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    So after hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer money, thousands of tons of carbon being dumped in the atmosphere and the most powerful man in the world NOT DOING HIS FLIPPING JOB....Obama failed.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091002/...l/oly2016_bids

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    Re: Chicago 2016

    Bombs in Madrid

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    $100 million is what they are estimating the entire campaign cost.

    If they had a child killing competition in the Olympics, Chi town would be at the top of the list.
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    Stunned! I really thought that the Obamas wouldn't go unless it was already a done deal. Wow....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_Ninja View Post
    Bombs in Madrid

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    The Dakar > The Olympics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    The Dakar > The Olympics
    Yeppers
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    I guess they didn't want Gangmember beatings as a new event.
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    Rio just got it. Yay! Kidnappings, whores, and filth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    Rio just got it. Yay! Kidnappings, whores, and filth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaclis View Post
    Rio just got it. Yay! Kidnappings, whores, and filth!
    So... really, add some 2X4 beatings and you have Chicago?!
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    We are all going to be dead in 2012... party like it is 1999 now... LOL

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    Shea, I'm sure you'll say now that you condemned Bush when he spent 4 days watching the Olympics in China. Uhh-huhh.

    With a payoff of tens of billions, an investment of 100 million ain't shit.

    Chicago lost weeks ago, because:
    a. We get a lot of the Olympics.
    b. South America has never had the Olympics.
    c. It's harder to get into the US since 9/11. (Right or not, it was a factor from what I heard.)

    Obama was asked to go as a last-ditch effort by the Chicago committee. They knew it was a long shot, and Obama knew it was too. That's why he didn't want to go, because when they inevitably didn't get it, the pile-on commenced. It's pretty disgusting how gleeful the right is that the U.S. lost out on billions worth of jobs and commerce.

    Pigboy Limbaugh:
    LIMBAUGH: For those of you on the other side of the aisle listening in who are upset that I sound gleeful -- I am. I don't deny it. I'm happy. Anything that gets in the way of Barack Obama accomplishing his domestic agenda is fine with me.
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    We've come from "USA! USA! USA!" to this horseshit.

    And way to condemn a great American city of 8 million people because of one incident, guys. I guess Columbine should define Denver, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    Shea, I'm sure you'll say now that you condemned Bush when he spent 4 days watching the Olympics in China. Uhh-huhh.

    With a payoff of tens of billions, an investment of 100 million ain't shit.
    Interesting reading:

    http://www.econ.queensu.ca/working_p...ed_wp_1097.pdf

    As we see from Table 5 above, even the most generous measure of net benefit ofthe Olympics – Event Benefits minus Event Costs – is negative (-$101m), although by a lesser amount than was anticipated at the beginning of the project. This figure is “helped” by fully evaluating the extra surplus from the spectacle and the Halo.

    However, there are a number of factors which push the actual net benefit of this much-celebrated project even further into the red. The first, of course, are the infrastructure costs discussed in section 1. While this paper did not rigorously assess these, a casual perusal of the Infrastructure Costs and the non-Olympic Infrastructure Benefits which might be expected reveals that the net contribution of Infrastructure to the Olympic “bottom line” will be negative by hundreds of millions of dollars. While these costs are obvious, the standard counter-argument is that they will be offset by the “economic impact” of the Games. However, section 4 of this paper revealed that “economic impact”, when correctly accounted for, is not nearly as large as is generally assumed. When combined with the substantial upside risks inherent in costs of public works projects48, the expected overall net benefit of hosting an Olympic Games is substantially negative.
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    Is Obama even a US citizen yet?
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    Dirk, I'm not going to argue the minutiae of some random guy's Master's Thesis. Experience has shown that most Olympics have been economic wins. (Montreal was notably not.)

    This country needs jobs and the Olympics would have provided some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    Dirk, I'm not going to argue the minutiae of some random guy's Master's Thesis. Experience has shown that most Olympics have been economic wins. (Montreal was notably not.)

    This country needs jobs and the Olympics would have provided some.

