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[modette99]

I live in green valley ranch. (Denver county) my truck is parked infront of my house. Few weeks ago someone backed into it and smashed the bumper. I hadn't found a way to reattach the plate yet. I go out of town last week and when I come back I notice two parking tickets. Both are for no front plate. Ill pay the first one. Whatever 75$. But damn two at 75$ They didn't even give me a chance to see the ticket or fix it. Two days later they pop me again. So what can I do? Anything to get the 2nd dropped? I can't fix it when im out of town.

Call the police report the hit & run, show the bumper...show the tickets, and your airline ticket...get his report. Show to court out of principle and show the police report, airline ticket and a picture of your bumper laying there. Then show you fixed the bumper and the tickets should be dismissed.

Wow CO is strict...you could of lost it on a Jeep trail and been waiting for a new one or whatever is done then. Seems kind of steep when they could of looked and saw you had a rear plate still (so maybe a warning as how many people look at the front of their vehicle???). I probably would never know either unless a cop pointed it out (I don't typically see the front of my vehicle for months and months).

I wish CO only had rear plates, outdated to need front ones. Cost the state more for plating as they need two plates, be much cheaper to make just one.

[Jenny]

I wish CO only had rear plates, outdated to need front ones. Cost the state more for plating as they need two plates, be much cheaper to make just one.

Have you ever registered a vehicle here? With how expensive it is, trust me - trust me; it's not the state paying more.

[modette99]

Have you ever registered a vehicle here? With how expensive it is, trust me - trust me; it's not the state paying more.

Yep $680 last year on the Ford Edge, just got the card, $460 this year...such BS in this state, but I blame the voters...could of had $20 tags...but oh no we can not do that. Although I believe it should be more then $20 or whatever was proposed that would of sent a strong message to the state...but nope the voters were idiots.

But still it save the state more money by not having both tags, we all probably be surprised by how much if we went to one plate. There is NO reason for two plates....states with one plate seem to work just fine.

[Ricky]

Yep $680 last year on the Ford Edge, just got the card, $460 this year...such BS in this state, but I blame the voters...could of had $20 tags...but oh no we can not do that. Although I believe it should be more then $20 or whatever was proposed that would of sent a strong message to the state...but nope the voters were idiots.

But still it save the state more money by not having both tags, we all probably be surprised by how much if we went to one plate. There is NO reason for two plates....states with one plate seem to work just fine.

That was one of the dumbest items on the ballot in history. A reduction in those taxes? Hell yes. But a complete removal, no way. I hate paying those fees as much as anyone else. My new car this year cost me $960. Fucking $58 for my 9 year old WR250?!?!? But I know where the money goes, and I'm somewhat ok with it. If the state didn't have that cash, our roads would suck even more than they already do.

My suggestion is that if you don't like it, move out of the state. You do have a choice.

[modette99]

That was one of the dumbest items on the ballot in history. A reduction in those taxes? Hell yes. But a complete removal, no way. I hate paying those fees as much as anyone else. My new car this year cost me $960. Fucking $58 for my 9 year old WR250?!?!? But I know where the money goes, and I'm somewhat ok with it. If the state didn't have that cash, our roads would suck even more than they already do.

My suggestion is that if you don't like it, move out of the state. You do have a choice.

My suggestion is, are you fucking serious? Other states like TN have excellent roads and do not have such high registration cost, plus they have no income tax either and get along just fine.

Do YOU REALLY KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY GOES? Oh NO the road, the roads, they will be so bad...LOL That is pretty funny and a piss poor argument. I guess you never lived elsewhere and have NO CLUE.

No if I said well MI look at their cost its like $100 a year...Roads do suck...but as I learned in one of my college courses its mainly do to the climate. In MI we had a lot of freeze thaw cycles which is damn hard on the roadways. Here in CO, its not that bad...

