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iMotorbike
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 02:54 AM
In short, no. Not really. Let’s be clear about this from the get-go, there are people who will lean on both ends of the spectrum when it comes to this question. It all depends on who you’re asking. To some, the 2018 Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX is exactly what the doctor prescribed. To others, it’s complete overkill – a tool for tools to prance about on with little to no relevance as far as the average Joe or Jane is concerned.

Revealed to the world not too long ago, the H2 SX and H2 SX SE is more than just a regular Kawasaki H2 that has been fitted with (optional) panniers. For starters, the H2 SX boasts new bodywork to go with a more robust trellis frame. Elsewhere, power output has been lowered to 200 PS compared to the H2’s figure of 215 PS(with ram-air) but torque figures have been increased by 3.8 Nm to 137.3 Nm.

While the engine itself retains the same 998 cc displacement and inline-four cylinder layout as the H2, the engine of the H2 SX has been reworked with new cast aluminum pistons, cylinder heads and cylinders. Also, the compression ratio has been increased from 8.5:1 to 11.2:1 while the supercharger features a new impeller, intake chamber, cams and exhaust components.

In terms of cockpit display, the 2018 Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX is equipped with an LCD screen while the H2 SX SE gets a fancier full-color TFT display along with Kawasaki Launch Control Mode, a quickshifter for clutchless shifting, heated grips and a centerstand as well as LED cornering lights to go with the full LED lighting system – the latter is available on the H2 SX as standard.

Seat height of the H2 SX is quoted at 835 mm and the fuel tank is capable of carrying a total of 19 litres as opposed to the 17 in the H2. Kerb weight is rated at 256 kg. So, that’s pretty much the gist of the new Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX. Yes, it may seem like a sports tourer that’s constructed way out of the realm of relevance but if no one pushes the boundaries of engineering, we’ll all still be riding around on horses, right?

Saw this on the website: https://imotorbike.my/news/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-is-a-200-ps-supercharged-sports-tourer-too-much

bulldog
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 07:13 AM
In short, no. Not really. Let’s be clear about this from the get-go, there are people who will lean on both ends of the spectrum when it comes to this question. It all depends on who you’re asking. To some, the 2018 Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX is exactly what the doctor prescribed. To others, it’s complete overkill – a tool for tools to prance about on with little to no relevance as far as the average Joe or Jane is concerned.

Revealed to the world not too long ago, the H2 SX and H2 SX SE is more than just a regular Kawasaki H2 that has been fitted with (optional) panniers. For starters, the H2 SX boasts new bodywork to go with a more robust trellis frame. Elsewhere, power output has been lowered to 200 PS compared to the H2’s figure of 215 PS(with ram-air) but torque figures have been increased by 3.8 Nm to 137.3 Nm.

While the engine itself retains the same 998 cc displacement and inline-four cylinder layout as the H2, the engine of the H2 SX has been reworked with new cast aluminum pistons, cylinder heads and cylinders. Also, the compression ratio has been increased from 8.5:1 to 11.2:1 while the supercharger features a new impeller, intake chamber, cams and exhaust components.

In terms of cockpit display, the 2018 Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX is equipped with an LCD screen while the H2 SX SE gets a fancier full-color TFT display along with Kawasaki Launch Control Mode, a quickshifter for clutchless shifting, heated grips and a centerstand as well as LED cornering lights to go with the full LED lighting system – the latter is available on the H2 SX as standard.

Seat height of the H2 SX is quoted at 835 mm and the fuel tank is capable of carrying a total of 19 litres as opposed to the 17 in the H2. Kerb weight is rated at 256 kg. So, that’s pretty much the gist of the new Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX. Yes, it may seem like a sports tourer that’s constructed way out of the realm of relevance but if no one pushes the boundaries of engineering, we’ll all still be riding around on horses, right?