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    If the Chicago Olympic Committee wanted to get Rio out of the way, all they had to do was show a video of "City of God"

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/

    Based on a true story. And very disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    It's pretty disgusting how gleeful the right is that the U.S. lost out on billions worth of jobs and commerce.
    ...We've come from "USA! USA! USA!" to this horseshit.

    And way to condemn a great American city of 8 million people because of one incident, guys. I guess Columbine should define Denver, huh?
    It's equally disgusting as it was when the Democrats carried on in the same manner of opposition to anything President Bush did during his term in office. Both sides are guilty and no one gets off the hook for it.


    While the Olympics would have brought several jobs to the country, if that was the main motivation then why wasn't Detroit an option? Part of the reason that Chicago implored President Obama to represent them afar is that he is their former senator. I'm wondering how much that fact alone was behind Chicago's push to host another Olympics. An infusion of jobs is much needed in this country, but increasing debt to buy a few temporary jobs is not going to be a long term solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    Dirk, I'm not going to argue the minutiae of some random guy's Master's Thesis.
    Yeah, it's much easier just to pronounce the world to be the way you want it to be, no? If there's a flaw in the paper, point it out.

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    Experience has shown that most Olympics have been economic wins.
    Show me the analysis.

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    This country needs jobs and the Olympics would have provided some.
    Yeah, but it needs real jobs not parasitic jobs "created" with taxes.

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    The best thing that Colorado ever turned down ---- 1972 Winter games you think I-70's bad now .................

    http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...012stone.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    Shea, I'm sure you'll say now that you condemned Bush when he spent 4 days watching the Olympics in China. Uhh-huhh.
    So your argument is that regardless of my position on the former administrations Olympic trip, I have no standing to question Obama? Is that it?

    With a payoff of tens of billions, an investment of 100 million ain't shit.
    Tens of billions? Show me where you get that figure?

    Chicago lost weeks ago, because:
    a. We get a lot of the Olympics.
    b. South America has never had the Olympics.
    c. It's harder to get into the US since 9/11. (Right or not, it was a factor from what I heard.)
    So we spent how much money for him and his wife to fly there for no reason? Well I want that money paid back.

    Obama was asked to go as a last-ditch effort by the Chicago committee. They knew it was a long shot, and Obama knew it was too. That's why he didn't want to go, because when they inevitably didn't get it, the pile-on commenced. It's pretty disgusting how gleeful the right is that the U.S. lost out on billions worth of jobs and commerce.
    So Obama was just an innocent bystander, who against his will, was forced to go there on a mission he just KNEW was going to fail. Wow...

    And way to condemn a great American city of 8 million people because of one incident, guys. I guess Columbine should define Denver, huh?
    I'm sorry where did I condemn a great American city Wintermute? Or are you just using yet another strawman argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_Ninja View Post
    The best thing that Colorado ever turned down ---- 1972 Winter games you think I-70's bad now .................

    http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...012stone.shtml
    Good Story - they would have had to make the I-70 this wide!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkterrell View Post
    Yeah, it's much easier just to pronounce the world to be the way you want it to be, no? If there's a flaw in the paper, point it out.
    I'm not going to grade some Australian's Master's Thesis forecasting that an Olympics that hasn't happened will lose money. I don't give a shit if he gets his degree. For all I know he's a gibbering idiot.

    Show me the analysis.
    Isn't the fact that cities spend hundreds of millions competing for the Olympics is proof in and of itself that they're a good investment? Since what you really want to do is play the "The libtard link you supply is biased, here's my rightard source" game, let me introduce you to Google.

    Yeah, but it needs real jobs not parasitic jobs "created" with taxes.
    Most of the Olympics are paid for by private funds. Chicago would have paid for overruns. (Which would certainly happen.)

    As for your disdain for jobs created with taxes, you know what one of the biggest CCC projects in the country was back in the day? Red Rocks. So if you're really, truly against parasitic jobs created with taxes, you better never go to another show up there or be branded a hypocrite.
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