What does one do after they stop riding?? Potential NSFW

[Grim2.0]

So most of you know i stopped riding for my own reasons, this left me with a lot of time on my hands because any free time i had was spent riding in the canyons. I had to find something to occupy my time and i needed a challenge to strive/focus towards.

I am very active in the gym and for the most part (or i thought) had a very healthy diet, i decided i wanted to compete for my first time in a Mens Physique contest, for those who do not know what that is it i can be compared to body building. However in body building the comeptitors are very large in size mens physique is not about how BIG and lean you can get but how LEAN you can get, how conditioned your body is, how proportionate you are, and most importantly legs DO NOT count. This gives tall lanky fuckers like myself a chance to compete. it has been around only for 2 years so is fairly new but has expanded a lot and itself is still a very tough challenge to prepare for.


I hired a professional trainer to handle all of my food and supervise my progression for 4 months. I started my diet on 4/26/14 in preparation for my show on Aug 21st. I had a very good workout regiment so my trainer did not have to instruct me on how to workout properly but boy did my diet change in a big way. My trainer is not in Colorado either, he is in Salt lake City but he is one of the better ones out there and he has managed me and trained through weekly pictures, videos, and through text.

Today 7/9/14 i am 6 1/2 weeks from my show and let me say this training has kept me very very busy!! my meals are strict and on a schedule that i have made to ensure i follow them and take in the nutrients i am supposed to. Between working a full 8 hour day, then being at the gym for 2 hours, then dpeending on the day if i had chicken cooked or not i spent another 1.5 to 2 hours cooking food.

starting out i was eating the following every day:
8oz chicken 3 times a day
8 egg whites with 2 yolks (yolks are good fat)
120 grams of carbs (rice, tortilla, potatoes, fruit) 4 times a day
as many greens as i want (asparagus, kale, spinach, etc etc)
128OZ of water minimum
2 protein shakes mine were used as pre workout and post
5OZ of avocado or 15 raw almonds or a spoonfull of peanut butter as my good fats. 3 times a day


after 3 weeks i had to bring carb intake down
100 grams of carbs

week 6 cutdown to 85 grams of carbs and 1 egg yolk in the am

week 9 and right now i am only at 50 carbs a day and its only twice a day, in the AM and at lunch.

To explain how this feels: basically i am never hungry, i take in plenty of protein for my muscles to use for repair, however carb = energy but less carb means faster fat burning, so i am fulll, but by lunch have no damn energy.

My body has adapted to give me energy after a protein shake befroe my workout and i am able to lift as normal but as i get closer my workout has intensified a lot going from normal reps and sets of 6 to high weight lifting to failure of muscle. It drains me very fast but is very effective.

Below are pictures of day one to this past monday...i cut the first pics in half because they were in my undies and you all dont need to see that, also before you say it i will say it first, yes my legs are the followig: skinny, twigs, twiggy, small, blah blah. I know and i will fix that but right now for the competition i have to focus on my upper half as it is all that matters.


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DAY 1
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4 WEEKS FROM STARTING

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7 WEEKS FROM STARTING
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THIS PAST MONDAY

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I will have to load the back shot but as you can see there is a huge change, while i thought i was in great shape looking good....i was wrong



I iwll post updates as i can but thought i would share while i had a free moment.

[#1Townie]

Drugs... This guys is doing crack. Look at the evidence.


















No really bro congrats.

[~Barn~]

:lol: I liked you better as a motorcycle rider.














Congrats man.

[madvlad]

Nice man, crazy how a good diet and a proper trainer will do when it comes to stuff like that.

[Tiutis]

Now if only you had a Ducati, you could join these guys: http://www.demilked.com/hot-mess-motocorsa-ducati-panigale-1199/
Good job! One thing I cannot help but point out, there is no need not to do legs, at least once a week. Not only would your lower body look better and more proportionate to the upper body, but also it would help you take your upper body to another level.

[rush4theyeho]

Now if only you had a Ducati, you could join these guys: http://www.demilked.com/hot-mess-motocorsa-ducati-panigale-1199/
Good job! One thing I cannot help but point out, there is no need not to do legs, at least once a week. Not only would your lower body look better and more proportionate to the upper body, but also it would help you take your upper body to another level.

Wait, what? I've had to re-read this line a few times.

Congrats on the results! Very jealous. Must be nice being able to shed the belly fat. That's the one part of the body I'm having the most trouble trimming down. Asides from diet, there's no easy way to get rid of it right?

[Drama2]

Wink wink....nice. Big improvement with the abs..

[Grim2.0]

Drugs... This guys is doing crack. Look at the evidence.

No really bro congrats.

:lol: would've been faster, thanks man!



:lol: I liked you better as a motorcycle rider.

Congrats man.
Me too lol but the wife prefers this!!



Nice man, crazy how a good diet and a proper trainer will do when it comes to stuff like that.

True that brother I have my trainer a lot to thank for.



Now if only you had a Ducati, you could join these guys: http://www.demilked.com/hot-mess-motocorsa-ducati-panigale-1199/
Good job! One thing I cannot help but point out, there is no need not to do legs, at least once a week. Not only would your lower body look better and more proportionate to the upper body, but also it would help you take your upper body to another level.

This this is partially true, but it is not true for everyone, some people can have a larger upper body with small legs and it stays that way, no matter how hard they try their legs will not get bigger. The rumor that you have to work your legs to increase size in your upper body is not true. While there is no argument it certainly looks silly, it is not necessary. I unfortunately do not have it in my schedule to work legs because I don't have time I have to do chest and shoulders twice a week as they are weak points that need to be improved. That's 4 days right there then 1 day for back and 1 day for arms. It is not recommended to workout more than 6 days a week as the body needs a full 24 hours to rest.

