Hey Clovis, I'm selling my Ducati

[Bashed]

The wifey said she saw you yesterday, in a cast.:shocked:
Told her you snapped your bike in Half???
What the hell happened?
You in the market for a slightly used 2012 Multistrada?
Only been to Pasadena for church on Sundays.
Never been down, wheelied, or run out to the limiter.
Only been thru 8-9 sets of touring tires, ridden by a slow old man.
Inquiring minds want to know.

[Grim2.0]

He low,sided and when it corrected the bike threw his ass off and down a cliff, broke his ankle, collar bone, and shoulder.

[#1Townie]

holy fucking hell! heal up Clovis!

[j0ker]

Owch!!! Hope you get better and heal 100%.

[Dasaxman6]

holy fucking hell! heal up Clovis!
^^^damn dude heal fast!!

[Aaron]

I'm glad he's more or less ok, don't want this to happen to anyone.

But we all knew it was coming. Wouldn't have happened had he been on the track. Tell me again how Black Hills is the cheapest track day money can buy?

[Clovis]

Hey Mike,

Maybe, all though I'm really look at the new 1290 Super Duke GT to replace it. Right now though I'm deciding if I'm going to continue to ride in the canyons. Not really interested in track riding, may pick up a KTM 690 Enduro R and ride trails. My little girl needs her dad around and this one could have easily killed me.

I've been meaning to post about this forever.

I lost the rear end on the center paint line. It had just recently been painted and was super slick. One of the firefighters slipped on it while carrying me to the helicopter and nearly dropped me, LOL.

Got the whole thing on video though.

[Okrapp]

Damn. Glad you made it through with a pulse. We humans are fragile things, more so on two wheels with sporting mindset.

[dirkterrell]

I lost the rear end on the center paint line. It had just recently been painted and was super slick. One of the firefighters slipped on it while carrying me to the helicopter and nearly dropped me, LOL.


You know, I know if we can haul humans to the Moon and back, we ought to be able to come up with road paint that can have a little more friction to it. Maybe it's something we ought to get the AMA to work on.

[Ezzzzy1]

You know, I know if we can haul humans to the Moon and back, we ought to be able to come up with road paint that can have a little more friction to it. Maybe it's something we ought to get the AMA to work on.

And lets take a look at the tar stripes as well...

[Ezzzzy1]

Sorry to hear about the get off Justin!

[Aaron]

You know, I know if we can haul humans to the Moon and back, we ought to be able to come up with road paint that can have a little more friction to it. Maybe it's something we ought to get the AMA to work on.

Yes, it's the Government's fault he rode past his skill level, again.

[dirkterrell]

Yes, it's the Government's fault he rode past his skill level, again.

I wasn't referring to his specific accident, but the well-known fact that road paint (and tar snakes) are very slippery, especially when they're wet. You can't always avoid them either (e.g. crosswalks). It seems reasonable, you know, in the interest of safety that officers like yourself are always touting, that we ought to explore ways of increasing the friction of said materials. It would benefit motorcyclists, bicyclists and pedestrians greatly.

[Okrapp]

I've seen mention of, but can't find specification for, FIM approved paints for track curbing and grid markings. Maybe a rider makes a bad decision on corner entry speed or direction - yeah that's on the pilot. Wouldn't look to blame any govt. But sometimes other nonsense in the road, for whatever reason, could cause need to cross some line drawn in paint or tar. Maybe even just the dashed lines separating multi-lane roads could cause a slip. This sort of thing wouldn't eliminate a rider at the limit going down - we've all seen top level racers go down when tracking into the painted area of an apex or, even the painted corner exit curbing. But if the balance of cost to an agency or state is similar or preferably less to use a different compound, especially when factoring EMS and whatever other costs involved, maybe it's worth looking at the stuff we draw lines on the road with. :dunno:

[blaircsf]

If you go here: http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/ and put in keyword paint it will take you to http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/58107/no_cache/1/ which has the list of currently approved paints and test results of the new one they approved.

[dirkterrell]

If you go here: http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/ and put in keyword paint it will take you to http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/58107/no_cache/1/ which has the list of currently approved paints and test results of the new one they approved.

I'm not familiar with the SRT units, but with 77 being dry asphalt, that paint's value is 74, which strikes me a pretty good. I'd like to see numbers on the stuff that is used on the street. This stuff may not have the right properties for the street (e.g. durability), but it seems to me that if street appilcations not being researched, it would be worthwhile to do so.

[#1Townie]

You know, I know if we can haul humans to the Moon and back, we ought to be able to come up with road paint that can have a little more friction to it. Maybe it's something we ought to get the AMA to work on.

http://www.bobvila.com/articles/quick-tip-mix-sand-with-paint-for-non-slip-surfaces/

its already been figured out. its just a matter of using it.

