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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Hayden has been under impressive this season. And for a couple seasons. Once you win a title, you can only go backwards.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Didn't know Factory teams couldn't sign rookie riders in MotoGP.

    If Lorenzo were smart, he would sign with Honda or stick it out with Yamaha. I doubt the Ducati would suit his riding style and he'll probably be crashing more than his rookie season.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    If Lorenzo goes to Ducati, he will go as the #1 rider, which is also bad for Stoner (if he even comes back). However, if he can't ride the Desmo, he is in deep shit come next year. It's best to beat the best on their own machinery and Yamaha clearly has the best bike in the paddock.

    Also, Honda is not interesting in bringing back Pedrosa if Puig is part of the deal, so there is another seat that may be up for grabs.

    The Marco and Marco show at Gresini should also prove interesting.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmgirl View Post
    Also, Honda is not interesting in bringing back Pedrosa if Puig is part of the deal, so there is another seat that may be up for grabs.

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    Didn't know Factory teams couldn't sign rookie riders in MotoGP.

    If Lorenzo were smart, he would sign with Honda or stick it out with Yamaha. I doubt the Ducati would suit his riding style and he'll probably be crashing more than his rookie season.
    If Spies wins the WSBK championship this year, he has the option to go to MotoGP w/ Yamaha (not Fiat). If he doesn't win it, he stays w/ Yamaha in WSBK 1 more year, then he has the option to move up to MotoGP.

    Honda already squashed the Lorenzo to HRC rumors by resigning Pedrosa and Dovizioso @ the Bruno round. I doubt he is even talking to Ducati, because during an interview, they said that Honda already signed the other 2, then he starts saying he's talking to Ducati now. I think he's just trying to get more money out of Yamaha by trying to make them think that he's leaving. But who knows.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    I doubt he is even talking to Ducati...
    According to MotoGPMatters, Lorenzo was spotted in late night "negotiations" at the Ducati hospitality suite at Brno...

    This was only made worse when representatives of Marlboro, Ducati and Jorge Lorenzo were seen in intense discussions in the Ducati hospitality over the weekend, raising speculation almost to fever pitch. (source)
    Maybe it's just BS and hype, but it sounds legit to me.

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Pedrosa and Dovizioso only have "basic agreements", not "signed contracts". Things can change, especially since the new prez of HRC doesn't like Puig. We'll see.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    MOTOGP »

    MotoGP 2010 - the grid so far


    Fiat Yamaha
    Currently: Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo
    2010: Valentino Rossi and ?

    MotoGP continues to wait for Jorge Lorenzo's decision. A Honda move was ruled out at Brno, making a new Yamaha contract seem inevitable, only for Ducati to step-in with a late big-money offer for the young Spaniard.

    Ducati Marlboro
    Currently: Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden
    2010: Casey Stoner and ?

    Casey Stoner has a contract for 2010, although his main priority at present is returning to full fitness. Ducati has first refusal on the services of Nicky Hayden, and seems keen to keep the American, but much will depend on what Lorenzo decides to do.

    Repsol Honda
    Currently: Dani Pedrosa and Andrea Dovizioso
    2010: ? and ?

    HRC has reached a 'basic agreement' with both Pedrosa and Dovizioso to stay for the next two years, although no contracts have yet been signed.

    Rizla Suzuki
    Currently: Loris Capirossi and Chris Vermeulen
    2010: Alvaro Bautista and ?

    Former 125cc world champion and 250GP title contender Alvaro Bautista has signed a two-year contract with Suzuki. Loris Capirossi looks set to join him, leaving no room for the GSV-R's only race winner Chris Vermeulen.

    Monster Yamaha Tech 3
    Currently: Colin Edwards and James Toseland
    2010: ? and ?

    The Tech 3 rides look to be the most hotly contested seats on the grid, with the likes of Ben Spies, Randy de Puniet, Chris Vermeulen, Mika Kallio and Toni Elias - as well as Edwards and Toseland - linked to the team for next season.

    As the leading satellite rider, Edwards has the results to justify a new deal, while Toseland must close the gap to his team-mate. No signings are expected until Lorenzo's decision has been made at the factory outfit.