Hope or that helps explain a little




Wait, what? I've had to re-read this line a few times.

Congrats on the results! Very jealous. Must be nice being able to shed the belly fat. That's the one part of the body I'm having the most trouble trimming down. Asides from diet, there's no easy way to get rid of it right?


Correct, don't let anyone tell you or any stupid video tell you that doing specific ab workouts will give you six pack and, because it's all bullshit. Fun fact not many people know is that Abs are genetic you are born with 2 pack, 4 pack, 6 pack or 8 pack or no pack. The Abs are all one big muscle any exercise you do will not target certain points of the abs nor will it form them. If you have them doing weighted ab workouts will cause them to protrude out more and enlarge them.

As as far as making them show....diet diet diet. It's the only way. Have to be lean to show what you have.


Wink wink....nice. Big improvement with the abs..

Much obliged, I figured some gals would like the pics :lol:

[Tiutis]

Don't mean to start long conversation but your coach needs some coaching.

You do not need to work your legs to increase your upper body, just like you don't need to go to the gym to loose weight. But.... it helps.

Squats and deadlifts:


1. Help you get shredded faster by expanding the most cals
2. Produces the most T and human growth hormone
3. Allows your upper body a brake during the off days.
4. Helps build core, grip, back thickness, lats...

I wish I had known this when I started out training. Oh well, you live and learn...




:lol: would've been faster, thanks man!



This this is partially true, but it is not true for everyone, some people can have a larger upper body with small legs and it stays that way, no matter how hard they try their legs will not get bigger. The rumor that you have to work your legs to increase size in your upper body is not true. While there is no argument it certainly looks silly, it is not necessary. I unfortunately do not have it in my schedule to work legs because I don't have time I have to do chest and shoulders twice a week as they are weak points that need to be improved. That's 4 days right there then 1 day for back and 1 day for arms. It is not recommended to workout more than 6 days a week as the body needs a full 24 hours to rest.

Hope or that helps explain a little








Much obliged, I figured some gals would like the pics :lol:

[Grim2.0]

Don't mean to start long conversation but your coach needs some coaching.

You do not need to work your legs to increase your upper body, just like you don't need to go to the gym to loose weight. But.... it helps.

Squats and deadlifts:


1. Help you get shredded faster by expanding the most cals
2. Produces the most T and human growth hormone
3. Allows your upper body a brake during the off days.
4. Helps build core, grip, back thickness, lats...

I wish I had known this when I started out training. Oh well, you live and learn...

no argument here, it most certainly helps, but is not necessary. But that's why I said it's not true for everyone, what is good for you and your body may not be good for your neighbor down the street, we were not all built the same. I actually know a guy who does legs twice a week along with a normal upper body workout, his upper half is large, he stays lean and his legs are as small as mine. No matter how much he tries his legs won't get any larger, there's options obviously but he is not into steroids so he has accepted his legs will always be small.

Ab workouts will help you're core and lower back, as well as dead lifts, doing cardio (stair climbing or incline walking) will help lean you out on top of a low carb intake diet.

I fully plan to work my legs and get them proportionate to my body but remember I am doing all of this for a competition based on the waistline and up. So in the meantime I need to focus and train what's important to the judges.

Everybody has there here method that works for them when you can find just the right balance of carb and protein intake plus a workout you can accomplish a lot but it takes time to find the balance. Some workouts work better on one body more than the other.

[GMR]

Drugs... This guys is doing crack. Look at the evidence.



I thought you beat me to it for a second, but looks like you're accusing and not suggesting...
If I had nothing but free time on my hands and nothing to use my free time on, I know I'd be fists deep into drugs...

[mdub]

Grt results grimsta!!! That is some serious discipline. I dunno if I can ever follow thru. I work on upper body a cpl times a week, but abs are most difficult ..

[birchyboy]

Hey Grim. Great progress! I know you've gone a lot farther with this than I could ever do.

One question - why don't legs count? It seems like it's more of a "beach body" competition than a physique competition. I know the idea isn't to become hugely muscled but more lean and defined. It seems like the legs should be part of this overall consideration for any judging.

[bulldog]

I am probably one of the few that understand how hard a diet like this is...I have not been able to do it and get my body fat that low, so good job man....hardest part of doing any show is the diet! I watch how my buddies that do shows eat…hardcore! Beer…yeah right…pizza, now way….eating out, almost impossible!

As for legs, you guys have to understand this is a "Physique" contest and I don't think Grim said he has never done legs, just that they are not judged now so why work on them; I agree though working out legs do help upper body……although saying that I have learned to trust in your personal trainer. I assume Grim’s has experience in the Physique contests so sometimes it is best to just listen to the pros and not argue…got me where I am at; hated my trainer when he put me on 5000+ calories a day and got me fat….now I still adopt his techniques to “bulk” and “lean”, works for me.

Plus like Grim said “Physique” was made for guys that are not into getting big and more just lean and cut; therefore a lot of contestants are taller guys. Seeing as there has never been a tall Mr. Olympia (average height is 5’9”) it has been shown that taller guys have a harder time producing massive leg muscles and even overall muscle like short guys can; been a issue with bodybuiling for many years! So I feel they took out the legs aspect because if not these guys would have to spend 90% of their workouts on legs because it is harder for them. Just different competitions shows……believe me it has been controversial since the Physique show was introduced!

You know I support you homey! Anyone that even works out consistently I give props too, much less guys that take it to this level.


