I favor Lane Sharing in Colorado

[Ghosty]

Have you noticed that 90% of morons, I mean drivers here are ON THEIR CELLPHONE CONSTANTLY? It's scary, they're seriously carrying on ENTIRE CONVERSTATIONS while driving, highway OR city. Eff white-lining, no thanks!

Use a headset or speakerphone at least idiots, PLEASE!

[Ghost]

I totally agree with you, Terry!

I agree as well, but most cops don't--I got a warning and almost a ticket for doing it on the I-70 East out of the mountains when it all cluster-fucks to a halt.

[Jmetz]

Colorado drivers are too stupid to handle lane-sharing, they'd kill a motorcyclist everyday I'm sure. I'm afraid to test the waters. They're all idiots out there.

I concur. Plus a lot of people have the "you shall not pass" complex. Last time I tried skirting traffic on the shoulder I had someone swing a car door open trying to hit me and others pulling on to the shoulder to try to stop me from getting by. Even if it were legalized I probably wouldn't do it most of the time.

[Ghosty]

I concur. Plus a lot of people have the "you shall not pass" complex. Last time I tried skirting traffic on the shoulder I had someone swing a car door open trying to hit me and others pulling on to the shoulder to try to stop me from getting by. Even if it were legalized I probably wouldn't do it most of the time.

Totally, even in my truck, people have that attitude 50% of the time. The other 50% (us NICE courtous non-retard drivers) let you merge. But the moron 50% all speed up, even if there is room in front for you to get in.

Now imagine that douchebag 50% seeing some (already-hated) crotch rocket about to pass them 3" from their drivers door? They'll probably open their door or try to shoot you, who knows.

[The GECCO]

I didn't wade through the last five pages, but here's my primary reason to object to lane-sharing:

THE AVERAGE COLORADO DRIVER IS A COMPLETE MORON!

I didn't wade through it either.

That being said, your above state reason sounds to me like a good reason for YOU to not do it. Doesn't sound like a good reason for you to favor restricting other adults ability to do it.

If lane sharing were legal, some people would, and some wouldn't. Why shouldn't we have the choice? Isn't this essentially the same argument that is made every time the topic of mandatory helmet use comes up? Right now it's legal to ride w/o a helmet. I never do, but the freedom to make the choice about taking on the additional risk of riding w/o a helmet is a great thing. Why shouldn't I have the ability to make that same choice about taking on the additional risk of lane sharing?

[Ghost]

I didn't wade through it either.

That being said, your above state reason sounds to me like a good reason for YOU to not do it. Doesn't sound like a good reason for you to favor restricting other adults ability to do it.

If lane sharing were legal, some people would, and some wouldn't. Why shouldn't we have the choice? Isn't this essentially the same argument that is made every time the topic of mandatory helmet use comes up? Right now it's legal to ride w/o a helmet. I never do, but the freedom to make the choice about taking on the additional risk of riding w/o a helmet is a great thing. Why shouldn't I have the ability to make that same choice about taking on the additional risk of lane sharing?

I'd do it on certain occasions--mainly when traffic is gridlocked and I could slip through.

But, I wouldn't do it when other vehicles were moving since, as CZ points out, most drivers in CO are completely useless and will kill you now, let alone when you're passing them in their blindspots.

Still, I think it should be legal since I dislike prohibitions for no good reason.

However, I doubt it'll ever matter since no one will push this through, nor fund any bill for it, etc.

We may as well be arguing over whether there ought to be Tiered Licenses and Autobahn lanes on highways--all great ideas that will never matter or come to reality.

[grim]

I'd do it on certain occasions--mainly when traffic is gridlocked and I could slip through.

But, I wouldn't do it when other vehicles were moving since, as CZ points out, most drivers in CO are completely useless and will kill you now, let alone when you're passing them in their blindspots.

Still, I think it should be legal since I dislike prohibitions for no good reason.

However, I doubt it'll ever matter since no one will push this through, nor fund any bill for it, etc.

We may as well be arguing over whether there ought to be Tiered Licenses and Autobahn lanes on highways--all great ideas that will never matter or come to reality.

