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    One trick, don't own a scale! I have no idea how much i weight right now. I'd guess 190-200 but really, I have no idea. And truth be told, I don't really care. I'm slowly looking better, the exercises are slowly getting easier, and I am feeling pretty good. At least for me, that's enough. If I feel good, look good and am healthy, I'm not sure what difference it would make if I'm 185 or 190?
    Exactly!!!! Weight is such a horrible way to judge how you progress; especially at the beggining when so much fat is getting turned into muscle. Like dragos13 said, muscle weighs more than fat and I see so many people get discouraged because they work out and gain weight; but in reality this is muscle weight and the more muscle the faster you burn fat so it takes some time. Once you get there though and build the muscle up then you can actually eat crappier and not gain the fat like you once did; look at how Keyser Soze says he eats a bunch of stuff like donuts, but since he has the muscle to burn that crappy stuff off it is not as big a deal because your body turns into this "calorie burning machine" especially when you are working out constantly.



    I don't know much about this HCG, but I looked it up and was kind of surprised at the definition (although now I understand why Rob called it pregnancy piss)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_c...c_gonadotropin

    This part made me kind of sceptical:

    Homeopathic hCG for weight control

    Controversy about, and shortages[21] of, injected hCG for weight loss have led to substantial Internet promotion of "homeopathic hCG" for weight control. The ingredients in these products are often obscure, but if prepared from true hCG via homeopathic dilution, they contain either no hCG at all or only trace amounts.
    The United States Food and Drug Administration has stated that this drug is fraudulent and ineffective for weight loss. It is also not protected as a homeopathic drug and has been deemed an illegal substance.[22][23]
    According to the studies noted above, the weight loss indicated by individuals on an "hCG diet" can be attributed entirely to the fact that such diets prescribe a consumption rate of 500-550 calorie per day, or approximately one quarter of what is commonly accepted as the daily recommended value for a male adult of average build and activity. Further, double-blind studies note no decrease in appetite by those taking hCG versus individuals on placebos and have offered no evidence that individuals taking hCG are more likely to lose fat than lean tissue. Long-term results caution that unlike individuals participating in a diet of, for example, 1100 calories per day those on a 500 calorie per day diet are unlikely to develop more appropriate eating habits and will gain weight more quickly after the diet has completed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    According to the studies noted above, the weight loss indicated by individuals on an "hCG diet" can be attributed entirely to the fact that such diets prescribe a consumption rate of 500-550 calorie per day, or approximately one quarter of what is commonly accepted as the daily recommended value for a male adult of average build and activity. Further, double-blind studies note no decrease in appetite by those taking hCG versus individuals on placebos and have offered no evidence that individuals taking hCG are more likely to lose fat than lean tissue. Long-term results caution that unlike individuals participating in a diet of, for example, 1100 calories per day those on a 500 calorie per day diet are unlikely to develop more appropriate eating habits and will gain weight more quickly after the diet has completed.
    This is pretty much my take on it. I know 2 people that have done this, and they dropped weight pretty fast. They both put weight back on extremely quick after they stepped back from the diet.

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    I assumed it was a starving the body kind of thing. So are the drops supposed to "trick" the body into thinking it's consuming food? Do the drops taste terrible, thus you not wanting food? I had a friend at work who did it and she lost a ton of weight. had to do it a second time because she gained some back after the first time. She'd get dizzy walking up stairs to quickly. Be careful.

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    I’d steer clear of that stuff, Wicky. There are no short-cuts! Being fit is a lifestyle for me, and I can’t imagine living any other way. If you’re really serious about sliming down and toning up, hire a personal trainer. He or she will keep you motivated, help you avoided injury, and work your ass hard…but not too hard. A good trainer can also help you with your diet and supplements. It may be expensive, but worth every penny IMO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FZRguy View Post
    I’d steer clear of that stuff, Wicky. There are no short-cuts! Being fit is a lifestyle for me, and I can’t imagine living any other way. If you’re really serious about sliming down and toning up, hire a personal trainer. He or she will keep you motivated, help you avoided injury, and work your ass hard…but not too hard. A good trainer can also help you with your diet and supplements. It may be expensive, but worth every penny IMO!
    Every penny that I don't have. I know they are worth it, if you get someone good, but I don't have the money to spend on something like that every month, plus a gym membership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    Every penny that I don't have. I know they are worth it, if you get someone good, but I don't have the money to spend on something like that every month, plus a gym membership.
    You can usually just pay for one for a month and then just memorize or write down what they teach you if you are pressed for money; not really necessary to have one for months on end. Or even go down to the library and pick up a book that a personal trainer has put out and use that.
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    Week 3, Day 3

