I <3 lane sharing.
I <3 lane sharing.
Lane splitting is survivable.
There, I said it.
I never have and wouldn't:
lane split
lane share
pass in the breakdown lane
pass on a double yellow
speed
filter
wheelie
stoppie
back it in
crash
ride without mirrors
ride a dirty bike
ride on the sidewalk
ride on peoples lawns
ride on a golf course
Last edited by Zach929rr; Thu Jun 23rd, 2011 at 09:12 AM.
KX65
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Originally Posted by Zach929rr
Yep, I got a motorcycle for the gas mileage and safety features.
Doesn't matter how many laws you break, the point of the OP is that he wants to make it Legal to do it--and that's never happening.
Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.
~Hunter S. Thompson
The people willing to do it probably don't care that it's illegal.
WrongThe people willing to do it probably don't care that it's illegal.
First, why would you subscribe so heavily to an idea that several very experienced riders insist is a bad, bad course of action? Every time I've come to the CSC looking for good advice, I've found it. (Dana's insistence on going stunting after downing 15 jello shots not-withstanding) Listen to these guys.
Second, if you really insist on travelling this path, drop California out of all your arguments. Just because it supposedly works there doesn't mean it can here, and I think you hurt your case every time you mention the "C" word.
Alot of native coloradoans actually have a deep seated animosity towards everything Californian or Texan. We blame them for moving into our state in droves during the nineties, congesting the roads, ballooning the brown cloud over the city and driving the cost of everything up.
Back in the seventies, Colorado had a chance to compete to host the winter Olympics here. A public referendum failed to pass because we wanted to avoid the influx of people and problems into our state. Years later, mayor Pena and Gov Romer finally got enough of a kickback from the tech industry that they sold us out, made deals to attract Californian and Texan tech companies to relocate here, built an airport we didn't need (and voted against), and since then, we've watched our cost of living skyrocket while our standard of living has, on average, gotten worse.
Oh and... Before all these pricks moved into our state, there was no need for lane splitting. A bad traffic jam was one that slowed you down for 10-15 minutes. Now that's just an average commute into the city on any weekday morning.
You want ease congestion and make the road safer? Make the D.L. requirements/testing harder.
89 EX500 RIP
06 R6S RIP
03 R6
When I was talking to the Senator I know, he was a bit dubious of my reasoning on double yellow passes. I think if it's ok for cars to cross the double yellow to go around bicycles, then it is no less safe for a motorcycle to go around a pack of Harley's or a motorhome in the canyons when they are traveling under the speed limit and there is enough room for the second or two I need to pass.
That said, he did seem open to the idea of lane sharing, but only if motorcyclists generally would support the idea. It's kind of like allowing home modification of semiautomatic weapons for full-auto use. Why should the politician waste his time if gun owners themselves couldn't even support the idea. I'm not using the metaphor too literally, so don't go all evil on me. It's just the point that we, the cyclists can't even agree on a COMMON SENSE idea.
Illegitimi non carborundum
'03 Honda vtr1000f Super Hawk
'07 Honda XR650L
You're absolutely right.
It's illegal.
Not a lot of people do it.
If you do it, you don't fucking tell people about it.
It's liable to get you injured or worse.
FWIW I ride how I like, regardless of the laws. inb4 Chris's "zomg you think you are above ze law!?"
KX65
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Illegitimi non carborundum
'03 Honda vtr1000f Super Hawk
'07 Honda XR650L
Instead of wasting time on this, I vote we investigate why so many people on this board start their name with "Slo".
KX65
Dizzer
929 - Yard Sale'd
Lack of creativity at the instant of submitting a screen name, I guess! I think I'll go ride my bicycle.
Illegitimi non carborundum
'03 Honda vtr1000f Super Hawk
'07 Honda XR650L
Back to wasting my life away writing regulatory compliance documents for FERC.
KX65
Dizzer
929 - Yard Sale'd
As a few of you have said, this is an issue we have looked into before..actually for several years. It won't pass in Colorado. Colorado Legislature does not want CO like CA. HOG riders would most definitely be interested in lane sharing because their bikes overheat in traffic. CO drivers would make sure you didn't pass them. One thing all of us need to remember, be careful what we ask for. Lane sharing will open up a can of worms for a plethora of laws placed on motorcyclists. Helmet law being number one, emissions testing, banning of after-market pipes, and an increase in taxes to pay for LEO's to uphold all the laws. While I am not opposed to wearing a helmet, I am sick and tired of the Government telling me how to live my life. On a personal note...a few years ago I was on my way back from a ride up to Breckenridge, a ton of bikes out that day, and most of you know what I-70 looks like on a Sunday afternoon. One guy decided to lane share...he made it past 5 cars. The 6th car opened his door on the motorcyclist, he did not hit the bike because the rider swerved...however, the rider hit another car. There wasn't much damage done and the rider was ok. Police did not issue any tickets. I am not sure why one wasn't issued, but I feel the driver that opened his door should have been ticketed. There are no solid arguments to a Legislator why this is a good idea.
Terry
Wise words IMO.
I was just noticing that...
Or we could just send all Californians and Texans back where they came from?
Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.
~Hunter S. Thompson
This is probably the best advice here.
Lane splitting belongs in the same realm as DYP's and highly spirited (above the limit) riding. Do it at your own risk to life, limb, property and wallet. and don't get caught.
89 EX500 RIP
06 R6S RIP
03 R6
A friend pointed out that states with lane splitting also always have helmet laws. I do NOT favor helmet laws. I always wear my helmet on street bikes... but I also like to be able to ride my tiny little street legal dirt bikes to do errands in town (Nederland) without a helmet. Should be my choice. I respect your/my right to be a danger to your/my own stupid self.
Culturally americans don't like to be passed... and so people will invariably resent lane splitters... creating danger. Europe and Japan are clearly different... many more motorcyclists and people let you pass. Those countries also enforce much higher driving standards... you can be ticketed just for drinking a coffee while driving... so drivers are attentive.
So probably best left the way it is. We still have rednecks in colorado
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Well yeah, ideally...
... but I also try to be a realist.
89 EX500 RIP
06 R6S RIP
03 R6
I'm 100% in favor of lane sharing, and making it LEGAL with limits on top speed and differential speed so a LEO could give a ticket to some asshole recklessly doing it. There's no reason not to. If it's done in a safe manner, it eases trafic congestion and lowers pollution. The caging public will need to have stiff fines and penalties for doing shit like opening doors on motorcyclists, blocking the lane, using their car as a weapon, etc.
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-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Never say never. I never thought weed would be on the way to legalization.
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
Maybe it isn't really a common sense idea then, by definition.
89 EX500 RIP
06 R6S RIP
03 R6
And that's the point, to have a legal option for it. Lol, just because the speed limit says 35mph doesn't mean you have to drive 35mph, it just means you're not allowed to drive FASTER than 35mph.....
Yea, me too.
- I needed that!
Brilliant!
Lol, I guess some of us still have faith in the foundations of this country, and some of us have given up and are willing to acquiesce to others instructions. Somehow, eventually, I think we're all going to end up in the second group, eventually. The BS is just gonna get too thick. Let the pussification of America continue...
Respect and truth trump all!
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