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    Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Long story short, I am creating a backup server our system. I seek help since I know there have to be some of you out there that do this day in and out. I know enough to get by, but would like some advice where I can grab it.

    System is a generic HP Compaq on a HP-2820h MoBo below a Pentium E2180 running XP Pro on 2g ram.
    I would like to go RAID-5 (for "triple redundancy") with 4 500GB WD or Sammy drives (Essentially providing 3TB of usable space and an array which can be rebuilt when 1 drive fails, no?). These backups are to hold information that is imperative should an audit happen by the Overseers.

    Had been looking at Adaptec raid controllers, but this is the main area I need advice.

    School me.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    DID SOMEONE SAY NERD?!?

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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Jesus, at least give me a few productive replies before you imagejack.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    How often will these files be read / written to?
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Planning on 2 x monthly, possibly 4 x monthly.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    will you be needing 3TB? or will you be using less?
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Whoops. 3TB is a misprint. I meant 500gb drives. Only using 60ish and the DB will continue to grow daily.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    I won't profess to be an expert with raid, but you might look into raid 10, or even 2 sets of raid 1, that way you could keep the two previous backups and alternate (in case something went terribly wrong during one of the backups).
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    I didn't really consider 10 or 1, since redundancy is my objective more than speed.
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    Stripe that shit.

    RAID 0 man, do it.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach929rr View Post
    I would like to go RAID-5 (for "triple redundancy") with 4 500GB WD or Sammy drives (Essentially providing 3TB of usable space and an array which can be rebuilt when 1 drive fails, no?).
    4x500GB gives you 2TB, minus a drive for parity, so you get 1.5TB out of that array. If you used 4x1TB drives you would get about 3TB usable from a RAID5.

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    Stripe that shit.

    RAID 0 man, do it.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Yeah, if you only need 60ish GB and it won't be growing to 500GB anytime soon, I'd go RAID0 with 3 disks, so you'd have two easily read backups. If you want more space, then with 4 disks RAID5 is probably the way to go. For super critical things, I like to do RAID6 so you can take a second drive loss during the rebuild of a first failure.

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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by dirkterrell View Post
    Yeah, if you only need 60ish GB and it won't be growing to 500GB anytime soon, I'd go RAID0 with 3 disks, so you'd have two easily read backups. If you want more space, then with 4 disks RAID5 is probably the way to go. For super critical things, I like to do RAID6 so you can take a second drive loss during the rebuild of a first failure.

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    Are you looking for advice on which raidset to go with? or which controller to use?

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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    I do need advice on the particular raid controller to choose as well. This isn't out of my pocket, so quality & reliability > price.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    As Dirk stated above, I use RAID6 for servers where I need an extra layer of redundancy. We mostly use Dell PERCs.

    For your situation, look at the 3ware red hot.

    http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wf

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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Panman06 View Post
    As Dirk stated above, I use RAID6 for servers where I need an extra layer of redundancy. We mostly use Dell PERCs.

    For your situation, look at the 3ware red hot.

    http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wf
    Good deal. That happens to be the specific brand and model I was looking at in the first place, so I'm not totally off base. I was just concerned with compatibility issues on a "workstation" mobo, although after reading newegg reviews there seemed to be quite a few people running the 9650SE series on machines that weren't "officially supported" by 3ware. I guess I could just give it a shot and worse-to-worse I return to newegg for credit.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Sorry no nerds here.
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    Sorry no nerds here.
    I beg to differ.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    I don't know much about raid drives. But since you stood me up I think you should back up using floppies. You can't go wrong with them.
    So your looking to back up the same info on 4 separate drives just for redundancy, redundancy?

    I don't know but I think you came to the right place.
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    Re: Requesting Nerd Help - Raid Controller Selection and Drive Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidofColorado View Post
    I don't know much about raid drives. But since you stood me up I think you should back up using floppies. You can't go wrong with them.
    So your looking to back up the same info on 4 separate drives just for redundancy, redundancy?

    I don't know but I think you came to the right place.
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    I don't have kitty pics but this one seams equally irrelevant.
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    Raid 1 with a couple of WD 300GB Velocipators...speed and reliability
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