Tiutis…I think this is the first time I’ve heard you talk about fitness. As you can probably see I am into it a lot. You lift/workout? You happen to be a trainer? Just curious as always down to chat and see what other people do

[Grim2.0]

Hey Grim. Great progress! I know you've gone a lot farther with this than I could ever do.

One question - why don't legs count? It seems like it's more of a "beach body" competition than a physique competition. I know the idea isn't to become hugely muscled but more lean and defined. It seems like the legs should be part of this overall consideration for any judging.


What Bullldog said, pretty much nails it, the Men's Physique is more geared towards taller people such as myself 6' 4" that have trouble building the leg muscles, if you are already somewhat large or you start very early in life it's easier to decide you want to do this and have large legs and large upper body but there are really only a very select few younger people who want to do this because the diet is so strict and what kid doesn't want to eat what they want? Taller people tend to already have skinny legs, it basically gives us a chance to compete, the rules may change but right now its waistline and up. If i were about 5' 6 or so i would look much much bigger and may even be able to do a body building show but im not so :lol:

Mens physique is judged in height classes, i am competing in two divisions Open class, (if i win my height class i compete against the other 1st place winner in their class) I will be in the 5' 8" and up class.
My other is Novice, as its my first show and i will be in the 6' and up class.

[Grim2.0]

I am probably one of the few that understand how hard a diet like this is...I have not been able to do it and get my body fat that low, so good job man....hardest part of doing any show is the diet! I watch how my buddies that do shows eat…hardcore! Beer…yeah right…pizza, now way….eating out, almost impossible!

As for legs, you guys have to understand this is a "Physique" contest and I don't think Grim said he has never done legs, just that they are not judged now so why work on them; I agree though working out legs do help upper body……although saying that I have learned to trust in your personal trainer. I assume Grim’s has experience in the Physique contests so sometimes it is best to just listen to the pros and not argue…got me where I am at; hated my trainer when he put me on 5000+ calories a day and got me fat….now I still adopt his techniques to “bulk” and “lean”, works for me.

Plus like Grim said “Physique” was made for guys that are not into getting big and more just lean and cut; therefore a lot of contestants are taller guys. Seeing as there has never been a tall Mr. Olympia (average height is 5’9”) it has been shown that taller guys have a harder time producing massive leg muscles and even overall muscle like short guys can; been a issue with bodybuiling for many years! So I feel they took out the legs aspect because if not these guys would have to spend 90% of their workouts on legs because it is harder for them. Just different competitions shows……believe me it has been controversial since the Physique show was introduced!

You know I support you homey! Anyone that even works out consistently I give props too, much less guys that take it to this level.


Tiutis…I think this is the first time I’ve heard you talk about fitness. As you can probably see I am into it a lot. You lift/workout? You happen to be a trainer? Just curious as always down to chat and see what other people do

Bingo,

Thanks man,

[birchyboy]

Good luck!

[bulldog]

Here is a good comparison; look at legs!

Phil Health 5'9"; Arnold 6'2"
http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-vs-phil-heathronnie-coleman-vs-arnold-swarchenegger-o-verdadeiro-duelo-intemporal-f8phwsxc.jpg

Yet arms...pretty similar
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1011566_539229289465773_1083967205_n.jpg

[Clovis]

Grim, that's pretty damn impressive! Makes me want to do the same all though not for competition but rather just to get back down to my "fighting weight" as Mrs. Clovis puts it :)

[The Black Knight]

Here is a good comparison; look at legs!

Phil Health 5'9"; Arnold 6'2"
http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-vs-phil-heathronnie-coleman-vs-arnold-swarchenegger-o-verdadeiro-duelo-intemporal-f8phwsxc.jpg

Yet arms...pretty similar
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1011566_539229289465773_1083967205_n.jpg

First pic is actually Ronnie Colman, not Phil Heath. Second pic is Phil.

[bulldog]

First pic is actually Ronnie Colman, not Phil Heath. Second pic is Phil. Crap..I always confuse the two (I need color pic to see Phil's eyes :lol: ). Well same point. Ronnie is actually taller than Phil at 5'11'

Here are Phil's legs

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/olympia-weekend-2012-phil-heath-interview-with-the-defending-champ_a.jpg

And I don't mean ALL tall people can't get huge legs, but there has never been a tall Mr.Olympia…Arnold may have been tallest, but I could be wrong


May as well throw Jay in there too...probable the richest Mr Olympia
http://bizweekpopularity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ronnie-coleman-vs-arnold-schwarzenegger-measurementscompare--arnold-schwarzenneger-vs-ronnie-coleman-vs-jay-cutler-qh70htdq.png
stats on three http://fullspike.com/_bodybuilding/_bodybuilders/_images/arnold-schwarzenegger-vs-ronnie-coleman-vs-jay-cutler-comparison_smoke_9000x3408.png


You into all this Black Knight?

[Grim2.0]

Jay is worth some 30 million dollars, Phil is around 5 million but jay has a lot more sponsorship where Phil likes to freelance, Phil is also a local from Colorado.

[FZRguy]

Nice work there, Grim. If you want to keep riding, buy a mountain bike and hit the local trails. Tons of fun, not as dangerous as moto, killer workout, and I guarantee your legs will get bigger.

[bulldog]

Nice work there, Grim. If you want to keep riding, buy a mountain bike and hit the local trails. Tons of fun, not as dangerous as moto, killer workout, and I guarantee your legs will get bigger. or Grim and I should buy a dirtbike (not together, but one each. lol) ! I've been considering this now myself...no cops and and crazy car drivers!

[Mother Goose]

http://www.distractify.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/01//people-who-prove-you-should-never-skip-leg-day-13.jpg

:lol: Looking good man! Wish I had the discipline to do it.

