Cheap Web Hosting

[Zach929rr]

Wayyyyy too much e-penis is present in this discussion.

[LiQuIdAiR=OTB=]

I would be careful to speed into getting the most affordable web hosting solution. If you want personal advise send me a quick message. I work in the IT field and do my own hosting. I can give you some pointers.

[TFOGGuys]

Do you "love" that it takes their support 4-6 hours to clear an IP address out of a firewall?

That doesn't really happen, does it? Say, if you try to establish 30 FTP connections simultaneously?

[rforsythe]

What do you mean by clearing an IP address from a firewall? That statement by itself makes absolutely no sense to me (and I manage networks for a living).

Actually I am curious about that one too. Are you talking about making rule mods, or clearing out stale sessions or something?

[Player 2]

What do you mean by clearing an IP address from a firewall? That statement by itself makes absolutely no sense to me (and I manage networks for a living). And how, exactly, is their control panel archaic?

Makes perfect sense. They obviously have a software firewall scanning for failed logins, etc (I run them on my servers) and automatically blocks an IP address based on the ruleset (too many connections, too many failed login attempts, etc). It takes 5 seconds to clear the IP address from the firewall and MAYBE another 5 to restart it. Their support quoted 4+ hours for it to happen

Compare their hosting control panel to the industry standard (Cpanel) and you'll see why I call theirs archaic None of the others on the market compare (custom, Webmin, Plesk, etc)

If you want personal advise send me a quick message. I work in the IT field and do my own hosting. I can give you some pointers.

Why a PM? What can't you share publicly?

[LiQuIdAiR=OTB=]

Why a PM? What can't you share publicly?

It was a more friendly way of saying I can help. That's all. I did not want to sell. Just help. You'll sounded like you knew what you were talking about it.

[Player 2]

It was a more friendly way of saying I can help. That's all. I did not want to sell. Just help. You'll sounded like you knew what you were talking about it.

No worries, just wonder why people take things to PM when others could learn from what's posted

[LiQuIdAiR=OTB=]

No worries, just wonder why people take things to PM when others could learn from what's posted

It hurt me. You assumed. Say you're sorry.

[t_jolt]

Now Tyrel, if you can break it down for me why 1and1 is so great I'd love to hear what you have to say

Truthfully, i could care less how old something looks or is. It works for me and works well. I have never many issues with them, and when i did, they got fixed. They have treated me right, and for the price i pay (i jumped on thier band wagon a long time ago) its perfect for me. He asked for options, so i gave him one. And realisticly yeah it takes 4 hours for them to clear there firewall. Its like any other IT Dept under a workload. They have tens of Thousands upon tens of thousands of customers. Anyone for any company (unless thier a ceo ) who thinks that when they call and they have the only problem well . They probably have thousands of tickets that they have to work a day. a 4 hour turn around time for a i would say a teir 2 tech is not bad (i dont see teir one in firewalls, in my eyes) Hell a teir 1 problem in my company, has a 24 hour window.
You may need something more then what they have to offer, i dont. I dont see the need to spend an extra ten bucks a month, on an updated CP and other features that i dont use. Its not worth it to me. but thats just my .02

Besides jon what if i called you archaic?, you old bastard

[MetaLord 9]

Wayyyyy too much e-penis is present in this discussion.

Well the e-penis is directly attached to the WoW account...

[Player 2]

Truthfully, i could care less how old something looks or is. It works for me and works well. I have never many issues with them, and when i did, they got fixed. They have treated me right, and for the price i pay (i jumped on thier band wagon a long time ago) its perfect for me. He asked for options, so i gave him one. And realisticly yeah it takes 4 hours for them to clear there firewall. Its like any other IT Dept under a workload. They have tens of Thousands upon tens of thousands of customers. Anyone for any company (unless thier a ceo ) who thinks that when they call and they have the only problem well . They probably have thousands of tickets that they have to work a day. a 4 hour turn around time for a i would say a teir 2 tech is not bad (i dont see teir one in firewalls, in my eyes) Hell a teir 1 problem in my company, has a 24 hour window.
You may need something more then what they have to offer, i dont. I dont see the need to spend an extra ten bucks a month, on an updated CP and other features that i dont use. Its not worth it to me. but thats just my .02

So basically what you're saying here is that you're a fan boy... You don't know anything else so you "love" what you have

If they're that overworked they should hire more techs. If I had to wait 4-24 hours for assistance when I called the datacenter I'd be out of business. It's great to see you making excuses for their poor service though

[dm_gsxr]

I have 12 domains on a server hosted in a Server Pronto data center in Florida.