    San Carlo Honda Gresini
    Currently: Toni Elias and Alex de Angelis
    2010: Marco Simoncelli and Marco Melandri

    The only two-rider team with its full 2010 rider line-up definitely in place is Gresini Honda, which has confirmed the return of Melandri to ride alongside reigning 250cc world champion Simoncelli next season. Melandri claims Simoncelli will have a factory RC212V.

    LCR Honda
    Currently: Randy de Puniet
    2010: ?

    Randy de Puniet has been one of the most improved riders in 2009 and is currently the leading satellite Honda rider with seventh in the championship. The Frenchman also took his first podium since 2007 with third place at Donington Park.

    Lucio Cecchinello will surely be aiming to hold on to de Puniet, although Randy's results this season are likely to open up opportunities at other teams. LCR could expand to a two-rider team.

    Hayate Racing Team
    Currently: Marco Melandri
    2010: ?

    Despite impressive results with Melandri, Kawasaki won't reverse its decision to leave MotoGP completely at the end of this season and, as such, the Hayate team is not expected to continue either.

    Pramac Racing
    Currently: Mika Kallio and Niccolo Canepa
    2010: ? and ?

    Ducati looks set to keep Mika Kallio on one of its machines next season, although the young Finn's results during his temporary promotion to the factory team in place of Stoner will go a long way to deciding just what kind of ride he is offered. Lorenzo's decision and Stoner's health will also have an impact on his options.

    Fellow rookie Canepa has had a solid, if unspectacular, season and could do with a stand-out performance. Elias could well be among the other options, with his two podiums for Pramac last year well above the best of eighth by Kallio and Canepa so far this year.

    Scot Racing
    Currently: Gabor Talmacsi
    2010: ?

    Drafted in to the Scot team at Catalunya after starting the year in the 250cc class, Gabor Talmacsi's Hungarian sponsors helped save the Scot team - at the expense of Yuki Takahashi - but other teams might also have an eye on his financial backing for 2010. Meanwhile, Scot's 250cc world championship leader Hiroshi Aoyama should finally make the move to MotoGP next season, presumably on Honda machinery.

    Aspar Ducati
    2010: Hector Barbera.

    125 and 250cc team owner Jorge Martinez 'Aspar' will effectively take over the fifth Ducati entry from Group Francisco Hernando next season. With his present 250GP star Bautista joining Suzuki, Aspar has signed fellow quarter-litre race winner Hector Barbera.

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Holy crap, that's crazy. I thought Hayden was doing...okay, considering it's his first season on the Desmo. I don't think it would be in Lorenzo's best interest. He would be cool so that he could be the primary rider for Ducati, but he's neck and neck with Rossi so often that he's going to get sick of looking at his exhaust and stay in front of him soon.

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Hayden has been under impressive this season. And for a couple seasons. Once you win a title, you can only go backwards.

    Someone should tell Rossi that.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Hayden has been under impressive this season. And for a couple seasons. Once you win a title, you can only go backwards.
    I disagree. I have not seen Rossi go backwards after winning his first title.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Is there a place online that shows past races? I would like to catch up.

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidofColorado View Post
    Is there a place online that shows past races? I would like to catch up.
    Are you going to Hooters on Friday for the calendar release? If you do, I could burn you a copy of the races so far.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    Are you going to Hooters on Friday for the calendar release? If you do, I could burn you a copy of the races so far.

    I would like a copy of that. No racing on tv at home. Let me know how $$$ for said copy.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by hcr25 View Post
    I would like a copy of that. No racing on tv at home. Let me know how $$$ for said copy.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    hell ya, sucks never getting to watch Moto GP or WSBK.
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    No problem. I'll go home at lunch and get it started.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    No problem. I'll go home at lunch and get it started.
    Can you burn a copy for me too please? I'll hook you with some DVD+R's!

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    Are you going to Hooters on Friday for the calendar release? If you do, I could burn you a copy of the races so far.
    Yes please. I will be there.

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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by JustSomeDude View Post
    Can you burn a copy for me too please? I'll hook you with some DVD+R's!


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidofColorado View Post
    Yes please. I will be there.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Motogp.com best race coverage and you can watch past races and interviews for a long while back.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Quote Originally Posted by badkarma View Post

    Not surprised if he would have gone to Duc it wouldn't have been a good idea.
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    Re: Lorenzo to Ducati?? Hayden out on his ass?!

    Lorenzo just signed with Yamaha through 2010 season

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