

If I was dictator, I'd make some pretty huge changes. First, I'd abolish the traffic unit completely. Move every one back to patrol. In my old agency, we had roughly 25% of our sworn positions assigned to investigations. I'd abolish these almost entirely, move every guy back to patrol, with the exception of about half the Homicide Detectives. I'd move every Officer assigned to task forces and Narcotics units back to patrol. Now that our patrol force has nearly doubled, we can work on improving crime rates. When citizens see the results of this, they'll approve tax bikes, and we'll get our funding that way.

rforsythe
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 12:29 PM
CSPD may be one of the better ones, but when it takes 12 hours for them to respond to a burglary, then 20 minutes, a cursory investigation, not taking fingerprints, not talking to the neighbors who saw a suspicious vehicle cruising the neighborhood, it's ridiculous. It becomes downright asinine when you see cops setting speed traps and waiting on people doing 4 over during the 12 hours you're waiting for them to respond...

It's pretty normal. They aren't going to expend increasingly limited resources on a full-blown investigation that has a very low probability of turning up anything whatsoever, especially when nobody was physically hurt and you can just file an insurance claim. Maybe they might lift a useful print off your busted fence, and maybe that person is in the system for some other reason, but those are big 'if's. Doesn't sound like your trailer was hugely unique in its identifications, which is also why it was targeted - nobody would ever think twice about a normal looking white trailer going down the highway. Also chances are it was out of the Springs area before you even made the call on it.

Trailers are enticing targets because they are usually easily stolen, usable for a range of things that make the thief money, and really pretty hard to recover. Rybo got lucky on this last go around, partly I think because when I had that trailer previously I adorned it with racing stickers. They tried to paint over it, couldn't hide them completely, and eventually ditched it rather than get caught pulling it around (which would have been more ideal IMO). Even with the trailer back, I doubt the cops 'dusted for prints' to see if they could catch the offender.

Really all you can do is insure it, and lock the hell out of it. Even the relatively cheap flatbed I just bought is secured enough that it would take some very determined work to hook up to it. Bolt cutters might get through the first hardened lock, but the second one would take an angle grinder to cut metal off - something both time consuming, and attention-getting due to the noise and shower of sparks that would ensue.

Sorry your trailer got lifted. It's frustrating, expensive, and just sucks all around. But like someone kicking in your door, the reality is that the cops will always be 5 minutes (or 12 hours) late, and you need to do everything conceivable to protect your ass(ets).

#1Townie
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 01:51 PM
Speaking from the aspect of having to pick up all those stolen cars in the springs you guys would be surprised how many are picked up each day in the springs.

But really as much as I hate cops there isn't going to be much in the way of investigation. Think about how big that town is and how much cops have to do. A stolen trailer isn't going to be very high on the priority list.

But none the less.... ftp. Just for Aaron.

rforsythe
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 02:37 PM
But none the less.... ftp. Just for Aaron.

Straight outta Compton...

#1Townie
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 02:53 PM
Straight outta Compton...

Fo shizzle.

BadR6Man
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 09:47 PM
Come on now. A 24 - 8.5 - 8 foot enclosed trailer is quite huge. You cant hide or fit it into a typical garage.

Insurance? Good luck trying to get what you paid and invested in it. Which is close to $10 k. Take $1000 straight off the top for deductible. Yes this sucks for me but it is what it is.

So what if I do get a check from insurance. I cash it. And then my trailer is found and returned to me? Do I reimburse insurance company money? Minus the damages to the trailer?

longrider
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 10:10 PM
When insurance pays you for a theft you sign the title over to the insurance company and they now own the trailer. I dont know if you can buy it back from the insurance company if found or if it has to go to the salvage auction.

Wrider
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 11:12 PM
It's pretty normal. They aren't going to expend increasingly limited resources on a full-blown investigation that has a very low probability of turning up anything whatsoever, especially when nobody was physically hurt and you can just file an insurance claim. Maybe they might lift a useful print off your busted fence, and maybe that person is in the system for some other reason, but those are big 'if's. Doesn't sound like your trailer was hugely unique in its identifications, which is also why it was targeted - nobody would ever think twice about a normal looking white trailer going down the highway. Also chances are it was out of the Springs area before you even made the call on it.

Trailers are enticing targets because they are usually easily stolen, usable for a range of things that make the thief money, and really pretty hard to recover. Rybo got lucky on this last go around, partly I think because when I had that trailer previously I adorned it with racing stickers. They tried to paint over it, couldn't hide them completely, and eventually ditched it rather than get caught pulling it around (which would have been more ideal IMO). Even with the trailer back, I doubt the cops 'dusted for prints' to see if they could catch the offender.

Really all you can do is insure it, and lock the hell out of it. Even the relatively cheap flatbed I just bought is secured enough that it would take some very determined work to hook up to it. Bolt cutters might get through the first hardened lock, but the second one would take an angle grinder to cut metal off - something both time consuming, and attention-getting due to the noise and shower of sparks that would ensue.

Sorry your trailer got lifted. It's frustrating, expensive, and just sucks all around. But like someone kicking in your door, the reality is that the cops will always be 5 minutes (or 12 hours) late, and you need to do everything conceivable to protect your ass(ets).

No I didn't have a trailer stolen. We had a guy break into our house a few years ago. We even showed the cop where the prints would most likely be (he came through a window into some blinds). We found out more by researching than the cop found out when he showed up.

#1Townie
Mon Mar 24th, 2014, 11:34 PM
When insurance pays you for a theft you sign the title over to the insurance company and they now own the trailer. I dont know if you can buy it back from the insurance company if found or if it has to go to the salvage auction.

You can buy it back from insurance.

R6man odds are its not even in the springs anymore. If it is its in a shop. You would be surprised the hiding places for stolen units. Working for Randys I picked up all sorts of cars from crazy places.

One time two streets over from my place picked up a wrx stripped to just a rolling shell. Who ever did it just rolled it down the hill into a park at about 3am.

Husky
Tue Mar 25th, 2014, 06:35 PM
Just wondering if anyone has a insurance company that not only covers the trailer but the contents. My Farmers will only do the trailer telling me I have to get individual insurance if I carry a dirt bike, atv etc.

FZRguy
Thu Mar 27th, 2014, 02:08 AM
Any motor vehicle requires a separate policy. Personal property (tools, leathers, etc.) is covered under a homeowners or renters policy.

BadR6Man
Mon May 19th, 2014, 11:10 PM
So I got my trailer back last monday from police impound lot. :)

it has some more dings on it and there was a hotel baggage cart in it and likely broken auto glass. Also found two cut padlocks that werent mine. Steal a trailer to steal more stuff. Wtf. Havent called for a police report yet to see where they found it or if they caught who stole it. No visible attempts of finger printing at all.

Happy I got it back. Now I have to deal with insurance company again to report it recovered since they wrote me a check fot it. Ugh. :(

Cars-R-Coffins
Tue May 20th, 2014, 10:21 PM
Let it sit in impound. Keep your insurance check and call it a day.