[dirkterrell]

http://www.bobvila.com/articles/quick-tip-mix-sand-with-paint-for-non-slip-surfaces/

its already been figured out. its just a matter of using it.

Well, that would have been my first approach, but there could be issues with it that I'm not familiar with (e.g. application issues, durability)

[blaircsf]

I'm not familiar with the SRT units, but with 77 being dry asphalt, that paint's value is 74, which strikes me a pretty good. I'd like to see numbers on the stuff that is used on the street. This stuff may not have the right properties for the street (e.g. durability), but it seems to me that if street appilcations not being researched, it would be worthwhile to do so.

The one they tested in that document is meant to be removed with a power washer as well. I imagine you can find the test results for the other approved paints. I expect you could find a happy medium somewhere that might not be FIM approved, but would be better than what's currently used.

[#1Townie]

Well, that would have been my first approach, but there could be issues with it that I'm not familiar with (e.g. application issues, durability)

we used it forever and a day ago at our bmx track. it helped give traction for riders with clipless pedals. it held up to steal scratching against it all the time.

think it's just too expensive. I imagine they find the cheapest thing as possible to paint those lines.

[dirkterrell]

think it's just too expensive. I imagine they find the cheapest thing as possible to paint those lines.

That'd be my guess too.

[Bashed]

He low,sided and when it corrected the bike threw his ass off and down a cliff, broke his ankle, collar bone, and shoulder.


I'm glad he's more or less ok, don't want this to happen to anyone.

But we all knew it was coming.


Hey Mike,

Maybe, all though I'm really look at the new 1290 Super Duke GT to replace it. Right now though I'm deciding if I'm going to continue to ride in the canyons. Not really interested in track riding, may pick up a KTM 690 Enduro R and ride trails. My little girl needs her dad around and this one could have easily killed me.

I've been meaning to post about this forever.

I lost the rear end on the center paint line. It had just recently been painted and was super slick. One of the firefighters slipped on it while carrying me to the helicopter and nearly dropped me, LOL.

Got the whole thing on video though.

A couple thoughts on this.
First, it's great you're still with us, and your family still has their dad. Hope you heal up quickly.
Stuff happens, more so if pushing the matter like we all have done.
I have ridden fast for years, over 40, and have wrecked once, and have been taken out a couple times by others, so I can comment as I understand how the risks versus rewards scenarios happen, but.....
Like double A ron stated, anyone who has rode with you in the last few years knew this was going to happen to you sooner or later.
The poor choices you were making riding was a recipe for disaster.
Passing on the right, passing on blind corners, passing everything was incredibly dangerous.
Splitting cars where they are so freaked out they both go into the shoulder, and speeding everywhere has finally caught up to you.
You got off relatively lucky, as it could've been fatal, and not only for you, but others as well who you put in danger.
Please do everyone, yourself, and your family a huge favor, and never buy another bike, ever!
If you think I'm being to harsh, good. It really needs to be said, and perhaps it will open your eyes and others to what happens when a person rides like you have.
There is a time and place to go fast. Anyone can go fast. The trick is to know when to go slow, and have the maturity and self control to do just that.
Please post up the video, I'm sure it will reveal exactly why you wrecked.

[#1Townie]

easy bashed. eaaaaaaasy. time and place my man. time and place.

[Grim2.0]

No fucking way man, bashed hit that nail right on the head! I've ridden a plenty with Justin and his riding is reckless as fuck. He as always ridden as if he had nothing to live for and there was no fear at all. I think the kid thing will help but he does need to do some thinking, how many bikes has he wrecked in the last 3 years?

could not have said it better myself.

[j0ker]

Nothing like kicking the man when hes down Bashed. I agree with #1Townie, which worries me. I just saying there is a right time and place for everything.

[The Black Knight]

I agree with #1Townie, which worries me.

Again, I blame the weed....

[Bueller]

A couple thoughts on this..
+1

One time up GG was enough for me to know never to ride with him again.
Quit riding for a while or go to the track.

[BikesRider777]

Let’s go easy on Clovis, especially now – crashing in general, and crashing the way he did (I’ve seen the video), could happen to any of us at anytime if we’re honest. Did he put himself at additional risk by way of his riding style? Maybe, but here are a few counter points to consider as well…in the name of defending Clovis from this onslaught.

Has he wrecked a few times? Yeh, sure. But he rides more miles than most of you combined probably. So I’ll bet his average number of wrecks per mile is in line with everyone else on this forums. Plus to my knowledge he hasn’t been really hurt in any of the prior wrecks, at least not seriously.

He always wears his leathers and full gear, and he’s a very talented rider. And he loves riding.