My picture site is there which has most of the traffic and Rita's Mosaic and Stained Glass Forum with almost 400 members. The other sites are for personal projects.

They have a configuration section with a decent selection of OSs you can have installed. Windows installations are a few bucks extra.

Once they get the OS installed, they send you the password and it's all yours.

I have bind (they're a free secondary DNS), apache, mysql, and sendmail running on an OpenBSD server. For a few extra bucks, I had them increase the RAM.

My original server was $30 a month. When we added the forums, the membership chipped in the extra money to improve the server. It doubled the monthly cost but it's covered by the members

About my only complaint is that they don't have ALOM capability. That would eliminate the need for techs to reboot the server every once in a while.

I do have the occasional problem with other service providers with regards to e-mail. Sites like shaw.ca refuse to accept e-mail from my server because it's a "bad net citizen". They don't have a white list and there's no way to ask to get off the black list of the site they're using to refuse e-mail. Since there's no information on what they think is wrong with my server, I have to believe it's because of a prior bad citizen that had the IP that I'm using now.

Now, if you have an important server, for $75 they will immediately respond to reboot the server. The forum membership knows that the site may bail from time to time. I open a general ticket and ask them for any information from the console and a reboot if needed. I always say "when you have a minute". And most of the time the reboot is done within an hour which is more than sufficient for my purposes

For domain purchasing, I'm using DynDNS.org, have been for years. I get notifications when one of my domains is going to expire. They tack the time on the end of the expiration vs from the date of payment (so it doesn't roll back, losing a month or two of hosting) and they've been around for a while.

Domains are $30 for two years and they're great for the home, DHCP user. I had my servers hosted at home initially which is how I got to DynDNS. I was with Network Solutions but they didn't support dynamic IPs.

ServerPronto just raised their rates, the first time since they opened their doors (well, according to their e-mail anyway) and certainly the first time since I started using them 3 or 4 years ago.

I like them. Yea, it's a bit on the pricy side. But the server stays up and they respond quickly. Even when I set up my DNS last year. I spent quite some time making sure my configuration was right. I set up a second server at home to act as secondary so I could make sure the right information was being transfered. When I was ready, the ServerPronto guys were quick to configure their server to accept zone transfers from me and I was on the 'net with my own name server in minutes.

Carl

[dm_gsxr]

I have a server stats page that I created for the server as well. It lets me see how things are going:

http://hobgoblinconsulting.com/remote/

Carl

[Player 2]

For domain purchasing, I'm using DynDNS.org, have been for years. I get notifications when one of my domains is going to expire. They tack the time on the end of the expiration vs from the date of payment (so it doesn't roll back, losing a month or two of hosting) and they've been around for a while.

Domains are $30 for two years and they're great for the home, DHCP user. I had my servers hosted at home initially which is how I got to DynDNS. I was with Network Solutions but they didn't support dynamic IPs.

That's crazy in this day and age that they're still charging $15/yr for domains. If you pay over $8-9/yr you're paying entirely too much. (since their cost is only ~$5/yr)

That's standard practice to extend the domain from the end of the expiration. I'd be surprised if any company is doing it differently.

