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    Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Looks like he is going to Moto GP in 2010 to be Edwards teammate on Monster Yamaha. I was surprised too after hearing he was staying in WSBK. Look out Rossi! Yamaha is going to dominate again.

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    I still dont believe its happening.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    spies wants too much money. he demanded 2mil from xerox ducati!

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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    He should have stayed in WSBK for another year and done some learning. He's still too sloppy and needs to get some more experience or he's going to get walked on in GP.

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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by angab View Post
    He should have stayed in WSBK for another year and done some learning. He's still too sloppy and needs to get some more experience or he's going to get walked on in GP.

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    Please explain too sloppy? What experience does he gain by blowing away the WSBK grid almost every weekend. You would think that he should barely have a chance at top 5 results being in countries he has never been and on a brand new bike, with a brand new team. But no, he is leading the championship as we speak. I want to know how someone that rides to sloppy still has the skill to take on the worlds best racers? I dont see the logic behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thaitanic View Post
    spies wants too much money. he demanded 2mil from xerox ducati!
    Haha yeah its weird to think that here in the USA a football player can get paid 4 times that, while only playing in 16 games and really only about 7 min of playing time a game..... crazy
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Okay, maybe sloppy is to harsh of a word, but he doesn't have the finesse (yet) as the gp riders. He still makes mistakes and I think to run at the top of GP (where he belongs) there isn't a whole lot of room for errors. He's great and I love his riding but I think it's a different level to be successful at GP. Even when he rode for Rizla last year he wasn't as clean as the other riders. Although he did place top ten in one of the races (I think).

    I would just hate to see happen to him, what happened to the guy he's replacing. I'm not trying to cut on the guy. I just think he'd be stronger in GP with a little more time under his belt. That's all.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    And by "I," I mean SHINYSIDEUP, who has been using my computer while I was at yoga.

    And PS, I would never confuse "to" with "too."
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Not to show off, but I talked to him at Miller about his riding this year. I mentioned he was in sort of a "win it or bin it mode" at the beginning and he agreed. If you notice, the crashing has gone down as have the dumb mistakes (like too little gas). I think he will do just fine in Moto GP and I don't know that he will benefit from another year on Superbikes. A superbike is more of a square-it-off-and-drive-out-hard cornering technique. MotoGP more and more favors flowing high corner speed techniques. I think that is why you see guys like Nicky H, with very little recent two stroke experience, struggling. If Ben can adapt his riding style (and lose 50 lbs and 2 ft of height), I think he will do very well.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by thaitanic View Post
    spies wants too much money. he demanded 2mil from xerox ducati!
    Which is less than 1/2 what he made in AMA.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by thaitanic View Post
    spies wants too much money. he demanded 2mil from xerox ducati!

    ducati probably doesnt think it was too much now that Spies has been kicking Haga's and Fabrizio's asses all season.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Filo View Post
    Not to show off, but I talked to him at Miller about his riding this year. I mentioned he was in sort of a "win it or bin it mode" at the beginning and he agreed. If you notice, the crashing has gone down as have the dumb mistakes (like too little gas). I think he will do just fine in Moto GP and I don't know that he will benefit from another year on Superbikes. A superbike is more of a square-it-off-and-drive-out-hard cornering technique. MotoGP more and more favors flowing high corner speed techniques. I think that is why you see guys like Nicky H, with very little recent two stroke experience, struggling. If Ben can adapt his riding style (and lose 50 lbs and 2 ft of height), I think he will do very well.
    He does have to adapt quite a bit, but the GP bikes have the most sophisticated electronics out of any race bike known to man. Shoot Spies him self has even said you just throw that thing into a turn and grab a hand full, then let the electronics sort out the rest.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    50lbs? 2ft? he is only 165 5'10. he is just lanky and looks like a monster cuz the other riders are midgets : P

    edit: sorry 160, 5'11 : P

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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by cromer611 View Post
    50lbs? 2ft? he is only 165 5'10. he is just lanky and looks like a monster cuz the other riders are midgets : P
    My point exactly. Dani is like 4'6" 100lbs. So Ben needs to lose 1'4" and 65lbs to keep up. My 10 year old son is almost as big as Dani is.

    Edit - I looked it up. Dani is 5'2, 112lbs
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    I dont think he will be in the GP next year. 2011 for sure but not next year.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Maybe?

    "... straight swap with Tech3's James Toseland"

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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    With 2 more tracks remaining and 4 races, hopefully Ben can get the championship lead back from Haga. In a recent interview, Spies said since racing Mladin, the WSBK championship is more easy, coming from a mental aspect. Hopefully he will not eat those words later on in the last couple races of the season. It would be great to see him in GP, but it would also be interesting to see him next year in WSBK. With simoncelli finishing 2nd at Imola, it will be interesting to see as well how he does in GP. No matter what class Ben goes into next year, there will be some kick ass racing in both of those series.
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    Just hope Spies does not get to cocky and starts deminishing
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Exciting stuff!
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    I'd rather see Ben stay in WSBK regardless of the result, and maybe team up with Leon Camier from BSB on the Yamahas. I've been watching Camier since his Animal Bike Honda days and damn he's crazy fast. He's blown away the field much like Spies in AMA and he's already on a 2009 R1, so he'd be a perfect fit with Spies.

    I hope my countryman Haga can pull it off, but I still have mixed feelings of him on the Duc rather than on a Yamaha.

    I'm liking the RSV4 more and more. Damn it's a sexy bike... Hopefully they toss Nakano for a better rider that can compete up front.
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Just saw a Facebook update from MotoGP (so it must be true) that Spies and Edwards are running Tech 3. Why is there all this Drama and mystery? Is it over negotiations? Does WSBK not want to let him go?

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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    Dang... so it's official now.

    Good for Spies and best of luck... Hopefully they draft in Camier for his spot on the WSBK Yamaha!
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    Re: Spies to Moto GP in 2010

    I wonder if Toseland will go back to WSBK?

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