I’ve ridden with people who say I’m too aggressive if I occasionally go 20mph over the speed limit. It’s all relative. What may be riding on the edge for one person may be a spirited pace for another. When you’ve racked up the kind of miles Clovis has (in just a few years, not spread out over 20 years of riding), who’s to say he doesn’t have a better “sixth sense” than those with lesser miles?

Putting other people in danger? It’s not like he’s racing a 1 ton truck through the middle of suburbia. And for one thing I can tell you I’d feel a lot safer with Clovis riding by me on a blind corner than one of the many cars filled with young girls texting I see out there on the roads.

Lastly, I get lectured on my “maturity” for just riding motorcycles on the street to begin with fairly frequently, by family or friends that don’t ride. And I don’t know about you all, but I didn’t buy a motorcycle to ride slowly. I ride slowly when I have to, either because I’ll get in trouble with the law or because I’m in an area where the risk of hitting someone else or something else is too great for me. But my sportbike isn’t very comfortable when riding slowly, yet I didn’t buy a cruiser. Am I mature? Sure, sometimes. I’m also mature enough to know when to let go of worrying about being mature.

Counter points to consider, and standing up for Clovis – whether he agrees with your assessments of his riding or not. That’s my point.

[HOTCARCASS]

I was with him that day. He definitely was riding within his ability. in fact I saw his years of riding experience try to pull the initial slide back under control by staying in the throttle (not chopping), re-seating himself and looking down the road, he didn't panic. I thought he had it. The bikes longer travel and heavier weight contributed, in my opinion. I've ridden with him lots over the years and watched his skills progress. We did a Grand Junction trip this year and had a blast! I've never cared for his choice of bikes but he knows that. However Ice cold Gatorade has come out of his Multi more than once, in the hot blazing sun. I was not knocking the Mother ship then. Certainly now he has a little time to reflect on the incident and adjust his approach the way so many of us have. Most of the avid riders out there have had close calls that could have been disastrous. I said to Ricky Orlando one day when he was teaching me some things, "It's not a matter of if but when you're going to crash". He strongly disagreed. since then I have ridden with a firm belief that crashing is in my hands and I have to stay in-tuned to all the pieces that play a role in my success. I've crashed since adopting that philosophy and realized I had not taken fully into consideration some things that define street vs. track. Some examples are: The pavement is never as clean on the street, The temperature of the pavement is totally inconsistent from one turn to the next on street, street tires don't perform like race tires and inconsistencies in condition are overwhelming to street tires in a lot of cases. No matter what the circumstances are when I've crashed one thing has always been consistent in every case, the fun factor dial was pinned at 10. (10 being the most fun). So I now when my fun dial hits 10 to dial it back, check out the scenery and just enjoy the machine. The #1 reason I like riding with Justin and look forward to his return, he is passionate about the sport and his fun dial is usually pinned at 10. I'm glad he's with us and glad I was there to call for help and get his broken pieces put on that chopper.

[Ezzzzy1]

No fucking way man, bashed hit that nail right on the head! I've ridden a plenty with Justin and his riding is reckless as fuck. He as always ridden as if he had nothing to live for and there was no fear at all. I think the kid thing will help but he does need to do some thinking, how many bikes has he wrecked in the last 3 years?

could not have said it better myself.

Here I was thinking you were being sarcastic... Nope, just a prick.

Your ass had 1.5 weeks to call him out on your own if you wanted to.

As far as Bashed goes. If your whole point in starting this thread was to smear someone you accomplished your goal. I dont minds so much what you said but the fact that you started the thread to let the cat out of the bag and then jump his ass when he (and others) reply is horse shit.

[#1Townie]

Again, I blame the weed....

did someone say drugs?

[Grim2.0]

Here I was thinking you were being sarcastic... Nope, just a prick.

Your ass had 1.5 weeks to call him out on your own if you wanted to.

As far as Bashed goes. If your whole point in starting this thread was to smear someone you accomplished your goal. I dont minds so much what you said but the fact that you started the thread to let the cat out of the bag and then jump his ass when he (and others) reply is horse shit.


Right because you have ridden with him how many times and know him so well right? Did you think Aaron was being sarcastic? No it was me so you got all giddy and sought the opportunity to start some shit with me, good to see you're the same immature clown as before. Since you must me captain know it all, I already called him out via text as soon as I heard it happened which was the day it happened, because I know him, this was a reiteration to what was already said to him. Bashed has known him longer than I have but since you are captain morals and ethics trying to be the white knight to someone you don't know, I'm sure you already knew that.

Maybe stay out of a thread you know nothing about and go play in the threads were your input actually means something, you have no dog in this fight.

[#1Townie]

oh mang. going back to my hole.