[j0ker]

or Grim and I should buy a dirtbike (not together, but one each. lol) ! I've been considering this now myself...no cops and and crazy car drivers!

Oh hell yes! I have been riding the crap outta dirt lately. Come play bulldoggie!

[bulldog]

Oh hell yes! I have been riding the crap outta dirt lately. Come play bulldoggie! I would already, but my issue is no truck and not really down to tow with the new WRX...I know it can be done, but not really down as that is my baby.

I need to get a cheap truck.

[Grim2.0]

So today was a true test in how difficult it is to maintain this diet and preparation, as the contest gets closer my workout has intensified thusly causing my body to push even harder to repair and recover. Today was the first day I felt physically and mentally completely drained. I had zero energy and a baaaad attitude, my body was working in overdrive to repair after intense workouts after eating a full large meal 5 minutes after I didn't even feel like I had eaten. My body has reached a state where it burns my food up almost immediately In order to get put to use for repair and energy, problem is so much gets used for repair there is nothing left for energy. I am still taking in a small amount of carbs but at this level it's almost like I'm not taking in any all.


The good I am now leaning out even faster and gaining at the same time



the bad anything I smell that isn't chicken turns me into the hulk and it's almost like the smell is intensified to be delicious 10x more than normal!!!!

mentally tired and hard to stay awake which is abnormal, may have to start drinking coffee, physically sore/tired/ and have no energy.


not complaining, just educating obviously this is all by choice and at any pinky I can stop but that's what makes this even harder.


5 weeks from my contest I am told 4 weeks is the home stretch so I'm going to keep pushing and I will update you all in a week or so.

[The Black Knight]

You into all this Black Knight?
I must have missed this man, sorry I didn't check back.

Back in my early to mid 20's I started lifting weights pretty hardcore. I was never into getting ripped and shredded though. I was going for all out power and bulking up. I had to quit lifting heavy after I screwed up my shoulder when I went down back in 2006. I've never been able to lift heavy since. Ever since I got my injury I've been on again and off again in terms of weight lifting. I'm getting ready to do my "on again" routine and thinking of going back to Gold's Gym. I wish World's Gym was still around but they went belly up several years back. Of all the gyms I've had memberships too, I think World's was the best. Started at the YMCA and they got to expensive. Then went to World's for several years and went they closed down I worked out at home for a little bit. Then was at Gold's for about 2 years before they closed the South branch here in the Springs. They just opened up a new branch here in the Springs that's not real far for me to travel too. I may check them out and join up.

[Ezzzzy1]

This isnt me... But if I gave up riding this is what I would look like.












































































Daddy fat stacks!

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[bulldog]

So today was a true test in how difficult it is to maintain this diet and preparation, as the contest gets closer my workout has intensified thusly causing my body to push even harder to repair and recover. Today was the first day I felt physically and mentally completely drained. I had zero energy and a baaaad attitude, my body was working in overdrive to repair after intense workouts after eating a full large meal 5 minutes after I didn't even feel like I had eaten. My body has reached a state where it burns my food up almost immediately In order to get put to use for repair and energy, problem is so much gets used for repair there is nothing left for energy. I am still taking in a small amount of carbs but at this level it's almost like I'm not taking in any all.


The good I am now leaning out even faster and gaining at the same time



the bad anything I smell that isn't chicken turns me into the hulk and it's almost like the smell is intensified to be delicious 10x more than normal!!!!

mentally tired and hard to stay awake which is abnormal, may have to start drinking coffee, physically sore/tired/ and have no energy.


not complaining, just educating obviously this is all by choice and at any pinky I can stop but that's what makes this even harder.


5 weeks from my contest I am told 4 weeks is the home stretch so I'm going to keep pushing and I will update you all in a week or so. This seems pretty normal as most my buddies that do shows go through this too....seriously to the point where a few weeks from their shows we all leave them alone at gym because they are so damn grumpy! And these are guys that are usually so nice! It seriously is the hardest part of all this and this is why I give such props to the people who do it because I am not sure I can. I miss eating even once on my every two hours and I feel like my stomach is eating itself and I start to get sick and grumpy bad!

Keep it up buddy! You have gone this far and if you can finish this just think of all the willpower you will have that most people could not do!

I must have missed this man, sorry I didn't check back.

Back in my early to mid 20's I started lifting weights pretty hardcore. I was never into getting ripped and shredded though. I was going for all out power and bulking up. I had to quit lifting heavy after I screwed up my shoulder when I went down back in 2006. I've never been able to lift heavy since. Ever since I got my injury I've been on again and off again in terms of weight lifting. I'm getting ready to do my "on again" routine and thinking of going back to Gold's Gym. I wish World's Gym was still around but they went belly up several years back. Of all the gyms I've had memberships too, I think World's was the best. Started at the YMCA and they got to expensive. Then went to World's for several years and went they closed down I worked out at home for a little bit. Then was at Gold's for about 2 years before they closed the South branch here in the Springs. They just opened up a new branch here in the Springs that's not real far for me to travel too. I may check them out and join up. I feel you man...one of the reason I had to give up lifting super heavy was my past injuries; broke pelvis which led to back problems, tore rotator cuffs led to shoulder problems, and 7 tendons cut in right hand that led to tendonitis. I still lift heavy for a few weeks so I can get the gains from it, but I eventually get to a point where I feel my body can't take it anymore and I go back to lighter a bit. Actually has been working well for me now because my body gets used to one way then I switch it up. Overall I think just working out helps me a lot because of my back issue and keeping my core strong has made my back issue nearly go away.