I don't know I'll vote for a reduction in any tax at any point. I think the roads here are excellent, yeah they are not like AZ but then again we do have winters, but they are not THAT bad either. You ever been to the East Coast at all, like New Jersey, Michigan!!! If you want to talk roads first do a few motorcycle trips, then get back to me. I'm amazed at how nice the roads in TN are...and I think my parents about died when I told them the outrages raping of Colorado fees.

But there are always a few people that like taking it up the ass in society, I understand that, I hope you buy lots of KY. Same people like paying state income taxes too, and "use" tax...LOL Whatever...

I vote, and I have a say, to tell someone to move I could just as easily tell you to GET THE FUCK OUT if you like paying excessive taxes.

[The GECCO]

Other states like TN have excellent roads and do not have such high registration cost, plus they have no income tax either and get along just fine.

Apples and oranges. TN has more people paying into the pool and less roads to maintain (TN population density 153 people per sq mi, CO is 4, plus their roads don't see the severe types of weather that most of ours do, especially in the mountains, requiring less maintenance.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

In Ohio, the plates were like $40/yr, even on newer cars......but we also paid about 2% of your salary in city tax, above and beyond the state tax. Idaho has pretty cheap plates.

[modette99]

Apples and oranges. TN has more people paying into the pool and less roads to maintain (TN population density 153 people per sq mi, CO is 4, plus their roads don't see the severe types of weather that most of ours do, especially in the mountains, requiring less maintenance.

I would argue that.

July 2009 figures
TN has 6,296,254
CO has 5,024,748
Difference of 1,271,506
Of course newer stats show CO is rapidly growing as can be seen. So population stats might be a lot closer, reducing that difference.

I tried to find how many miles of roadway CO has vs TN but that seems not to be a known thing. About 6 million for the U.S. stat. I believe there are more roads in TN and they tend to be PAVED then in CO just from experience. CO has a lot of open underpopulated areas that don't have many roadways. Hell my parents place is a FARM and in the middle of nowhere and it is paved, and they have city water...LOL TN is littered with roads.

CO does seem to have a lot of COUNTY roads which tend not to be maintained and some are down right scary even in a Jeep (TN Country Roads are ALWAYS maintained, typically paved too). I'm not really calling CO County roads, roads because if I can not take a Ford Focus down it, its not much use to anyone, true CO also have more Forest Roads too due to the national forest. Again these are typically not maintained nor should be considered "roads" and when maintained are federal money not state money so plating fees don't mean much.

Wow, you pointed out weather, which I already answered. You are partially correct. but the weather here is not THAT bad. Now in MI what happens is the roads start to melt but never dry during the day due to clouds (rarely sunny) and thus refreeze at night causing heaving and that is what makes potholes (well among other things). In CO I tend to see the roadways DRY during the day thus refreezing of water and causing heaving is not a problem. Hence why the roadways up in the mountains stay pretty dang nice year to year. I don't see much change int he conditions from one year to the next.

I got to say, people in CO have a warped sense of what a bad road is. I have not yet seen one in Denver that I said "Oh my God" to. But yet if you think these roads are sooooo bad but yet pay high fees don't and they don't seem to fix the issue you think higher fees WILL???

Of course neither of those are the driving population, or ones that pay taxes. You would have to factor out non users out of both, like children and old people, or people that simply don't have vehicles.

My main point which you failed at understanding is that with the crazy low amount on that bill (which I said was a little nuts) would of WAKED the state up. Like everything they WASTE a ton on roadways by mismanaging the monies, the bidding process and get away with it. Do you really think it would of stayed that LOW? But it would of been a good starting point to FIX the ridiculous fees we pay. I think $100-$200 a year on ANY vehicle is what it should be. It should not, or never have been a WEALTH tax.

You do realize it is a wealth tax? A $40K Ford Edge does not use more road in terms of maintenance then a $20K Ford Ranger. A $140K Porsche does not use $4,000 in fees to use a road. It does not add up, which means its a tax on the wealthy because you are jealous that someone can buy something you can not. I like to see all such taxes done away with, why should I pay MORE just because I made more then you. I know Obama says the wealthy need to pay their fair share...what BS, they already tend to do that.

But alas there are ways around it....