[bulldog]

Wow, hasn’t anyone ever heard of “tough love”. Some may just want to bash on Clovis, but others obviously care enough to say he needed to chill out and this wreck should be a wakeup call. I think we tend to forget we don’t get many chances on a sportbike, sometimes only one, so when others call someone out, it actually could be to try to help them.

There was a young girl back on here named “thatgirlsidney” (or something like that). For a while I watched her post and get into a bike that was too powerful for her too soon and it made me cringe. Finally one day I bashed her on a thread (it really was tough love even though she was a stranger….Purplefeet’s death has never left me) and surprisingly she PM’d me and we had a great talk and I hope I helped her to see she had plenty of time to get a faster bike and for now to work on her skills and just enjoy rising. Last I heard she did get the 1000cc and wrecked it and hurt herself pretty bad. So anyways this could just be a way to give Clovis a warning sign he may thank us for one day. I’ve never met him or rode with him, so have no idea, but for me the older I got the more that “it’s not worth” it came to mind when taking risks on a sportbike.

I see Clovis did post and sounds to me he did learn he may need to tone it down….at least for his daughters sake. Everyone makes mistakes, but the ones that learn from them are the ones that get better :up:

[JKOL]

Glad Clovis is ok. I have ridden sun up to sun down with Clovis countless times, I have ridden south to summit Pikes Peak and back north to hit hwy 7 in the same day, I did 1000 miles in 2 days with Clovis seeing just about everything CO has to offer south of I-70. I have nothing but great memories of my rides with Clovis.

I am not here to pile on or defend his riding, chances are if you have been on 2 wheels you are guilty of exceeding your limits, riding recklessly, breaking countless laws, etc....I don't care if he wears full gear, is a talented rider, has a better miles ridden/wrecks ratio, luck is the only thing keeping him alive at this point. He has low sided alone, he has low sided with his wife 2 up, he has now high sided and required a helicopter ride, how easily could any of those been fatal? Fact is every crash could easily have been his last, luck made all the difference between a low side ending in some scraped leather and bruises vs a low side into oncoming traffic. How many close calls does it take?

[Ezzzzy1]

Right because you have ridden with him how many times and know him so well right? Did you think Aaron was being sarcastic? No it was me so you got all giddy and sought the opportunity to start some shit with me, good to see you're the same immature clown as before. Since you must me captain know it all, I already called him out via text as soon as I heard it happened which was the day it happened, because I know him, this was a reiteration to what was already said to him. Bashed has known him longer than I have but since you are captain morals and ethics trying to be the white knight to someone you don't know, I'm sure you already knew that.

Maybe stay out of a thread you know nothing about and go play in the threads were your input actually means something, you have no dog in this fight.


Youre assuming a lot. I know Clovis better than you think.

All this coming from a guy that doesnt even have a sportbike, on a sportbike forum :roll:

Im sorry that you dont like my opinion that you should have just kept your mouth shut instead of publicly piling on top of someone in this community. I mean, if your ass has ridden soooo many times with him and hes reckless as fuck, how smart does that make you?

[Grim2.0]

Youre assuming a lot. I know Clovis better than you think.

All this coming from a guy that doesnt even have a sportbike, on a sportbike forum :roll:

Im sorry that you dont like my opinion that you should have just kept your mouth shut instead of publicly piling on top of someone in this community. I mean, if your ass has ridden soooo many times with him and hes reckless as fuck, how smart does that make you?


The fact that you have to pull the "he doesn't have a sport bike" card pretty much nulls anything you just said, couldn't bring myself to read the rest of it because at the end of the day I could give two $hits what you think or say. Carry on smartly.

[j0ker]

I have never met or ridden with you, but whatever these guys are saying, know this; I hope you heal up fast, I hope you get on another bike again and I hope you continue to enjoy your life. That is what this is all about, enjoying the ride. SO many haters on here.

[bulldog]

I have never met or ridden with you, but whatever these guys are saying, know this; I hope you heal up fast, I hope you get on another bike again and I hope you continue to enjoy your life. That is what this is all about, enjoying the ride. SO many haters on here. Yeah but sounds better when you call it "tough love". :dunno: :lol:

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_800_800/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAcKAAAAJDU3N2FmMmM1LWU2NmQtNGIwMi05Y2 Y5LWU3ZTcyZWRiODgxNQ.jpg

Seriously though, I have had friends pissed off at me because I do not give them the answer they want to hear, but I’d rather help someone out rather than just say what they want to hear so they like me. In the end they will thank you for it, so sometimes saying something to someone is hard, but it shows you care. Now I have never rode with Clovis, but honestly I have experienced many over the years that rode over their heads on the streets and it usually ended up bad…..so why not say something before that happens and they can judge if thy want to take the advice of people who have rode longer. I know I would not be the rider I am today if I didn’t take advice from people that rode better than me.