I recently started going to a chiro and then getting deep tissue massages and I feel that helps. You ever tried or considered it? The deep tissue massages kind of hurt, but they seems to release a lot of "tension" points and relieve those. I know a guy that bills it under physical therapy and the chiro is covered under medical. I feel both are pretty good if you are interested.

Yeah my wife always raves about World Gyms and was sad when they went under as she said they were her favorite too. I'd love to join Golds Gym, but as far as I know there are only two in Denver and all are a far drive from me. I'd like to get away from 24 Hour Fitness as I feel they are terrible about maintaining their equipment and site. I am grandfathered in under a $19 a month plan for any gym (minus one here) so that is hard to beat. I'd really like to join Armhurst here as that is focus more on lifting.

Well good luck on starting again. If I can be any help hit me up...heck you may be able to help me too; not saying I am the expert, just like to help :)


This isnt me... But if I gave up riding this is what I would look like.

Daddy fat stacks!

I used to feel this same way; my life was a lot about making money. I was on 2 academic scholarships for electrical engineering and was getting set up to make sick money....even got a tattoo of a dollar sign (covered up now) when I was 18 because of it. Then I was in a car accident and watched my 16 year old cousin die right in front of me that I loved a lot; basically she choose the wrong back seat of me (I did die in that car accident and came back to life; miracle case they say). That really changed my perspective of life and made me see that money can't buy the most important things.....just my story though :dunno:

[Grim2.0]

I must have missed this man, sorry I didn't check back.

Back in my early to mid 20's I started lifting weights pretty hardcore. I was never into getting ripped and shredded though. I was going for all out power and bulking up. I had to quit lifting heavy after I screwed up my shoulder when I went down back in 2006. I've never been able to lift heavy since. Ever since I got my injury I've been on again and off again in terms of weight lifting. I'm getting ready to do my "on again" routine and thinking of going back to Gold's Gym. I wish World's Gym was still around but they went belly up several years back. Of all the gyms I've had memberships too, I think World's was the best. Started at the YMCA and they got to expensive. Then went to World's for several years and went they closed down I worked out at home for a little bit. Then was at Gold's for about 2 years before they closed the South branch here in the Springs. They just opened up a new branch here in the Springs that's not real far for me to travel too. I may check them out and join up.

Golds Gym isnt quite dead yet, it is franchised so they still have them on the west coat and they have a huge one in Salt Lake City, all of the ones in Colorado went out though because 24hour came in. I can relate to the whole shoulder issue, if you look at my pics i have a huge ass scar on my left shoulder, and i am actually missing a muscle from surgery. Good to hear you are going to get back on it though, its always good to be healthy and have a goal.


This isnt me... But if I gave up riding this is what I would look like.



Daddy fat stacks!

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If i ever got good enough and pushed to keep doing this that could be me minus the fat part :lol: The Pro's that get sponsorship make a shiny little penny, to get paid to lift and stay in shape would be the best job in the damn world for me!!!!!


This seems pretty normal as most my buddies that do shows go through this too....seriously to the point where a few weeks from their shows we all leave them alone at gym because they are so damn grumpy! And these are guys that are usually so nice! It seriously is the hardest part of all this and this is why I give such props to the people who do it because I am not sure I can. I miss eating even once on my every two hours and I feel like my stomach is eating itself and I start to get sick and grumpy bad!

Keep it up buddy! You have gone this far and if you can finish this just think of all the willpower you will have that most people could not do!
I feel you man...one of the reason I had to give up lifting super heavy was my past injuries; broke pelvis which led to back problems, tore rotator cuffs led to shoulder problems, and 7 tendons cut in right hand that led to tendonitis. I still lift heavy for a few weeks so I can get the gains from it, but I eventually get to a point where I feel my body can't take it anymore and I go back to lighter a bit. Actually has been working well for me now because my body gets used to one way then I switch it up. Overall I think just working out helps me a lot because of my back issue and keeping my core strong has made my back issue nearly go away.




Thanks man, imagine how i feel, i eat every 2 hours but my body burns the food so fast after only 5 minutes i am hungry again, basically its im happy while eating then after i am done im sad, then grumpy :lol:

[bulldog]

I think Black Knight was talking about World's Gym...I believe they went under in CO at least

EDIT: Ok, looks like the two Gold's Gym also went under and now only CO Springs has one...lucky bastards! :lol:

[Grim2.0]

I think Black Knight was talking about World's Gym...I believe they went under in CO at least

EDIT: Ok, looks like the two Gold's Gym also went under and now only CO Springs has one...lucky bastards! :lol:

World's Gym is also franchised my dad had one back in 2005 but went under due to not putting the money where he should have. there is a Worlds gym in Pueblo.

[bulldog]

World's Gym is also franchised my dad had one back in 2005 but went under due to not putting the money where he should have. there is a Worlds gym in Pueblo. Interesting....tell your pops to bring it back to Denver! As it is I hear most people are going to Armhurst now because we have no World's or Gold's gyms....many of us want a dedicated gym to lifting instead of the 24 Hour and Bally clubs.

Crazy Pueblo has one and Springs has a Golds...has to be because the Bally and 24Hour franchises took over. Just wish they were ran better....mine always has broken equipment for months till they fix it and place is dirty

[The Black Knight]

I feel you man...one of the reason I had to give up lifting super heavy was my past injuries; broke pelvis which led to back problems, tore rotator cuffs led to shoulder problems, and 7 tendons cut in right hand that led to tendonitis. I still lift heavy for a few weeks so I can get the gains from it, but I eventually get to a point where I feel my body can't take it anymore and I go back to lighter a bit. Actually has been working well for me now because my body gets used to one way then I switch it up. Overall I think just working out helps me a lot because of my back issue and keeping my core strong has made my back issue nearly go away.