    Pretty good workout this morning. It was pure cardio (the hard one) and cardio abs. This time it was much more fun, because I wasn't hung over on good beer and cheap tequila. A big plus, if you ask me. Plus, I kept a solid pace, but didn't follow the pace of the instructor, this helped a ton. I can do the cardio and do the exercises, but sometimes he just goes faster than I can and it wears me out to fast. So this time I knocked it down a notch and had a good, consistent workout. Still happy with it, still a little bored with it, but whatever.It's just hard when there are three workouts, a stretching, a fit test and an abs (which I've only done twice); cycling the three workouts gets old. They are all similar and use many similar exercises.

    One of my buddies is talking about doing a marathon in spring, maybe that'll be my next venture starting in dec?

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    I'll be the devils advocate on this one. I never have enough cash to get a personal trainer. I'm sure they're great, but you can get in shape yourself, if you really want to. There are tons of ways to do it, it just depends on the level you want to keep. You don't have to spend hundreds of dollars on training. I have a friend who is doing crossfit right now. She's paying hundreds of dollars a month and getting minimal results. I spent $10 on a six pack of beer and told Wicky he's got pretty eyes in order to get Insanity, and I'm in better shape than my friend.

    There are only two solid rules/categories that I generally follow. Keep in mind, I am not a trainer, expert or anything. This is just an opinion. And I'm not saying this for anyone in particular, just for whoever wants to read it.

    1. Food- hold yourself accountable. I used to keep a list of what I ate, and not lie. I also watched portions and tried to eat more fruits and veggies. I'm not saying that people should have the perfect diet, I never have, just think about what you're putting into your body. And I always made sure to splurge during the week. I just kept it in check.

    2. Do something every day. Like John said, it's a lifestyle. Go for a walk, do jumping jacks, play tennis/basketball, go for a hike, whatever, just do something everyday. Be active. And when your body is truly tired, listen to it and take a day off.

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    I think maybe Wicky is just making excuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    I think maybe Wicky is just making excuses
    Kind of like when I invite you on a ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    Kind of like when I invite you on a ride?
    I wouldnt make excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Goose View Post
    Kind of like when I invite you on a ride?
    What! I got one invite this year and it was on the day UFC came into town; which is like my Superbowl Sunday since it is the only sport I follow religiously. Lies! All Lies! No you on the other hand are always welcome to join me at the gym at 24 Hour on Belleview and Santa Fe M, T, Th, Fr 5-:6:30; Sundays around 11 am

    P.S. The truth is I am riding less this season because cops scare me and I lost too many points last year

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I'm anti personal trainer and pro research. I'm sure there are a few trainers out there that know their shit, but most of em are community college lackies, that know jack shit about training. Read, read, and read some more. Get in the gym, see how your body reacts and adapt. Switch up your routine every so often, and train hard. Most people have no idea what it is to actually push themselves.
    This is very true; I think I am in better shape than all the PT at 24 Hour Fitness I go to. Actually I couldn't have a PT that wasn't in better shape than me because I would not take them serious enough when they pushed me and would always think "shit, you can't even do this".

    It is all about finding a good one. TJolt seems to know his stuff and has offered here on the board to PT. You know I am always down to help Wicky.
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    P.S. The truth is I am riding less this season because cops scare me and I lost too many points last year
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    It is all about finding a good one. TJolt seems to know his stuff and has offered here on the board to PT. You know I am always down to help Wicky.
    For sure, but that's a long way for me to go to workout for an hour. Hence, why Rob needs to get his sweet ass back to Arvada.
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    I am going to start working out again today for the first time in 3 weeks. Had to stop due to the accident. Was supposed to start on Monday but i was too busy smelling like shit to go to the gym. Its going to feel good but i have a feeling i am going to be sore as hell tomorrow!

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    I am going to start working out again today for the first time in 3 weeks. Had to stop due to the accident. Was supposed to start on Monday but i was too busy smelling like shit to go to the gym. Its going to feel good but i have a feeling i am going to be sore as hell tomorrow!
    Was this due to a shart? Must have been one bad shart accident. Next time just clean your pants right away
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    Was this due to a shart? Must have been one bad shart accident. Next time just clean your pants right away
    The thought had crossed my mind but the shart was so explosive there was nothing to be done but stand there in shame n shit!