[Ezzzzy1]

The fact that you have to pull the "he doesn't have a sport bike" card pretty much nulls anything you just said, couldn't bring myself to read the rest of it because at the end of the day I could give two $hits what you think or say. Carry on smartly.

Really? You say "Maybe stay out of a thread you know nothing about and go play in the threads were your input actually means something, you have no dog in this fight." and then dont like it when its literally pointed out that youre the outsider. Interesting.

[Grim2.0]

Really? You say "Maybe stay out of a thread you know nothing about and go play in the threads were your input actually means something, you have no dog in this fight." and then dont like it when its literally pointed out that youre the outsider. Interesting.


:lol: might be your most pathetic response yet, keep em coming Mr. White knight this is gold.

[Ezzzzy1]

:lol: might be your most pathetic response yet, keep em coming Mr. White knight this is gold.

Im ready for Grim 3.0. "The backstabbing bitch"

I will text you what I think, then I will publicly shame you.

[Grim2.0]

Im ready for Grim 3.0. "The backstabbing bitch"

I will text you what I think, then I will publicly shame you.


Promises promises

You have officially stopped to a new low by "threatening" good to see you moving up in the world.

[Ezzzzy1]

Promises promises

You have officially stopped to a new low by "threatening" good to see you moving up in the world.

No, thats your new motto "I will text you what I think, then I will publicly shame you."

Thats what you did to Justin. You totally stabbed your "friend" in the back.

[Grim2.0]

No, thats your new motto "I will text you what I think, then I will publicly shame you."

Thats what you did to Justin.


Yup sure is captain ethics, do tell what else is on your mind? How do you really feel? Other than your complete love and addiction For me.

[longrider]

Where are the moderators when you need them? This thread needs to die a quick death :(

[j0ker]

Where are the moderators when you need them? This thread needs to die a quick death :(
It got ugly fast...as it often does in here.

[#1Townie]

:hibye:

[Grim2.0]

It got ugly fast...as it often does in here.


No no, this was a thread full of people expressing there feelings and Captain morals had to jump in to point the fact that he thinks I stabbed someone in the back, when really it's just a cry out loud that he's in love with me he's just to scared to admit it.

Otherwise his precious little opinion wouldn't have been aimed at me directly, cause clearly as you see in the rest of the thread I'm the only one who said what needed to be said.....clearly.

[#1Townie]

No no, this was a thread full of people expressing there feelings and Captain morals had to jump in to point the fact that he thinks I stabbed someone in the back, when really it's just a cry out loud that he's in love with me he's just to scared to admit it.

Otherwise his precious little opinion wouldn't have been aimed at me directly, cause clearly as you see in the rest of the thread I'm the only one who said what needed to be said.....clearly.

bruh you don't even ride a sport bike. what would you know?

[Grim2.0]

bruh you don't even ride a sport bike. what would you know?


I know true love when I see it, Ej is like the little girl who pushes a boy cause she likes him but doesn't know how to adequately express herself.

or maybe he's like Mark Whahlberg in "Fear" :lol:

[j0ker]

bruh you don't even ride a sport bike. what would you know?

Y'all should seriously get a bike and or a gun to be on here. Haha.

[longrider]

It got ugly fast...as it often does in here.

I know very well how it gets in here, I was just wondering where all the new moderators were

[longrider]

Y'all should seriously get a bike and or a gun to be on here. Haha.

I have a bike and a gun so I guess I can stay... :)

[mdub]

bruh you don't even ride a sport bike. what would you know?



Oh NO YOU DIDNT...?!!?!

[mdub]

I know very well how it gets in here, I was just wondering where all the new moderators were

they are around a campfire singing Rocky Mountain high. Let the the two keyboard ninjas continue with their entertaining bickery towards one another. It's given the forum a lil spark.

[Nolan]

^yeah. If this is going to be the last entertaining thing this forum does it might as well be a dick measuring contest.

[#1Townie]

Y'all should seriously get a bike and or a gun to be on here. Haha.

guns are bad. Obama said so.

HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY!

[Ezzzzy1]

So let me get this right. You can call someone out on their riding but you cant call someone out on being shady?

Why was this thread started in the first place? If one looks back it almost looks like it was to flame Clovis. Like there was no talk of it on here so someone needed to bring it up. Kinda horse shit in my opinion.

Either way, im off to jerk off to pictures of Seans ugly ass. Cant seem to get over him for some reason... Maybe one day. Sigh...







ADMINS!





ADMINS! QUICK SOMEONE IS HAVING AN ARGUMENT IN ONE OF THE THREADS!!

