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    $$ for IT fixit!!

    So, the world knows that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer and to prove it...

    I recently added a N-wireless router to our qwest DSL to get the xbox, laptop, and iphones some more speed. This sounded really good in theory... all the devices can see it, but cant access it. Its also showing as unlocked...

    So, I'm offering a little cash for someone who is smarter then I and can fix this for me in Greeley.
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    I wish I were closer to you, I would come over and sort it out. I'm sure you'll get a Northie though, who can help ya!

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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Contact TurboGizzmo and see if he's available.
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Most likely, your devices aren't Wireless-N compatible. Remember the 802.11B and G? B used to be slow so they came out with G, but your wireless card had to be compatible with the 802.11G, if not, you couldn't access it.

    I had the same thinking back at my old place when I bought an Wireless-N router. My laptop could access it, but my roommates' couldn't and since htey were paying for part of the internet, I had to go back to G. Besides, the only real way to give your devices more speed is upgrade from DSL to cable (if its available in your area).

    Think of it like this, water is flowing into a bucket at 1 gallon per second. The bucket does not hold any extra water and the outgoing hose is at the very bottom of the bucket (so whatever flows in just flows right out). You want the outflow to be faster, so you install a pipe that will allow 5 gallons per second to flow out. But, you still only have 1 gallon per second coming in with no reserve, so you haven't sped up the flow, just allowed for the future when the water comes in at 5 gallons per second (putting the N on a DSL lets you upgrade later to cable and really take advantage of the N)...at least that's my understanding. I find that G routers are very fast with cable.

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    Backwards compatibility is built into all modern routers. To CONNECT at N speeds, you need to have N capable devices at all ends. You can still connect to the device with a B or G device. It will just only transmit at those speeds.

    When you connect a device with a cable does it connect to the internet?
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    That makes sense... The laptop is an older mac, the xbox is a little older, but the Iphones are only 6 months old. None of these can access it. ????? We have a new MC desktop, that I didn't check, I will do it when I'm done being a slave for the tax man today

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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    Backwards compatibility is built into all modern routers. To CONNECT at N speeds, you need to have N capable devices at all ends. You can still connect to the device with a B or G device. It will just only transmit at those speeds.

    When you connect a device with a cable does it connect to the internet?

    No... its will only connect with the DSL wireless Router that I have to have... Is that the issue?????
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    If that is the case, the your new router is not getting DHCP information from the DSL
    modem.

    Turn off the DSL and the new router.

    Turn the DSL on and let it come all the way up.

    Turn the ROUTER on and let it come all the way up.

    Plug a computer into the router and see if it connects to the internet.
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    If you cant figure it out with the advice here shoot me a PM and I can try to make some time to swing by and check it out.
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    PM sent
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    Backwards compatibility is built into all modern routers. To CONNECT at N speeds, you need to have N capable devices at all ends. You can still connect to the device with a B or G device. It will just only transmit at those speeds.

    When you connect a device with a cable does it connect to the internet?
    that's what I thought when I bought mine, but ensuring it would also be backwards compatible wasn't enough as I couldn't get it to connect to their laptops for the life of me. even when using mac address filtering and no network password. I think there may be a hidden way to go about getting it to work.

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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    There are 2 problems to think about when troubleshooting wireless routers: (this is assuming you have ALL wireless security disabled. Make it as simple as possible)

    1. Is the router getting good IP info from the internet source? (Cable modem/DLS modem)

    2. Are the wireless devices getting good IP information from the Router?

    Devices CAN connect to a wireless router and still not be allowed to connect to the rest of the WAN (the internet in this case) Connection does not guarantee access.

    Look at the IP address of the devices that are connecting. They should be in the 192.168.x.x range. Also, are all of your devices setup with DHCP on the wireless connection? No hard coded IP information?
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Gray bird, I'm in thornton but happy to help. If you don't get it fixed, let me know and i'll drive up there and take a look see.

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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    Backwards compatibility is built into all modern routers. To CONNECT at N speeds, you need to have N capable devices at all ends. You can still connect to the device with a B or G device. It will just only transmit at those speeds.

    When you connect a device with a cable does it connect to the internet?
    Just to add to this, this is true unless you have changed the settings in the access point to allow N connections only (which gives better performance over mixed modes)
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Leah, I might just take you up on that!! I already sent turbo a PM. I will let you know. Thanks!!!
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    did the mac filter get turned on?, have you tried resetting the router again?

    i live about 30 minutes south of you, and i will be the 3rd to offer help to ride up there and help fix it
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    My "guess" here will be that both boxes are giving out the same DHCP IP range.....just my guess....
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Turbo is going to stop by tonight and fix it. Thanks for all the help! You guys are awsome!
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    what was wrong?
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Two routers the stock qwest one and the new N router fighting I assume...I didnt spend too much time troubleshooting the current setup, just reset the new router, let the qwest router continue to control DHCP, disable qwest router wireless, enable N wireless on new router, secured it, and then tested all his machines.
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    cool beans
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    Turbo... You Da Man!!!!!
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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    glad to hear you got it taken care of.

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    Re: $$ for IT fixit!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybird View Post
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    Nice to meet you, (and sit on your bike ) glad we got it worked out, let me know if you need anymore help!

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