Saw this on the website: https://imotorbike.my/news/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-is-a-200-ps-supercharged-sports-tourer-too-much Some images of the bike:
https://cdn.imotorbike.my/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-5-e1512376800549.jpg

https://cdn.imotorbike.my/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-6-e1512376898960.jpg


Honestly I love the idea! Sport Tourer with some balls...seems like a great option for older guys like me who want to make the switch to something more comfy, but not lose the power of the sportbike. :rock:

asp_125
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 09:41 AM
+1. I have helibars on my VFR to make long distances comfy without losing the sportiness of the bike. But it is a bit dated compared to the latest generation of sport tourers. If I didn't love the V4 so much I'd be thinking Ninja 1000 or something, the H2 is a bit out of my price range these days.

j0ker
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 10:02 AM
Foooking nice ride right there. I have been watching the releases since they started talking about the new SX. To me, the riding position still seems overly aggressive for a touring bike though. Where are the cup holders?!

madvlad
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 10:03 AM
Some images of the bike:
https://cdn.imotorbike.my/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-5-e1512376800549.jpg

https://cdn.imotorbike.my/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-kawasaki-ninja-h2-sx-6-e1512376898960.jpg


Honestly I love the idea! Sport Tourer with some balls...seems like a great option for older guys like me who want to make the switch to something more comfy, but not lose the power of the sportbike. :rock:

They've had the ZG1400 Concourse which is damn peppy and you still get the comfort factor, hell some Littleton and CSP officers use them still. Not my cup of tea but I'm sure it will sell.

bulldog
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 10:38 AM
They've had the ZG1400 Concourse which is damn peppy and you still get the comfort factor, hell some Littleton and CSP officers use them still. Not my cup of tea but I'm sure it will sell. Yeah but a 1400CC vs a 998CC.......FI (forced induction) makes a huge difference to get that power from a smaller bike....hence why I drive a WRX with a tiny 2.5 litter engine, but with FI! I spent most my riding days on a 600cc for this reason (re-geared, but always smaller than a 1000cc); love me a smaller bike.

ZG1400 Concourse = 157HP and weighs 670lbs
Ninja H2 SX = 200hp and weighs 564pnds

I doubt it would even be a race between the two with those stats; the Ninja should blow the doors off it.

Mother Goose
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 10:48 AM
I doubt it would even be a race between the two with those stats; the Ninja should blow the doors off it.
How? It has no doors. :think:

bulldog
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 10:52 AM
How? It has no doors. :think: :spit: Good one....you got me there.... :silly:

Ummm....blow it's socks off then...no, doesn't have socks....fine...it will make it eat dust.....well if on dirt...ok a dirty paved road dust. :lol:


Looks alone I'd choose the Ninja for sure!

madvlad
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 11:41 AM
Yeah but a 1400CC vs a 998CC.......FI (forced induction) makes a huge difference to get that power from a smaller bike....hence why I drive a WRX with a tiny 2.5 litter engine, but with FI! I spent most my riding days on a 600cc for this reason (re-geared, but always smaller than a 1000cc); love me a smaller bike.

ZG1400 Concourse = 157HP and weighs 670lbs
Ninja H2 SX = 200hp and weighs 564pnds

I doubt it would even be a race between the two with those stats; the Ninja should blow the doors off it.

157hp is more than enough to get that thing going lol, 200hp for a non track bike is absolutely stupid lol

bulldog
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 11:48 AM
157hp is more than enough to get that thing going lol, 200hp for a non track bike is absolutely stupid lol I guess that is one opinion....I think it is awesome!

Guess same could be said for a 1000cc sportbike though.....doubt 98% of people could ride a 600 (sportbike race type; ex: Honda 600RR) to it's full potential, but we see 1000cc's all over......like your Ducati right ;)


Plus Just because you have a lot of HP doesn't mean you have to go 100+ mph; the added power helps with traffic and getting in and out on the low end. Plus with this weight I am sure it will handle better too......

Okrapp
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 01:04 PM
Awesome bike and not a bad price. I like a little more tour in my sport touring and haven't felt short on power. But dang that looks fun.

asp_125
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 04:30 PM
Having +1000cc's on a sport tourer means less shifting in the twisty stuff, and less high rpm vibration when you're covering ground at light speed.

madvlad
Wed Dec 6th, 2017, 06:05 PM
I guess that is one opinion....I think it is awesome!

Guess same could be said for a 1000cc sportbike though.....doubt 98% of people could ride a 600 (sportbike race type; ex: Honda 600RR) to it's full potential, but we see 1000cc's all over......like your Ducati right ;)


Plus Just because you have a lot of HP doesn't mean you have to go 100+ mph; the added power helps with traffic and getting in and out on the low end. Plus with this weight I am sure it will handle better too......

Yeah my Ducati is nowhere near 200hp, at 155hp that thing has some serious issues keeping the front end down haha. People buy what they want, I honestly don't care, again not my type of bike. I'd shoot more for a S1000XR for a tourer in my book.

bulldog
Thu Dec 7th, 2017, 07:07 AM
Yeah my Ducati is nowhere near 200hp, at 155hp that thing has some serious issues keeping the front end down haha. People buy what they want, I honestly don't care, again not my type of bike. I'd shoot more for a S1000XR for a tourer in my book. But.....could you ride a 600cc to it's full potential...yet you have a 1000cc. Just saying it's not that crazy an idea to have a non track bike with lots of power.