[Grim2.0]

So let me get this right. You can call someone out on their riding but you cant call someone out on being shady?

Why was this thread started in the first place? If one looks back it almost looks like it was to flame Clovis. Like there was no talk of it on here so someone needed to bring it up. Kinda horse shit in my opinion.

Either way, im off to jerk off to pictures of Seans ugly ass. Cant seem to get over him for some reason... Maybe one day. Sigh...







ADMINS!





ADMINS! QUICK SOMEONE IS HAVING AN ARGUMENT IN ONE OF THE THREADS!!

Yea what you have failed to realize is that your opinion means precisely dick, why do you care about the motive of the thread anyways? OHHHH right cause your the "White Knight" or Captain "Call Out" :lol: If you didn't like it you could have stayed away, but you didn't because, well......

Either Justin has his fist up your ass or you just like to create drama when this could have merely been an eye opening informative thread but hey ive always seen you as the keyboard warrior (and im not alone here) so why would that change?

keep on keeping on buddy, glad you could sarcastically admit you have a hard on for me.

[Gramps]

I know very well how it gets in here, I was just wondering where all the new moderators were


We are here. I haven't seen anything crazy up to this point just some posturing from different sides of the isle and two guys who need some hugs.


they are around a campfire singing Rocky Mountain high. Let the the two keyboard ninjas continue with their entertaining bickery towards one another. It's given the forum a lil spark.


8)



^yeah. If this is going to be the last entertaining thing this forum does it might as well be a dick measuring contest.

Probably wouldn't need much of a tape measure. :dunno:

[#1Townie]

and if I had been one if the ones in question?

[Gramps]

and if I had been one if the ones in question?

I don't understand the question or how it's relevant. You weren't involved here were you? I saw you made a couple of comments but they didn't seem to be instigating any drama. If you meant them to be then I missed it.

[Grim2.0]

I don't understand the question or how it's relevant. You weren't involved here were you? I saw you made a couple of comments but they didn't seem to be instigating any drama. If you meant them to be then I missed it.


i think his point was if he had been the one engaged it would have been locked down, he has history :lol:

[bulldog]

I am just the outsider looking in as I have never rode with Clovis, but all I can say is if three people, Aaron, Bash, and Grim (I know of two others I will not mention that told me they would not ride with him anymore either) post that he rides crazy, then there has to be some truth to it. So saying that I still do not get what is so bad about making a person aware that others do not appreciate their crazy riding style. Again why not tell a person as maybe they do not realize. If nobody cared about the guy then nobody would have said anything and to me that is worse. One mistake is all it takes and people need to realize this is no game!

Heck I was on a group ride once and passed Chadwick on the right. Later I noticed he was upset at me and I asked him what was up and he told me straight up he didn't appreciate how I passed on the right because he had a passenger that it really freaked out (I forgot how loud my bike was as I rode with earplugs). So it could have gone two ways and I could have told him to deal with it and only cared about myself, but it really did make me think how even though I thought I was in control, the person you pass or ride with can be affected. Him telling me this that day changed how I rode and I am thankful he did tell me that because I did learn to respect others. Now if someone wants to do this away from a group ride, then so be it, but when you ride in a club group ride there are rules and you break them you are out. This didn't happen on accident, but we got sick of having a group ride and it being ruined by a ambulance trip to the ER; seen it happen more than once from crazy street riding.


I don't have a bike either right now so what do I know though....just 15+ years riding sportbikes since I was 18 :dunno:

[j0ker]

I am just the outsider looking in as I have never rode with Clovis, but all I can say is if three people, Aaron, Bash, and Grim (I know of two others I will not mention that told me they would not ride with him anymore either) post that he rides crazy, then there has to be some truth to it. So saying that I still do not get what is so bad about making a person aware that others do not appreciate their crazy riding style. Again why not tell a person as maybe they do not realize. If nobody cared about the guy then nobody would have said anything and to me that is worse. One mistake is all it takes and people need to realize this is no game!

Heck I was on a group ride once and passed Chadwick on the right. Later I noticed he was upset at me and I asked him what was up and he told me straight up he didn't appreciate how I passed on the right because he had a passenger that it really freaked out (I forgot how loud my bike was as I rode with earplugs). So it could have gone two ways and I could have told him to deal with it and only cared about myself, but it really did make me think how even though I thought I was in control, the person you pass or ride with can be affected. Him telling me this that day changed how I rode and I am thankful he did tell me that because I did learn to respect others. Now if someone wants to do this away from a group ride, then so be it, but when you ride in a club group ride there are rules and you break them you are out. This didn't happen on accident, but we got sick of having a group ride and it being ruined by a ambulance trip to the ER; seen it happen more than once from crazy street riding.


