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rforsythe
Mon May 22nd, 2006, 01:11 PM
Category: Tech Articles
Type: Offsite Link

Article Name: Ducati Resource
Author: rforsythe
Description: Off-site Ducati Site

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OldKneeDragger
Tue Jan 6th, 2009, 09:20 AM
The link doesn't work.

Could it have been a better resource than my http://www.ducati-lies.com (http://www.ducati-lies.com/) :scream1:

spudwrench
Sat Jan 17th, 2009, 06:33 PM
ducati's are great looking bikes, works of art. they really are. I love the hell out of how good they look.

Yes, they look good.

Very good.

Bought an '07 GSXR1000 instead. Looks great, can outperform a ducati in the right hands.

xxaarraa
Tue Sep 27th, 2011, 05:08 PM
ducati's are great looking bikes, works of art. they really are. I love the hell out of how good they look.

Yes, they look good.

Very good.

Bought an '07 GSXR1000 instead. Looks great, can outperform a ducati in the right hands.

Yabutt, suzies look butt ass ugly though :D

On a serious note, Ducati's racing success is nothing to scoff at. Out on the track, looks count for very little and very few companies have a better racing pedigree than Ducati.

Japanese bikes are great, but they are really big, really heavy and generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me. If you are a small guy/girl, there are very few liter bikes / superbikes that are better packaged than Ducatis.

grim
Tue Sep 27th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Yabutt, suzies look butt ass ugly though :D

On a serious note, Ducati's racing success is nothing to scoff at. Out on the track, looks count for very little and very few companies have a better racing pedigree than Ducati.

Japanese bikes are great, but they are really big, really heavy and generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me. If you are a small guy/girl, there are very few liter bikes / superbikes that are better packaged than Ducatis.


Way to bring back a zombie thread, especially to comment on someone who isn't a member anymore!

Jmetz
Tue Sep 27th, 2011, 05:14 PM
Go ride your heavy, clunky, Jap bike.

stubbicatt
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 06:24 AM
Love my Duc. Yep. I will mention one, obvious, thing though.

Just about anybody can outperform me on my bike. Put Vale Rossi on a "Big Wheel" and I may have trouble keeping up.

Guys, it is the rider's skills that make these things go like they do. :)

Bueller
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 07:13 AM
Way to bring back a zombie thread, especially to comment on someone who isn't a member anymore!
Way to stay on top of policing these infractions, especially since it was sort of motorcycle related, we can't have that shit.

grim
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 08:11 AM
Way to stay on top of policing these infractions, especially since it was sort of motorcycle related, we can't have that shit.

Your damn right bueller this forum will have no motorcycle related talk ever!!!

UglyDogRacing
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 09:27 AM
Japanese bikes are great, but they are really big, really heavy and generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me. If you are a small guy/girl, there are very few liter bikes / superbikes that are better packaged than Ducatis.

You've obviously not checked out a Japanese bike in the last 10 years.

brennahm
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 11:44 AM
^+1

vort3xr6
Wed Sep 28th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I would love a Duc. My bank account would not love a Duc.

xxaarraa
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 08:04 AM
You've obviously not checked out a Japanese bike in the last 10 years.

Maybe, maybe not. Can you name a few Japanese liter bikes with a dry clutch, single sided swingarm, adjustable shocks front and back, adjustable levers, slipper clutch, a decent FI system and let's say under 400 lbs with a 30 inch seat height?

Sean
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 08:19 AM
...generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me.


Can you name a few Japanese liter bikes with a dry clutch, single sided swingarm, adjustable shocks front and back, adjustable levers, slipper clutch, a decent FI system and let's say under 400 lbs with a 30 inch seat height?I don't see a lot of these traits as "pushing the technology envelope."

Honda's has offered slipper clutches in different bikes for years.

Is a dry clutch really better than a wet one? (I'm asking, I actually don't know. But I don't think it is.)