Plus, aren't you like 25 years old? You got plenty of time till you get to FOG status....guess I hit it next year if it is 40 :lol: Damn in my 20's I doubt I ever cared about comfort on a bike....was all about gaining skills to get better.


I do like the S1000XR though; seems fun to ride :up:

madvlad
Thu Dec 7th, 2017, 09:26 AM
But.....could you ride a 600cc to it's full potential...yet you have a 1000cc. Just saying it's not that crazy an idea to have a non track bike with lots of power.

Plus, aren't you like 25 years old? You got plenty of time till you get to FOG status....guess I hit it next year if it is 40 :lol: Damn in my 20's I doubt I ever cared about comfort on a bike....was all about gaining skills to get better.


I do like the S1000XR though; seems fun to ride :up:

In all reality none of us could ride a bike to full potential, only the gifted cab do that such as GP and such. We are all a bunch of n00bs in comparison lol.

Aaron
Mon Dec 11th, 2017, 09:31 AM
So what, now we have fake accounts advertising here?

At any rate. Personally, I think it's ugly. And having sat on one, I find my S1000RR more comfortable. Plus my RR has more touring items (cruise control!), gets better fuel economy, and would destroy that bike in any performance scenario. I lack the OEM panniers, but I've got some nice aftermarket ones.

I've hated the H2 since the concept came out. Forced induction has one serious drawback that everyone seems to be missing, and it's why this bike weighs 120+ pounds more than any other 1,000 Superbike. And I know they're touting this as a sport touring bike, but that's because they tried advertising it as a superbike but it was too heavy. Well it's too fat, so why not try calling it a sport touring bike and adding panniers? Yet it's as uncomfortable as a ZX10R. And the 10R is faster.

salsashark
Mon Dec 11th, 2017, 11:21 AM
So what, now we have fake accounts advertising here?

Funny... was thinking the same thing. Click baity goodness.

bulldog
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 07:17 AM
So what, now we have fake accounts advertising here?


Funny... was thinking the same thing. Click baity goodness.
And yet, still #1 post starter and #1 post last week :dunno: :lol:

madvlad
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 09:23 AM
#permaban

bulldog
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 10:02 AM
#permaban I don't know, I actually like the site he posted and have found some good content on there :)

At least it got us talking.......

madvlad
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 11:32 AM
Just being sarcastic lol

bulldog
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 11:46 AM
Just being sarcastic lol Heck, you are more into the motorcycle stuff than me nowadays....surprised you didn't like that site too. Seriously has some cool motorcycle articles.

madvlad
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 12:01 PM
Not much of a reader to be honest lol and being honest, I didn't click the site :lol:

Aaron
Tue Dec 12th, 2017, 12:38 PM
I want to go read the articles, I'm pissed Sport Rider closed shop.

But I don't want to support their clickbait bullshit. Maybe if the writer joined the discussion and did more than copy/paste the article, add a link, and try to make it look anonymous.

~Barn~
Thu Dec 21st, 2017, 10:08 AM
Not sure why I'm gonna put this here, but here goes...

Found your Christmas Sweater, Nate!

https://images.sunfrogshirts.com/2017/08/22/57656-1503407483012-Gildan-Lon-Black-_w93_-front.jpg

bulldog
Thu Dec 21st, 2017, 10:47 AM
Not sure why I'm gonna put this here, but here goes...

Found your Christmas Sweater, Nate!

https://images.sunfrogshirts.com/2017/08/22/57656-1503407483012-Gildan-Lon-Black-_w93_-front.jpg

That's awesome...thanks! Were did you find that?

I just got some bulldog socks and my wife bought me this sweater:
https://img1.etsystatic.com/182/0/13458357/il_340x270.1377875283_jj8i.jpg

madvlad
Thu Dec 21st, 2017, 11:59 AM
:lol: that's rad af

bulldog
Thu Dec 21st, 2017, 02:04 PM
:lol: that's rad af I am assuming that is his Xmas present to me when it comes in :)

~Barn~
Thu Dec 21st, 2017, 04:14 PM
That's awesome...thanks! Were did you find that? <Snip...>

A website called Sunfrog.