I don't have a bike either right now so what do I know though....just 15+ years riding sportbikes since I was 18 :dunno:

Having a bike isn't as important as owning a gun on here. So really, as long as you are packing....

[bulldog]

Having a bike isn't as important as owning a gun on here. So really, as long as you are packing.... Good thing I own a Glock 9mm....I am good :lol:

To me it is like telling John Elway that he has no business coaching since he isn't currently playing football...the knowledge is still there :dunno:

[#1Townie]

I don't understand the question or how it's relevant. You weren't involved here were you? I saw you made a couple of comments but they didn't seem to be instigating any drama. If you meant them to be then I missed it.

referring to past events.

[#1Townie]

Good thing I own a Glock 9mm....I am good :lol:

To me it is like telling John Elway that he has no business coaching since he isn't currently playing football...the knowledge is still there :dunno:

you own a Glock? now i hate you. GUNS ARE BAD! OBAMA SAYS!!!

[Jmetz]

I would've banned you townie. Ej and Sean if you guys are going to continue take it to PM please.

[Captain Obvious]

Jesus, its still summer. You girls are going to be really fun to watch come winter time.

[#1Townie]

I would've banned you townie. Ej and Sean if you guys are going to continue take it to PM please.

you love me too much to ban me.

[Grim2.0]

I would've banned you townie. Ej and Sean if you guys are going to continue take it to PM please.

dont tell me what to do, he started it, besides messenger wouldn't ethical cause then nobody can see how much of a hero and good guy he is.



looovveeee yyyyooouuu

[salsashark]

OK... but what about this Duc, Bashed?

Once I get the house thing finalized, I may be looking.

[Bashed]

Go back and read my first few sentences, and think first before throwing me under the bus. My only real concern is his and other persons well being, nothing more, nothing less.
I would be the first to accept someone calling me out if I was riding way over my head or as reckless as Clovis has been the last few years IMO.
I guess I'm old school and can take some criticism if warranted. All this coddling isn't going to help the guy change his behavior, it's like giving someone timeout in their room full of video games. Soooooo, either get onboard with responsible riding, or get out. like I said, there is a time and a place to speed, slicing up other road users and scaring the hell out of other people isn't it. Slicing up Black Canyon, McClure Pass, etc with little to nobody around, or stunting in a open parking lot is the way to go.
After it is all said and done, looking back I want to be able to survive to an old age while having some good stories to tell the younger generation.
Clovis feel free to PM me anytime if you want, or not.

My bike is a white 2012 Ducati Multistrada Touring S if interested Salsashark.
I can send pictures when you get serious.

[BikesRider777]

Well I think it's fair to say we've beaten the dead horse...I think I have a solution to this whole disagreement.

First let me make sure I understand the sides - side 1 says Clovis rode like a nut a lot of the time and needs to chill the fk out, some even went so far as to tell him not to ever get another bike.

Side 2 said chill out side 1, there is a time and a place and right after someone wrecks and is laying in a bed is not the time to bring up their riding style and it's relation to the wreck.

Side 1 retorted with pointing out sometimes you need to say something to someone in order to prevent them from getting really hurt or dying, and that they weren't trying to be dicks they were just speaking truth.

Then there were 2 other sides, or 2 other people really, who went at each other like it was a fifth grade playground insult contest. I won't try to explain their points, cause it's unrelated to my next point and I'm not sure I got their points anyway.

Anyway my point is, it sounds like the only way to really solve this whole thing is get out and ride our fucking bikes together.

I'm not usually a group ride kind of guy, cause I think they're generally more dangerous, which is hypocritical seeing as I was one of the ones defending some of Clovis's riding moves.

So why don't we all, everyone on this post and anyone else who cares or who knew Clovis, come out and let's ride together - we can call it a "Ride for Clovis" day or something stupid like that. We can let those who wanted to call out Clovis to ride safer, set the pace on the way out and let all the nutters realize it's not a bad way to ride. Then on the way back we can let some of the nutters lead, and see which of the conservative, ride responsibly folk get the bug and keep up, and see which ones bail out to live another day. Hows that sound?

And we could let Grim and Ezzy hug it out at lunch, or punch it out in a safe environment, whichever they feel like doing after getting the stress out via a fun ride with friends.

This weekend sucks, too much rain. It's out. Next weekend is too soon possibly with Sturgis, plus we want to give everyone time to tell their wives their going riding for most of a Saturday or Sunday. So how about August 20th, a saturday? We'll all get together somewhere central, and go for a nice ride. Since everyone on this post is so opinionated about how others should ride (hey I'm talking about me too!), hopefully we're all decent enough riders to make it a good group of guys..and girls, hopefully their are some good girl riders who wanna join. Not too big of a group, just the ones who've been riding for a long time and basically the ones who knew Clovis.

