Someone was thinking!!!

[t_jolt]

Hackers just like the PC more.


Regardless of which side you're on (though as a true computing enthusiast, you shouldn't be taking sides), you've heard the arguments back and forth on the which operating system is truly safer – Mac OS X or Windows.
It is of the opinion of Charlie Miller, a well known Mac security guru, that even Snow Leopard, the latest version of Mac OS X, isn't as safe as Windows.
One key point is that Snow Leopard still doesn't have ASLR, or address space layout randomization, which randomly arranges the position of key data making it harder for hackers to target for exploits.
Miller said to TechWorld that Apple didn't change the ASLR from 10.5 to 10.6: "Apple didn't change anything. It's the exact same ASLR as in Leopard, which means it's not very good."
Apple didn’t completely missed the chance to tighten up security in Snow Leopard though, as the new QuickTime solves a lot of the issues that Mac OS X had before.
"Apple rewrote a bunch of QuickTime," said Miller, "which was really smart, since it's been the source of lots of bugs in the past."
One thing that Snow Leopard did adapt, which Windows has had since XP SP2, is DEP (data execution prevention). With DEP, buffer overflow attacks are much harder to execute.
Despite Miller's opinion that Windows is the more secure OS, the large install based of Microsoft-based systems make them a much more attractive target for hackers. Still, Miller would like to see security on all platforms.
"Snow Leopard's more secure than Leopard, but it's not as secure as Vista or Windows 7," he said. "When Apple has both [in place], that's when I'll stop complaining about Apple's security."

[sugarrey]

I just searched the same thing and saw an answer that led me to believe otherwise: is mac os more secure than windows and I got an answer that said the exact opposite. Basically in the article it talks about mac not having to be as secure (virus/spam/malware) because there are no apparent threats. Microsoft has better security because there are MORE security risks out there attacking it, makes sense!

As the mac gets more mainstream things will change I am sure. Like I said, I am sure there are arguments both ways.

[Zach929rr]

Would you two put your edicks away.

[LambeauXLIV]

I'm sorry...but I just can't take you seriously with that avatar

[Zach929rr]

ok mr.xkcd

[LambeauXLIV]

Yours just cracks me up

[Sean]

They both play porn the same. Null argument.

Wow, a chance to dig in on Mac's and you didn't take it! Are you feeling okay?

[Zach929rr]

Sean, you know if it was you OP'ing this thread, I would have been all over it with "Max r 4 fagz" and "Underwater Basket Weaving, PhD"

[Sean]

Nope, looks like you are feeling a-okay.

btw, don't like the software; to controlling.

[sugarrey]

Nope, looks like you are feeling a-okay.

btw, don't like the software; to controlling.

to controlling? never heard that before. in what way?

[Sean]

to controlling? never heard that before. in what way?

Seriously? Screen shots, locating the laptop within 20 yards of location, transmitting pics from the camera, displaying messages on the screen, not letting you format the hard drive. All of this is great IF the laptop is stolen. But who says information isn't being gathered all of the time. The program gives a moderator complete access and control to your computer. Who is getting this information? As someone said above, a little to "big Brother" for my taste.

[Zach929rr]

.

As someone said above, a little to "big Brother" for my taste.

a little to "big Brother" for my taste.

to "big Brother"

to

[Sean]

All of that for a small grammatical error? You need to get out more Zach.

[Zach929rr]

I just enjoy busting your chops that much.

[DorJammer]

Trolling sucess rating 9/10!

[Sean]

Trolling sucess rating 9/10!

[sugarrey]

Seriously? Screen shots, locating the laptop within 20 yards of location, transmitting pics from the camera, displaying messages on the screen, not letting you format the hard drive. All of this is great IF the laptop is stolen. But who says information isn't being gathered all of the time. The program gives a moderator complete access and control to your computer. Who is getting this information? As someone said above, a little to "big Brother" for my taste.

Ohh, I got ya. I thought you were talking about mac operating system or the mac in general.

I hear ya.

[DorJammer]

do not feel bad... the only way to get a ten out of ten is to get a Linux geek involved...

this is the oldest troll in the books

[Sean]

Ohh, I got ya. I thought you were talking about mac operating system or the mac in general.

Nope, I love the Mac OS.

do not feel bad... the only way to get a ten out of ten is to get a Linux geek involved...

this is the oldest troll in the books

And again... No idea what you're talking about. No need to try and explain.

[Zach929rr]

Nope, I love the Mac OS.

And again... No idea what you're talking about. No need to try and explain.

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He saying that the MacvPc debate is always troll worthy, even if Jeff didn't know he was trolling, and the only way for it to get better would be for a linux guy to join the pissing match. Make sense?

[LambeauXLIV]

I think I mentioned linux...

[Zach929rr]

I think I mentioned linux...

Briefly, but you did not come with enough force young grasshoppa.

[LambeauXLIV]

LINUXISTHEMUTEHRFUCKINGBEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEONEWHODOESNTUSEITISANOOOOOOOOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

better?

[Zach929rr]

You are progressing nicely.

Gooooooooooooooood.