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    I'm anti personal trainer and pro research. I'm sure there are a few trainers out there that know their shit, but most of em are community college lackies, that know jack shit about training. Read, read, and read some more. Get in the gym, see how your body reacts and adapt. Switch up your routine every so often, and train hard. Most people have no idea what it is to actually push themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I'm anti personal trainer and pro research. I'm sure there are a few trainers out there that know their shit, but most of em are community college lackies, that know jack shit about training. Read, read, and read some more. Get in the gym, see how your body reacts and adapt. Switch up your routine every so often, and train hard. Most people have no idea what it is to actually push themselves.
    Yep, I dated a girl that worked at 24 hour part time, and they wanted her to be a personal trainer, cause she was A) in shape and B) hot. They put her through a couple classes and gave her the title. That's why I said "if you get someone good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I'm anti personal trainer and pro research. I'm sure there are a few trainers out there that know their shit, but most of em are community college lackies, that know jack shit about training. Read, read, and read some more. Get in the gym, see how your body reacts and adapt. Switch up your routine every so often, and train hard. Most people have no idea what it is to actually push themselves.
    In all honesty, i think every trainer needs to take an anatomy course. You would be surprised how much that helps in every aspect of lifting. knowing how the muscles work and which ones work for different muscle groups.
    Most certs dont require this sort of back ground. and thats why most trainers suck. and actually most start on the core and slowly expand from there. As almost everyone i meet and train, has horrible core strength. This has to be fixed first.
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    Week 3, day 4

    Thursdays are always the recovery day. It's just a bunch of stretching and stuff. You still work up a little sweat, and some of the exercises work your muscles, but nothing like a normal day. Kind of bummed, I'm going out of town this weekend and will miss saturday's workout. We'll still be doing a hike and stuff, so I'll be getting out. But it won't be the same.

    What's interesting, is that Angela is really happy with the results. We were unsure of what the outcome would be for woman, but it's very positive. She is getting trimmer and a bit more toned all around. I know she was worried that she'd look muscley and not as feminine, but at this point in time that is not the case. Just thought I'd let you know in case you have female's that are interested in trying something like this out.

    What I'm actually finding that's most interesting, is all of the shit that I get for admitting that I'm doing Insanity. As I've said, I've been into triathlon's for a few years, and all of those friends give me total shit for doing a video workout. Oh well, I'm happy, getting results and getting fit.

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    Worked out yesterday for the first time in 3 weeks. Definitely tough to get back in the groove but felt much better after an hour and a half of lifting. Not as sore as i thought i would be but i loaded up on water, protein, and threw some carbs in to help the recovery. Chest and shoulders today!

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    Sean, how did the ribs and back hold up? Did you take it easy on them?

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    Sean, how did the ribs and back hold up? Did you take it easy on them?
    My back was fine while doing Tricep Pressdown as well as doing inclined bicep curls.

    The stomach usually gets mildly worked no matter what exercise you do and i did not feel anything. My wrist started giving me issues while doing the tricep press, but that was about it. everything felt pretty good. I thing taking the muscle relaxer before i went to bed for the last three weeks helped my rib immensely because there was no movement in my abs while sleeping which allowed the rib to heal.

    I was thinking about doing some light ab workouts tonight to see how it fairs with weight being put on it.

    Back will be tomorrows workout so we shall see but i didn't have any issues after being on my feet for 24 hours on Monday so that is a good sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grim View Post
    My back was fine while doing Tricep Pressdown as well as doing inclined bicep curls.

    The stomach usually gets mildly worked no matter what exercise you do and i did not feel anything. My wrist started giving me issues while doing the tricep press, but that was about it. everything felt pretty good. I thing taking the muscle relaxer before i went to bed for the last three weeks helped my rib immensely because there was no movement in my abs while sleeping which allowed the rib to heal.

    I was thinking about doing some light ab workouts tonight to see how it fairs with weight being put on it.

    Back will be tomorrows workout so we shall see but i didn't have any issues after being on my feet for 24 hours on Monday so that is a good sign.
    Wow, that rib healed fast then. When I hurt mine it bothered me bad for at least two months when doing any lifting.

    So I have taken the last two days off from the gym and am debating to to take more time off or go back today. Probably just me, but I feel like I am smaller and not as in good shape. Maybe just because I am not as solid as usual. Doubt two days could do that, although the last week my workouts have not been good since I was so wasted.
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