We could get a group pic at the end and send it to Clovis, might help him heal a bit faster knowing he has so many people this interested in his well being!

Who's in?

Route TBD, but I'm thinking something central and flowy. We'll ride out somewhere, grab a bite, and ride back. Starting point will be somewhere awesome, away from where all the other groups always meet up to ride. like I said, TBD. Just wanna see who's in first?

We'll call it the "Ride The Pace For Clovis" ride or, I'm open to ideas or whatever.



Last but not least, I heard someone call out someone for riding a cruiser in this thread? Hopefully nobody will bring a cruiser to this ride - but with that said, since this is about Clovis, anyone who knew or rode with him will know that while he wasn't on a cruiser he wasn't always on what you'd call a "sport bike." Shit, when I first met him I think he was rocking an FJR and basically was getting his knee down on the sweepers. I liked that nutter right away.

P

[#1Townie]

Well I think it's fair to say we've beaten the dead horse...I think I have a solution to this whole disagreement.

First let me make sure I understand the sides - side 1 says Clovis rode like a nut a lot of the time and needs to chill the fk out, some even went so far as to tell him not to ever get another bike.

Side 2 said chill out side 1, there is a time and a place and right after someone wrecks and is laying in a bed is not the time to bring up their riding style and it's relation to the wreck.

Side 1 retorted with pointing out sometimes you need to say something to someone in order to prevent them from getting really hurt or dying, and that they weren't trying to be dicks they were just speaking truth.

Then there were 2 other sides, or 2 other people really, who went at each other like it was a fifth grade playground insult contest. I won't try to explain their points, cause it's unrelated to my next point and I'm not sure I got their points anyway.

Anyway my point is, it sounds like the only way to really solve this whole thing is get out and ride our fucking bikes together.

I'm not usually a group ride kind of guy, cause I think they're generally more dangerous, which is hypocritical seeing as I was one of the ones defending some of Clovis's riding moves.

So why don't we all, everyone on this post and anyone else who cares or who knew Clovis, come out and let's ride together - we can call it a "Ride for Clovis" day or something stupid like that. We can let those who wanted to call out Clovis to ride safer, set the pace on the way out and let all the nutters realize it's not a bad way to ride. Then on the way back we can let some of the nutters lead, and see which of the conservative, ride responsibly folk get the bug and keep up, and see which ones bail out to live another day. Hows that sound?

And we could let Grim and Ezzy hug it out at lunch, or punch it out in a safe environment, whichever they feel like doing after getting the stress out via a fun ride with friends.

This weekend sucks, too much rain. It's out. Next weekend is too soon possibly with Sturgis, plus we want to give everyone time to tell their wives their going riding for most of a Saturday or Sunday. So how about August 20th, a saturday? We'll all get together somewhere central, and go for a nice ride. Since everyone on this post is so opinionated about how others should ride (hey I'm talking about me too!), hopefully we're all decent enough riders to make it a good group of guys..and girls, hopefully their are some good girl riders who wanna join. Not too big of a group, just the ones who've been riding for a long time and basically the ones who knew Clovis.

We could get a group pic at the end and send it to Clovis, might help him heal a bit faster knowing he has so many people this interested in his well being!

Who's in?

Route TBD, but I'm thinking something central and flowy. We'll ride out somewhere, grab a bite, and ride back. Starting point will be somewhere awesome, away from where all the other groups always meet up to ride. like I said, TBD. Just wanna see who's in first?

We'll call it the "Ride The Pace For Clovis" ride or, I'm open to ideas or whatever.



Last but not least, I heard someone call out someone for riding a cruiser in this thread? Hopefully nobody will bring a cruiser to this ride - but with that said, since this is about Clovis, anyone who knew or rode with him will know that while he wasn't on a cruiser he wasn't always on what you'd call a "sport bike." Shit, when I first met him I think he was rocking an FJR and basically was getting his knee down on the sweepers. I liked that nutter right away.

P

we have not yet begun to beat the dead horse!

[The Black Knight]

we have not yet begun to beat the dead horse!

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[~Barn~]

I didn't read all of this. Is this the BBQ thread?

[CBR-Cowboy]

No reason to let the dead horse go to waste, fire up the grill!

[#1Townie]

I didn't read all of this. Is this the BBQ thread?

well something got roasted. nit sure if you want to eat it. lol

[salsashark]

My bike is a white 2012 Ducati Multistrada Touring S if interested Salsashark.
I can send pictures when you get serious.

:up:



I didn't read all of this. Is this the BBQ thread?


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[HOTCARCASS]

So did this ride happen? If not I propose doing it this weekend.