Cause of this crash?

[SaShWhO]

[quote=Clovis;451039]I'm suprised no one else pointed this out, but at the start of the video you see the speed limit is 30 mph... he appeared to be traveling faster then 30! =P


surely no one has ever riden faster than 30 on the dragon so no wonder.

[dues201]

thought I had it,

[Ricky]

To me it looks like one of his rear spools hits, causing the rear tire to lose road contact.

[Slo]

You would think that he would have lost it long before one of his rear spools touches the ground especially with street tires....

[racedk6]

Looks like he over loaded the front with weight. He was putting alot of pressure on the front tire. Then add in the correction he tried making mid turn, with an abrupt movement.

[sloridr]

I'm thinking drug something. It looks like the back wheel picked up slightly?.

[tarded400]

No one said dropped a gear mid-corner.... Sure what it looks like to me.

[dues201]

Looks like he over loaded the front with weight. He was putting alot of pressure on the front tire. Then add in the correction he tried making mid turn, with an abrupt movement.

I'll buy this one.

[kawasakirob]

Looks like his peg hit and then his foot caught and jerked his foot off. From there it probably scared him and he locked the front brake. Really nice bike. I had the same thing happen to me(foot got caught and it almost.....almost wiped me out). I don't know why everyone is calling him a goober. He can already lean it over to touch the feelers. At least he is getting his pucks down when he wears them...........

[UglyDogRacing]

[racedk6]

Looks like his peg hit and then his foot caught and jerked his foot off. From there it probably scared him and he locked the front brake. Really nice bike. I had the same thing happen to me(foot got caught and it almost.....almost wiped me out). I don't know why everyone is calling him a goober. He can already lean it over to touch the feelers. At least he is getting his pucks down when he wears them...........

One you should never have to lean a bike to drag the pegs or feelers on the ground.

Two getting your knee down isnt always the fastest way around a corner. Bad body positioning is the cause of alot of crashes.

I dont understand why rider error is never the first explaination for a crash. I always tend to find people blaming the equipment before themselves.

[kawasakirob]

One you should never have to lean a bike to drag the pegs or feelers on the ground.

Two getting your knee down isnt always the fastest way around a corner. Bad body positioning is the cause of alot of crashes.

Why do you run rearsets? Why do racers wear sliders? The RC has some of the gnarliest peg feelers out there.I agree with sometimes having your knee down is not the fastest way around the corner(look at Rossi), I was pointing out that he had his gear and obviously felt comfy with his leanings, or until something happened. Rider error does play a massive error in wrecks(unless you were Hopkins or Kenny Jr. riding the GSVR awhile back). I never said it did not. Feet positioning, body positioning, whatever(look at spies positiong, Rossi's stature vs. Pedrosa?). GP guys drag hardparts, and I am damn sure they are better than you and I combined.

[kawasakirob]

Two getting your knee down isnt always the fastest way around a corner. Bad body positioning is the cause of alot of crashes.

Totally shitty body positioning

[racedk6]

Why do you run rearsets? Why do racers wear sliders? The RC has some of the gnarliest peg feelers out there.I agree with sometimes having your knee down is not the fastest way around the corner(look at Rossi), I was pointing out that he had his gear and obviously felt comfy with his leanings, or until something happened. Rider error does play a massive error in wrecks(unless you were Hopkins or Kenny Jr. riding the GSVR awhile back). I never said it did not. Feet positioning, body positioning, whatever(look at spies positiong, Rossi's stature vs. Pedrosa?). GP guys drag hardparts, and I am damn sure they are better than you and I combined.

I wasnt calling you out on not blaming it on rider error. It was a general comment.

I run aftermarket rearsets, because they are in a fixed position and offer cheaper replacement parts then stock ones do. Looking at any of my pics of me draggin knee through a turn I have plenty of room to be running stock ones with feelers on them. I am not a tall person what so ever so for me to put a knee down I have to actually lean the bike farther then most people, and yet I have still not drug any hard part.

I dont ever recall seeing a GP rider or SBK rider dragging hard parts. I used to see sparks coming from Bayliss's bike going through corners but that is his Ti toe sliders.

Also take into account GP riders get and ride on tires no average person can get. They are also running 16.5's for the most part. With 16.5's you get a bigger contact patch which allows for a higher lean angle. Their tires are also wider then anything most street riders would use as well.

[racedk6]

Totally shitty body positioning

and I can almost guarantee that is a titanium toe slider doing that.

[racedk6]

and say that was a peg dragging... how come he didnt crash because of it?

[kawasakirob]

Let's continue with some beers sometime.

[Bueller]

I don't understand why people compare body positioning with all the top racers? It isn't even close to any type of real life riding, apples and oranges

Please explain total shitty positioning comment


Sorry if this is someone here, but this is shitty positioning

[Slo]

Motogp, WSB, etc is not comparable in any way to this guy up in the Tail.....

+1 on what racedk6 said, I also have never dragged a hard part, scraped a curb feeler once, and in order for my knee to touch down, I do have to lean the bike over pretty far. Running aftermarket rearsets for me makes it easier to get my lazy A$$ off the seat from side to side as well.

Also, just because someone gets a knee down, doesn't mean they know how to ride, nor does it mean they are leaned far over. Many of us have followed someone on a track where the person in front was dragging knees (not lightly scraping) and the person behind was sitting up normal.

[Ganjagod]

Hey bueller, what do you think of the guy on the blue r1? http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forum...ad.php?t=30943

[Zach929rr]

Could someone provide example to good body position?

[UglyDogRacing]

Hey bueller, what do you think of the guy on the blue r1? Best pic on page 2 http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forum...ad.php?t=30943

If you mean this pic, it looks like the rider is trying too hard to get their legs and hips off the bike and put a knee down while their shoulder and head are still over top of the bike.

Could someone provide example to good body position?

another-

[UglyDogRacing]

Let's continue with some beers sometime.

Maybe you can get Grubbs to come pick you and your bike up that way the two of you will have plenty of time on the way to the track to debate this.

http://cosportbikeclub.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=32666

[Slo]

This definitely is not it... I will look for a pic someone posted a year or so ago on here. I can't find it, might be at home. It shows some examples of good and bad posture and why.....