I recently started going to a chiro and then getting deep tissue massages and I feel that helps. You ever tried or considered it? The deep tissue massages kind of hurt, but they seems to release a lot of "tension" points and relieve those. I know a guy that bills it under physical therapy and the chiro is covered under medical. I feel both are pretty good if you are interested.

Yeah my wife always raves about World Gyms and was sad when they went under as she said they were her favorite too. I'd love to join Golds Gym, but as far as I know there are only two in Denver and all are a far drive from me. I'd like to get away from 24 Hour Fitness as I feel they are terrible about maintaining their equipment and site. I am grandfathered in under a $19 a month plan for any gym (minus one here) so that is hard to beat. I'd really like to join Armhurst here as that is focus more on lifting.

Well good luck on starting again. If I can be any help hit me up...heck you may be able to help me too; not saying I am the expert, just like to help :)

I've been going to the chiropractor for the last two years and have been deep tissue massages as well. Unfortunately due to the nature of the work I do, I've also developed some very intense lower back pain. It's gotten better with all the chiro, massages and some stretching exercises for the back. It reared it's ugly head in the Winter of 2011/'12 and was more acute than anything else. A couple trips to the Chiropractor plus some massages and it was taken care. Then it came back bad last year and has turned chronic on me now. It got to the point where I went in and had X-Ray's done for my back. Found out that I've got an early degenerative disk in my L1.

So far I've managed to keep it down to a very dull pain most days, some days I don't even feel it and then others it's back with a vengeance. I've found the best way to keep the symptoms under control and fast is either slam some Aleve or four Advil's. I hate having to take pain killers but some days when it's bad I can't even see straight. The days where it's merciless pain is after I've been operating equipment all day the day before. Anything that continually slams me around(i.e. Skid Loader, Back hoes, mini ex) and my lower back takes a beating, I know I'll be regretting it the next day. But what do you do?? It's my job and I just suck it up and start the day with some Aleve or Advils to help. Without going into a long story, suffice to say I've beat myself up over the last 15 years because of work, motorcycling riding(street & dirt) combined with several crashes and weight lifting.

I just take it day by day and realize I'm not 24 anymore. Some days I feel 20, some days I feel 34(my actual age) and some days I feel 54!! HAHA! And some days on those really bad days, I wish I could just retire altogether.

After my X-Ray's I did some serious thinking about getting the site injection for my Sacroiliac and left hip. My hip is what is causing the majority of my back issues as it's tweeked a bit and throws the alignment of everything out. My Chiropractor resets it but it's a neverending process of it popping out a little.

Because of the back issue now. I won't be lifting heavy when I go back to the gym. I'm doing it different this time. Light weights and high reps. No more power lifting. No more lifting for size. Just lifting to help me maintain myself.



Golds Gym isnt quite dead yet, it is franchised so they still have them on the west coat and they have a huge one in Salt Lake City, all of the ones in Colorado went out though because 24hour came in. I can relate to the whole shoulder issue, if you look at my pics i have a huge ass scar on my left shoulder, and i am actually missing a muscle from surgery. Good to hear you are going to get back on it though, its always good to be healthy and have a goal.

You're right Gold's isn't dead. They still have their Briargate branch(the main one) and they just opened up the new South branch on Academy. What happened is back in 2010 they had some serious money issues and weren't paying taxes and rent on their buildings. The North Briargate branch got shut down for a few weeks and they sent everyone from that branch to the old South location(my old location). That's when I quit, because even after work at 3PM I'd show up and it would be packed and I couldn't get in to use jack sh*t for weights and equipment. I talked to the management and asked them when all these people would go back to the North location and wasn't given a definitive answer when it would open back up. So I cancelled my membership.

[Grim2.0]

Interesting....tell your pops to bring it back to Denver! As it is I hear most people are going to Armhurst now because we have no World's or Gold's gyms....many of us want a dedicated gym to lifting instead of the 24 Hour and Bally clubs.

Crazy Pueblo has one and Springs has a Golds...has to be because the Bally and 24Hour franchises took over. Just wish they were ran better....mine always has broken equipment for months till they fix it and place is dirty

Part of the reason i stopped using 24hour, because they have taken over and shut everyone out they have gotten lazy, I go to Lifetime now, great for the kid with their daycare and they have top notch equipment, that and 5 min from my house lol.

[Grim2.0]

Nate needs something to talk about he wont get bashed for :lol:

I am now 2-1/2 weeks from my competition, i have maxed out being lean, at this point i am sitting at 2-3% body fat so it was time to increase the amount of protein and carb intake which is like eating dessert for the first time ever as a kid!!! Everything that tastes good is a carb so being able to eat more is awesome.

Pretty much i am lean to the point where if i did not increase the amount of carb and protein i would burn muscle as there is not fat left, just have to sit and maintain for 2- 1/2 weeks, start drying out (lose water retention), compete, and then eat everything in sight!!

This has been a very very tough 4 months, i cannot say its something i would highly consider doing again, there are ways around this like flexible dieting to achieve these results but i have to do more research on it to see how it works.

as water retention comes and goes i don't control or regulate when my vascularity comes out untill i start taking diuretics but the other day i was a little dry and my arms looked like i had just shot up some speed!!

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[bulldog]

:lol: Like any of those people would actually want to talk about fitness (never seen them on one post on fitness) and taking care of themselves. Big Sur….Generic, post some pics up guys and prove me wrong! The body is only the most important thing, yet my bet is you are all lacking and spending that workout time on forum boards! I was at the CSC BBQ and people can vouch for me!

