Haven't gotten your motorcycle license yet??

[clustermagnet]

anyways, i actually took my DMV test in colorado... i did my class with MOST... many years ago....

so with that said... it was a joke... none of the skills they teach you are even NEAR enough for riding on the street.

same goes for cars

[Crashdaddy]

anyways, i actually took my DMV test in colorado... i did my class with MOST... many years ago....

so with that said... it was a joke... none of the skills they teach you are even NEAR enough for riding on the street.

same goes for cars

When did you take a class that MOST was teaching? I will agree that the DMV test is not difficult enough to prove a rider can keep his or her self alive in the world. It should be a hell of a lot harder. But all I hear is people crying about how hard it is, and that they are riding their buddies enduro for the test. Good plan.

As far as crashes, I doubt seriously that Denver has a higher rate than NYC when you factor in how many months/miles we can ride versus you. I don't know the facts here, just my opinion. It's not based on either city having better or worse riders, but any time you have a large population concentration (NYC) bad things can happen.

[clustermagnet]

sorry, wasnt talking about bike accidents...

was talking about car accidents.

as far as my MOST class, its been ... what... 6 years i think?

The thing is... the entire system is flawed...

Its asinine to allow anyone to go buy a 1000cc bike, and expect them to perform well...

start with age/experience limitations... not just some stupid ass test.

[mclarke]

Cluster, you continue to spue nothign but trash and shit on the forums. Why dont you take your little 'I love NY party' somewhere else?

NY Motorcycle accident data of 2005 (latest year I could find)

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/FinalR...cles&year=2005


Thats 172 Fatal crashes

Colorado Motorcycle accident data of 2005
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/FinalR...cles&year=2005

Thats 92 Fatal crashes

Now lets take population into consideration, in 2005 here it is:
New York: 19,306,183
Colorado: 4,753,377

ok break it down to just registered motorcycles

New York: 217,546
Colorado: 95,089

So as you can see, Colorado is just as safe to ride as anywhere buddy. THe numbers are on par with Census, population, and registered bike data. Dont like the data? I suggest you go research it yourself.

Sources:
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov

[Crashdaddy]

Cluster, you continue to spue nothign but trash and shit on the forums. Why dont you take your little 'I love NY party' somewhere else?

NY Motorcycle accident data of 2005 (latest year I could find)

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/FinalR...cles&year=2005


Thats 172 Fatal crashes

Colorado Motorcycle accident data of 2005
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/FinalR...cles&year=2005

Thats 92 Fatal crashes

Now lets take population into consideration, in 2005 here it is:
New York: 19,306,183
Colorado: 4,753,377

ok break it down to just registered motorcycles

New York: 217,546
Colorado: 95,089

So as you can see, Colorado is just as safe to ride as anywhere buddy. THe numbers are on par with Census, population, and registered bike data. Dont like the data? I suggest you go research it yourself.

Sources:
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov

Hey

Thanks for the stats! I knew I was close on the numbers, but you proved we are much better off.

Thanks!

[greenramp]

That's gret jermag.... I moved here from Seattle and thats the guy that gave me my driving test 10 years ago. Small world I guess. Good job on the post.

[pilot]

Ah, D, you just jealous cuz there are so few out there that you can't get one.

"No ZZR's allowed in the garage! " --from Crashdaddy's sig line.

[blue02celi]

Basically read the handbook and take the written test. Passing this will get you your Motorcycle Instruction Permit. It is good for 3 years, but has limitations

3 years?!
GEEEZZz... I just moved out from NY, my permit was only good for a year, and you have to renew it no test, after the first renewal they make you take the test again. Im in the process of switching my license over to CO so I can get my permit and sign up for a course, there seems to be alot more options out here as far as classes and such... and I've never seen anyone ride without a helmet until I got out here.

[James]

I was the same way. I got my permit the first day I got my bike, because the test was easy if you glanced over the handbook. But after looking at the tight turns you have to do in the cone swerve part of the driving test, I continued to put off the driving test. It just doesn't look possible to perform the cone swerve in a bike bigger than a 50cc.

[clustermagnet]

like... why would you want a license!? seriously, whos gonna check... just dont pull over...

[gsxrscott]

I was the same way. I got my permit the first day I got my bike, because the test was easy if you glanced over the handbook. But after looking at the tight turns you have to do in the cone swerve part of the driving test, I continued to put off the driving test. It just doesn't look possible to perform the cone swerve in a bike bigger than a 50cc.

Took my Colorado motorcycle test at the DMV 17 years ago (still same test) on a full dress Goldwing with no mistakes. The kid taking it at the same time flunked on a Rebel. You should probably learn to ride BEFORE you take the test!

[Jayock]

Ill preface this with saying that Ive taken MSF, I've passed the tests, etc.

I do think the tests they do are worthless. How many times do you need to make a 1.5 lane U-turn on a GSXR 1000 to save your life? How many times are you weaving at 5 mph back and forth? And I'm sure that if I wasn't very good at stopping from 15mph to 0 mph, id probably still survive the accident, figuring that any idiot could atleast get from 15 to 8 or so in that time.

The tests should exclude all of this crap, and test actual accident avoidance in a somewhat realistic set of controls (speed, time, etc). Some people might get hurt in the test, but better in a closed parking lot than in front of a F350.

[tarded400]

I guess you could kinda describe it like my engineering degree. You'll never use 99% of the crap, but its just to prove that you're willing to learn and work.

[DucWise]

You should probably learn to ride BEFORE you take the test!

Haha. Sound advice