[t_jolt]

So basically what you're saying here is that you're a fan boy... You don't know anything else so you "love" what you have

If they're that overworked they should hire more techs. If I had to wait 4-24 hours for assistance when I called the datacenter I'd be out of business. It's great to see you making excuses for their poor service though

No not at all, i've used other stuff. But like anything else in this life. Somethings i care about enough to pay the money for, others i dont. I dont need what other sites have to offer for the price. You dont like them, i do. Its cool you host your stuff, and make a living off of it, Thats cool. But just cause i like something you dont doesnt make what i have said any less valid. Its a choice everyone makes. and companies do what they can to stay profitiable. There are people like me who are ok with waiting and understand the polices and procedures of what it takes at a company of that many users, that doesnt bug me. There are others that dont, and Others that dont care and want it done ten minutes ago. I could call you bias and a fan boy of your own stuff. Cause your trying to make a sell, and potentionally many more, since i dont think most people on here knew you hosted. Remember, as with almost everything technology wise, just cause you dont like something doesnt make it bad, it makes it different.

[dm_gsxr]

That's crazy in this day and age that they're still charging $15/yr for domains. If you pay over $8-9/yr you're paying entirely too much. (since their cost is only ~$5/yr)

I guess it's momentum then. They were my DNS provider until last year and I never had a problem with my domains getting hijacked or disappearing from the 'net.

That's standard practice to extend the domain from the end of the expiration. I'd be surprised if any company is doing it differently.

Network Solutions wasn't doing it back when I was using them. I'd renew and it'd be renewed from the date of purchase.

Carl

[Player 2]

But just cause i like something you dont doesnt make what i have said any less valid. Its a choice everyone makes. and companies do what they can to stay profitiable. There are people like me who are ok with waiting and understand the polices and procedures of what it takes at a company of that many users, that doesnt bug me. There are others that dont, and Others that dont care and want it done ten minutes ago. I could call you bias and a fan boy of your own stuff. Cause your trying to make a sell, and potentionally many more, since i dont think most people on here knew you hosted. Remember, as with almost everything technology wise, just cause you dont like something doesnt make it bad, it makes it different.

Never said it wasn't valid but you never have really given good reasons why you'd recommend them aside from you've been with them sing "long ago" and you're patient enough to deal with their slow tech support.

Now here's where you're wrong. I'm not talking my hosting up. That's not what I'm trying to do here. I'm quite happy with my niche of clients I currently have. I do favors for people when they're in need otherwise. I'm not trying to make a sale (WTF is trying to make a sell?). I'm trying to inspire discussion, not just "I like it" or "it's good"

My experience with 1and1 doesn't make them bad but I never would recommend them. Their support is slow, their control panel is out dated and lacks features many users want these days.

Again I stress, you get what you pay for when it comes to hosting. If you want to pay $3-5/mo to host your hobby websites then 1and1 might be the place for you. If you're a bit more serious about your hosting then I'd never consider them.

I guess it's momentum then. They were my DNS provider until last year and I never had a problem with my domains getting hijacked or disappearing from the 'net.

Network Solutions wasn't doing it back when I was using them. I'd renew and it'd be renewed from the date of purchase.

Hijacking hasn't really been an issue for a couple of years now

Back in the day NetSuck Solutions could pretty much do what they wanted since they were just about the only place to register domains

[Ricky]

Makes perfect sense. They obviously have a software firewall scanning for failed logins, etc (I run them on my servers) and automatically blocks an IP address based on the ruleset (too many connections, too many failed login attempts, etc). It takes 5 seconds to clear the IP address from the firewall and MAYBE another 5 to restart it. Their support quoted 4+ hours for it to happen

That's something I've never encountered before.

[Ricky]

If they're that overworked they should hire more techs. If I had to wait 4-24 hours for assistance when I called the datacenter I'd be out of business. It's great to see you making excuses for their poor service though

There's a HUGE difference between a company/person that goes out and spends $5/mo for a simple hosting package, and someone that goes out and spends hundreds/month for better hosting and better response.

You don't pay 1and1 $5/mo for 30 second turnaround

[Pachuco]

I just got back into town. thank you for the advice.

[Jason ON]

FWIW, I've used Aplus.net in the past.

And a question from the peanut gallery, where's a good place to register the domain name?