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    You guys are missing the point. Its not a matter of privacy. Its a matter of a out of control government. What is not taking about is the other things to go with this. Ndaa for starters. This gives the government the right to lock you up if they think you are a terrorist. What makes you one? Do a quick search as to what can define you as a terrorist. five days of food. Lets say you go camping for two weeks and bring your guns. Done flys over and sees you, now the air force deems you to be up to something. Hope you enjoy that happy little trip because you are now a terrorist. No due process. For how long? Until the war on terror is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    You guys are missing the point. Its not a matter of privacy. Its a matter of a out of control government.
    Bingo.

    Security is a chimera flaunted at the masses by those who seek to destroy liberty without the guts to do it to our faces. And too many willingly give that liberty away freely because it is taken a little here and there, under the guise of being reasonable. We must be ever vigilant against the growth of government powers, as the Founders warned us repeatedly in their writings. None of these evils are new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkterrell View Post
    Security is a chimera flaunted at the masses by those who seek to destroy liberty without the guts to do it to our faces. And too many willingly give that liberty away freely because it is taken a little here and there, under the guise of being reasonable. We must be ever vigilant against the growth of government powers, as the Founders warned us repeatedly in their writings. None of these evils are new.
    The evils aren't new, but the sheer magnitude of their reach, enhanced by technology, is beyond what any Founding Father could possibly have imagined.

    Some might be trying to be vigilant, but the balance of power has shifted too far out of reach, and as more and more liberties and Rights are eroded, our ability to get them back diminishes...I think we're fucked, and it's never going to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    The evils aren't new, but the sheer magnitude of their reach, enhanced by technology, is beyond what any Founding Father could possibly have imagined.

    Some might be trying to be vigilant, but the balance of power has shifted too far out of reach, and as more and more liberties and Rights are eroded, our ability to get them back diminishes...I think we're fucked, and it's never going to get better.
    I'm pretty much in line with you and Dirk. Though, I personally believe that revolution is coming. It will either come from abuse of power by the government or because the gap between rich and poor becomes too great.
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