republicans trying to keep the Dems from owning private biz

[Devaclis]

You want some GM stock? You could have it by next year.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...7_FORTUNE5.htm

[TFOGGuys]

Do I get the option to exchange my shares for a handful of Magic Beans™?

[King Nothing]

I'll just take a Chevy Malibu LTZ for my daily driver and a ZR1 for the weekends.

[Devaclis]

No, you get a Chevy Van with Moon Windows and shag carpet to haul your family around in. No more toys for the Daddy.

[Filo]

I guess I'll take it. I already paid for it, I might as well hold it. I'll swap my share for a clean, 04-06 R6. Anyone?

[Devaclis]

I guess I'll take it. I already paid for it, I might as well hold it. I'll swap my share for a clean, 04-06 R6. Anyone?

trade it for toilet paper because in Soviet America, there will be lines for that shit.

[Shea]

No, you get a Chevy Van with Moon Windows and shag carpet to haul your family around in.

For some reason that just screams "Doug".

[DFab]

Stupid dems, they got it backwards. It's private biz that's supposed to own government, not the other way around.

[TFOGGuys]

trade it for toilet paper because in Soviet America, there will be lines for that shit.

Maybe they'll just print the stock certificates on soft and absorbent paper, and save resources....

[Shea]

Stupid dems, they got it backwards. It's private biz that's supposed to own government, not the other way around.

Well Wall Street owns government, seems to be working out pretty well...

[Snowman]

So let me get this straight… The republican party thinks it can get more voters if it goes communist?

[Shea]

So let me get this straight… The republican party thinks it can get more voters if it goes communist?

Crazy mixed up world isn't it? Hear Spock is sportin' a goatee too...

[Mister BOYD]

I love Left wing/ Right wing mud slinging! HAHA!

[Devaclis]

I love buffalo wings.

[Filo]

Maybe they'll just print the stock certificates on soft and absorbent paper, and save resources....

Exactly. Every man, woman and child will get 300 stock certificates, in duplicate (2-ply) on a convenient holder roll. The rich will get 3 copies instead of 2, and their certificates will have decorative patters imprinted RIGHT ON THE PAPER!!!. For some unknown reason, each set of certificates will ship with a vial of blue liquid to show how quickly the stock can respond to accidents.

[~Barn~]

I love buffalo wings.

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[Wintermute]

Percent of companies owned by the gov't: .0507%. Five hundredths of a percent.

We're "socialist" or "communist" in the same way miniature golf is a major competitive sport.

[Shea]

Percent of companies owned by the gov't: .0507%. Five hundredths of a percent.

We're "socialist" or "communist" in the same way miniature golf is a major competitive sport.

Entirely misleading example. To equate GM or AIG to the little mom and pop coffee shop down the street from me is laughable.

And frankly .0507% of the businesses in this country is .0507% too much. Government has neither the authority, vested interest nor knowledge to run any company. But that's just the unhinged libertarian nazi in me I guess...

[Wintermute]

Misleading how?

As for your pronouncement as to the government's role in all this, well, that's your opinion. The facts on the ground are that our economy has a huge overcapacity problem (both in labor and idle production facilities), and letting the auto industry go under would have made it that much worse.

[Shea]

Misleading how?

As I stated. GM is a huge company, your position is that since it only "one" company it is not that big a deal.

As for your pronouncement as to the government's role in all this, well, that's your opinion. The facts on the ground are that our economy has a huge overcapacity problem (both in labor and idle production facilities), and letting the auto industry go under would have made it that much worse.

As it is yours that it is ok, or at least that you've come to accept it. The facts are that the government is taking unprecedented steps into controlling the economy, far beyond any powers granted to it by law or Constitution. Of course if you would like to show me where this power, authority or vested interest (in running a successful company) resides in our founding documents, please show me where my opinion is wrong.

The apologists of big government, such as yourself, tell us that we should all just let them do it for the sake of an unknown calamity that, should it allowed to come to pass (by doing nothing) would doom us all.

The excess capacity that you speak of exists because the market isn't allowed to correct. You are willing to give up your freedom for a little security. As I recall, Mr. Franklin had something to say about that.

[Wintermute]

I never stated "only 'one' company it is not that big a deal". My point is that people running around tearing their hair out and screaming "socialist" at the top of their lungs are wrong. Five hundredths of a percent isn't Socialism, and it sure as hell isn't Communism.

As for the "resides in our founding documents" point, lots of things we do as a country aren't in the "founding documents". We're an advanced industrial country of 300,000,000 people, not 13 agricultural-based 18th century colonies. Trying to manage a modern industrial country with only the tools afforded 250 years ago is misguided and wrong. You can't turn back the clock, especially since our global competitors are definitely not going to.

[MetaLord 9]

So let me get this straight… The republican party thinks it can get more voters if it goes communist?

They're going off of the "We Called Obama a Socialist & It Got Him Elected" plan to retake the...well anything I suppose.

[Snowman]

They're going off of the "We Called Obama a Socialist & It Got Him Elected" plan to retake the...well anything I suppose.

So you’re saying every politician is the closet communist…

[MetaLord 9]

So you’re saying every politician is the closet communist…

There's always Nader!