Hey kind of like you getting to taste some grim cookies .

[Ghost]

Hey kind of like you getting to taste some grim cookies .

Apparently I just have to go buy a pack at Safeway, so they somehow seem far less special now...

Of course, I guess those aren't "Grim Cookies" since you didn't heat them up in the oven for me.

[grim]

Apparently I just have to go buy a pack at Safeway, so they somehow seem far less special now...

Of course, I guess those aren't "Grim Cookies" since you didn't heat them up in the oven for me.

Every batch baked with hate.

[Sully]

I concur. Plus a lot of people have the "you shall not pass" complex. Last time I tried skirting traffic on the shoulder I had someone swing a car door open trying to hit me and others pulling on to the shoulder to try to stop me from getting by. Even if it were legalized I probably wouldn't do it most of the time.

Yeah, please tell me what the F*ck their problem is? I had a major dbag on C470 in front of me (in the left lane) as I was coming home from bike night (in the car, lol) and he was going along at a decent pace (@5mph over the limit) but slowed down about 5mph.. so I look to see if there is a reason and no one is in front of him.. so I flash my lights and the Ftard touches his brakes and slows down even more.. wtf?! I get over to the right lane to pass him and he speeds up and paces the car in front of me.. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Ok Major DBag.. the car in front of me now actually was in the left lane and moved over for this dirtbag to pass.. why couldn't he do the same for me? It finally opens up to 3 lanes (at Quebec) and I have enough room to get over to the far right and get back over 2 lanes to the far left.. DBAG tries to cut me off but his Hyundai Santa Fe didn't have enough so I get in front of him and he flashes his lights at me.. WTF, do you own the road and are you the speed limit Nazi a**hole? No one can go faster than you? F*off! GAWD I hate the way people drive sometimes! The signs say "keep right unless passing" err something like that..

/rant.. lol

I didn't wade through it either.

That being said, your above state reason sounds to me like a good reason for YOU to not do it. Doesn't sound like a good reason for you to favor restricting other adults ability to do it.

If lane sharing were legal, some people would, and some wouldn't. Why shouldn't we have the choice? Isn't this essentially the same argument that is made every time the topic of mandatory helmet use comes up? Right now it's legal to ride w/o a helmet. I never do, but the freedom to make the choice about taking on the additional risk of riding w/o a helmet is a great thing. Why shouldn't I have the ability to make that same choice about taking on the additional risk of lane sharing?

I agree, I would like the choice to do this, although I am more inclined to surf the shoulder rather than roll between idiots who aren't paying attention..

[Jmetz]

Yeah, please tell me what the F*ck their problem is? I had a major dbag on C470 in front of me (in the left lane) as I was coming home from bike night (in the car, lol) and he was going along at a decent pace (@5mph over the limit) but slowed down about 5mph.. so I look to see if there is a reason and no one is in front of him.. so I flash my lights and the Ftard touches his brakes and slows down even more.. wtf?! I get over to the right lane to pass him and he speeds up and paces the car in front of me.. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Ok Major DBag.. the car in front of me now actually was in the left lane and moved over for this dirtbag to pass.. why couldn't he do the same for me? It finally opens up to 3 lanes (at Quebec) and I have enough room to get over to the far right and get back over 2 lanes to the far left.. DBAG tries to cut me off but his Hyundai Santa Fe didn't have enough so I get in front of him and he flashes his lights at me.. WTF, do you own the road and are you the speed limit Nazi a**hole? No one can go faster than you? F*off! GAWD I hate the way people drive sometimes! The signs say "keep right unless passing" err something like that..

/rant.. lol

I don't drive slow so I run into that all the time. I learned a long time ago that flashing your lights only gets that response. Apparently it's an ego destroyer to take a half second to move over and another half second to move back after being passed.

[Sully]

I would say that about 8 times out of 10, people will move over on their own, because they're polite and understand the rules of the road.. but the other 2 jackoffs wanna park their sh*t in front of me or flip me off as I pass them... wtf?!? SERIOUSLY move your slow ass horse wagon over jack*ss.. :eyeroll: I don't flash my lights at people that often.. if I am behind them and they don't get it that they should move over, if I can pass them on the right, I will... (yes, it's illegal, I know.. but so is speeding ) MOOOOVE.. GET OUT DA WAY..

