Nobody gives a rats ass what you think. Take another vacation.Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Well, after being away for awhile I happened to come back and stumble on this thread. Looks like a great heated discussion. So I'll throw my .02 cents in.
After many sessions at the shooting range, speaking with law enforcement either retired or active. Reading article after article on self-defense and further pursuit of more training I've come to this conclusion about a lot of situations and being CCW.
Here's my point of view. I got my CCW or CHP for my "OWN' personal protection. Meaning #1 comes first? Yep, I said it. I come first before anyone else's safety and here's why. I choose to exercise my Second Amendment right to protect myself and family. I firmly believe that it's also the duty of "EVERY" other citizen in America to worry about their own safety.
While some may choose to arm themselves(because they have that right) others may feel the need to rely on local law enforcement(for whatever reason).
I'll be straight forward, if I'm ever in a situation(any kind) that requires me to pull my firearm. I'm going to make sure myself is safe first(because I have to be in order to control my firearm). Second I'll make sure my family or friends with me are safe. After all that comes the general public.
I hate to sound callous and cold but the safety of complete strangers does not rank high on my list of priorities when it comes to a situation of violence where I have to pull my firearm. That doesn't mean I don't care about them at all, just means they come very far down the list.
Why do I believe that way? Well because I also believe that as it's my duty to protect myself and family. It's also your(populace) duty to protect yourselves as well. I'm not "YOUR" personal bodyguard nor am I going to go out of my way to endanger or compromise myself and my family over someone else. If you want to stay safe then either carry a gun yourself or hide behind the local law enforcement agent when he or she arrives roughly 8 to 13 minutes later.
Main reason I believe this way anymore is because for one I don't want to get sued by some whiny person that I had to help defend and then they being either mad because I have a concealed gun or anti-gun decide to sue me because of it. I also don't want to bring un-necessary heartache and grief upon myself and my family.
If I have to draw my gun in self-defense and then face the consequences afterwards. I'm going to be doing it to protect myself or family and friends and knowing that I'll be in the clear with them. I don't know what's up some strangers sleeve as far as the aftermath. They may get a wild hair and decide to sue. That's not something I want.
In closing, just because I focus on myself and my family first doesn't mean I won't help a fellow citizen. If I see a woman in the process of a rape for example I'll step in. But for instance like the mall shooting in Omaha. I'll make sure my family and friends are in the clear and out of harms way, before I step in to help total strangers. I'm sorry to say that but it's just the nature of the beast in todays world.
Finally, as far as College campus CCW or CHP is concerned. I'm kind of divided on this issue. For one I think most college kids are too immature and dumb to realize what a firearm can do. However, I believe once you've reached the minimum age(21 in most states) to legally obtain a CCW then you should be allowed to go where you please. Mainly because you've show competence in obtaining your CCW. So the law should trust you, just as we have to trust law enforcement.
I think one of the best things Universities and colleges can do are hire "REAL" security. Not these rent-a-state cops. And when I say real security, I'm talking Black Water types. Someone that is going to take charge of the situtation and has the resources(read: armed) to handle it. I think these institutions owe it to their students and families. If people are willing to drop crazy coin in order to go to a place of higher education. Then provide some damn service in all fields. And I'm not talking just a few guys, I'm talking many armed guards posted throughout the schools. If students or parents piss and moan about gun carrying guards, then tough. It's either allow people to protect themselves or provide more then adequent security to handle any situation.
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Your safety is up to you and you alone. I ain't your damn daddy or bodyguard and I'm surely not going to go out of my way to save your ass because you're unarmed. That's your responsibility and not the duty of your fellow citizens who are CCW or CHP. If a CCW or CHP can help it's a good thing but don't rely or put the burden on us to get you out of a jam.
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and I THOUGHT that meant that it was a joke. Next time I'm replying to another one of your shit posts I'll be sure to add 
Boo Fucking Hoo 
