Anyone ever notice that concrete doesn't give you the same grip that asphalt does?
Anyone ever notice that concrete doesn't give you the same grip that asphalt does?
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I've noticed that the concrete isn't ususally as smooth as the asphalt, but never really had grip problems on either. Asphalt tends to have more "tar snakes" on it and I certainly notice those on hot days...
Wet concrete sucks the big fat one.
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I'll take wet concrete over wet (or super hot) tar snakes.
Those things are the debil!
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my local track back in Va. had concrete strips through the turns for "traction." i never noticed any extra traction or a lack of traction................there were some nasty tar snacks through the chicane that made for an interesting time
You dump your bike or something?Originally Posted by Bassil Duwaik
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New concrete sucks the big one, all that damn dust!! PMI had some of that at turn ten when I was there, it sucked balls...spun up the rear every time through that corner
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PMI sucks anyways...Like La Junta
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Didn't dumb the bike but came too close for comfort. Riding up hwy 93 and right where the lane merges for the first time after 6th going N I hit the front brakes pretty hard but careful not to lock them up when I ran into some bumps and it made my front tire squeak with every bump so I thought I could attribute it being asphalt.
Then a few hours later I was pushing it a little with the onramp which was concrete when I noticed my back end come a little lose though parts of the circle ramp.
I'm sure both these experiences can be attributed to me pushing it but the purpose of this thread was to get some impute from your experiences with it and draw upon them which I am/have
Thanks for the heads up on the matter
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Maybe your tires are the weak link here, hmmmmm
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Not saying I've got the best tires but micheiln pilot powers, with some 1500mi on them. I was riding on them for no less then 30min when I had those two encounters so I know they were warm. It's not the first time such a thing happens.
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I wonder if there was air in them? Hummmmmm x2
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K....The tires are good. Obviously, the rear end is a little too light. Here, strap these babies on the Duc!
Fill 'em up with sand and no more traction control probs.
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might as well fill them with the gold bars you would normally use to pay for the valve adjustments every 20 miles on those piles. That would be heavier than sand and therefore better for traction.
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The Pilot Power is one of the best street tires I've ever run...I'd say it's 85-90 percent of the race tires I've run on the track and way WAY better than any race tire when used on the street.
What is your problem with them?
Last edited by rybo; Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 09:56 PM.
I'm running 35 in the rear and 37 in the front. I should have added a bit after the track last week. Everything is fine I was just pushing it too hard.
So for the most part you guys keep an extra eye out for those snakes (tar patches) in the road. I still think asphalt is better. I hate new concrete esp when it's still got those groves in them. They seem to pull my bike one way or the other till they wear down a bit.
Last edited by Bassil Duwaik; Thu Mar 29th, 2007 at 10:20 PM.
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i run 31 in the front and 30 in teh back...That seems to work well for me...
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Definitely bump those up a few pounds. Maybe 38f and 41r. Thats what I run
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I'm running 35 in both tires on the street and 30 rear 31 front on the track
The concrete in the corners of your local track is to prevent the higher HP vehicles from tearing up the track surface. I believe that the condition of the surface, age, what maybe on it and temperature is more important re grip than whether it’s asphalt or concrete.
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Always found well maitenaned asphalt to be far grippier than concrete in road riding.
I've ridden most of my two wheeled life in the Uk - where prety much every road is tarmac surfaced.
Likely due to weather seeing road surfaces continually doused and water logged, but road surface and for some reason markings too are much better on the asphalt - when it rains here I can't see squat in teh glare of the water on the concrete surfaces - and night time driving / riding in the rain here seems to make it even worse.
Not sure also if the smaller vehicles in UK and europe do not tear the roads up as much as would occur here with the larger and resultingly heavier vehicles that are in use.
I know for a fact that the paint on the street doesn't grip for shit. But yeah I'll agree that temp, age and condition acounts for a lot but assuming that everything is on the up and up new surface and the likes would asphalt grip better ( I think so).
On a side note I think asphalt warms up quicker.
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