You could adjust the suspension on my 01 R6 (front and back).

I feel adjustable levers are more of a perk than anything else. And with Duc, you pay the price tag for such perks.

The VFR has had a SSS for a long time. And really, is it pushing technology or just something different? Their MotoGP bike doesn't have a SSS, so there must be pros and cons to it.

400lbs and 30" seat height are not really advances in technology IMO.

Not starting a fight, just offering a different perspective.

brennahm
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 08:54 AM
...adjustable shocks front and back...

Isn't Bimota the only one to have done this?

And yeah, Ducati's the ONLY oem to know how to set EFI on a bike...:roll:

dirkterrell
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 09:26 AM
I don't see a lot of these traits as "pushing the technology envelope."

Honda's has offered slipper clutches in different bikes for years.
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You could adjust the suspension on my 01 R6 (front and back).


The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.



The VFR has had a SSS for a long time. And really, is it pushing technology or just something different? Their MotoGP bike doesn't have a SSS, so there must be pros and cons to it.


The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

salsashark
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 09:32 AM
I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

Thank you...


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Sean
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 09:41 AM
And guess where most of my knowledge of the history of Honda came from, stopping by Dirk's garage. :lol:

OUTLAWD
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 09:51 AM
Maybe, maybe not. Can you name a few Japanese liter bikes with a dry clutch, single sided swingarm, adjustable shocks front and back, adjustable levers, slipper clutch, a decent FI system and let's say under 400 lbs with a 30 inch seat height?

on the plus side, jap bikes don't sound like they are rattling apart when they come to a stop, SSSA's are heavy and not as rigid as a dual sided swingarms, even the new gixxer 6 has Showa BBF and Monoblocs, pretty much all sportbikes are under 400 now, and why would I want a 30" seat height? I'm not a midget...

I guess you really haven't looked at any jap bike in the last 10 years... and a 749...that's a great looking bike :lol:

Ralph, the link still doesn't work...

xxaarraa
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 10:32 AM
The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.



The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

You are missing the point.

I was not denigrating any bike, my post starts with "Japanese bikes are great" I started off on a Ninja 250 and owned a CRF230 at some point so I speak from (limited) experience. Discussing things on an Internet forum is about driving positive debate. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are denigrating you.

Besides, my whole post was in response to someone expressing their preference (or lack there of for Ducatis).

Also, replying with "that's not needed" "that's not new technology" "that doesn't count as technology" is predictable and smacks of a defensive attitude.

Ride safe, enjoy yourself, maybe we'll run into each other one day. I'll be waving :)

dirkterrell
Thu Sep 29th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Japanese bikes are great, but they are really big, really heavy and generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me.


You've obviously not checked out a Japanese bike in the last 10 years.


Maybe, maybe not. Can you name a few Japanese liter bikes with a dry clutch, single sided swingarm, adjustable shocks front and back, adjustable levers, slipper clutch, a decent FI system and let's say under 400 lbs with a 30 inch seat height?



Also, replying with "that's not needed" "that's not new technology" "that doesn't count as technology" is predictable and smacks of a defensive attitude.


Defensive on my part? Hardly. You claim that Ducati "pushes the technology envelope" more than Japanese bikes and then list a bunch of stuff that has been around for decades (and often used on Japanese bikes). Pointing out the weakness of your argument is not defensive. You like Ducatis. That's great and not a point for any sensible debate. You claim that Ducati pushes the technology envelope more or better than the Japanese. That is debatable.

stubbicatt
Fri Sep 30th, 2011, 07:38 AM
I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

+1 this.

They are all cool. I see no need to justify my personal decisions to folks any more. It is a form of submission, which is probably why the denegration of other machines/riders. Sort of evens the field.

Ride what you like, like what you ride.

kawasakirob
Wed Oct 26th, 2011, 05:37 PM
The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.



The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great, They are the best. You like Harleys? Great,Enjoy getting passed by a Kawasaki. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.
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