[DemonRider]

I would say that about 8 times out of 10, people will move over on their own, because they're polite and understand the rules of the road..

Agreed. But I guess the numbers depends on how aggressive of a driver you are from the start.

To the other Two

I am also not saying I would "Share Lanes" all the time, but in those moments; It would be nice for there to be an option to get then F*** outta the way. But hey, until that day arrives, I'll keep doing what i'm doing

[Jmetz]

IME it's the other way around. 9 out of 10 won't get the eff out of the way.

[Ghost]

IME it's the other way around. 9 out of 10 won't get the eff out of the way.

Yep. If there's a courteous driver out there, they must be a rare breed.

[CBR-Cowboy]

I'm pro choice, if people feel its unsafe, then they shouldn't do it. I know tons of people who think riding a bike in gen is unsafe, and wish i wouldn't do it, but it is my choice.

personally i wouldn't lane split at freeway speeds. but in a traffic jam where all the cars are standing still, i would move forward at 5 mph.
on the other hand if there was 3 cars all side by side doing 55 in a 65 and no one in front of them at all because people need to be in packs, i might if i felt it was safe.

but is just posting about it really going to do much or is there a website that we can sign up for and give our support.

It isn't our choice to sit in traffic jams if 4 cages who are busy sexting decide to have an orgy with their cars on the freeway.

It is already illegal to drive in the fast lane and not be passing someone. yet people dart straight for the fast lane and never get out until 2 seconds before their turn cutting across 3 lanes.

" For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states: A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_lane

The main problem is that they are building 3 lane HW's when they should be building 6 lanes. and make the left lane an HOV/bike lane like alot of other states.

they have spent a lot of money marking off bicycle lanes when they could just use the sidewalks. why not motorcycles. i would gladly take the sidewalk over sitting in traffic listening to my fan kick on.

[Sully]

IME it's the other way around. 9 out of 10 won't get the eff out of the way.

Maybe it's just because my car looks mean? ... Most of those people move out of the way when I'm on the bike too... Altho, I do admit, I am a pretty aggressive driver and rider

[Ghosty]

Maybe it's just because my car looks mean...

What kinda car?

[Sully]

.. bmw... ok, maybe it's just my ugly face lookin' mean..

[grim]

.. bmw... ok, maybe it's just my ugly face lookin' mean..

Id high five you if i saw you in your beemer on I-25.

[Sully]

[Slo]

Being from CA I am all for lane splitting. When I was there, right on the inside cover of the Motorcycle handbook, it stated that it was not illegal but not recommended.

I would find myself following 2 wheel'd CHP or vice versa splitting lanes. Best part was not having to wait 2-3 red lights to get through an intersection. There is also a good time and bad time to split lanes.

Gets very risky if traffic is staggered, however when side by side, that is about the safest time to pass.

If it was allowed here in Colorado, I would do it, but would always be carefull doing so. CA, it was much more expected and accepted, I think things would get worse here before it got better.

[Rocket01]

I didn't wade through it either.

That being said, your above state reason sounds to me like a good reason for YOU to not do it. Doesn't sound like a good reason for you to favor restricting other adults ability to do it.

If lane sharing were legal, some people would, and some wouldn't. Why shouldn't we have the choice? Isn't this essentially the same argument that is made every time the topic of mandatory helmet use comes up? Right now it's legal to ride w/o a helmet. I never do, but the freedom to make the choice about taking on the additional risk of riding w/o a helmet is a great thing. Why shouldn't I have the ability to make that same choice about taking on the additional risk of lane sharing?

The Gecco has it right. It's the "freedom" to lane share when I want to. If I'm riding a bike, I've already assumed the responsibility for keeping myself safe from morons. And hey, I might die. So what? You wanna live forever?

[Zanatos]

Wikipedia has a pretty good write-up covering both sides of the lane splitting debate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_splitting