Anyways, looking good man...I am sure it is getting rough. You hanging in the mentally....I know this is hardest part.

Holy Shit man 2%-3%!!!!! Impressive!

[Generic]

:lol: Like any of those people would actually want to talk about fitness (never seen them on one post on fitness) and taking care of themselves. Big Sur….Generic, post some pics up guys and prove me wrong! The body is only the most important thing, yet my bet is you are all lacking and spending that workout time on forum boards! I was at the CSC BBQ and people can vouch for me!

Anyways, looking good man...I am sure it is getting rough. You hanging in the mentally....I know this is hardest part.

Holy Shit man 2%-3%!!!!! Impressive!

Actually, I'm in the process of trying to get more fit. And you are right I do read online but I'd also like to consult with an expert. I recognize when I don't know more than the experts and take their advice to heart, after all this is what they do and they have the data to back it up.

Grim was one of many reasons I decided to make a much more focused effort. Seeing his progress was pretty inspiring.

Also, why do you keep attacking us personally? Neither Big_Sur or I said anything derogatory against you, it was purely a discussion on the merits of various solutions. Criticism of an idea is not criticism of the person.

[bulldog]

Actually, I'm in the process of trying to get more fit. And you are right I do read online but I'd also like to consult with an expert. I recognize when I don't know more than the experts and take their advice to heart, after all this is what they do and they have the data to back it up.

Grim was one of many reasons I decided to make a much more focused effort. Seeing his progress was pretty inspiring.

Also, why do you keep attacking us personally? Neither Big_Sur or I said anything derogatory against you, it was purely a discussion on the merits of various solutions. Criticism of an idea is not criticism of the person. Because I never asked for a opinion, but you both were fast to give one. How riding motorcycle for 33 years and sportbikes for 17+ doesn't qualify me as a little bit of a expert is beyond me.....

So yeah go read articles about getting bigger man...let me know how that works out :lol:


But ok, you have been cool. so I do apologize and will lay off....

[Grim2.0]

:lol: Like any of those people would actually want to talk about fitness (never seen them on one post on fitness) and taking care of themselves. Big Sur….Generic, post some pics up guys and prove me wrong! The body is only the most important thing, yet my bet is you are all lacking and spending that workout time on forum boards! I was at the CSC BBQ and people can vouch for me!

Anyways, looking good man...I am sure it is getting rough. You hanging in the mentally....I know this is hardest part.

Holy Shit man 2%-3%!!!!! Impressive!

The mental part has been about 76% of the hard part, i am very volatile at times and dont always have the best attitude, delayed reaction and not what i would call normal brain functionality my body is pushing so hard to keep burning while trying to function normally its an insane factory that goes non stop.


Actually, I'm in the process of trying to get more fit. And you are right I do read online but I'd also like to consult with an expert. I recognize when I don't know more than the experts and take their advice to heart, after all this is what they do and they have the data to back it up.

Grim was one of many reasons I decided to make a much more focused effort. Seeing his progress was pretty inspiring.



I am very happy to see that my progress and posting up has made some sort of impact, even if its one person, i mainly wanted to share to inspire, educate, and show that it can be done, while it is hard if you put your mind to it you can do anything you want and its worth getting.

Granted i took my diet ot the next level compared to what most would do as its not exactly ideal the meal plan and amounts in the beginning are actually the best way you could possibly eat for your body, i know when i started i was leaning out but i had tons and tons of energy and felt great!! i plan to go back to that diet once my contest is over so i can maintain my results, gain mass, and be happy!!

Good on ya for doing what you can to be fit and feel good!

[Sully]

I saw Bulldog at the bbq and he's way huge now :bigeyes: .. I'd listen to his advice.. hell, go work out with him, mang!

[mdub]

Yea he is almost as big as me

[bulldog]

I saw Bulldog at the bbq and he's way huge now :bigeyes: .. I'd listen to his advice.. hell, go work out with him, mang! Awe...thanks Sully.....I am on cloud 9 from your comment now :) So hard to judge your own progress you know


And yes I'd help you Generic...no hard feelings

[Sully]

I saw Bulldog at the bbq and he's way huge now :bigeyes: .. I'd listen to his advice.. hell, go work out with him, mang!

:lol: Almost..


Awe...thanks Sully.....I am on cloud 9 from your comment now :) So hard to judge your own progress you know.

:up: Your hard work is definitely paying off. YOU should feel proud of your accomplishments :)

[Ezzzzy1]

Sully and Bulldog sitting in a tree.....

[Sully]

ha ha ha... NO :no:... dude is married c'mon

[Ezzzzy1]

ha ha ha... NO :no:... dude is married c'mon

I am too but I always see you checking me out!



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[Sully]

Ooops you saw that??? :oops:

Its cuz you are "Daddy Fat Stacks :eyebrows:

[bulldog]

:lol: Almost..



:up: Your hard work is definitely paying off. YOU should feel proud of your accomplishments :) It has been a lot of work. Last I calculated (roughly) I have been doing this for 12 years now; at 5 days a week and 1 1/2 hour as session that comes out to 7.5 hours a week; 30hrs a month; and 360hrs a year; for a whopping total of 4320 hours (180 days)...wow...crazy when you think of it that way. I did start as the smallest guy at my gym (about 135lbs) so it is nice to look back and see how much I have changed. Plus kept me out of the bars :lol:


I'll believe EJ is married when I actually see that wife...years of knowing him and never seen her :D

[#1Townie]

This thread...... Is... Yeah....

