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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Do this...buy a -0 and a -1 front and a +2 rear. Put on the -1 first (with the +2R) and see how you like it. If you find it too buzzy on the highway, you can throw the -0 on without any harm to the new chain.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    I'd like to do that, but I'm working hard on spending less money.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Front sprockets are pretty cheap
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Stick with the stock gear ratio, you're going to install a speedohealer since the speed will be off, and the rides down to MoCo are going to be at 2k+ higher RPM (I'm guessing) with -1 +2.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    I highly recommend getting steel sprockets, especially for street riding, since you don't really need to worry about rotating mass. The aluminum sprocket will wear out in about 6k miles or so and they pick the absolute worst time to go out.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by CaneZach View Post
    I highly recommend getting steel sprockets, especially for street riding, since you don't really need to worry about rotating mass. The aluminum sprocket will wear out in about 6k miles or so and they pick the absolute worst time to go out.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    -1+2 is a pretty typical setup for a lot of bikes. For me I am at about 1000 rpms for every 10 mph. 60 mph is 6000 rpms 70 is 7000 and so on. Speedohealer is what I have and I think it was $115 for the new one, plug and play.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by BC14 View Post
    I wonder how you know that???
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by duelist13 View Post
    Stick with the stock gear ratio, you're going to install a speedohealer since the speed will be off, and the rides down to MoCo are going to be at 2k+ higher RPM (I'm guessing) with -1 +2.
    It's only 680 RPM higher as I previously stated. And I wouldn't mind investing in a healer since the OEM speedo is off to begin with.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    From my experience, the -1 in the front is equal to +3 in the rear, so on that note a -1/+2 kit is equal to +5 in the rear. I have a -1/+2 kit on my 05 600RR and to be honest I think I want to go up some more. My top end has gone down a good bit but who really tops out that often. I love the low end torque, I guess it is just time to upgrade to a liter bike. I think the next sprocket kit I will install a plus 5 kit on the rear and see how that does.
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    pretty ironic you started this thread today I had to tighten my chain when i got home today good info!!!!

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Driven Al sprockets do NOT last. And to the guy who replaces his sprockets every year...facepalm.

    Vellos, regarding Al vs steel it comes down to do you want those extra fractions that you can gain simply with sprocket choices and lose longevity?

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by brennahm View Post
    Driven Al sprockets do NOT last. And to the guy who replaces his sprockets every year...facepalm.

    Vellos, regarding Al vs steel it comes down to do you want those extra fractions that you can gain simply with sprocket choices and lose longevity?
    My Driven is going strong, what happened to yours?

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Started ripping teeth off with 400cc. Couple thousand miles.

    Sure you could baby it, but I ride the same way with steel and have no longevity issues.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Is all about the riding style you do
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Good info. I am in the market to replacing mine

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    What about O ring vs X ring chains?

    Also I'm having trouble finding a steel 525 kit online, everything seems to be 520 oriented. Any good brands to look for? I read that a Driven aluminum chain lasted 2,000 miles, how are their steel?
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Vellos View Post
    What about O ring vs X ring chains?

    Also I'm having trouble finding a steel 525 kit online, everything seems to be 520 oriented. Any good brands to look for? I read that a Driven aluminum chain lasted 2,000 miles, how are their steel?
    Dude... Get the 520 it will hold up. I am running driven steel sprockets with a RK x ring chain and love them. Its a really good setup.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    How long have you had that set up? Couple thousand miles?
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    A 520 chain measures 5/8" between pins, and the pin is 2/8 or 1/4" diameter. A 525 chain has a slightly larger pin. No reason really not to go with a 520 conversion kit.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    for street riding, the most I'd go -1/+2, with steel sprockets and a quality x ring chain (DID EVR3 for example). size doesn't much matter, but sometimes 520 stuff is more common (as you're finding out)

    go for x ring over o ring, as they are better at keeping grease in/junk out

    and I've got you covered on getting it on

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Vellos View Post
    How long have you had that set up? Couple thousand miles?
    Been on it for 3500... No issues what-so-ever.

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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    Turns out my OEM chain is a 520. And my chain doesn't seem to be the problem I think it's my front sprocket that has gone to shit. Going to open it up tomorrow and investigate.

    More questions... When you're changing out the sprockets do you have to do the chain too, or it is just customary? How can you tell when your chain has gone bad? Mine loosens up after an adjust in about 50 miles of paced riding. Is that a bad chain or could it be caused by the sprocket?
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    Re: Chain & Sprocket Info Help

    to see if the chain is shot - pull the chain off the rear sprocket in the middle of the sprocket - so with your hand horizontally behind the axle. A chain is worn when it has too much play in between the links, and if it has this play, you will be able to pull it off rear sprocket a little bit. A new chain, even if not right, wile wrapped around the rear sprocket will not be able pull of the sprocket at all. Also, concerning ratios.... You wanna have greater acceleration, or you want the RPM's to be lower at cruising?
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