Obama: "Spread the wealth around..."

[JustSomeDude]

Obama's Own Words: http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html

New details on His Plan: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

More reading: http://news.aol.com/political-machin...edistribution/

It's no surprise the socialists ("liberals/democrats" to the lay person) love this plan. But if Joe Plumber ain't happy... how are 51% of the public?

[King Nothing]

But if Joe Plumber ain't happy... how are 51% of the public?

Because 51% of the public are retards.

[puckstr]

Because he has MORE Experience than
Barrack Hussein Obama

[MetaLord 9]

Because 51% of the public are retards.

I think you're lowballing that number b/c you're such a good guy...

[PROFLYER]

^that's funny! If he gets in, who wants to go in on an island with me? We could build a race track....

[JustSomeDude]

Oh boy - I just found out Obama's tax plan is RETROACTIVE for the last EIGHT YEARS of Bush tax cuts...

"The wealthiest 2% -- according to Senator Obama's website - are asked to return portions of their tax cuts from which they benefited over the last eight years. It is unclear if he will "ask" or legislate, who are the wealthiest 2%, exactly how much money this redistribution of wealth will bring in, and whether a returning of the tax cuts refers to a retroactive lump sum payment or not.

Equally uncertain is whether or not Oprah is chomping at the bit to write a check to the federal government for her share." http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...bution_of.html

Wow... that's awesome. Considering 40% of my yearly salary is based on profit-sharing, I know this "spread the wealth" plan will directly effect me. My boss makes less profits - I make less through profit-sharing. Great. Can't wait.

Thank you socialism... I love you.

[MetaLord 9]

Remember, rich people are bad because they're not you. So let's tax 'em!

[puckstr]

Remember, rich people are bad because they're not you. So let's tax 'em!

You just jealousy

[MetaLord 9]

You just jealousy

Oh yeah? Well you're so poor you can't even afford the " 're " in "you're!" So there!

[Rhino]

That clip allows me to put things into perspective for most...

I'm a self-employed plumber. I make a nice living, but consider my prices quite fair at about 1/3 less than the franchises. When I am making a business plan/model things are taken into account. Materials, fuel, insurance, etc. AND taxes. At the end of the day, what I charge minus what it costs to operate equals profit. If MY taxes are raised, my rates will raise, as will most other companies. Who will pay for that increase? Congress? The evil Rich? No, the customer. Understand, this is not vindictive, but the nature of business. As costs go up, rates go up. (Vindictive is when I charge more for you having an Obama sign or bumper sticker )So yeah, O's tax plan saved you $300/yr. But you pay $1000+ more as the cost of goods and services increase.

As much as most would like to believe that "the evil rich" are the paris hiltons of the world, most aren't stupid. If the majority of the financial load is pushed onto 5% of taxpayers, while the lower % is removed from more liability while being promised more benefits, how long will that system last? If you remove the incentive to invest by taxing the returns, why would the rich invest? As the current market shows, the individual faces risks.

Its all political promises leading up to an election. Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDAv-d-1XWQ (the rest of that episode is that the annual budget was gone in under a month and Homer had to resort to "shady measures" to pay the workers, as he couldn't very well raise rates)

Prime example: I did some work for a member of this board. Few minor things spent a little over 1 hour even offered to do a few more without charging more. Charged $75 The significant other made a comment under her breath "not bad for and hour". Of course, that didn't take into account the 1+ hour in drive time to and from the job. The $15 in gas (those big vans get thirsty) A few bucks in materials. A few bucks for the general operating costs (liability insurance, van insurance, my health insurance, etc. Then the 35% self employment tax. By the end, I'm earning less than half while the govt. is getting 1/3 with no risk and no investment. There are days I consider going to work for the big shops, as they take all the risk while promising more $ than I bring home now. If all us independents did this, the consumer will be at the mercy of the Big Shops who I'm sure some of you can attest charge ASTRONOMICAL fees.

On a positive note: I've done work for others on this board who have offered me more than I ask for, sometimes insistingly.

So, before the guys from Boulder jump in that I don't currently make over $250k... I could very easily if I took the risk and hired as few as 3 employees. Why should I take that risk? Especially if O gets his way with the mandatory health insurance? Here's my choice: I either provide you with insurance or I get fined and you get .gov subsidized insurance anyway. Do you think I'm going to find and buy the Premium Platinum Plan? It was stated in a debate this weekend: "When you're paying for me, I care about the quality and not the cost. When I'm paying for you, I care about the cost and not the quality".

To say that the Trickle Down policy didn't benefit people with wealth making it to the bottom, I'm pretty sure that the new policies will have the costs trickling down and harm those in the middle again, while being unaffecting to those at the bottom who don't pay for most things under subsidation now.

Before you pull that lever this year, just make sure you're looking through the turn and not target fixating on hollow promises and issues. (My attempt at pandering to riders! )

[King Nothing]

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Well done, Rhino. Unfortunately, the brain-dead, goose-stepping O supporters on this board will disregard anything you said as the ramblings of an under-educated, blue collar worker who needs the government to step in and save you from yourself.

[MetaLord 9]

Well done, Rhino. Unfortunately, the brain-dead, goose-stepping O supporters on this board will disregard anything you said as the ramblings of an under-educated, blue collar worker who needs the government to step in and save you from yourself.

yep, and have you ever been to church in your life? then it's your fault that Bush was elected & you should feel bad about that too.

[puckstr]

A vote for Obama is a vote
for

Unicorns and rainbows
s

[JustSomeDude]

A vote for Obama is a vote
for Unicorns and rainbows

Brilliant write-up Rhino... thank you for posting it. Please know that your contribution to our community is highly valued, and none of us wish you to close down your business to work for one of the big shops!

And thanks for the pic puckstr... you just made my day.

[King Nothing]

yep, and have you ever been to church in your life? then it's your fault that Bush was elected & you should feel bad about that too.

Yep. Been there lots. Bush is still better than gore or kerry. Which isn't saying much.

[64BonnieLass]

Its all political promises leading up to an election.

On a positive note: I've done work for others on this board who have offered me more than I ask for, sometimes insistingly.

A) I agree completely.

B) It's because you do things the right way and take care of your customers.

A vote for Obama is a vote for Unicorns and rainbows

Agreed: Unicorns don't exist and there is no pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

[MetaLord 9]

Yep. Been there lots. Bush is still better than gore or kerry. Which isn't saying much.

It's true! being the lesser of two evils only makes you (at the least) better than one person.

[King Nothing]

Terri, can I have your '64 Bonnie?

[puckstr]

unassociated to thread
but I like it

[64BonnieLass]

Terri, can I have your '64 Bonnie?

Sure sweetie!

[Devaclis]

mmm Rosario Dawnson

[JustSomeDude]

More class from the party of tolerance and inclusion:



I wonder if they'd support "Obama is a nigger" shirts just as fervently.
Somehow, I think their hypocrisy would be exposed at that point.

Fascism: it's funny how some people still can't see it.

[puckstr]

^^^^
I bet there parents are so proud of them

[fullgrownbear]

Good post Rhino.