[bulldog]

This thread...... Is... Yeah.... Careful man....guys at Grim's stage are liable to flip out at any moment...seriously that is how rough it is to be at a 3% body fat.....your brain is mostly water so right now Grim's is probably having some issues...not to mention the loss of carbs which equals energy. All part of the game though! I have buddies that go through this for their shows and we all leave them alone 3 weeks before their comp; made the mistake once and got a pretty angry buff guy telling me to leave him alone because he is training :lol:

It is why I have never been able to do it myself......so hard.

[#1Townie]

hahahaha wasn't talking about grimster... I was talking about the kiss and make up session that had just taken place. lol..


grimmy is cool in my book and he knows this.

[Ezzzzy1]

I'll believe EJ is married when I actually see that wife...years of knowing him and never seen her :D

She works almost 60 hours a week and I work 100! If you want to see her, save up a bunch of money and go spend it at the Buckle Park Meadows.

She would be your best friend! :lol:

[bulldog]

She works almost 60 hours a week and I work 100! If you want to see her, save up a bunch of money and go spend it at the Buckle Park Meadows.

She would be your best friend! :lol: As I told you...one of my favorite clothes stores...have spent thousands there.....Affliction and Lucky Jeans were my favorite for years....till the douchebags ruined Affliction and made it less about MMA that it stared out as.

Well man, you ever down to have the ladies chill with us, let me know....we are always looking for couples to hang with.

[bornwildnfree]

She works almost 60 hours a week and I work 100! If you want to see her, save up a bunch of money and go spend it at the Buckle Park Meadows.

She would be your best friend! :lol:
MMMMM well DICK and I do need new jeans...that's not a bad plan!

[Grim2.0]

2 weeks from my show as of today, just have to get through the next work week then i have a full week off to prepare and spend a lot of time at the gym. This week has been nice because i had to increase my carb intake but the next two weeks are going to be very tight and i will have to fluctuate my diet every day against what my body is doing in order to maintain, water weight will start coming off next week and the mental portion next week is going to be 10X worst that what it has been for the last 2 weeks.

As nate said doing this creates a very very short fuse and makes you very volatile and ornery, fortunately the wife and kid are sleeping by the time i get home from the gym so they have not had to deal with me but as hard as i try the mental portion of this tends to take over, you get angry at nothing and frustrated at everything. I will post up new the middle of next week as that's when i hope to have dropped a lot of water weight and the difference will hopefully be incredible to say at the least.

[~Barn~]

Moral of this story.... If you're gonna have OCD, have a healthy outlet for it!

[Clovis]

No homo but can we get some updated progress pics??

Out of curiosity, I wonder if adderall or a similar stimulant would help ease the carb cravings and irritability.

[Ezzzzy1]

No homo but can we get some updated progress pics??

I say we all vote!

Put me down for a yea vote :bananna: :yay:

[Grim2.0]

Alright folks it's show time for me, got spray tanned last night, pre judging is this morning and final show is tonight. There are a lot of people competing and it's a very large show but the best part about this is I'm not in it to win it nor do I have the mentality that I will place, this was all a challenge and an achievement to get to this level and be able to get up on stage saying I'm one of the few crazy enough to do something this hard.
It's been a long ass 4 months and I can't wait to compete then go eat a shit load of pancakes after the show!!!!
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[birchyboy]

Good luck!

[bulldog]

Good Luck man! I am seriously proud you made it and that is a huge accomplishment in itself. Maybe one day I'll have the discipline to do it too.

[#1Townie]

Congrats bro. Words could never describe the level of discipline you have reached. Good shit man.

[bulldog]

In support of Grim, I am going to wear this today so I have those killer abs too :lol:

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[~Barn~]

Well done. :up:

[Sully]

Good luck!

[madvlad]

Nice man, that's commitment

[Grim2.0]

Competition is over, I did not place however I am not surprised nor did I have high expectations of placing, the competition was ver fierce and in high quantity (32 competitors in my class) the top 15 were definetly juicing which makes it very hard for a handful of us that didn't take steroids to compare when they are able to lean out much harder and get there body very dry and looking good. Either way it was a blast to be up on stage well worth the 4 months of training and I am very happy I stuck to it and was able to learn so much.

This picture is me posing with the last group called by the judges to compare, basically we are the lower placing people so while I was in the bottom bracket it's obvious I am definetly the better looking of the group. Not placing dead last is good enough for me!

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My train or got much better pics of me I should have in to few days, for the finals they had us walk down a catwalk and pose in front of the crowd we could do whatever we wanted and a lot of guys were just walking off but I wanted to have some fun as it was my time and I worked to get there so I did a full on body building pose which got everyone all excited and laughing so it was a good time.

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so if anyone is wondering, yes I will be doing this again!! However the next show is going to be dedicated towards not just looking good and being able to go on stage but to be the best and try to win the show, I will have a better chance as the show I will compete In Next is a year away giving me time to get bigger, and prep more. This particular show is a natural show which means steroids are NOT ALLOWED they do drug testing and polygraph testing to ensure all competitors have not taken any steroids in the last 2 years. While I am very educated on steroids and their benefit to this sport it's not something I want to get into as I need to keep my job and my wife :lol:.

Thanks for everyone's comments and good lucks, if any of you have questions or want advice I am more than willing to help and answer them, I have learned a ton in this process things most wouldn't even think of as far as diet and conditioning, you can lean out, lose fat and look good without being miserable and having a healthy appetite. It's only miserable when you push it to the limit and drop your body fat down to less than 4% as I did for the show.

[Grim2.0]

may end up doing another show sooner than i thought....

[Tiutis]

Looking good! Good job!