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    Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    I crashed Tuesday and wanted to share to hopefully help others avoid my mistake.

    So, here's the scenario:

    I had just left work to head home for lunch and was making the right from eastbound Church Ranch Blvd. onto Hwy 36 EB. As I approached the light, I saw it was changing and rolled off the throttle to let the left turners from WB Church Ranch head down the on-ramp ahead of me. The Group passed and I started to roll on the throttle. Just as I started to dip the bike into the turn, I caught sight of a straggler coming through the light late. The sight lines were such that the traffic light pole itself had hidden her from view until the last second.

    The next few events happened very fast but I never panicked. Just a quick "that's craptacular" went through my head when I realized I couldn't save it. I also feel it necessary to specify that while cold tires may have been a contributing factor, they did not cause this and I hope this thread doesn't devolve into a "Q2's suck @ cold temps morass". I had literally left work 45 seconds before. Even if the air temp was 80 that day, i'd have had cold tires no matter the brand.

    So, anyways...
    I immediately applied both brakes but hit the back a little too hard (mistake #1) and locked the rear (warmer tire temps MAY have made a diff here). Because I had just started the turn it slid out to the left and was carrying me right towards the curb (and the steep hill that accompanies overpasses). Seeing this coming at me, I released the rear brake before I had scrubbed enough speed off (mistake #2, If i'd waited a half-second more, I think I would've recovered) and the rear immediately came in line. This initiated a wicked tank-slapper wobble and the front just plain washed out on me after about a cycle and a half of that.

    The bike went down fairly hard on the right side, breaking the oil pump cover right open, and dumping all of my motor oil on the street. All other damage to her was cosmetic and I should be able to get her roadworthy again easily.

    As for me, I slid about ten feet on my right shoulder and the face shield of the Shoei I just bought from Sean. I got up immediately and checked myself for injuries. I realized right away I had bruised my right knee, but it took a couple hours to realize I had also (much more severely) bruised my left big toe. I'm guessing that the shift lever can be thanked. I could hardly walk on it Tues, evening but a couple days later It's almost as if I never hurt it.

    The take-away here: WEAR YOUR GEAR! Seriously, I bounced my freaking face on the asphalt and slid on it and my most severe injury will be healed up by Monday. If that isn't an ATGATT testimonial, i don't know what is.

    So, there it is. Do what you will with it... I know I learned a lesson or two.

    Alex

    PS: The chick I had to hit the brakes so hard to avoid, did indeed stop to help, as did three others. I was sure to thank them.
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Glad you made it out fairly un damaged mistakes happen just have to learn from them.

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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    glad you're ok

    do you thin cold tires could have had anything to do with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinkerinWstuff View Post
    glad you're ok

    do you thin cold tires could have had anything to do with it?
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    seriously, glad to hear you came out ok
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    Thanks.
    I'm still a little pissed at myself. Mostly because I'm one of the "practice your quick stops!" assholes found here. But I'll be better once I get my wheels sorted out.
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    Oh man, glad you're okay! And I'm glad your head was very well protected! It sucks, but I think stuff like this happens to all of us at some point. Glad no serious harm came to you. Let me know if there's anything I can do, or even give you a hand with the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    It sucks, but I think stuff like this happens to all of us at some point.
    Or you're on the receiving end of Surprise Prius Buttsecks...
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Another reason I rarely use my rear brake. Glad you're ok. I'm always smooth on the brakes and throttle when I just leave somewhere. It's good to be smooth all the time, but I'm especially conscious of it when the tires be cold.
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    If you lock the rear wheel during braking, maintain it until you come to a complete stop. Tank slappers and highsiding suck.
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Glad you're ok. Gear ftw and I'm glad the bike is fixable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGuys View Post
    Or you're on the receiving end of Surprise Prius Buttsecks...
    Good point. It wasn't a Prius, was it? Those little fuckers are sneaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Good point. It wasn't a Prius, was it? Those little fuckers are sneaky.
    I do recall reading something you posted about a Prius rear ending a bike on the interstate off ramp.

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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Thanks again, Peeps.


    Quote Originally Posted by UglyDogRacing View Post
    If you lock the rear wheel during braking, maintain it until you come to a complete stop. Tank slappers and highsiding suck.
    That bears repeating.

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    Good point. It wasn't a Prius, was it? Those little fuckers are sneaky.
    Actually a girl of Asian descent in a Ford Escape.
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Sorry to hear it man. Although, depending on the temps, it could very well have been a cold tire issue. The road is an infinite heatsink, and regardless of ambient air temp, it will suck heat out of anything touching it if there's a big temp delta.

    Glad you're ok!
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    ^true.
    I'm sure it would've been harder to break the rear free if I'd had warmed-up rubber back there. But the underlying cause of the wreck was me not taking it into account when I applied too much back brake and subsequently, believing I had slowed enough to recover from the slide. If i placed all the blame on cold tires I'd be doing myself a disservice.
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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Refreshing to see someone on CSC take credit. Good on you. Sounds like you're learning from the experience!

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    you sure there wasnt some gravel nearby?
    i thought gravel is what always causes it
    glad you are ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxridiot View Post
    you sure there wasnt some gravel nearby?
    i thought gravel is what always causes it
    glad you are ok

    It's funny... that's the first thing out of my cager colleagues mouths when I tell them that I crashed.
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    It was the previous owner.


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    Re: Rookie mistakes... Don't do them. (like I did)

    Thank you for having the courage to speak out about a mistake
    we all make them ....

    There are two types of riders - those that have been down and those that are going down....

    And as I recall the intersection and that ramp - traffic, cold tires with gravel and speed all conspired to make for a low side / tank slapper

    traffic and cages can make any ride - very interesting

    and the advice to always wear your gear .....may save others here ....


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    I'd toss the helmet if I were you.
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    I'd keep the helmet as a momento but def replace it.

    I'm glad you're okay man!! I hope you at least got a date from the girl of asian decent

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