Legacy of Gun Control

[The Black Knight]

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/flash/legacy.html

With so much focus on the economy, stock markets, gas prices(finally plunging!), taxes and healthcare. I thought one issue hasn't been talked about much by the two candidates. In my opinion it's just as important as the others if not moreso(because it's been around way before the others). And here it is, Gun Rights vs. Gun Control. Or more specifically: Second Amendment

Found this great video detaling the legacy of gun control and those that are the driving force behind it. For me this election is more or less about a single issue. I hate to sound like a single issue guy but to be honest the others don't concern me that much.

The economy will rise and fall as it always does. Stock markets will lose hundreds of points one day and then be up hundreds of the points the next, as it always has. Gas prices will continue to fluctuate until we can get some alternatives going, as they always have. Taxes are like Death, the only two things in life you are assured of having to pay. And healthcare, something of which I have through my own work, yet have never used once because I try and stay active and be healthy.

Yet for me, this election boils down to probably the thing I hold most dear. The Bill of Rights. On one hand I've got a candidate that has had a good record of voting for Gun Rights(though for a period of time had some ups and downs), yet has confirmed his pledge to always protect one specific amendment. On the other, I've got a candidate that next to President Clinton would eclipse him as the most liberal and anti-gun President to date. Nevermind the fact that he chose the author of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban as his Vice Pres. One who also has a long list of voting for gun control.

I found this video on another forum I frequent. Thought to myself it would make a nice addition among the other political threads going on this site. I also figured what the hell, here's one more chance to shift the winds of focus back on those who are in positions of trying to wrestle away our freedoms and give way to Big Government in order to think for us.

My favorite President said it best. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."


p.s.
on the video, hit play and follow directions.

[fullgrownbear]

It doesn't matter what's written in the books. At the end of the night my Glock 21 will be where she belongs.. Right by my side.


That being said - Hopefully the people in power haven't become so twisted, that they would remove one of our most prominent rights.

It seems like the ultimate goal is to be made more and more like a victim, with every crazy agenda that goes against the founders principals.

[The Black Knight]

It doesn't matter what's written in the books. At the end of the night my Glock 21 will be where she belongs.. Right by my side.


That being said - Hopefully the people in power haven't become so twisted, that they would remove one of our most prominent rights.

It seems like the ultimate goal is to be made more and more like a victim, with every crazy agenda that goes against the founders principals.

dude, I think we are past the point of hoping our leaders of today are not twisted. For some it's the ultimate goal and the final door to be opened to total control of the populace.

When the Supreme Court handed down it's decision back in June, there was an overwhelming response of disdain from the opposition. One's like Diane Feinstein making comments like, "it's the height of folly", and Brady Campaign saying it's only opened the doors for more violence.

If anything, these people(well all people of America) should have been in huge support of the Second Amendment achieving it's victory. But another sad factor is it only won by a 5-4 vote. Even four supreme court justices were clouded enough to vote against it. And these are the people in charge of keeping and protecting our Constitution?? Speaks volumes for the amount of people who are more and more leaning towards a government that can control it's people.

[JustSomeDude]

dude, I think we are past the point of hoping our leaders of today are not twisted. For some it's the ultimate goal and the final door to be opened to total control of the populace.

...

Speaks volumes for the amount of people who are more and more leaning towards a government that can control it's people.

The fact that democrats are finally accepting that the labels of "socialist" and "Marxist", and NOT complaining, is the biggest indicator of real "change" to come out of this election cycle. Russia went through similar change in the 1920's, and we all know how that worked out for them.

At least the socialists are comfortable admitting who they are now, and can no longer pretend they want anything to do with supporting, or upholding, our constitution. The scary thing is that over 50% of the population actually enjoys the idea of a socialist America.

Go figure.

[DavidofColorado]

I think that was a good video and it seems dated. It doesn't say anything about the current situation like with the heller case or the like.

But still better than anything that has came out of Hollyweird in while.

[The Black Knight]

I think that was a good video and it seems dated. It doesn't say anything about the current situation like with the heller case or the like.

But still better than anything that has came out of Hollyweird in while.

yeah I got it off the taurusarmed.net forums. Someone there said the same thing. It seemed a bit dated. Which I suppose by today's standards and issue's that have been decided it is old. However, I think it reflects much on the history of gun control and shows you where the real root of it lies.

[Cars-R-Coffins]

The scary thing is that over 50% of the population actually enjoys the idea of a socialist America.

I think your estimate of sheeple in America is low.

[puckstr]

From MY COLD DEAD HANDS

[DavidofColorado]

From MY COLD DEAD HANDS

That would be just fine with them. Remember Waco?

[The Black Knight]

That would be just fine with them. Remember Waco?

I think the point is, from "out cold dead hands", meaning, yeah you can have them. I won't be around for you to take them. Once you're dead, nothing has any meaning after that.

[schwagman]

All that the gun control laws do is keep guns out of the hands of honest people. I love all of my guns and they love me too.My precious

[DavidofColorado]

They can have them then. They will be empty, hot and still ready to be shot. I will have "my precious" to the end too.

[The Black Knight]

They can have them then. They will be empty, hot and still ready to be shot. I will have "my precious" to the end too.

HAHA

there's an old saying that goes, "one day someone will kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it, because it's completely empty of ammo."

[DavidofColorado]

Well they will find me dead in a ditch one day... but they will find me on top of a pile of brass.

[The Black Knight]

As with the video being a bit dated with it's information. Here's one on a more contemporary note.

Direct from the man's website: http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/urban_policy/

"As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets."

I'm sorry, but that last part is such a crock of s**t. I've said it time and again, if you don't believe Obama/Biden aren't out to get your guns. Then you're sadly mistaken.

[DavidofColorado]

None of my so-called assault weapons have ever been on a battlefield. For one army's do not use semi automatic only guns in battle. And 2 they are lieing if they try to pass off a bastard child of a real automatic rifle as the real thing. Its not!

[The Black Knight]

None of my so-called assault weapons have ever been on a battlefield. For one army's do not use semi automatic only guns in battle. And 2 they are lieing if they try to pass off a bastard child of a real automatic rifle as the real thing. Its not!

That's the major dividing factor. Obama and Biden are to stupid to know the difference between to the two.

[Bebop]

HAHA

there's an old saying that goes, "one day someone will kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it, because it's completely empty of ammo."

You mean like my signature line?

'It is better to die on your feet then live on your knees'

[DavidofColorado]

That's the major dividing factor. Obama and Biden are to stupid to know the difference between to the two.

I think that they know. But they are hoping that nobody else knows. I bet if we told them to their 2 faces like Joe the plumber did they still would push it because they are politically motivated to do so. They just didn't expect the word to get out via the internet.

[ghostrider_9]

I must say that I fully support gun control . . . even if you have to use both hands to control it!

[Bebop]

Gun control means hitting what you aim at.

[The Black Knight]

You mean like my signature line?

'It is better to die on your feet then live on your knees'

yep, I fully believe in that last quote.

[The Black Knight]

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http://www.snipersparadise.com/quotes1.htm

[TFOGGuys]