Originally Posted by
CaneZach
See, I was willing to just say my peace and let it lie, but now I feel like I'm being forced to respond:
First off, this whole BS "you aren't a racer, apparently... I guess they ride so f'in good they don't need to be proactive" and your "everybody should sign up for this guy's class because..." is all bullshit. One, all you're doing is creating a straw man argument. Two, they're deflection techniques to try to take the focus off of you. Three, not once did I ever say anything close to what you describe, such as there's no need to be proactive and I'm the best coach in the world. Rather than have a discussion, you got pissy and responded with BS.
Now, onto the matter at hand, which is your citation. You don't like to be boxed in, and I get that. I don't either! The problem I have, as I've said all along, is that your first description is simple: "doing about 62 in a 55" "cage in front of me doing that semi swerve cellphone action" "behind me they are closing me in". As I pointed out, it all seems like a normal day in Colorado. Now when you describe it a second time, the car in front of you is going lane to lane and the cars behind you are literally 3' off your bumper. Lane to lane or line to line, however you described it, is not a "semi weave". The lanes on the interstate are 12'6", so that's a full-on weave if they're going from center line to shoulder. Instead, you use the minimizing word "semi" to describe it.
When you're talking about the cars behind you, you say they're closing you in at first. Then the second time you describe it, you're saying that they're literally "3 ft behind me riding my ass like a fucking horse". There's a huge difference between someone who is closing me in and someone who is right on top of me. I find it hard to believe they were anywhere close to you. Why? Because if they were as close to you as you described, you would have said so during your first post where you were trying to defend your actions. Pointing out that someone posed a clear and present threat makes your actions more understandable. Instead, you initially simply described them as "closing you in". If someone is right on my ass, the very first time I describe their actions, I'm saying they're RIGHT ON MY ASS!!! I'm not saying, "They were closing me in". Human nature tends to paint ourselves in the best possible light and when we try to defend actions or response to a certain situation, we try to maximize others' actions that caused us to react a certain way and minimize our own actions during the event. In this case, you don't maximize their actions (weaving, following too closely, etc.) until the second time you describe it! If it really happened the way you described it in your response to me, you would've described it that way the first time.
As to your Daddy's teachings: I don't care how much time, training, or experience your daddy has when the subject is you. Your dad may be or may have been a helluva rider, but for all I know, he could have been a terrible teacher. Frankly, I don't know. There are plenty of people who know astral physics and can't teach a math class to first-graders, and there are plenty of guys who can ride their asses off but couldn't teach someone how to even throw a leg over the bike. You describing your father's experience doesn't mean crap when it comes to YOUR experience. That's like me saying, "Hey, Valentino Rossi is my best friend!" He's arguably the best rider in the world, but that doesn't mean I know how to ride worth a damn. You want to beat your chest about his 41 years of experience and your 12 years of this and 19 years of that? It doesn't impress anyone on here and it doesn't come anywhere close to telling us about your abilities! Like I've already said, I know people who say they have 15-years of experience, but all that means is they've ridden for 15 years. When you look at the time they've spent in the saddle, you would find that they log as many miles in one year as some people clock on a weekend! They talk about their years, but in reality, they're as experienced as most rookie riders. If they had said they logged 15K miles last year, that would quantify their experience. If they'd said they took an MSF rider course or went through Levels I and II of Keith Code's school, that would give an idea as to their abilities. Instead, all you said was "I've got 12 years of this and 19 years of that and my daddy has 41 years" Each of us on here has probably ridden with someone who has described their experience the same way you did, but when it comes time to ride, they can't ride very well at all. All your bragging about your years of crash-free and ticket-free riding is an attempt to make yourself a better rider than you really are. It's no different than the guy that gets stopped for speeding and the his argument isn't that he wasn't speeding, it's that he hasn't gotten a ticket in twenty years. As every single person on here will tell you, and you would probably admit it too (not to me, but probably to yourself), just because you've had ten years of ticket-free riding doesn't make you a good or even a safe rider. It simply means you haven't been caught or ticketed. The average drunk driver has driven intoxicated at least ten times before they get their first DUI. Now think about how many times you've sped and never been caught. Want to rethink your "my 12 years of blah blah blah experience" line again?
FZRguy, to answer your question, yes, I'm a ten year cop. I've been a motor officer in the past, but I always make it a point to be a little more lenient to fellow riders, as long as they were cooperative and courteous. Since I ride, I understand the challenges and dangers we face, which is why I could understand someone not wanting to get boxed in. The main issue I have, aside from everything I've described, is the whole "fucking law up my ass, fucking cops enforce blah blah blah, I wasn't the fastest one on the highway" bullshit. People carry this attitude with them and they wonder why they get tickets all the time... but it's always the cop's fault.
So, with that all said, flame away.
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